Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

Fukishima disaster? How many people died in this disaster? 3 so far, 0 from radiation.How much was the damage to property? How many people died when a renewable energy dam broke? About 1,000 and probably about the same economic damage with the homes washed away. There were also fires at

Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

I am not a republican, and I think global warming is a sham. According to your theories, couldn't global warming just be a ploy to get more money out of consumers? The climate always changes. Even in a worst case scenario predicted by some scientists, it will not end in the apocalypse like so

Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

I wrote: > If you were to change the laws in the US, and you offered a $10 bounty for > the heads of women and children, I am certain you would find hundreds of > thousands of people who would gleefully go around chasing down, shooting > and decapitating innocent people and bayoneting small child

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

There is also no shortage of things that need doing. There is just a maldistribution of income. Harry On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Jarold McWilliams wrote: > The individuals employed there will be fine.  Their energy expenses will be > cut by about 10 x.  Every item they buy will cost about a

Re: [Vo]:Should there be a prediction market for LENR?

wrote: > And, > having odds makers following LENR might generate a lot of public interest. > Sure. It sounds like fun. I have no objection whatever to setting up this bet. I am just saying that the issue will be decided by the money people. If they decide to invest millions, cold fusion is bou

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

The individuals employed there will be fine. Their energy expenses will be cut by about 10 x. Every item they buy will cost about a 1/4 of what it does now. The way we should reduce unemployment if rossi or defkalion really do have something is to shorten the work week. There is no reason pe

Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

Jouni Valkonen wrote: There is one thing good to remember that we are not living nowhere near > laissez-faire capitalism. If any company would be exposed in any attempt to > hinder the development of viable cold fusion technology, it would > considered the worst economic crime in the history. And

Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

There is one thing good to remember that we are not living nowhere near laissez-faire capitalism. If any company would be exposed in any attempt to hinder the development of viable cold fusion technology, it would considered the worst economic crime in the history. And it would lead into huge monet

Re: [Vo]:Should there be a prediction market for LENR?

You make a excellent point, Jed. I have heard accusations that some of these markets may have been manipulated by certain political election campaigns. It probably doesn't require a huge investment to move the odds. However, these markets are probably too small for a major corporation to make mu

RE: [Vo]:Highly ENRgized C-force ='d by E-force ='s IFO

Robin, > Once again you appear to miss the point. The point is that it's not an either/or situationSometimes an electron can take up a Bohr orbit fleetingly, IOW it's not forbidden by the Schrödinger equation The question is, can you prove this statement wrong? This is a good point, and

Re: [Vo]:Question about Defkalion products page

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > > I've often get through this page not reading it, to find the specs... > does anybody remind if the following text is old, or have been modified > recently ??? You can try archive.org and see if they have stored a previous version of the pa

Re: [Vo]:Opera boss resign/fired: Finally open mindedness impossible in physic

It is curious how strongly people believe unbreakability of speed of light barrier for the *information*. 1) There is not a single empirical evidence that would require this fundamental speed limit for information, but it is taken as a priori. This does the philosophy of science backwards, where a

[Vo]:Question about Defkalion products page

Hi, someone cite me todays "products" page of defkalion, and we notice the COP 6 to 30... Today I notice also the factory place in Xanthi, unemployment reference... I've often get through this page not reading it, to find the specs... does anybody remind i

Re: [Vo]:Highly ENRgized C-force ='d by E-force ='s IFO

In reply to Xavier Luminous's message of Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:32:30 +0200: Hi, [snip] >> The reason this doesn't happen is not because the Bohr model is impossible. >> The >> reason is that a smaller orbit than the "ground state" would require a >> change in >> angular momentum of the electron th

Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

Mark Goldes wrote: I largely agree with Jed's comments. However, I am an emotional optimist > and an intellectual pessimist. > I am not optimistic or pessimistic. I have read a great deal of history. I have read and talked to many people who lived through the worst of 20th century history, inclu

[Vo]:Opera boss resign/fired: Finally open mindedness impossible in physic

http://zeenews.india.com/news/technology/physicist-behind-faster-than-light-test-resigns_767250.html I was happy to see how opera neutrino affair was treated, with cautious open-mindedness. I did not believe in supraluminic neutrinos, but it deserved to be checked. I was thinking, that if F&P wer

Re: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

About strength of lobbies things might not be like most people imagine. it is true that oil company are strong lobbies. they kille nuke in US afeter three miles island. but oil is a local product for US, so a kind of protectionism. in france some imagine that nuke is a lobby. not in fact, execpt

RE: [Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

I largely agree with Jed's comments. However, I am an emotional optimist and an intellectual pessimist. The first page of my Aesop website may be of interest. It reads: NASA officials see a likely barrage of solar storms striking Earth’s geomagnetic field. Solar storms large enough to destroy e

[Vo]:Are oil companies suppressing cold fusion? Probably not, but I am sure they will.

Jarold McWilliams wrote: Are you saying that oil companies would rather try to hide cold fusion than > adapt to it? > Yes, I am certain they would. They are trying to hide global warming with the help of the Republican party, with considerable success. > Did they pay off MIT and other mainst

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

Jarold McWilliams wrote: The world can't run on oil forever, and hopefully it is not going to much > longer. Companies like Exxon are going to have to adapt or die. > Of course. And based on the history of business, I predict they will die. > Would you rather the world run on obsolete techno

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

The world can't run on oil forever, and hopefully it is not going to much longer. Companies like Exxon are going to have to adapt or die. Would you rather the world run on obsolete technologies like sailing ships and steam locomotives just so we can have jobs or a company doesn't go under? Sh

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

David Roberson wrote: I hope that they are real and capable of designing useful devices. Did I > misunderstand the report and graph which suggested that they are getting > heat output that is only double the input electrical power? > Yes. I believe that report is out of date and they are gettin

Re: [Vo]:Should there be a prediction market for LENR?

I do not know much about prediction markets but this seems like a bad idea because the game is rigged. Whether a Fortune 500 company will announce a product or not is entirely a matter of politics. There are no technical reasons to prevent this from happening. In a sane world, every Fortune 500 com

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

I hope that they are real and capable of designing useful devices. Did I misunderstand the report and graph which suggested that they are getting heat output that is only double the input electrical power? If this is true, they must improve the process significantly to compete with DGT. Dave

Re: [Vo]:Should there be a prediction market for LENR?

>From pagnucco: ... > People who buy low and sell high are rewarded for improving the market > prediction, while those who buy high and sell low are punished for > degrading the market prediction. Evidence so far suggests that prediction > markets are at least as accurate as other institutions pr

[Vo]:Should there be a prediction market for LENR?

There are several prediction markets that allow legal wagers on political, economic, technological, ..., events. The Wikipedia page at - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prediction_market - lists and describes them: "Prediction markets (also known as predictive markets, information markets, decision markets

Re: [Vo]:New global warming curves show acceleration

Alain Sepeda, ### sorry for the syntactically/orthographically garbled reply ### this is a hopefully cleaned one: --- Von: Alain Sepeda An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:58 Freitag, 30.März 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:New global warming curves show acceleration >that exp

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

Jarold McWilliams wrote: Things change. They're [oil companies] going to have to adapt, and if they > do, they can come out ahead. There is not much profit to be made for cold > fusion fuel, but they can produce the reactors instead. > Oil companies have no expertise in manufacturing. Whereas

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

Brillouin's website and the paper describing their theory at - http://www.brillouinenergy.com http://www.brillouinenergy.com/BrillouinEnergyHypothesis.pdf gives more details. I believe that a number of metal alloys are used for hydrogen storage. It makes sense that they do not limit materials to j

[Vo]:Exciton Spontaneous Coherence

http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-physicists-patterns-state.html excerpt: "The force of electric attraction keeps these two objects close together, like an electron and proton in a hydrogen atom. It also enables the exciton to exist as a single particle rather than a non-interacting electron an

Re: [Vo]:suggestion for speakers

Yes, I will pass that on. Thanks to Jed's library I found the orginal journal paper by Iwamura http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYelementalaa.pdf and his follow up presentations at the ICCF meetings Kowalski says the work by Iwamura was duplicated by a group led by Akito Takahashi of Osaka Unive

Re: [Vo]:LINR... Light Inertia Nuclear Reaction?

No you didn't. << I saw strange lights therefore aliens >>

Re: [Vo]:New global warming curves show acceleration

the beginning discourse on science and pseudo science, look like the reflexion of Benoit Rittaud in french skeptic book "le mythe climatique". he says that young science begin with merged science and pseudo science, then expulse it like astronomy expulsed astrology. me I prefer the theory of ratio

Re: [Vo]:working on elementary antigravity II

I have published number papers and gave numerous lectures just search fro my name Frank Znidarsic -Original Message- From: Xavier Luminous To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Mar 29, 2012 6:03 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:working on elementary antigravity II On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:51 PM, wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Dorito UFO Spotted Again

Looks like a stealthy UAV of some sort, accompanied by the sound of an engine. That round patch in the underside could be a radar (like AWACS) or a lift fan such as used by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Aeronautics_X-Hawk There is a huge amount of military R&D work done in the middle of Engla

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

The updated Brillouin hypothesis for how the reaction works, interesting reading. Note that they do comment on the reaction reaching a run-away state when the lattice is heavily loaded that overwhelms the local capacity to absorb the energy and results in the release of some neutrons and x-rays -

Re: [Vo]:Dorito UFO Spotted Again

2012/3/30 Jouni Valkonen : > Quite nice video. This kind of video however is very easy to do as frame by > frame animation. It may require a lot of algorithmic work, but it is not > that difficult to do. There were more photorealistic antigravity nazi-ufos > in the Iron Sky movie! > > There was spe

Re: [Vo]:Dorito UFO Spotted Again

Quite nice video. This kind of video however is very easy to do as frame by frame animation. It may require a lot of algorithmic work, but it is not that difficult to do. There were more photorealistic antigravity nazi-ufos in the Iron Sky movie! There was speculation that it was based on antig

Re: [Vo]:Highly ENRgized C-force ='d by E-force ='s IFO

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:08 AM, wrote: > In reply to  Xavier Luminous's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:56:53 +0200: > Hi, > [snip] >>On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM,   wrote: >>> In reply to  Xavier Luminous's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:28:25 +0200: >>> Hi, >>> [snip] This Bohr model pi

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

Gluck, " IF this system is able to remove the three usual weaknesses of the majority of the pre-Rossi LENR systems i.e. low intensity, bad reproducibility and short duration. Peter " Systems ok. Weakness only by operator. Easy. "10 Plate Heat Exchanger SS304 Copper Brazed 7.5" x 2.9"" from "dud

Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David Roberson wrote: I do suspect that they would change their position and actions quickly if > anyone develops a technique that leads to dangerous weaponry. I hope that > this will never be possible and most of the evidence points in that > direction. > You

Re: [Vo]:New global warming curves show acceleration

Dear Vortex-L readers: Because this is my first post to this group I would like to introduce myself. My background is in communications, electrical engineering, systems theory, systems engineering, software architecture/engineering, and system integration. I got my degree (Dr.-Ing., a Doctorate in

RE: [Vo]:suggestion for speakers

Iwamura's transmutation experiments are very convincing. They confirm their results by three advanced instrumental techniques, secondary ion mass spectrometry(SIMS), x-ray photoelectron spectroscopy(XPS), and x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy (XRF). These three measurements confirming each oth

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy making waves

I hope that Mike MKcKubre who is a realist will let us know IF this system is able to remove the three usual weaknesses of the majority of the pre-Rossi LENR systems i.e. low intensity, bad reproducibility and short duration. Peter On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > I am partic