Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:48 PM, wrote: > I calculate them. If you have access to a windows machine, you can > download the > program from http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Isotopes.zip (if it doesn't > work, > please let me know ;) > (Elements beyond Uranium are excluded). > Sorry, It didn't work.

Re: [Vo]:What does hopfion mean ?

2013-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wuTyPEpJ0g Harry On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > The macro version appears to be a Rodin coil > > http://peswiki.com/images/5/5a/Rodin_coil_torus_jp70.jpg > > > -Original Message- > From: Terry Blanton? > http://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
applies to all types of nuclei >>> equally. >>> >>> This idea does not address LENR reactions in only nuclei with an even >>> number of nucleons: Ni58, Ni60, Ni62, Ni64. It also does not explain how no >>> radioactive isotopes are produced. >>> &g

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:16 AM, wrote: > In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 17 Jun 2013 02:12:21 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >Ni62 + H --> Cu63 > >63Cu is a stable copper isotope > > > >Pd106 + H --> Ag107 > > 1H+106Pd => 107Ag + 5.788 MeV (exothermic) > > >Pd108 + H --> Ag109 > > 1H+108Pd

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-16 Thread Harry Veeder
does not explain how no > radioactive isotopes are produced. > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> Recent evidence indicates the charge radius of proton is smaller in the >> presence of a muon than in the presence of an electron. >> http:/

[Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-16 Thread Harry Veeder
Recent evidence indicates the charge radius of proton is smaller in the presence of a muon than in the presence of an electron. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#Charge_radius Since a muon is a massive cousin of the electron, a muon's orbit is much smaller than an electron and therefore its orbi

Re: [Vo]:Washington Post Poll

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
ost-web-poll/ > > > > On 6/14/13 11:49 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > The way this works is that readers submit a comment describing their > preference and each comment receive votes. The comments with the most votes > appears at the top and it is for LENR. In addition, I browsed a

Re: [Vo]:Washington Post Poll

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Washington Post Poll > > Vote on this question: > What energy sources offer the most promise for the U.S. economically and > environmentally? > > Registration is required to vote, but currently LENR has the most number &

[Vo]:Washington Post Poll

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Washington Post Poll Vote on this question: What energy sources offer the most promise for the U.S. economically and environmentally? Registration is required to vote, but currently LENR has the most number of votes. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/what-energy-sources-offer-the-mo

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
hey just turn > their backs to him and continue with their selfish hard heartedness. > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> Data - "Drop the shields" >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHoXUP804vg >> >> Harry >> > >

Re: [Vo]:Al Gore is aware of recent LENR developments

2013-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote: > Good News! > > In a google hangout that just occured, Vice President Al Gore > said that there have been "VERY interesting" developments > in cold fusion recently, and he used significant tonal inflection > to emphasize his point. > > He al

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Data - "Drop the shields" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHoXUP804vg Harry

[Vo]:OT: water gong

2013-06-10 Thread Harry Veeder
water gong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SisUWArnlGg Harry

[Vo]:Wanted: Pilot Customer for ECAT 1 MW plant

2013-06-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Wanted: Pilot Customer for ECAT 1 MW plant Hydro Fusion is looking for a Pilot Customer for the first ECAT 1 MW Plant to operate in Sweden. The customer will only pay for the energy produced by the ECAT, i.e. Hydro Fusion and Leonardo Corporation will take responsibility for all associated costs i

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > This may be a little off topic but anyway . . . On NHK the other day I saw > a documentary about food exports and high-tech agriculture in the > Netherlands. Here is a web page about it: > > http://www.hollandtrade.com/sector-information/agric

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
hysics, and momentum conservation to LENr is like > applying ballistic and IBM model of travelers, to a crowded metro cart in > fire. > > I imagine physicist can find a better way to explain it... this way to > explain is how I understand it. > > What I take from that expla

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
ttering theory describing > the Coulomb barrier problem is applicable to scattering experiments with > nuclear beams." > > a much more sexy explanation than my microelectronic experience that QM in > solid is ... strange... ( ;-) ) > > > > 2013/6/7 Harry Veeder > &g

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:40 AM, francis wrote: > On Thursday June 6th Harry said > > Ok, I realise why we diverge in our approaches to your model. I don't start > > > with the assumption that the lattice is in a state of thermal equilibrium. > > > I assume the presence of thermal f

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > >> It seems to me if he was certain they were impossible he would >> have explicitly mentioned violation of conservation of momentum/energy >> since &g

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > Thanks. Take your time, but it would be nice to read the source. >> > > The headings that set out the three "miracles" in his book are (pp. > 111-

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > From: "Harry Veeder" > > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 12:29:30 PM > > > Somebody with a copy of Huizenga's book could this settle this issue > > quickly. > > I have an early edition (he revi

Re: [Vo]:"QBism"

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
No, sorry. I first saw it on the newsstand and just flipped through it. Harry On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Teaser. Do you have a subscription? > >

[Vo]:"QBism"

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Wanted, dead or alive (not dead and alive) http://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2013/scientific-american-article-explains-a- way-to-resolve-quantum-state-paradoxes-123.php <> --- Can Quantum Bayesianism Fix the Paradoxes of Quantum Mechanics? A new version of quantum theor

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
If He took off by itself, how fast would it be moving? Detecting and measuring the speed of He particles would be a way checking for a conservation of momentum violation. harry On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM, wrote: > In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:15:46 -0400: > H

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Probbably Huizenga himself has used different variants, > this is like folklore. I confees I have not read the Huizenga > and Taubes books, have seen them when visting at Gene Mallove's > office in 1998 but I was not too interested- they were discussed over and > over. > Peter >

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Peter, Kim says Huizenga's three miracles are: (1) suppression of the DD Coulomb repulsion (Gamow factor) * * (2) no production of nuclear products (D+D → n+ 3He, etc.) (3) the violation of the momentum conservation in free space In other places I have seen Huizenga three miracles written like th

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > Ed, > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > >> >> Harry, you don't seem to understand the concept of work. Consid

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > >> >> >> Harry, you don't seem to understand the concept of work. Consider that >> atoms in a lattice are held together by a force. They vibrate and this >> vibration contains energy as the heat capacity. Is a piece of salt doing >> work as it

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Ed, On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > Ed, > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > >> >> On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >&g

Re: [Vo]:FYI: New experiments challenge fundamental understanding of electromagnetism

2013-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
I wonder what Randall Mills would predict. Harry On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: > FYI: > > http://phys.org/news/2012-11-fundamental-electromagnetism.html > > ** ** > > Possible connection to Mills’ f/H or inverse rydberg states??? > > ** ** > > "If 20 of titaniu

[Vo]:update from the MFMP project

2013-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-4/271-s-g-cells-preliminary-test-findings-for-run-2 <> harry

Re: [Vo]:I confess

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Hi Roger, There may be transition range well below c but still very very fast by everyday experience which gives rise to the condition you imagine. I too have wonder if there is some connection between coulombic forces and speed...and frequency. Harry On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Roger

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Ed, On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > >> >> On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >> On Thu,

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> The tactic of the obstructionist is to avoid dealing with the case >> > > > > The avoidance here is from the true believers who insist that any > alternative explanation must described in d

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: >> >>> >>> But I think you misunderstood. I was not referring to new science &

[Vo]:A New Direction for Thermoelectric Cooling

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Materials in which heat flows perpendicular to an electric current could lead to better devices for cooling electronics. http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/63 Harry

Re: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
A visual demonstration would impress the masses. Use a real ecat and a dummy ecat with the same input power to inflate a balloon The real ecat will inflate the balloon faster. Harry On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > DJ Cravens wrote: > > Notice I did not say flow calorime

Re: [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
Metrologically speaking, it doesn't matter if an entity creates excess heat by violating the laws of thermodynamics. What matters is that our instruments work according to the laws of thermodynamics. As long as they do, we can determine with confidence how much excess heat the entity creates. harr

Re: [Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
gt; But I missed the point... > - Brad > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> With the seven letters LENR CF H make a word. >> >> Harry >> > >

Re: [Vo]:A Language Upgrade Needed for LENR?

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
frigorific! Harry On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jack Cole wrote: > Good points Alain. I suppose it may all become a mute point as more > positive results roll in, and if there is a running reactor that the public > can visit. > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > >> La

Re: [Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
A sign of something to come or a sign of something that was missed !? ;-) Harry On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Craig Brown wrote: > FRENCH > > Original Message > Subject: [Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge > From: Harry Veeder > Date: Mon, June 03, 2013 3:14

[Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
With the seven letters LENR CF H make a word. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Sonoluminescence

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
have gamma rays been detected coming from these bubbles? If not then the phenomena is probably another example of LENR-CF-f/h- Harry On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Joe Hughes wrote: > Interesting video clip featuring Dr. Seth Putterman describing his > thoughts on "A star in a jar". > > S

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > Giving Rossi the benefit of the doubt, the fact that an > external stimulus is required in the form of resistance heating (also heat, > as has been pointed out), this seems to indicate that one of two phenomena, > or both, would need to be occu

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones, Did he make the background measure and the active run measure with the detector in the same place and same orientation? If he did, then the dip recorded during the active run would mean an _active_ ecat can reduce background radiation. Harry On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > >> Harry, imagine balls held in line by springs. If the end ball is pull >> away with a force and le

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Apply heat?

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Extra heat in the form of thermal pulse might disrupt a resonance that was enabling the production excess heat. Harry On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, David L Babcock wrote: > Apparently there's two threads of thought here: > > a: Apply heat to make the process start, and more heat to take

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > The ultimate source of energy cannot be determined as of now but >> Rossi’s hundreds of hours of operation at kilowatt levels with no gammas >> clearly indicates NO fusion. >> > > I don'

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Harry Veeder wrote: > > >> Likewise if the testers concluded that the ecat did not work, the true >> believers will reject the assessment >> because they consider the testers untrustworthy. >> > > The

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > Skeptics would change their minds in a heart beat with good evidence, just > as they did in 1908. But there is nothing that will convince true believers > in cold fusion that they are wrong. > >> > > You should persuade the youtube poster t

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > The simple fact is that the measurements made and reported are woefully > inadequate to exclude deception. > > Unless Rossi tells people how to build an ecat or starts selling them, no test will ever exclude deception. It always possible that

Re: [Vo]:Jeane Manning about Defkalion, second sending

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Peter, If it will be a real demo why didn't she write that? I listened to Sterling Allan's audio interview from two months ago and the representative from Defkalion stated quite clearly that they intended to set up working device at National Instruments Week this august. Perhaps Defkalion is no lo

Re: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
A single wire does have a magnetic field. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manoderecha.svg Harry On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David Roberson wrote: > I guess I fell for the word trap without looking at the drawing. What > was discussed about the magnetic fields of solenoids is correct,

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > you have a point. > > a good idea for latter as someone said in a forum is: > - to invite students who will play the skeptics, with stupid ideas, most > stupid, some not so stupid... with naive, not far from the one of > incompetent or volunta

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM, David Roberson wrote: > >> Josh, what is common sense now becomes ancient history when the newest >> theories come out. >> > > Yes, I know that happens sometimes. And sometimes things that are common > sense re

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> As dave explains it makes sense if the energy input provides cooling >> power. >> >> >> > Exactly. The whole thing is nuts. If it really needed

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm not talking about initiating. I'm talking about susta

Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Mark Gibbs wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> >> I suspect "hand waving" began as a derisive reference to occult >> activities since these might involve the waving of hands and/or a wand. . >&g

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > Harry, imagine balls held in line by springs. If the end ball is pull away > with a force and let go, a resonance wave will pass down the line. Each > ball will alternately move away and then toward its neighbor. If outside > energy is suppl

Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > If we abandon this rule, or if we call it "hand waving" as Gibbs does >> here, progress in science will come to a halt. >> > > I think there's been a simple misunderstanding of terms.

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
The COP will be higher outside on a wintery windy night. Harry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > I agree Dave, I have been providing this explanation for several years > without any effect. I'm glad you are adding your voice. The critical point > at which the temperature m

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
As dave explains it makes sense if the energy input provides cooling power. Harry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> . . . If you unplug a Rossi cell and try to make it self-sustain without >> input, it will melt. >> >> An analogy to fire may be useful to un

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > I'm not talking about initiating. I'm talking about sustaining. I have no > problem using electricity to initiate the ecat. But if it's a source of > energy, it should behave like one and be able to at least power itself. > > > A match is ne

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
gap. The > electrons are part of this structure and are also trapped. Nevertheless, > the electrons can move freely within each Hydroton, thereby acting as if > the Hydroton were superconducting. > > Ed Storms > > > On May 28, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > E

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
The melting point is close to > being linear between 1083° and 1453°, the mp of Ni. > > Ed Storms > On May 29, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > >> "We know that Ni powder sinters at the tempe

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > "We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produce" > > What about adding some small amount of some other element to raise the > sintering/melting temp; commonly done in alloying. > > OOTB suggestion... > Anyone ever tried an

Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Hmmm when the nickel starts to melt would bubbles of H2 form within the nickel? Harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > So, are we are suggesting instead a much thinner layer [.3g] spread over > the entire inner surface of the reactor only

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
no, no, no...cheese power requires a cheese sauce! ;-) Harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On May 29, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > You did not use the potassium based "secret sauce" that Rossi uses. > > > How do you know his sauce is potassium based? > > > Wi

Re: [Vo]:MODERATOR: andrewppp removed

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > William Beaty wrote: > > >> multiple violations of rule 2. >> >> (I suspect that he didn't read the rules before subscribing.) >> > > Whoa! That seems precipitous. He did not seem so bad to me. > > > Rule 2. NO SNEERING. Ridicule, derision,

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> But anyone in his right mind who looks at all of the experimental >> evidence for LENR will be convinced. > > > I mean the totality of the evidence, as Mallove called it. People such as > Cude deny that there is such a thing a

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power measurments

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Among cheeses, I believe Stilton has one of the highest energy densities. Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:36 PM, David Roberson wrote: > The report included a couple of graphs on page 27. One was power out per > their measurement, the other power in. The mere fact that the power out > versus

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
not able to > teach him elementary electronic theory. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Harry Veeder > To: vortex-l > Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 1:19 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, > supports David Roberson's line

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
nd cannot > interpret the "funny symbols"? Good grief. There sure are some ripe > steamers on this list. Roberson was bad enough. Then there's ...ah > fergeddit. > > Andrew > > - Original Message - > *From:* Harry Veeder > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
I think you are bluffing. harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Andrew wrote: > ** > It's a capacitor in parallel with a resistor. I am underwhelmed. > > Andrew > > - Original Message - > *From:* Harry Veeder > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
The diagram reminds me of constructions consisting of springs and dashpots in series and parallel which are used to model viscoelastic materials. see e.g. http://gertrude-old.case.edu/276/materials/5.fig/05.htm6.gif http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0023643808000790-gr1.jpg His circuit

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Ed, do you agree that what primarily keeps the protons in the gap is their repulsion with the lattice nuclei and what primarily keeps electrons in the gap is their repulsion with the electron shells around the lattice nuclei? harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > Dave, y

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
so the secret cable is a high voltage cable? Harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Andrew wrote: > ** > Thank you for being straightforward on both points. > > *And now we definitively know that the cable itself is "secret".* > ** > Of course, that will not bother the majority of people here.

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > Furthermore, the fact that it was predicted means it's not an > extraordinary claim at all. Everyone expected it. It fit a consistent > picture based on a century of robust experimental science. The 50 years was > spent developing tools to

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
>From Rossi's perspective there is a danger that and unscrupulous competitor might place evidence of fraud if he is not careful about who tests his equipment. Harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > > > 2013/5/28 Jed Rothwell > >> Andrew wrote: >> >> ** >>> Would you hav

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Rossi confuses and annoys many people by being both open and secretive at the same time. Harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andrew wrote: > ** > Nope. Had you been paying attention to the interviews with the testers, > you would have read that quote as #7 in a list of 7. As for the Rossi >

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On May 27, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > >> >> On May 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >> &g

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
David, As Joshua has suggested, the authors of the report should consult with an expert in spectral analysis and include his remarks in their report. harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:22 AM, David Roberson wrote: > The question of the emissivity seems to keep rearing its head. One thing > is

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:18 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > >> Josh questions: >> >> “I'm talking about the December test, when a different paint was used. I >> don't think we know anything about the emissivity of that paint, nor its >> dep

[Vo]:Pekka Janhunen analysis supports the reported underestimation of radiated power

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
From a comment thread on e-catworld: http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/rossi-no-longer-controls-e-cat-business/ Pekka Janhunen on May 27, 2013 at 8:01 pm Off-topic for the thread: the question whether assuming emissivity equal to one indeed yields to underestimation of the radiated power. Now I

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: >>&

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: >> >>> >>> But we have no idea what the emissivity of the paint used

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > But we have no idea what the emissivity of the paint used in the December > test was, nor whether it was wavelength dependent. There may be a paint > for which an assumption of emissivity of 1 greatly overestimates the power. > A few measur

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
Andrew, remember the cop is a conservative estimate so it is just a coincidence that the numbers happen to have those ratios. Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Andrew wrote: > ** > Ekstrom makes the same point as I have failed to make with Dave (and upon > which nobody else here has raise

Re: [Vo]:Synchronization

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
The tiny but regular oscillations of the platform enables the synchronisation. However I bet if you constantly nudge the platform the synchronisation will vanish. Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:03 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Best to keep these soldiers off of that long bridge. Very nice effe

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
epulsion makes intuitive sense. But that's OK - QM is > nothing if not unintuitive. > > Andrew > > - Original Message - > *From:* Harry Veeder > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:17 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technolo

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On May 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > The process you have described has the characteristics of > a ratchet. Curiously, Jones used the ratchet metaphor in another post where > he

Re: [Vo]:Q&A with Hanno Essen on recent E-Cat test

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
commercial free?! ;-) harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > 6 months of live streaming! > > > 2013/5/26 > >> >> Courtesy of Pure Energy Systems News - >> >> Q&A With Hanno Essen Regarding Recent E-Cat Test >> >> >> http://www.pureenergyblog.com/2013/05/26/1232/8502322_qa

Re: [Vo]:Re: Constant temperature Operation of ECAT?

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
You are neglecting the "I-can't-see-inside" sceptics. Harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Andrew wrote: > ** > Seems to me that if active cooling control is used as the only control > input, thus satisfying the "unplug it!" sceptics (and I'm one of them), > then it only has a chance of work

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
x27;s just the way > it is. And I suspect that the testers were similarly cognitively > constrained. > > Andrew > > - Original Message - > *From:* Harry Veeder > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:15 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The inanity of th

[Vo]:Racing Towards Very Different Hydrogen Futures

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Racing Towards Very Different Hydrogen Futures <> http://www.evworld.com/focus.cfm?cid=147 Harry

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - > *From:* Harry Veeder > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:08 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis > > what about a fuse? or a light bulb(s)? > > harry > > > On Sun, May 26,

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
re there any EE's on this list except for Duncan and > myself? > > Andrew > > - Original Message - > *From:* Harry Veeder > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:10 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis &g

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
No knowledge of the waveform would be required if a circuit breaker were used which trips if more power is getting in than Rossi claims. Harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Andrew wrote: > ** > Probably; in any case, it would be an improvement. The majority of the > paper is taken up by deta

Re: [Vo]:How to use a clamp on ammeter

2013-05-25 Thread Harry Veeder
I didn't know. One of the suggested tricks involved two clamp on ammeters and three wires and a hidden circuit, but as you say three clamp on ammeters were used - one for each wire - so that particular trick would not work. harry On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I realiz

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > On May 22, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > Ed, > > I think the structure of the coulomb barrier is open to intrinsic > modification, but the variables governing this possibility cannot be > uncovered b

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