>> Jed sez:
>>
>> Ya' gotta Tom V. See:
>>
>> http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2007/09/21/leading-scientists-and-thinkers-on-energy-thomas-f-valone/
>>
>> - Jed
>
> Howdy Jed,
>
> Notice at the end Tom mentions Planktos,,,
>
> "Supporting and buying stock in Planktos, Inc., which has a
> wonderf
On 9/24/07, Terry Blanton wrote:
> This one claims $1 per W:
>
> http://www.avasolar.com/
>
> Terry
Good. The more the merrier.
Hmmm...
AVA Solar's home page sunset scene looks like it was generated using
Eon-Software's Vue Infinite Version 6 Landscape generating program.
The package can generat
Jones sez:
> worth quoting (if not circling a date on next year's calendar):
>
> "Dr. Igor Goryachev of the prestigious Kurchatov Institute announced ...
> that he expects to have a 100 KW "alchemical reactor" ready for
> demonstration at ICCF-14 to be held during August 2008!"
>
> Wow! Sound like
Interesting views about the future of energy.
Well... sort of. (Must be a slow day in the office.)
CNN.com has posted some interesting comments from bloggers concerning
our planet's future energy resources.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/23/energy.forum/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/25
Terry Sez:
> Could it get us to Uranus?
After fueling up with Astroglide I suspect anything is possible.
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On 10/1/07, Jones Beene wrote:
> Damn you Terry, I can see this is going to waste half my day... since I
> have already got it ever so close.
>
...
> Terry Blanton wrote:
> > Great fun if you're not too busy.
> >
> > http://www.thecleverest.com/content/attractors.html
> >
> > You can move and til
I've heard of cold electricity before, that there has been tantalizing
evidence of this phenomenon witnessed over the years from various
experimental labs. However, my knowledge of what "cold electricity"
implies is a bit foggy. Can someone give a quick description?
Does it imply a kind of reverse
Assuming there is sufficient material available to build all the
necessary components could one not construct multiple "arrays" (I'm
probably using incorrect terminology here) in order to multiply the
power. The objective would be to increase the amount of power that is
being recorded to the point
Richard sez
...
> It is leading toward a acceleration of interest by the young
> brain, the uncluttered mind that has the ability to receive
> this type of stimulation by R Stiffler and trigger advances
> in further understanding.
>
> What is Ron's greatest achievement with his posts on UTube?
>
Dr. Stiffler,
My apologies if the following questions have already been answered.
What is your plan of action?
What in your opinion are the next steps that need to be performed? I
suspect many would like to see a scaled up configuration demonstrated
- which I gather you are working on.
What kin
Jones sez:
...
> I find Bill's T-coil comparison enlightening ;-)
> but lacking (in the sense of apples-to-oranges)
> wrt to the latest experiment -- where there is
> NO, ZERO, NADA, signal... merely ground, or
> DrS's touch.
...
> Catch-22 it is "cold electricity," whatever that
> is, and yes
Is the barium ferrite core used in Dr.S's device a permanent magnet?
I'm assuming that's not the case. I'm assuming there are no permanent
magnets involved.
Am I right on this?
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I'm pretty much in agreement, Jed.
I'm a latent lefty. What I was not formally trained to perform I
learned to do naturally with my left hand. However, I write with my
right hand because I was formally trained back in kindergarten to use
my right hand.
I immediately saw the figure rotating in a c
On 10/23/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> Now remember he can drive many LEDs with this
> circuit--
> the actual limit is unknown, as the more he adds, the
> more it seems to "want" BUT catch-22 this is tedious
> to do, since matching voltage drop per diode is
> necessary. There i
Jed sez:
...
> Perhaps I can entice a larger number of readers here to look at the
> image. Let me point out that the image in question is a black and
> white silhouette image of a rather buxom young woman doing a pirouette.
>
> - Jed
I know a computer animated POSER figurine when I see one! ;-)
>From Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rotating illusions:
>
> http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/rotate-e.html
>
> Harry
Where's my Dramamine.
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I wondered how long it would take before someone mention Floyd Sweet's work.
Surprised that it took this long.
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> Terry sez:
> > Jones sez:
>
>
> > I believe that Ron Stiffler is on the verge of showing
> > WAY WAY more than 683 lm/W of output wh
Hi Ron,
To be honest I don't know what to make of your prototype. It seems
prudent from my point of view to remain as neutral as one can under
the circumstances. Nevertheless, I'm both fascinated and encouraged by
what I've seen so far. I'm sure there are many (myself included) who
wish to be kept
Bill sez:
> Now hold on right there.
>
> All of us on vortex are SUPPOSED to assume that it's a conventional
> effect. If we did not, then we'd become true crackpots: the kind who are
> so in love with Weird Discoveries that we stop questioning our own
> assumptions, stop critiquing our own work
Bill sez:
> The other side of fooling ourselves is the Scoffers' delusion, where all
> phenomena are well known, and Weird Discoveries are impossible by
> definition. After seeing many examples of this, I suspect that it's not
> driven by ego, but by fear. Fear of the unknown, and worship of the
I'd like to approach this from a different angle.
It obviously takes a long time to get Newman's flywheel to rev up to
around 100 RPM. It's also true that even with a tiny torque force
applied, given enough time (and minimal friction to contend with) any
heavy flywheel can eventually be made to sp
Stephen,
If your initial and impressive stab at calculating the amount of
torque generated in the Newman flywheel appears to be tremendous, (and
I gather you seriously dispute your conclusions), I would agree with
you. And, of course, Newman ain't telling us how much torque is being
generated. He
This is the second time I've tried sending this message...
The following question is the result of my on-going God-in-a-box
computer, or GIAB simulations, using Visual Basic 2005 with .NET
Framework. (This GIAB has decided to take a temporary water cooler
break to smooze with fellow Vort deities.)
Thanks, Stephen, for the celestial mechanics tips. I've been raiding
the wikipedia files a lot these days. I'll look up those terms you
suggested.
Several days ago in the midst of my celestial programming challenges I
had come to the same preliminary conclusions (and practical solutions)
as you ha
I like Ron's generous offer to avail his lab's resources to perform
independent replication of the hotly contested Stiffler circuit.
Perhaps Dr. Stiffler may be able to lend assistance - if he has the
time.
IMHO too many individuals are in danger of taking Dr. Stiffler's
recent claims TOO PERSONAL
>From Jones:
...
> OK. This is an ostensible (apples-to-oranges) COP of over 3.
>
> There is room for improvement. He ran out of the best LEDs
> (white ultra-brites) as you can see in the video, and had to
> substitute some blues. A new shipment of whites is possibly
> already there.
>
> The sola
>From W. Beaty
...
> Also, has someone replicated Ron's closed loop device,
> the stand-alone-no-signal-generator version which lights
> LEDs? If so, which message announces this success?
Not sure if this specifically answers your question but according to
my uneducated eye there may have been,
On Nov 1, 2007 9:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> Well, my L.E.D. lit up right away and brightened when I extended the
> open lead on the secondary of the Xfmr. It should peak at 377 Ohm.
> Go figure.
>
> Terry
Are you saying you have performed your own replication of the Stiffler
circuit? (success
Jones sez:
...
> Stay tuned (most likely to the Hartmann site) for a major announcement.
>
> Jones
Translated to meaning that the loop between apples and oranges may
soon be closed?
(He said wistfully!)
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Jed sez:
> Georgia is suffering from the worst drought in recorded
> history. Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia along with "various
> religious and political leaders" prayed for rain this
> afternoon at the state capital. A small number of atheists
> and people who oppose mixing church and state protes
On 11/13/07, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> OrionWorks wrote:
> > Jed sez:
> >
> >> Georgia is suffering from the worst drought in recorded
> >> history. Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia along with "various
> >> religious
Newman gives me the impression that he sincerely believes he has
created a "free" energy device. OTOH, I wonder if some of Newman's
support staff share his sincerity. I suspect many are in it for the
ride - the rush. (If I put on this white lab coat does that make me an
important scientist type per
"Researcher sets saltwater on fire."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/11/14/saltwater.fire/index.html#cnnSTCText
http://tinyurl.com/35gkwd
Looks like John Kanzius' research is beginning to filter into the
mainstream. Could be interesting.
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Hi Stephen,
> OrionWorks wrote:
>> Newman gives me the impression that he sincerely believes
>> he has created a "free" energy device.
> Then why doesn't he include the power produced by the engine
> in his flysheet?
>
> He can calculate it from the
Hi Stephen,
> OrionWorks wrote:
>> Newman gives me the impression that he sincerely believes
>> he has created a "free" energy device.
> Then why doesn't he include the power produced by the engine
> in his flysheet?
>
> He can calculate it from the
[snip]
Stephen asks respectively:
> How much power does the engine produce?
>
>
> > I just spoke with Joseph Newman about your "questions" and he said
> > for me to pass on to you the following:
> >
> > *"Let's cut to the chase.
>
> The "chase" is the output power. You haven't stated it.
>
>
achine is powering that 375-lb positive displacement
> > > using (less than) 20 WATTS of input.
> > >
> > > Run the numbers, Lawrence. You can do it.
> > >
> > > Subtract 20 watts from 7,460 watts and see what you come up with.
> >
> > Tell us
Greetings, Thomas,
>
> Blatant, that's Joe. Haven't you heard Steven? Joe thinks that he is
> god. He was unreveled years ago, and AFAIK, nothings changed.
>
> Go heat water Joe!!!
>
Indeed, go heat some water, as Dr. Park would say.
I think it would be more accurate to describe Newman in terms
>From Terry:
> http://publicparapsychology.blogspot.com/2007/11/brain-response-to-future-event.html
> A Brain Response to a Future Event?
> Whenever we suddenly encounter something that frightens or startles
> us, our body has a tendency to "jump" in response. Over the past
> decade, a considera
While seemingly drastic I can appreciate preventative action of this
sort to protect one's work, particularly in our current cyber-age
where everything is fair game to the unscrupulous.
What puzzles me nevertheless about Staffer's recent action is the
apparent suddenness of it all. It gives many o
Terry sez:
> Too late:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/11/21/scicosmos121.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox
>
Reminds me of an episode from Star Trek The Next Generation. Picard is
having a Near Death Experience and whom should he encounter on the
other side but his old ne
Jones,
Having been a semi-passive lurker at Luke's Hydrino discussion group
for many years I've kept loose tabs on the recent "Fifth Force"
discussion. Needless to say, and as you have pointed out, John E.
Connett (aka Nora B.) and Dr. Z. are do not appear to be terribly
impressed with Dr. Mills'
A slow Friday afternoon at the office. (... and the pursuit of happiness.)
> Jed sez:
>> OrionWorks sez:
>>While predicted futuristic life styles of leisure might sound
>>idyllic there is a deadly side to this equation which must be
>>avoided at all costs, particularl
Jed sez:
...
> In a century or two, food and other necessities of
> life will be so cheap it will not be worth charging
> people for them. I suppose that food will cost ten cents
> a day or so (discounting inflation). It will hardly matter
> if a person wants to do labor for that money. We will j
>From R.C.Macaulay
>
> Nick Palmer posted..
> This seems to be the outfit that will be presenting the "breakthrough".
>
> http://www.icecircle.org/ethos.htm
>
>
> copied from their website ICE Circle Innovation circle..Our
> philosophy is put inventors with clean energy devices together wi
It is obvious as well as inevitable from my perspective that all the
races will eventually intermix, most likely leaving the planetary
population with a dominance of Eurasian features. Meanwhile, rare
North European features, while they will continue to crop up on
occasion like red hair and green e
Richard sez:
> Been reading this thread with interest at the views expressed. Anyone care
> to expound on the impact of another component CULTURE.
> What role does culture play in the grand scheme of things?
>
> Richard
In certain cultures if a woman has sex outside the sanctity of
marriage
Michel sez about Nanosolar:
http://earth2tech.com/2007/12/12/nanosolar-starts-thin-film-solar-panel-production/
...
> ...back in July, Roscheisen told us: "Yes, we're on track with this. Do not
> expect an
> Apple-style product launch, though." Roscheisen tells us that the company has
> reached
very evening, and I ain't complaining!) Its been my
experience that that most exciting board games of chance inevitably
seem to boil down to compulsions of repeatedly experiencing the sheer
terror of not knowing what the hell is going to happen next.
For most of us game board participants that's often perceived as
survival of the fittest.
C'on! Whattaya waiting for! Throw the damned dice!
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lent of a Galactic Gargle Blaster at DB Saloon?
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The dirty truth of the matter is that I instigated the latest OT "crap
shoot" discussion thread as a thinly veiled attempt to interest people
in linking over to www.zazzle.com/orionworks web site where I'm in the
middle of reorganizing all of my OrionWorks products available for
s
1 = 18 -- set aside the 6
> * Roll B: 5, 4, 2, 1 -- don't set any aside
> * Roll C: 6, 5, 1, 1 -- set aside the 6 and the 5
> * Roll D: 4, 2 -- you're stuck with these
> * Final Score: 6, 6, 5, 4, 2 = 23 (out of a max of 30)
Anyone studying deadly bacterial strains and antibiotics knows the
consequences of that process all too well.
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tube babies.
(c) Copyright 2007 Zeta Reticuli, All Rights Reserved, version 34.21002.0221.
"Vista-delux" version due out in 2017.
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e all enjoy eating.
Previous discussions on similar topics have consistently rolled off
you as quickly as water off the back of a duck.
How unfortunate.
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onsideration they may eventually (and perhaps more realistically?)
produce vehicles that can go 500 miles between charges.
How long does it take to recharge one of these nano batteries?
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of the fittest.
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an hour and a half. He was conservative, it took just over
> two hours to sink.
The economy moves in mysterious ways. Oh what the hay. It's as good an
explanation as most others I've heard lately.
Happy Hanukkah, Thomas.!
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hnson
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may eventually be able to come up with some
intelligent follow-up questions.
PS: How in the world do you keep all those equations straight in your head!
PS^2: Richard, Thanks.
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see:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.1215
What's happening in Stifflerland these days?
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ons would be
that when we observe distant galaxies through telescopes there's a
good chance that a significant percentage of them are composed
entirely of mirror matter?
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e a tendency to look a little
bigger than they really are? This seems to me to be a logical
conclusion.
> BTW, there are some spectacular galaxy photos located at:
>
> http://heritage.stsci.edu/gallery/gallery.html
Great photos. Thanks.
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nuclear material. Maybe we should thank
our lucky stars of the fact that we apparently live in an obscure and
unimportant portion of the galaxy, a neighborhood totally dominated by
one particular kind of matter. ;-)
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Jones,
I believe you may have been the first to bring this Indian car company
to our attention:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/10/news/international/india_cheapcar.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008011006
http://tinyurl.com/2gvyls
steve
--
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any book can aspire to. Fancy
that.
Perhaps the thought removing Ed's book was perceived as too blatant of
a whitewash. After all, one must maintain at least *some* semblance of
fair and balance reporting. ;-)
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Wait a minute! At least Ed Storms book is listed second to top in the
"Reference" section. At least that's a good thing.
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On 1/10/08, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/1
Jed sez:
> Regarding the Storms book listing in Wikipedia, the books are listed in
> alphabetical order by author, as they should be. I put them that way at one
> point. They have deleted Beaudette again, which is an atrocity.
I forgot about Beaudette's book. Glad I read it.
I suppose with a t
ap to create. If sufficient
compression could be generated as the LN boils off could it be used to
power the car?
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e.
Dang! Just like in the movies.
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nt Johnson
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o longer useful in getting American aid. In this game
> of poker, Bush has now lost every hand and has no idea how to play the
> game.
>
> Ed
>
> OrionWorks wrote:
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/15/bush.mideast/index.html
> > http://tinyurl.com/23yc5c
> >
es... and the revolution is only a week away.
A wise Saudi businessman once stated:
My grandfather herded camels.
My father rode bicycles.
I drive cars.
My children will pilot jets.
My grandchildren will herd camels.
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******
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easurement that every other independent
laboratory was too dumb to notice, well, it's probably perceived under
the circumstances to see who else is brave enough to stick their neck
out first.
"No, please! YOU FIRST!"
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inetica Museum destroyed a
considerable amount confidence and good will in STEORN's claims.
I have to ask myself: Right at this moment... The Evidence as
presented so far in the public domain - what are the odds...
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Howdy Richard,
I'm sure I was a witness as well.
I look forward to making my own unique contributions to the Dime Box
Saloon Science Phenomena Society.
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s a way to ameliorate the stepping down process.
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w where the man stands.
>
> - Jed
Ah yes, who shall we get to speak on god's behalf. Time to form
another committee. Better yet, a PAC!
I do not have to be an atheist to find Huckabee's quote equally appalling.
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>From Terry Blanton:
> Dr. Stiffler has just added his ninth video:
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wklrnyQMktA
>
> Terry
I was lost. What does the latest video imply?
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ople currently trying to download the video that the Google
servers can't handle it? I don't believe that for one second.
Do I need to just keep trying, or has the video been temporarily disabled?
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nt need black rocks and fire to go choo-choo?
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Mongo like candy!
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ecture. At last! Thanks for making
this available.
I would like to download Dr. Storms lecture onto my hard drive. I used
to be able to do that with previous Google videos, however I don't see
the how to do that anymore. Any suggestions?
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ay?docid=-9026092151512597723
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rs and shadows have allowed society to
brainwash away their ability to perceive the imagery for what they
truly are.
At least I knew what my problem was.
Other than that the food was great.
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uot; to determine what it was that they saw.
Typical comment from McGaha:
MCGAHA: "Are you qualified to look at the sky at night?"
Move along... move along... Nothing to see here.
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s seen to be
occluded by the object. That was how the investigators determined the
apparent 900 feet diameter of the object - by the stars that were
eclipsed by something opaque.
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cognizable and
would distract from the need to project a proper mystique of aloof
alien-ness.
And now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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teresting and far more complex than the need for many researchers to
reduce the phenomenon to simple alien abductions, or encounters with
Angels or Satin's agents. I suspect there is recorded testimony and
stories involving this kind of human experience that has been with us
since we first became Homo Sapiens.
As for Dr. Boyland, I guess one could say he continues to serve his purpose.
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tion and misdirection that it's probably the
wiser course of action to simply get on with one's life. Aliens or no
aliens, I still have a mortgage to pay off. If it turns out that there
really IS an element of truth to SOME of these outrageous claims I
suspect it will eventually come out in the wash. Unfortunately for me
I'll probably either be too senile or just too stupid to comprehend
the sobering ramifications - particularly how I had been ramified.
Yours truly,
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overnor Symington. It would appear that no one
got a decent photograph of the object. This is understandable since
the object was opaque, and it was in the evening.
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re also
> fascinated by music.
http://orionworks.com/audio/index.htm
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unpredictable distraction that
the majority of paying magazine and cable subscribers would
essentially care less that Britney Spears was once again spotted in
public sans underwear.
Oops!
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tails for even $2 per gallon will
> steeply undercut gasoline's price and significantly reduce U.S.
> oil consumption.
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effort to reassure me, "That was a
complement."
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ot soaks and massive "C" dosing I'd probably tire of
the repetition. ;-)
Jed's previous comments remind me of the film "GATTACA".
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utation process!
The Creationists lost their case. It's my understanding that for the
moment "Intelligent Design" aka "Creationsism" is not considered a
viable scientific theory and should not be taught in schools as an
alternative scientific theory.
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