Jed:
I'm starting to run into folks who think it's crazy to assert that the
USPTO won't issue cold fusion patents. Is there a good LENR patent office
survey paper you would recommend?
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
I am not exactly sure of where you are going with this discussion. When I use
the term RMS source voltage, I am referring to the RMS value of the source
itself at its fundamental frequency which is the only drive signal present. DC
voltage is not seen nor present at this point according to
That pretty well sums it up.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 12:11 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to
debunk?
Naval scientist Eldon Byrd put it rather
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
This proved to me that pseudo skeptics are not willing to admit that they
harbor wrong ideas. He threatened me with a copyright notice which was
loony.
Seriously? That's a little disheartening. We're talking about
it is a site exterior to the LENR community
I have joined this discussion, see please:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/06/a-serious-site-raises-most-serious.html
This problem, reproducibility MUST be solved otherwise LENR is lost
a) for technology..no energy source ever
b) for scientific
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:57 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
During the past decade or so... during what little free time I have had at
my disposal, I have occasionally found myself constructing extensive
computer simulations to study the physics known as
Thanks, Terry,
Fun video.
It strikes me that it's all just a matter of perspective.
However, the author does make a good point that the creator of this video,
while it IS a beautiful (philosophically speaking) construction, makes a
critical and deceptive physics error by depicting the
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I am not exactly sure of where you are going with this discussion. When I
use the term RMS source voltage, I am referring to the RMS value of the
source itself at its fundamental frequency which is the only drive signal
It is doubtful that there can be a useful USPTO survey on this topic, since
no competent attorney these days would use the phrase cold fusion in a
disclosure. A case in point is Ahern's application. The title is:
Amplification of Energetic Reactions in Metal Nanoparticles.
It does not mention
Fyi, there is a very interesting redaction of a note by Horace Heffner to
the CMNS list concerning privacy in personal correspondence that was
included in a 2008 issue of the New Energy Times:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/NET29-8dd54geg.shtml#opinion
Eric
Someone asked why pseu-skeps are so relentless in their refusal to believe
anything new could happen. Let me try to put it in perspective. Pardon the
merely personal in what follows.
I think we have to see this in a larger context.
There's a guy who has been doing general relativity for many
Berke,
We have no reason to suspect that the tester who stated that there was no DC at
the input pins was not capable of coming to that conclusion. He would have
been stretching the facts quite a bit to say that and not have equipment that
would enable it to be detected. Cude and the others
Dave we're basically agreeing on everything and I'm confident that the
experimenters properly checked for DC, however I know how the
skeptical minds work and unless they put it clearly in writing (e.g.
in the report) there will be some small lingering doubt.
To summarize:
1) Diode rectification
Wow!! The main stream media finally acknowledge Rossi !!!
Andrea to make landfall in Florida
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/06/us/tropical-weather-andrea/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
They mention it being hot and disruptive .. I guess they couldn't decide
between Cold fusion or LENR.
Here's a paper that explains his theory.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.3224
Also, I am a fan of a, perhaps complementary, approach, that uses
graviton-graviton scatering:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.4005
2013/6/6 Danny Ross Lunsford antimatte...@yahoo.com
Someone asked why pseu-skeps are so
I have been posting various descriptions of my ECAT spice model behavior and I
continue to get feedback that suggests that I have done a poor job of teaching.
I want to discuss one issue during this post which will allow those sitting on
the fence to understand how positive feedback impacts
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher
Wow!! The main stream media finally acknowledge Rossi !!!
Andrea to make landfall in Florida
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/06/us/tropical-weather-andrea/index.html?hpt=hp_
t1
They mention it being hot and disruptive .. I guess they couldn't decide
I disagree about the win^4. Hurricanes are nature's way of transporting
excess energy from the tropics away from the tropics. If your scheme
worked, the energy would build up such that eventually a hurricane would
develop that was too strong for your 100 planes to stop and would in fact
be MUCH
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:20:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi in Florida
...
Anyway - some time ago we talked about a possible remedy to nip a
tropical storm in the bud, so to speak, using Pentagon technology … which is
actually available now.
...
So stupid. Act of god, lol. Act of a fantasy. We need to update our laws to
reality and modern times.
We are nature, the idea that humans should not mess with Nature is silly.
Giovanni
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
This is an interesting paper on the non equilibrium dynamics of Earth
atmosphere:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19948550
Giovanni
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.comwrote:
So stupid. Act of god, lol. Act of a fantasy. We need to update our laws
to
From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:08:50 AM
I have been posting various descriptions of my ECAT spice model
behavior and I continue to get feedback that suggests that I have
done a poor job of teaching.
Since you're not releasing your model (mine is
Ed,
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Ed,
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at
Danny Ross Lunsford antimatte...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anyone who has a real love for thinking and has been through an academic
science program, particularly in the hard sciences, will remember many
moments of utter disgust, because more often than not, the main purpose for
doing science - a love
I posted this on my home social media site (members only) ...
A so-called scientist makes some bizarre claims about work done
between a hick university and some minor military lab ... to some
insignificant furrin gummint body.
Leaked to an Italian site, but the relevant stuff is in English --
I guarantee that we are not seeing the twilight of the scientific age, but
there will need to be some people getting their a55es kicked.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Danny Ross Lunsford antimatte...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anyone who has a real love
Scientific discovery comes from independent minds. Independent minds come
from independent bodies. Independent bodies require self-sufficiency.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Danny Ross Lunsford antimatte...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anyone who has a
I've been too busy with analysing the latest Rossi test to follow this.
I've got the following official links to Storms' NAE
2012 Paper : http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanapproach.pdf
Feb 2013 Kick-off post :
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg77023.html
I have a
And skeptopaths are dependent thinkers. Use that word when conversing with
them. It should make them upset. For example, point out that their
insistence upon peer review is dependent thinking, which in fact it is.
Stuff like that.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM, James Bowery
7. Where is the thermalization?
I think it's on the inner steel cylinder, not in the Nickel
If that's so, then (based on my thermal model) the December COP=6 had an
outside
temperature of 500C and a central temperature of 750C
Hi All,
I've been considering ideas for running LENR experiments in parallel. I
know PF and others have done some experiments like this in the past with
running multiple electrolytic cells simultaneously, so this is certainly an
option. I'm wondering if there are any other thoughts on parallel
On Jun 6, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
I've been too busy with analysing the latest Rossi test to follow
this.
I've got the following official links to Storms' NAE
2012 Paper : http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanapproach.pdf
Feb 2013 Kick-off post :
Jones,
On enrichment vs geometry do you think it is both that are needed for
robust operation? Can Ni Cu wire be leached out like Ni Al to form a skeletal
catalyst on the wire surface? Celani must be querying his vendor for clues into
what changed..
Fran
Alan,
The Rossi tubules are on the 1u scale but are bumpy with
protrusions that must form much smaller geometry between the grains as the bulk
powder is contained..My posit for Rossi is that his NAE geometry is between
these grains and protrusions. It is a reverse of a skeletal
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
7. Where is the thermalization?
I think it's on the inner steel cylinder, not in the Nickel
If that's so, then (based on my thermal model) the December COP=6 had an
outside
temperature of 500C and
For a simple electrochem sort
see:http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CravensDfactorsaff.pdf
you can tell a lot by looking at the bubble patterns. (fine good, coarse bad).
Mike M and Fran T. were able to test loading with a wire system moving a R
tester along the wire to locate loaded areas.
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:37:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...
Thanks. (Not necessarily the answer I was hoping for !!!)
What answer were you hoping for?
Ed Storms
On Jun 6, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:37:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...
Thanks. (Not necessarily the answer I was hoping for !!!)
Nice analysis erke, I agree...
Rectifier change nothing (DC current if AC voltage produce no power).
HF will kill many devices,can be detected, can cause subharmonic, be
blocked by wires and cause heat.
DC voltage is the only option, assuming no device use a switching power
supply... it will kill
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 2:20:29 PM
You left out a possibility:- The gas.
I suspect it's pretty thin, relatively speaking , both as a target for futon
absorption (a technical term, laymen don't have to use it [note 1]) and heat
capacity (specific heat * mass).
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
What answer were you hoping for?
Ten minutes =8-(
Thanks Dennis,
I will read those papers and consider your ideas and methods. Looks like
some good ideas there. I have an electrochem method that is kind of
expensive on the supply and control side (multiple programmable power
supplies controlled by a computer - each delivering power to a single
Fran,
The Celani wire treatment is not the same as what happens with Raney nickel,
after aluminum is leached out. The oxidation step of Celani migrates or
draws copper to the surface of the wire as an oxide - and hydrogen reduction
then adds porosity, and those pores are mainly in the copper.
I assume you hit send before you were finished. Otherwise, this makes
no sense.
Ed Storms
On Jun 6, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
What answer were you hoping for?
Ten minutes =8-(
On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Ed,
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms
stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Ed,
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms
stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Jun 2, 2013, at
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Harry, you don't seem to understand the concept of work. Consider that
atoms in a lattice are held together by a force. They vibrate and this
vibration contains energy as the heat capacity. Is a piece of salt doing
Is there some way to be a part of this that does not involve dozens of email
messages per waking day to my account? Is there not some way to make an online
forum?
---
I write a little. I erase a lot. - Chopin
--- On Thu, 6/6/13, Edmund Storms
A new arxiv paper, possibly related to missing LENR em-emissions -
Superabsorption of light via quantum engineering
ABSTRACT: Almost 60 years ago Dicke introduced the term superradiance to
describe a signature quantum effect: N atoms can collectively emit light
at a rate proportional to N^2.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Danny Ross Lunsford
antimatte...@yahoo.comwrote:
Is there some way to be a part of this that does not involve dozens of
email messages per waking day to my account? Is there not some way to make
an online forum?
It would be very difficult to deal with Vortex
*Prof. Yeong Kim interviewed*: a veteran finally gets optimistic following
a technological breakthrough.
Please see:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/06/a-veterans-voice.html
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
http://help.yahoo.com/tutorials/mmail/mmail/mm_filter1.html
(although, as a new Google employee, I guess I really should be
encouraging you to switch to gmail :-)
On 6/6/2013 7:46 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Danny Ross Lunsford
antimatte...@yahoo.com
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:14:45 PM
Prof. Yeong Kim interviewed : a veteran finally gets optimistic
following a technological breakthrough.
Please see:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/06/a-veterans-voice.html
A great interview ... and
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
A new arxiv paper, possibly related to missing LENR em-emissions -
Superabsorption of light via quantum engineering
ABSTRACT: Almost 60 years ago Dicke introduced the term superradiance to
describe a signature quantum effect: N atoms can
Perhaps, this early e-catworld report is relevant -
Report From Visitor to Defkalion
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/03/report-from-visitor-to-defkalion/
Excerpt: ...I was told that they were trying to actually see what happens
in their device with some glass with a melting point of 1500degc.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Ed,
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
Harry, you don't seem to understand the concept of work. Consider that
atoms in a
Good news from Dr. Kim, and about DGT, however, what I find even more
interesting are the number of pageviews:
138,263. Peter, is this number a total for your entire site, or just that
page? Because if it was just the page, then you had 138K views in one day!
That is hard to believe. but if so,
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