Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On 01/01/2013 05:59 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: No, I am suggesting that you count the facts written in the Bible that have found to be true. Then count the facts found to be false and then count

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
Tell me Chan or Ny Min, what degrees do you have? Jojo - Original Message - From: leaking pen To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age if at least half the facts

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Tell me Chan or Ny Min, what degrees do you have? leaky pen is not Chan. AAMoF he has been around a lot longer than you have.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
Who is leaky pen? Do you mean leaking pen? Who is leaking pen? Jojo - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On Wed, Jan 2

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:13 AM 1/2/2013, Craig wrote: You can have a book that contains many truths, along with many un-proven assertions. This is why books, per-se, cannot be used to ascertain truth. They can only add to available evidence. As a general principle, one of the known techniques of deception is to

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com Date: 2013/1/1 Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Now, we are getting into Philosophy. OK, I'll bite since I am not too busy yet. As to the issue

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Craig
On 01/01/2013 01:38 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: As to the issue of unverfiiable source. You need to define what you mean by unverifiable. How does one go about verifying a history book like the Bible? You can't... and that's the point. Craig

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
indigestion. It's sad but true. Jojo - Original Message - From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Works of fiction can blend reality and the craziest

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
You assume I was talking about Jesus and that is not rational. I mentioned an example of how a genere iction can be blend with real facts to make it look more real. For example, the whole creation business, paradise story, tower of babel, flood, are all fiction, but as story progresses it starts

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On 01/01/2013 01:38 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: As to the issue of unverfiiable source. You need to define what you mean by unverifiable. How does one go about

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Craig
On 01/01/2013 11:59 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: But this is exactly where you're wrong. You can in fact verify the Bible. It's very simple. find one, just one fact that has been categorically found to be false. This one erroneous fact alone would sink the entire credibility of the Bible. With

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:48 AM 1/1/2013, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK, who in this forum doubts the existence of Julius Ceasar, the Roman Emperor. No one in his right mind would. Me. Where does he exist? I don't only have a right brain, I have a left brain as well. Now, what does this have to do with Moon God, Dozens

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age You assume I was talking about Jesus and that is not rational. I mentioned an example of how a genere iction can be blend with real facts to make it look more real. For example, the whole creation business, paradise story, tower

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Peter Gluck
- From: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On 01/01/2013 11:59 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: But this is exactly where you're wrong. You can in fact verify the Bible

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
It must be sad when when it's impossible to even get anyone remotely serious about science that you are right. Everyone that listen to you are people that hold to religious fundamentalism to overcome emotional problems. 2013/1/1 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com ** Do you have evidence that all

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Craig
, it is considered a verified source by virtue of Preponderance of Evidence. Jojo - Original Message - From: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On 01/01

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
. Jojo - Original Message - From: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Jaro, are you suggesting that we meet here, in this forum, and vote

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2013-01-01 Thread Craig
On 01/01/2013 05:59 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: No, I am suggesting that you count the facts written in the Bible that have found to be true. Then count the facts found to be false and then count the facts that have not be found true or found false yet. If the number of facts that have found to be

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-31 Thread Craig
On 12/30/2012 11:09 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK, since you asked, do not call me a troll by answering this. Genesis chapter 6 is the source of this. This passage is the reason why God destroyed the Earth I think this is the source of the conflict: Epistemology dictates that all knowledge

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-31 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
the illuminati wants to desensitize people on. Jojo - Original Message - From: de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-31 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
the illuminati wants to desensitize people on. Jojo - Original Message - From: de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
Message - From: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On 12/30/2012 11:09 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK, since you asked, do not call me a troll by answering

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Thanks, Jojo, I appreciate your response to my query. It seems to me that you have faith that Genesis is literally accurate. How did you find your way to this faith

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Thanks. This is fascinating. What are the sources for this information? There is reason

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Thanks. This is fascinating. What are the sources for this information? There is reason to believe that fallen angels are trying

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-29 Thread Axil Axil
Faith is the most precious of God’s gifts. I envy the faith of the fundamentalist who can see beyond the human failings and cardinal sins of the men that seem to have come to universally affect the establishment, doctrine, practice, and liturgy of most established religions. As a human endeavor,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-29 Thread Axil Axil
Faith is the most precious of God’s gifts. I envy the faith of the fundamentalist who can see beyond the human failings and cardinal sins of the men that seem to have come to universally affect the establishment, doctrine, practice, and liturgy of most established religions. As a human endeavor,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Ethic of Reciprocity -- often called the Golden Rule in Christianity -- simply states that we are to treat other people as we would wish to be treated ourselves. Almost all organized religions have such an ethic. In

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 10:01 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: What are you suggesting lomax? That age is uncertain whether she was 9 or 10. Either way, what muhammed practiced was abhorrent and retrograde

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Peter Gluck
: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 10:01 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: What are you suggesting lomax? That age is uncertain whether she was 9 or 10. Either way, what muhammed practiced was abhorrent and retrograde. No, *Jojo* is abhorrent and retrograde. That's

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 10:01 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: What are you suggesting lomax? That age is uncertain whether she was 9 or 10. Either way, what muhammed practiced was abhorrent and retrograde. No, *Jojo* is abhorrent and retrograde. That's because he's now

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 02:43 AM 12/28/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK Lomax, let's agree to disagree. No, because Jojo lies

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
the fallacies of Lomax. I don't believe I have written anything particularly nasty with my real life example. - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On 12/27/2012 11:12 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK, since you asked. Don't say I am trolling. There is reason to believe that fallen

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 02:43 AM 12/28/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK Lomax, let's agree to disagree. No, because

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Mark Gibbs
believe I have written anything particularly nasty with my real life example. - Original Message - *From:* Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2012 8:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Dear

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
*Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2012 8:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Dear Jojo, Even in my weirdest dreams I have not imagined that one day I will read about the sexual reproductive life of Sus scrofa domestica on Vortex a site dedicated to new

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Mark Gibbs To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Pig breeding, Birthers, attacks on Islam, attacks on each other ... what is the matter with you people? Jojo throws out blatant

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: Mark Gibbs To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Pig breeding, Birthers, attacks on Islam, attacks on each other ... what is the matter with you people

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have set this thread to auto-delete, but I noticed this -- Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: It's one thing to have an off-topic discussion but quite another when a list is hijacked by little else besides off-topic posts. Really, the Vortex list-Mom needs to manage this list a whole lot

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Unfortunately I sense lots of bad mojo behind many of the posts in this exchange On Friday, December 28, 2012, Mark Gibbs wrote: Pig breeding, Birthers, attacks on Islam

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Mark Gibbs
29, 2012 2:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Unfortunately I sense lots of bad mojo behind many of the posts in this exchange On Friday, December 28, 2012, Mark Gibbs wrote: Pig breeding, Birthers, attacks on Islam, attacks on each other ... what

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Zell, Chris
How about some Klonopin or other treatments for OCD? That's what I'm seeing here ( yes, from my own experience). I can't imagine anything more pointless than arguments about religious dogma. Time would be better spent discovering/developing free energy - by which means the entire Middle East

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: Does anyone know how to get William Beaty to manage the conduct on this list? He is probably busy with the holiday season stuff. He'll get around to responding by and by. Frankly, I don't understand why people are worked up about this. Maybe it is just me

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Mark Gibbs
The only problem with filters is that they are a blunt tool so when someone you're filtering out is in a thread that you're interested in you can miss out on something useful. Sure, you might assume that there's really not much you'll miss by using filtering but it's not really an optimal

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-28 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Mark Gibbs To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Does anyone know how to get William Beaty to manage the conduct on this list? If you look at the recent messages on this list (http

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
now. Really. Jojo - Original Message - From: mailto:danieldi...@gmail.comDaniel Rocha To: mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.comJohn Milstone Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age He actually rebuted evertything. It's

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
To: mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.comJohn Milstone Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age I think It's more likely that the inhabitants of Eta Reticuli mesmerized me! 2012/12/27 Jojo Jaro mailto:jth...@hotmail.comjth...@hotmail.com Get a cranial

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
to get us riled up. Now he's off onto the Illuminati, [Z]eta Reticuli, and what else? - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
to moderate incessant off-topic posts. - Original Message - From: mailto:dlrober...@aol.comDavid Roberson To: mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.comvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Guys

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Hey! I'm the one living in the snowy mountains, and looking out the windows of my office at a fine winter storm, large dry flakes tumbling out of the sky, dancing with the breeze, playing hide-and-go-seek among the aspens smile On Dec 26, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Alright,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Jojo Jaro
Brrr.. I don't know how one could live in such cold climates. But to each his own. Jojo - Original Message - From: de Bivort Lawrence To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Jojo Jaro
abhorrent acts. Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 09:41 PM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Jojo: However, if you want speculation, I have some other speculations about who these people are. I am curious. Please elaborate. On Dec 26, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: The Illuminati satanic occultic pagan group

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:01 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: What are you suggesting lomax? That age is uncertain whether she was 9 or 10. Either way, what muhammed practiced was abhorrent and retrograde. No, *Jojo* is abhorrent and retrograde. That's because he's now. What Muhammad did wasn't abhorrent,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Jojo Jaro
: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 10:01 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: What are you suggesting lomax? That age is uncertain whether she was 9 or 10. Either way, what muhammed practiced was abhorrent and retrograde. No, *Jojo* is abhorrent and retrograde. That's

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
.. Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 11:15 AM 12/25/2012, David Roberson wrote

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Dec 25, 2012, at 21:41, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: However, there is a difference here. I'm the only Muslim on this list, as far as I know. Bingo. As members of modern, pluralistic societies, we shouldn't allow hate propaganda. We shouldn't allow it in relation to

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age--for the education of Jojo

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:34 PM 12/25/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Once again, Lomax diverts the issue and attempts to spin it away. The issue is not A'isha actual age, it is irrelevant what her actual age was. She could have been 5 years older and what muhammed did would still be an abhorrent sex perverted act.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
, December 26, 2012 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Conclusion, there is no such Executive Order. It appears that Jojo Jaro believes birther myths, long after they have been conclusively and with evidence debunked. If he fails to apologize, or point to an actual order doing what he claimed, he is, effectively, a liar. I've said similar things

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:54 AM 12/26/2012, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: illimiati? On Dec 26, 2012, at 1:07 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: And Lomax's is really naive to think that only Republicans are concerned with this issue. Over 60% of Americans feel Obama should come clean on this issue. But of course, the

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:30 PM 12/26/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Dec 25, 2012, at 21:41, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: However, there is a difference here. I'm the only Muslim on this list, as far as I know. Bingo. As members of modern, pluralistic societies, we shouldn't allow hate

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
:36 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age [...] If Bill changes the rules, I will follow. But in the meantime, people should follow his rules and not make it up as we go - as famously said by one chronic off-topic poster here. Jojo So, what are the rules? I

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
will be associated with Naudin. This is guilt by association. A well known debating technique to spin the issue. - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 01:12 AM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: My friend, just because

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 01:07 AM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Lomax is lying again. I'm not surprised. It is OK for him to lie as long as his goal are honorable and good for islam

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
He is reasoning and lying correctly. He gives links, provides reasonable arguments that should prove beyond any reasonable doubt the he is correct and you are not accepting his arguments, thus, being unreasonable beyond doubt. You clearly show your lack of arguments by making childish comments

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
sorry, arguing correctly, not lying correctly'. 2012/12/26 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com He is reasoning and lying correctly. He gives links, provides reasonable arguments that should prove beyond any reasonable doubt the he is correct and you are not accepting his arguments, thus,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
Message - From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age On Dec 25, 2012, at 21:41, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: However, there is a difference here

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age illimiati? On Dec 26, 2012, at 1:07 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: Lomax is lying again. I'm not surprised. It is OK for him to lie as long as his

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
The elders of zion? :D 2012/12/26 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com However, if you want speculation, I have some other speculations about who these people are. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
To: John Milstone Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age He is reasoning and lying correctly. He gives links, provides reasonable arguments that should prove beyond any reasonable doubt the he is correct and you

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
, December 27, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age sorry, arguing correctly, not lying correctly'. 2012/12/26 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com He is reasoning and lying correctly. He gives links, provides reasonable arguments that should

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
He actually rebuted evertything. It's just that you are crazy religious fundamentalist and cannot see beyond your prejudices. 2012/12/27 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com ** I provided sources from Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari. Two of the most respected and venerated muslim scholarly works

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
no responsibility to the people. Theodore Roosevelt Jojo - Original Message - From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age The elders of zion? :D 2012/12/26 Jojo Jaro jth

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
Alright, so you are living under a snowy barricade on a very high mountain. 2012/12/27 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com ** Ridicule all you want. There's nothing the Illuminati wants more than ignorant sheeple like you. Here is what Theodore Roosevelt has to say about a shadow government.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
the crap is getting into your head and Lomax is laughing at you for swallowing his spin and lies lock, stock and barrel. LOL. Jojo - Original Message - From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
I think It's more likely that the inhabitants of Eta Reticuli mesmerized me! 2012/12/27 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com ** Get a cranial enema my friend. You have been mesmerized by Lomax's excessive verbal diarrhea. All the crap is getting into your head and Lomax is laughing at you for

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Alright, so you are living under a snowy barricade on a very high mountain. 2012/12/27 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com Ridicule all you want. There's nothing the Illuminati wants more than ignorant sheeple like

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
Basically the Demon and his fallen companions. 2012/12/27 Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com ** My goodness, you have no idea how close to the truth you are with this joke. Yes, residents of Eta Reticuli. Except that they are not aliens from another world as in ET - biological aliens. They

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
, demons and all sorts of malevolent spirits. This my friend is who has you mesmerized. Jojo - Original Message - From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age I

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
is better *if justice is established.* Hmph. End speech. Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
. - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Guys, I would very much prefer it if this thread were to be terminated. It is apparent that there will never

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 25, 2012 4:04 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Yes, you are right of course, but It would even be better if all off-topic threads be terminated

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Dave, First you post an opinion that this particular conversation thread, a conversation which I would agree has been extensively researched, should be taken elsewhere. But then, in your next post you begin to participate in the conversation! Perhaps you have succumbed the dark side

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
posters to moderate incessant off-topic posts. - Original Message - From: mailto:dlrober...@aol.comDavid Roberson To: mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.comvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Guys, I

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Of course you have the right to be offended by the off topic threads that seem to show up often. I tend to be more concentrated on the LENR subject than many

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 04:03 AM 12/25/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: I am doing this is highlight a problem. If you call

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age--for the education of Jojo

2012-12-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age--for the education of Jojo At 01:48 PM 12/24/2012, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: A discussion of the issue of Ayesha and her age and condition at the time of marriage, and some related descriptions. Thanks. I had not discussed this issue for probably

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
It's obvious that the goal here is not agreement. It's also obvious that there will be no handshake (though I'd not refuse to agree, no matter what I say now; the Qur'an actually says, Do not let your oaths keep you from doing what's right.) Okay, the Qur'an does not actually say that. I

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
set out to do, and discovered exactly what I needed to know. Story of my life. From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Guys, I would very much prefer

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Sent: Tue, Dec 25, 2012 4:04 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Yes, you are right of course, but It would even be better if all off-topic threads be terminated and brought to Vortex-B. I am doing this is highlight a problem. If you call

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:27 PM 12/25/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Dave, First you post an opinion that this particular conversation thread, a conversation which I would agree has been extensively researched, should be taken elsewhere. But then, in your next post you begin to participate in

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
@eskimo.comvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Of course you have the right to be offended by the off topic threads that seem to show up often. I tend to be more concentrated on the LENR subject than many

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Again, brilliant. At 07:11 PM 12/25/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: [...] Lomax claims that my attempts to stop off-topic posts are coercive. I'm not sure which twilight zone Lomax live in, but of course they are coercive. Like Jojo can't bring himself to agree with me. I.e., he acknowledges that

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 11:15 AM 12/25/2012, David Roberson wrote: The recent intense concentration upon religious issues is not very useful for several reasons. It is apparent

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age Frequently. That is, this is how a troll justifies his behavior to himself, and attempts to so justify it to others

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-24 Thread Jojo Jaro
, December 24, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 10:30 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Lomax accuses me of cherry picking what I read, but he does that even better than I. Quite honestly, I have never met anyone with such an innate skill at spinnng

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age--for the education of Jojo

2012-12-24 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Greetings, everyone, It would seem that Jojo is finding comfort in repeating assertions on the historical marital mores of the Arabian peninsula that are flat-out incorrect. I am worried that other readers on this list may take repetition for reality, and so will summarize things here. There

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