[Vo]:Wiki2 - Wikipedia Republished

Maybe there is some hope... https://en.wiki2.org/ -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid vs. the Cowled Wikipedia Conservatory

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Steve High wrote: > You may turn to the talk page of the Wikipedia article on Rydberg Matter > to find Prof Holmlid locked in a struggle with various Keepers of the Light > who wish to see the Rydberg Matter article deleted. The good news is that >

[Vo]:Holmlid vs. the Cowled Wikipedia Conservatory

You may turn to the talk page of the Wikipedia article on Rydberg Matter to find Prof Holmlid locked in a struggle with various Keepers of the Light who wish to see the Rydberg Matter article deleted. The good news is that this struggle took place in 2010 and the Wikipedia entry is still up

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > Indeed. IMO, there is really only one definitive way to settle the matter. > Build a working prototype proving OU is occurring. Filing a law suit to go > after Grump and his cohorts accomplishes diddly squat . . . > Yes, this is foolish. It makes BLP l

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

>From Lennart, > ... However, to me it is really sad that BLP need to go to court > to resolve this type of issues. IMHO there is no upside for either > party regardless of the outcome. Indeed. IMO, there is really only one definitive way to settle the matter. Build a working prototype p

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

I agree with you Steven, not much will happen before it can be proven BLP has a product. However, to me it is really sad that BLP need to go to court to resolve this type of issues. IMHO there is no upside for either party regardless of the outcome. The only guys laughing all the way to the bank ar

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

AndyTheGrump? BLP has it in for Grump as well. They filed a law suit against him and others. http://www.williamslopatto.com/uploads/2/5/8/4/25843913/blacklight_power_inc._complaint.pdf Have no idea if BLP's complaint has managed to get any traction or not. I suspect it's gone nowhere.

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

I can't see most of the comments because I get a message that there is a coding error. Good luck getting Wiki to change their write up on cold fusion. I got banned from there for arguing with editor AndyTheGrump, who was obviously biased and wrong.

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

Steven, I read the old NYT article just now and yes --- it specifically uses the term "cold fusion" several times in 1956 . wow. and yes, they are talking about muon catalyzed fusion at low temperature - the kind with lots of 24 MeV gamma rays as evidence of the reaction. Even though it was ini

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

>From Blaze: > http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03E0D7103FE033A05753C3A9649D946792D6CF > I wonder if the 1956 article actually uses the phrase "Cold Fusion"? I'm not clear on that. I'm assuming it didn't. Interesting piece of research nevertheless. Perhaps someone w

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03E0D7103FE033A05753C3A9649D946792D6CF Cold Fusion of Hydrogen Atoms; A Fourth Method Pulling Together 1956!! On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > There's huge consensus about what works though. Why not establish that > a

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

There's huge consensus about what works though. Why not establish that as a basis and just say other approaches are open questions? Why does everyone go to such huge effort to say "pyroelectric fusion which works at low temperatures isn't cold fusion because it doesn't follow pons/fleischman exp

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: The idea that cold fusion doesn't involve hydrogen infused metal is just > end-of-times for these people. > It's really hard to sort out what is known from what is conjecture. There are some careful experimentalists who have made some very

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

n as completely doable. > > > > Perhaps it's time for you to update the Wikipedia article on CF in order > to reflect this important matter. > > > > See what happens... > > > > Regards, > > Steven Vincent Johnson > > OrionWorks.com > > zazzle.com/orionworks >

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

>From Blaze, ... > I think it will also help the community at large if they view cold > fusion as completely doable. Perhaps it's time for you to update the Wikipedia article on CF in order to reflect this important matter. See what happens... Regards,

[Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

I was reading the entry for cold fusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion While I agree with this statement: *Cold fusion is a hypothetical type of nuclear reaction that would occur at, or near, room temperature

[Vo]:FYI: MiHsC theory (Emdrive, dark matter anomaly, MOND...) deletion on Wikipedia

https://twitter.com/memcculloch/status/633231917157064704 Michael McCulloch just report that the Wikipedia page on his theory of Quantized inertia, MiHsC, is currently being deleted by anonymous mindquards if some can help or gather evidences.

[Vo]:On Wikipedia, politically controversial science topics vulnerable to information sabotage

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-wikipedia-politically-controversial-science-topics.html

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

ks are to your website. Huh. I never noticed. Perhaps no one has clicked on them lately. I wasn't looking for links back to Wikipedia. Clearly, the blacklist has

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I'll be darned. They have a page for Mizuno, and one for the ICCF > conferences too. The ICCF page was there years ago but someone deleted it. > It is back. > The ICCF page was put up for deletion a year or so ago. I voted against deletion wh

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

James Bowery wrote: Notice that the last 2 external links are to your website. > Huh. I never noticed. Perhaps no one has clicked on them lately. I wasn't looking for links back to Wikipedia. Clearly, the blacklist has been lifted. > >- Works by or about Richard

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

at/OrianiRAreproducib.pdf> - The Physical and Metallurgical Aspects of Hydrogen in Metal<http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/OrianiRAthephysica.pdf> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > Please clarify your statement, Jed. Why is

RE: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

Looks like Wikipedia are fairly rigid. See their entry for ee cummings Rusty From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2014 18:05 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors James Bowery mailto:jabow...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

Hi all To quote Bob: "The Times they are a changing." Kind Regards walker On 1 May 2014 18:21, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I'll be darned. They have a page for Mizuno, and one for the ICCF > conferences too. The ICCF page was there years ago but someone deleted it. > It is back. > > http://en.wik

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

I'll be darned. They have a page for Mizuno, and one for the ICCF conferences too. The ICCF page was there years ago but someone deleted it. It is back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadahiko_Mizuno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Cold_Fusion - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

James Bowery wrote: Please clarify your statement, Jed. Why is the deletion of a Wikipedia > page for an improperly capitalized last name for > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Oriani > Ah. There is another Wikipedia article. I did not know that. The one I pointed to was dele

Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

Please clarify your statement, Jed. Why is the deletion of a Wikipedia page for an improperly capitalized last name for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Oriani evidence that the vigilance of the Wikipedia editors is anything but properly applied removal of redundance and misspelling? Your

[Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

I found a download link for papers by Oriani, pointing to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_oriani Someone deleted it soon after it was made. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia founder calls alt-medicine practitioners "lunatic charlatans"

ed on Wikipravda... 2014-03-26 3:34 GMT+01:00 Axil Axil : > > http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/03/wikipedia-founder-calls-alt-medicine-practitioners-lunatic-charlatans/ > > Wikipedia founder calls alt-medicine practitioners "lunatic charlatans"Wales > to activists wh

[Vo]:Wikipedia founder calls alt-medicine practitioners "lunatic charlatans"

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/03/wikipedia-founder-calls-alt-medicine-practitioners-lunatic-charlatans/ Wikipedia founder calls alt-medicine practitioners "lunatic charlatans"Wales to activists who want new rules for Wikipedia: "No, you have to be kidding me." Ars co

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

Bob Cook wrote: > What would you expect to happen, if I put the note in talk section of > Wikipedia? Would I also be banned to comment on the topic? > First they erase your messages. If you keep posting messages, they ban you. http://wikipediocracy.com/2012/10/31/tis-the-season-to-b

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

Jed-- What would you expect to happen, if I put the note in talk section of Wikipedia? Would I also be banned to comment on the topic? Bob - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

I changed that line to : Attendees at some of the early conferences were described as offering no criticism to papers and presentations for fear of giving ammunition to external critics ... The refs about that are to Parks and Hzuigenda (sp) -- I have an early Hzuigenda edition (200 miles aw

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

I put that comment in the Wikipedia talk section. Someone named McSly deleted it within minutes, saying: "(Revert. User is topic banned)." Those people stay on their toes! Here is what I wrote: No criticism to papers and presentations?!?[edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/in

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

This is especially hilarious in view of the ICCF18 conference, where the second keynote speaker roundly insulted Iwamura and several other leading researchers, and at my luncheon presentation I described a major experiment as "tuning a piano with a sledgehammer." It turned out that Steve Jones, the

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

That is hilarious. Those people at Wikipedia live in a cloud cuckoo land of their own imagination. - Jed

[Vo]:Wikipedia cold fusion under edition

it seems some edition are happening on wold fusion wiki seems aggressive: ...conferences. The first International Conference on Cold Fusion (*ICCF*) was held in 1990, and has met every 12 to 18 months since. Attendees offered no criticism to papers and presentations for fear of...

[Vo]:Wikipedia French Cold fusion (fusion froide) is slightly edited...

I just noticed some slight change in wikipedia Fusion froide (french cold fusion)... link to ICCF, reformulating, piantelli... regularly changing ... I refuse to read the text & logs because I would react and be banned... but maybe something is happening... whoever want to check...

Re: [Vo]:OT-MIT Tecnology Review and Wikipedia Editors- Controversial Topics

funny to see what is religion today. 2014/1/8 Ron Kita > Greetings Vortex-L, > > I saw this on Wikipedia and controversial topics for 2013: > > http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522901/best-of-2013-edit-wars-reveal-the-10-most-controversial-topics-on-wikipedia/ > Respec

[Vo]:OT-MIT Tecnology Review and Wikipedia Editors- Controversial Topics

Greetings Vortex-L, I saw this on Wikipedia and controversial topics for 2013: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522901/best-of-2013-edit-wars-reveal-the-10-most-controversial-topics-on-wikipedia/ Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex

Re: [Vo]:Re: The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

Eric Walker wrote: > It's an unruly democracy/technocracy with an overgrowth of rules, > regulations, guidelines, technicalities and useless dogma. As an > organization of people collaborating on their own time on a summary of > human knowledge, they're gradually tackling problems on a scale th

Re: [Vo]:Re: The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

You can't edit an email once it's been sent out. ;) Wikipedia is the site that everyone loves to hate, and that almost all younger people, including those in the top tier of the journalism industry, love to consult as a starting point to find out about a new topic. It's an u

Re: [Vo]:Re: The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

One of my primary motives for suggesting Wikipedia as the corpus for theHutter Prize for Lossless Compression of Human Knowledge<http://prize.hutter1.net/> was that Kolmogorov compression will have to involve modeling bias -- perhaps even imputing specific authors as being responsible for sp

[Vo]:Re: The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

I meant it is NOT good at controversy. Sorry. (Is there a way to edit these messages?) - Jed

[Vo]:Re: The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

Wikipedia is okay for some subjects. But as an institution, Wikipedia it is good at handling controversy. Cold fusion is the longest-running and most controversial subject in the history of academic science. (I think by now we can say that.) So, the people in this field do not like Wikipedia

[Vo]:Re: The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

Interesting find Daniel. Most of the time you can only find critiques of Wikipedia bias, etc. on message boards, forums, and so on. Not generally in a researched article. I'll be interested to see if more such articles, more focused on other shortcomings of Wikipedia (politicking, censo

[Vo]:The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics

http://arxiv.org/abs/1310.8508 The distorted mirror of Wikipedia: a quantitative analysis of Wikipedia coverage of academics Anna Samoilenko<http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Samoilenko_A/0/1/0/all/0/1> , Taha Yasseri <http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Yasseri_T/0/1/0/all/0/1> (

[Vo]:Dispute between Nature and Britannica over Wikipedia

Okay, this is "inside baseball," meaning it is only of interest only to aficionados but . . . Years ago the journal Nature claimed that Wikipedia is nearly as reliable as Britannica. This article calls that finding into question: http://www.theregister.co.uk/

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

To get back on track: Yes the Jasons started out as a way for young men to breakthrough the bureaucratic types and yes the Jasons has now been occupied by the likes of Nate Lewis, who was listed as third author of the Jasons report: Reducing DoD Fossil-Fuel Dependence

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Obviously originality in physics is age related, but that is just a side effect when it comes to the gate keepers being tiresomely set in their ways. The reason for that is explained by Jerry Pournelle's iron law. Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Ooh! That was an anser to Jeds post. Not to Storms post.   On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 01:27:04 +0200, wrote: I think this is inverted in the LENR community. TG On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:57 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Being one of the old people, I would

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

I think this is inverted in the LENR community. TG On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:57 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Being one of the old people, I would like to share my impression of this issue. Most young people are ignorant, self-centered, and without much imagination.

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Edmund Storms wrote: Being one of the old people, I would like to share my impression of this > issue. > > Most young people are ignorant, self-centered, and without much > imagination. When they become old people, most remain ignorant, > self-centered, and without imagination. . . . > True. But

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

t pieces to the complex puzzle that we call LENR and we should >> encourage their inputs. One day soon the operation of these devices will >> be understood and we will all look back and see how the evidence was there >> the entire time. >> >> Dave >>

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

ry, oldies were conservatives in a stable society. >>>> Today oldies are keepers of dead times, of dead culture, of outdated >>>> consensus, washed by waves of fashions and new consensus. >>>> Oldies are rebels, aliens, foreigner of their time, like were the you

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

gt;> Oldies are rebels, aliens, foreigner of their time, like were the young >>> before. >>> Like old heros, they can decide to suicide their career to defend their >>> micro-ethics, not afraid of anything worse than the planned story... >>> retiremen

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

d > encourage their inputs. One day soon the operation of these devices will > be understood and we will all look back and see how the evidence was there > the entire time. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Alain Sepeda > To: Vortex List > Sent: Wed, Sep

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

were the young >>> before. >>> Like old heros, they can decide to suicide their career to defend their >>> micro-ethics, not afraid of anything worse than the planned story... >>> retirement and death. >>> >>> Maybe they are wrong, but sure you sh

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

iness. >> >> However I agree that out of science, oldies often are more defending >> their honeypot, surfing on fashion, rather than rebels or defender of old >> values. >> >> >> >> 2013/9/25 Jed Rothwell >> >>> James Bowery wrote: >>>

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

e is also opposition from many ordinary people and many stupid people at places like Wikipedia In all of these cases we're dealing with the incentives of social status more than authority structure. I agree. I would say it is ordinary primate behavior, similar to what you see in our cousins

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

operation of these devices will be understood and we will all look back and see how the evidence was there the entire time. Dave -Original Message- From: Alain Sepeda To: Vortex List Sent: Wed, Sep 25, 2013 11:16 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese I

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

of old values. > > > > 2013/9/25 Jed Rothwell > >> James Bowery wrote: >> >> There is also opposition from many ordinary people and many stupid >>>> people at places like Wikipedia >>>> >>>> >>> In all of these cases we're

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

iness. However I agree that out of science, oldies often are more defending their honeypot, surfing on fashion, rather than rebels or defender of old values. 2013/9/25 Jed Rothwell > James Bowery wrote: > > There is also opposition from many ordinary people and many stupid >

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

tes to approach with the data! Click through to see the lead authors Ooops On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:24 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Something else from the Jasons Wikipedia > article<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JASON_(advisory_group)> > : > > In 2002, DARPA decided

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Something else from the Jasons Wikipedia article<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JASON_(advisory_group)> : In 2002, DARPA decided to cut its ties with JASON. DARPA had not only been one of JASON's primary sponsors, it was also the channel through which JASON received funding from oth

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Ironically: *JASON* is an independent group of scientists which advises the United States government on matters of science and technology. *The group was first created as a way to get a younger generation of scientists*—that i

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

James Bowery wrote: There is also opposition from many ordinary people and many stupid people >> at places like Wikipedia >> >> > In all of these cases we're dealing with the incentives of social status > more than authority structure. > I agree. I would say

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

hey can't imagine > they might be mistaken, so they are not cautious. (That thought never > crosses their minds.) Not because they are invested in oil. > > There is also opposition from many ordinary people and many stupid people > at places like Wikipedia > > In all of these c

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

By the way trying to get biographical data on Rossi, I found that newenergytimes is cited many times against rossi... it seems Fringe site have a different meaning when it attack rossi... LENR-CANR is never cited, while there is no comparison about which is the most Fringe. so much lack of hones

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

; at worst vicious hate of those one feel as the evil, the foes accused of > fighting against The True Truth... Defending the consensus like one defend > a Mother Goddess, or simply Mum. > No conspiracy, but huge ego motivation. > > all of that is tiny. From what I see , it is a

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Dear Jed, On 23-9-2013 20:13, Jed Rothwell wrote: Furthermore, decreasing the cost of energy is likely to improve first world economies sooner than it improves third world countries or China, since we have more high tech, we have more ways to grow the economy, and we import more energy per cap

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

d in oil. There is also opposition from many ordinary people and many stupid people at places like Wikipedia, for the reasons explained by Francis Bacon: "The human understanding, when any preposition has been once laid down, (either from general admission and belief, or from the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Rob Dingemans wrote: Dear Jed, > > > On 23-9-2013 20:13, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> Furthermore, decreasing the cost of energy is likely to improve first >> world economies sooner than it improves third world countries or China, >> since we have more high tech, we have more ways to grow the economy

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Good... perhaps I can try my approach from the angle opened up by the problem of writing off capital investments in a "debt saturated" western economy: The bailout of the large financial institutions was an example of the kind of 'panic' that results when a massive write-off of capital investments

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

want to clear wikipedia, the holy territory, or science from pseudoscience. with planet consequence. 2013/9/23 Edmund Storms I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's benefit. Jed tends to be an optimist about the future while I and apparently you as wel

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Edmund Storms wrote: > For example, although the US is self-sufficient in energy, the cost is > controlled by the world market. The U.S. is not self-sufficient in energy. We consume 97 quads. We import 24 quads (mainly oil) and export 10 quads (oil and coal). See: http://www.eia.gov/totalene

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

serious affair for kids anyway. they bet their soul in those battle... like some want to clear wikipedia, the holy territory, or science from pseudoscience. with planet consequence. 2013/9/23 Edmund Storms > I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's > b

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's benefit. Jed tends to be an optimist about the future while I and apparently you as well are more of a realist. The world is in a mess. The West has created an unstable and unsustainable economic structure and many parts

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

I wrote: > These improvements have been drastic in some cases. LED lighting takes > only about one-fifth of the electricity of incandescent lights. > Illumination is a large fraction of total energy use. See: http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=99&t=3 QUOTE: "How much electricity is used

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Sorry, Ed, I should have clarified that I wasn't referring to you as having posited a conspiracy theory. My abstractions may have been a bit too for the present conversation... On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > James, I have no idea what you mean to say here. No conspirac

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Edmund Storms wrote: Of course LENR is denied by the West. The technology is a real and profound > danger to the West. It would undermine the economics of the energy > industries, on which the West is built, and it would give the Third world, > including China and India, great advantage. > That

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

James, I have no idea what you mean to say here. No conspiracy is involved or implied. The effect of LENR on the world's economy is obvious to anyone who understands economics. This is reality, not some proposed crazy idea. On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:46 AM, James Bowery wrote: The homeostatic

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

I agree, stupidly is certainly at the core of the problem. I think the atom bomb provides a useful example of the situation. Early during WWII, scientists understood that Germany was working on the atom bomb and if they were successful, the power structure of the world would change. Only

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

The homeostatic mechanisms of these systems embody a kind of intelligence that is all-too-frequently attributed to "conspiracy". This is complicated by the fact that genuine conspiratorial behavior is sometimes involved. It is further complicated by the vague definition of "conspiracy" as the wor

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

It is hard for me to imagine that it is an intelligent desire to protect economic rent for few against the western population... Having worked in finance, in Internet bubble, I would rather blame it on individual weakness (selfishness, ambition, greed, self delusion, submission to easy) sewed to

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Of course LENR is denied by the West. The technology is a real and profound danger to the West. It would undermine the economics of the energy industries, on which the West is built, and it would give the Third world, including China and India, great advantage. The people in charge in the W

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Years ago some Americans opposed to cold fusion tried to change this article, and they tried to ban LENR-CANR.org. A Japanese moderator asked them not to. - Jed

[Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

Did you notice that Cold fusion was treated much more in a balanced way in Chinese and japanese . https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B8%B8%E6%B8%A9%E6%A0%B8%E8%9E%8D%E5%90%88 translated: http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fja.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%E5%B8%B8%E6%B

Re: [Vo]: after, ISCMNS, ICCF article at Wikipedia up for deletion.

ISCMNS, it is ICCF which is tagged for deletion > > I've made an article... > > > http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?1638-ICCF-Wikipedia-article-called-for-deletion&p=5173#post5173 > > more details will be welcome... > > its starts to be ridiculous, and stinky.

[Vo]: after, ISCMNS, ICCF article at Wikipedia up for deletion.

I had a go at correcting the Wikipedia article on Rossi's E-Cat and got topic banned for my trouble. Look at the "talk page" about three quarters down (Parallel) When I started, half the intro was a very negative piece lifted from a blog as a reliable source. The existin

[Vo]: after, ISCMNS, ICCF article at Wikipedia up for deletion.

after ISCMNS, it is ICCF which is tagged for deletion I've made an article... http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?1638-ICCF-Wikipedia-article-called-for-deletion&p=5173#post5173 more details will be welcome... its starts to be ridiculous, and stinky. 2013/4/19 Alan Fletcher

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

Alan Fletcher wrote: That was the Italian wiki. > There is an article in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rossi_(entrepreneur) It is linked to an Italian one, which is gone, as you say. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

That was the Italian wiki. Someone X posted an untrue statement (per Rossi, and with no REF to back it up) Rossi deleted it. X put it back. X's account is cancelled Rossi is ??? blocked ? deleted ? The article itself seems to have been deleted.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

and make the corrections as we speak. > May bee. See the famous article featuring Randy from Boise: The Wikipedia FAQK http://www.wired.com/software/webservices/commentary/alttext/2006/04/70670 *Is it true that anyone can contribute?* Sure, Wikipedia is absolutely open to absolutely anyone c

RE: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806&cpage=10#comment-708958> May 31st, 2013 at 2:53 PM TO OUR READERS, REGARDING WIKIPEDIA: I MUST AGAIN GIVE THIS INFORMATION: WIKIPEDIA, AFTER THEY WROTE US ( BY TOM CONOVER) THAT THE PAGE HAD BEEN CORRECTED, TODAY AGAIN I SAW ON WIKIPEDIA

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

ossi you quoted? >> Thanks. >> >> [mg] >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: >> >>> May 31st, 2013 at 2:53 >>> PM<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806&cpage=10#comment-708958> >>>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

p://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806&cpage=10#comment-708958> >> >> TO OUR READERS, REGARDING WIKIPEDIA: >> I MUST AGAIN GIVE THIS INFORMATION: WIKIPEDIA, AFTER THEY WROTE US ( BY >> TOM CONOVER) THAT THE PAGE HAD BEEN CORRECTED, TODAY AGAIN I SAW ON >> W

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

anks. [mg] On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > May 31st, 2013 at 2:53 > PM<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806&cpage=10#comment-708958> > > TO OUR READERS, REGARDING WIKIPEDIA: > I MUST AGAIN GIVE THIS INFORMATION: WIKIPEDIA, AFTER THEY W

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

not so stupid but winning is not the sucess. the success will be to call mediatic buzz and make people aware that on some subject wikipedia is controlled by trolls. and it is not only on LENR, or even on well known controversies. On some subject linked to radiation, they are deeply biased, and

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is suing Wikipedia for libel

This is a stupid thing to do. It is a waste of Rossi's time and resources. He cannot win. However, Wikipedia deserves it! - Jed

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