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Neil Taylor http://www.cce-mt.org
December 8th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=4#comment-142341
Dear Mr. Rossi,
As one who has signed up to receive a home plant when they become
available I am curious to know if you have attained the
100 MWs of home 10 kW E-Cats on pre-order, worth EUR40 million or USD60
million in sales to Rossi and his licensees. Time to build a BIG factory
and employ skilled production staff. Wonder where the factory will be
located? Maybe where a shipment of British Tea was once thrown into the
water?
Author: fyodor
Hi,
In the Hyperion specifications you state that you believe a fusion reaction is
occurring based on the mass spectrometer results. Can you tell us anything
about these results? What materials did you detect. Can you tell us anything
more specific about the materials that are
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
This is from page 4 from my review:
This photo by Mats Lewan of NyTeknik of the 6 Oct Rossi Tout thermocouple
. . .
Thank you! I knew I saw that somewhere. Since Lewan took that photo I think
I will copy it to RossiData.
It was thus subject to
Here is a thermocouple as received from Omega, except I think I did trim
back the outer insulation a little. This images is made with a scanner.
This TC is presently gummed up thanks to my using Band-Aids at high
temperatures, but it still agrees with the other instruments.
The use of Band-Aids
Interesting.
I wonder if DGT will also propose what kind of nuclear/LENR steps are
most likely being taken to produce the copper.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Most of those postings are providing some models, some calculations…
something of substance which, although however speculative, at least that
speculation is backed by some numbers.
There's nothing magical
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
These things go up to incredibly high temperatures. Never had a use for
that.
Indeed they do. And the frayed electrical insulation that Horace
mentioned used to be asbestos. Don't know what they use now.
T
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
No, Mary, the endless repetition from the same person of the same old thing
is what annoys me. In one of your posts, where you interspersed your
comments with the other person’s, I counted 4 or 5 instances where
Hi,
Where I work: http://hphsite.de/Vortex/AtWork.jpg
Measuring Arrangement: http://hphsite.de/Vortex/Overview.jpg
Macro detail - tape: http://hphsite.de/Vortex/Tape.jpg
(It is worth to note, that a small air gap or spurious glassfiber
isolation material had the same effect as the tape.)
The
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
The thermoelement on the tape has a bad contact to the metal and measures
preferrably the air temperature.
This is not a valid test. You have to cover up the thermocouples. Rossi did
not leave them open to the air.
Of course leaving them open will
At 08:28 AM 12/8/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-12-06 20:15, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I've just finished a marathon multi-day session of skimming through the
excellent http://lenr-canr.org http://lenr-canr.org/ library.
Another link for you. It contains documents not
included in
Am 09.12.2011 18:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
The thermoelement on the tape has a bad contact to the metal and measures
preferrably the air temperature.
This is not a valid test. You have to cover up the thermocouples. Rossi did
not leave them open to
Look like Romney is a big fan of cold fusion.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2011/12/08/romney-hot-for-cold-fusion.aspx
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I assume that under the surface of the insulation warm air can distribute.
Then you should please put some insulation over it, leaving some warm air.
No more than 1 mm of air. Not ~1 cm.
I believe you are wrong about that. I tested for it, and found
I wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
The thermoelement on the tape has a bad contact to the metal and measures
preferrably the air temperature.
This is not a valid test. You have to cover up the
On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I assume that under the surface of the insulation warm air can
distribute.
Then you should please put some insulation over it, leaving some
warm air. No more than 1 mm of air. Not ~1 cm.
I
I wrote:
But making at tent with string, leaving about 1 mm all around, did not
affect the measurement. When I say it did not affect it, I mean to within
0.1 deg C.
I refer to this photo, which now has a caption:
http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/T2%20before%20insulating.jpg
I put packing
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll tell you but you won't do it. Get a countercurrent heat exchanger
and hook up the primary input to a good healthy flow of dry steam.
If you purchase one and ship it to me, I
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The air gap the thermocouple extends out into is large. It is a gap that
is longitudinally between the nut and the manifold, and radially between
the nut outer surface . . .
I do not think so. The insulating material is flexible and fits
David ledin wrote:
Look like Romney is a big fan of cold fusion.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2011/12/08/romney-hot-for-cold-fusion.aspx
That is astounding! Amazing that he has even heard about it. He has the
details wrong, but good for him. If he wants to be
At 10:52 AM 12/9/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
David ledin wrote:
Look like Romney is a big fan of cold fusion.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2011/12/08/romney-hot-for-cold-fusion.aspx
That is astounding! Amazing that he has even heard about it. He has
the details
On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The air gap the thermocouple extends out into is large. It is a
gap that is longitudinally between the nut and the manifold, and
radially between the nut outer surface . . .
I do not think so.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM, David ledin
mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote:
Look like Romney is a big fan of cold fusion.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2011/12/08/romney-hot-for-cold-fusion.aspx
I believe in laboratories, looking at ways to conduct electricity
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I found some heat exchangers -- anyone know if one of these is identical
or equivalent to Rossi's? If so, I will consider sending one to Jed. What
may hold me back is that however the T out thermocouple placement issue
resolves, it doesn't help that
On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The air gap the thermocouple extends out into is large. It is a
gap that is longitudinally between the nut and the manifold, and
radially between the nut outer surface . . .
I do not think so.
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
I don't think so. The wire is against the nut, but it is not clear the
thermocouple tip is.
Why would he not ensure the tip is up against the flat surface? Wouldn't
you do that? I sure would.
But okay, let's assume it is protruding out. As you
On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The air gap the thermocouple extends out into is large. It is a
gap that is longitudinally between the nut and the manifold, and
radially between the nut outer surface . . .
I do not think so.
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I found some heat exchangers -- anyone know if one of these is
identical or equivalent to Rossi's? If so, I will consider sending
one to Jed. What may hold me back is that however the T out
thermocouple placement issue resolves, it doesn't help that
Terry Blanton wrote:
I believe in laboratories, looking at ways to conduct electricity
with -- with cold fusion, if we can come up with it. It was the
University of Utah that solved that. We somehow can’t figure out how
to duplicate it.
I think he meant superconductors.
Ha! I'll bet that's
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Akito Takahashi, a retired professor of nuclear engineering from Osaka
University, and now affiliated with Technova Inc., is shifting his thinking
about low-energy nuclear reactions.
For two decades, Takahashi, a LENR
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
The problem is simulating the nature of the manifold, with its very high
thermal conductivity and large contact area between hot and cold sides.
Taping together two hoses does not do this.
Very well put. I think
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I found some heat exchangers -- anyone know if one of these is identical
or equivalent to Rossi's? If so, I will consider sending one to Jed. What
may hold me back is that
Am 09.12.2011 19:40, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Heckert can also test for this with some insulation. - Jed
Sorry, its only possible when the boss is not around ;-)
We are rather busy now, at end of year many customers must use up their
budget, if they dont do this they get less next year...
On 11-12-09 02:27 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM, David ledin
mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote:
Look like Romney is a big fan of cold fusion.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2011/12/08/romney-hot-for-cold-fusion.aspx
I believe in
It seems to me that Horace Heffner is talking about two separate issues
here. They may both be happening. Or perhaps only one, or neither. It is
better to test them separately.
I do not see how a heat exchanger is needed to test either one.
Horace wrote:
The problem is simulating the nature of
Mary:
If you have a PayPal acct, I will gladly donate $20 to the cause.
Just so the people funding the effort and the person performing the tests
all agree beforehand,
Can someone put together a brief document with:
-tests to perform
-rough diagram of the test setup
-
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Sorry, its only possible when the boss is not around ;-)
We are rather busy now, at end of year many customers must use up their
budget, if they dont do this they get less next year...
sigh
That's why there are no
Ha! I'll bet that's what he had in mind.
Still, he mentioned U. Utah.
Yeah, he mixed his metaphors!
T
Mary Yugo wrote:
The problem is simulating the nature of the manifold, with its
very high thermal conductivity and large contact area between hot
and cold sides. Taping together two hoses does not do this.
Very well put. I think that's the main issue here.
You missed the main
If Romney wants to get elected he should NOT shy away from this.
Harry
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
On 11-12-09 02:27 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM, David ledin
mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote:
Look like Romney
I suspect that it is not easy to simulate the actual heat exchanger and
environment of the Rossi test. A true test would require an exact copy of the
one he used, but that is not going to be possible.
The idea of using a cold water copper pipe and blow torch with two TCs is about
as good as
I wrote:
One could almost as easily test the conduction problem without involving
air pockets, and without a manifold or what-have-you. Just use a copper
pipe, water flowing through it, and a blowtorch. Or maybe just an electric
heater or a gas grill.
As I mentioned in the other thread,
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
I believe in laboratories, looking at ways to conduct electricity
with -- with cold fusion, if we can come up with it. It was the
University of Utah that solved that. We somehow can’t figure out how
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Ha! I'll bet that's what he had in mind.
Still, he mentioned U. Utah.
Yeah, he mixed his metaphors!
T
Oh sure, and the T is short for TINKERBELL.
harry
On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The air gap the thermocouple extends out into is large. It is a
gap that is longitudinally between the nut and the manifold, and
radially between the nut outer surface . . .
I do not think so.
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I suspect that it is not easy to simulate the actual heat exchanger and
environment of the Rossi test. A true test would require an exact copy of
the one he used, but that is not going to be possible.
I think a true test is one that addresses the
A question that seems to need answering is: Why is the black electrical tape
wound around the manifold at the location where the thermocouple would possibly
hit if pushed downward by the insulation? Is there some purpose for tape in
this particular
Where can I get small quantities of soluble nickel salts? Nickel chloride
would be fine. Reagent grade would be nice but not absolutely necessary.
Hopefully I won't have a SWAT team of wannabe secret police attack dogs
bashing down my door if I get my mitts on such an obvious threat to
Homeland
I guess I did not know that you were kidding about the torch. It did seem a
little extreme, but if the test TC is moved along the pipe and a reasonable
quantity of water is flowing within, then the pipe itself would not get too hot
at a decent distance. The moving water would take most of
From James,
Where can I get small quantities of soluble nickel salts? Nickel chloride
would be fine. Reagent grade would be nice but not absolutely necessary.
Hopefully I won't have a SWAT team of wannabe secret police attack dogs
bashing down my door if I get my mitts on such an obvious
I had assumed at first glance that the to of the thermocouple was held in
contact with the manifold by that tape (that it was taking it down). But, then
Rossi indicated a position closer to the nut with his finger, and this photo
seems to indicate it was floating in the free air:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
A question that seems to need answering is: Why is the black electrical
tape wound around the manifold at the location where the thermocouple would
possibly hit if pushed downward by the insulation? Is there some purpose
for tape in this particular
Yep, that duct tape is pretty good stuff. I always carry some with me to keep
things together and it has come in handy on several occasions.
It certainly is possible that the black tape keeps direct contact from
occurring between the copper manifold and the TC. Do you think that Rossi was
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
But, then Rossi indicated a position closer to the nut with his finger,
and this photo seems to indicate it was floating in the free air:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/LewanTcoupleClose.jpg
Yup. It was held down by other tape and
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It certainly is possible that the black tape keeps direct contact from
occurring between the copper manifold and the TC. Do you think that Rossi
was using the insulation to hold the TC to the nut? That would seem to be
a little unreliable.
Yeah, I
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I guess I did not know that you were kidding about the torch. It did seem
a little extreme . . .
I could maybe use a gas grill. I'll think about it. Maybe Terry can come
over and help. Hint, hint.
, but if the test TC is moved along the pipe and a
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh sure, and the T is short for TINKERBELL.
LOL! It's Tinker Bell. She's from the Bell family.
Have you seen Swimming Pool? Trust me, you'll become a Tinker Bell
fan, too when you see Ludavine Sagnier!
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:59 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Yep, that duct tape is pretty good stuff. I always carry some with me to
keep things together and it has come in handy on several occasions.
You have no idea how handy it is:
http://www.usmra.com/photos/Duct_Plane/
T
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I guess I did not know that you were kidding about the torch. It did seem
a little extreme . . .
I could maybe use a gas grill. I'll think about it. Maybe Terry can come
over
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:37 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Where can I get small quantities of soluble nickel salts? Nickel chloride
would be fine. Reagent grade would be nice but not absolutely necessary.
Hopefully I won't have a SWAT team of wannabe secret police attack dogs
Seriously:
http://gizmodo.com/5865808/has-nasas-satellite-captured-an-unidentified-object-near-mercury
confirmed by a second sattelite video at the bottom of the article.
Siriusly.
T
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob can get you anything you want.
'Ceptin' Alice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLg_bzwvxg
T
Hi,
I really like the following comment:
http://gizmodo.com/people/lilstevie/lilstevie
http://gizmodo.com/people/lilstevie/ @Raul Gonzalez
http://gizmodo.com/5865808/has-nasas-satellite-captured-an-unidentified-object-near-mercury#
It is really an earth ship, powered by a ZPM
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I could maybe use a gas grill. I'll think about it. Maybe Terry can come
over and help. Hint, hint.
A candle or a Bunsen burner? Sure, I just need some notice.
I was thinking more along the lines of plumbing and common sense, which I
lack.
I just
If you, or maybe Aussie Guy, can get Rossi to reveal the make and model of the
exact heat-exchanger manifold used in the October 6th demo, I'd be happy to
chip in on any parts costs.
I'm just afraid that a copper pipe is going to be insufficient to model the
larger mass of the thick brass
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote
How far from the edge
of the grill would the outside of the pipe be the same temperature as the
water?
This is what we refer to as an asymptotic relationship. The real
question is how far from the source does the
The model and manufacturer of the 6 Oct heat exchanger has been revealed:
SWEP E8T-SC-S
http://www.swep.net/index.php?tpl=productsheetslang=enid=361Type=ESize=8TMaterial=SCPressure=S
in Mats Lewan's report:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote
How far from the edge
of the grill would the outside of the pipe be the same temperature as the
water?
This is what we refer to as an asymptotic
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
All pro bono, of course.
Bloody hell, there's even a freakin' wiki on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptotic_analysis
T
Bloody hell, there's even a freakin' wiki on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptotic_analysis
Of course, you can do all this graphically. Start with a source, say
a candle, whose heat is fairly constant, and heat a piece of copper
tubing with a known flow rate of water. Measure the
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
You can plot the curve on graph paper
and, using curve fitting, determine when the temperature falls by,
say, 95%.
Lookie, there's even a wiki on curve fitting! Note that three data
points give you quite good accuracy:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
comments with the other person’s, I counted 4 or 5 instances where you
repeated the same basic point, but 5 different ways. Yeah, we get it,
ok?
Fine. But apparently a lot of people don't get it because they keep
assuming Rossi is necessarily or
High winds in Scotland destroy windmill. Dramatic photo:
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2011/12/why-did-a-wind-turbine-self-co.html
T
From Jed:
...
I believe Cude threatened to expose the fact that years ago I expressed
doubts
about Piantelli, whereas I am now more persuaded by his claims. Cude
thinks it
is shameful for me to reconsider the evidence, and two-faced for me
to change
my mind. I do not think so.
If that
I'm nowhere near a computer (on the cellphone), but thanks for the links.
The exchanger Rossi picked is for liquid-liquid heat exchange. See E-Type in
their product range, listed under single phase:
http://www.swep.net/index.php?tpl=products-rangeslang=enid=352
The link you provided:
Some stainless steels contain a few percent copper...
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:56 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting.
I wonder if DGT will also propose what kind of nuclear/LENR steps are
most likely being taken to produce the copper.
Regards
If you want to develop powerful hydrogen catalysts, designing surface
properties of the nano-powder are all important.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2011/12/anl-20111209.html
*In the hydrogen evolution reaction (HER) we report the design and
performance of composite materials to facilitate
When you look at the images from 2 satellites, 90 deg apart, in orbits
around the sun, it makes it difficult to understand how this is a
imaging failure.
On 12/10/2011 11:07 AM, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
I really like the following comment:
http://gizmodo.com/people/lilstevie/lilstevie
The heat exchanger is Swedish, make and model: SWEP E8T-SC-S
http://www.swep.net/index.php?
tpl=productsheetslang=enid=361Type=ESize=8TMaterial=SCPressure=S
The installation manual is here:
http://www.swep.net/fileview.php?file=1300709490
The brass manifold is also from SWEP.
Best regards,
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