Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-10 Thread Axil Axil
Che makes a cogent point. The year long test was far more that an attempt to extract money from IH, It was an attempt to verify a commercial product and the attempt failed at least in Rossi's estimation. This attempt at commercial applicability was why the test was so convoluted, inappropriate to

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-10 Thread Che
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > The whole discussion after the TRAIL is useless. Accusations between > vorts, discussions trying to determine how Rossi is a fraud or not - all of > counter productive. > Rossi has a small window to show that he has

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
The whole discussion after the TRAIL is useless. Accusations between vorts, discussions trying to determine how Rossi is a fraud or not - all of counter productive. Rossi has a small window to show that he has something. His ethics need no analysis. Rossi as a person is of little interest if the

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-09 Thread Che
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Che wrote: > > >> Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one email post! >> > > That is not what I would call a cogent response, but I appreciate the > brevity of it. You needn't say

RE: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-09 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
ink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Brian Ahern<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:44 AM To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned This note from Axil reminds me of my friends postings when he was in the man

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-09 Thread Che
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > The classic case is the Aztecs. They were taken out over a few short months in a military engagement from a vastly outnumbered force, not by disease. There are a lot of factors involved in any historical

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-09 Thread Brian Ahern
imo.com>> Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned I wrote: If I succeed at promoting cold fusion and it becomes generally used, I shall play an important role in changing the world more than Marxism and Capitalism combined. That sounds like hyperbo

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-09 Thread Kevin O'Malley
gunpowder. > > > -- > *From:* Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, July 7, 2017 7:04 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned > > One of the cool things about cold fusion in a 500

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-08 Thread Axil Axil
pitalism had. If the >> human race survives for millions of years -- as I hope it will -- >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> >> To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 6:37 pm >&

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-08 Thread Che
t will -- > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 6:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned > > I wrote: > > > If I succeed a

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-08 Thread Che
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > One of the cool things about cold fusion in a 500 year outlook is that it > makes for a very ineffective weapon. Even fire is a more effective weapon. > Oooh... I don't know about that... You know why potatoes

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
Wasn't it small pox and other viral infections? And yes, it was a non intended conquering, the same happened in pacific islands, or any place that did not have contacts with Europe since the ice age. Though, it was only a matter of time, just like anywhere else in the world. If you go to places

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-08 Thread Frank Znidarsic
it will have a larger impact than capitalism had. If the human race survives for millions of years -- as I hope it will -- -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in

Fw: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-08 Thread Brian Ahern
The Spanish had cholera. It was 100 times as effective as gunpowder. From: Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 7:04 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned One of the cool things about cold fusion in

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
You are trolling. Or you lack objectivity. If you cannot explain something that simple to someone very educated, you are pretty worthless to explain anything to a working person. 2017-07-07 19:59 GMT-03:00 Che : > > Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Che wrote: > Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one email post! > That is not what I would call a cogent response, but I appreciate the brevity of it. You needn't say more, since your responses are canned and never deviate from party doctrine. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Che
Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one email post! Great work, Jed. On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> If I succeed at promoting cold fusion and it becomes generally used, I >> shall play an important role in changing the

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Kevin O'Malley
One of the cool things about cold fusion in a 500 year outlook is that it makes for a very ineffective weapon. Even fire is a more effective weapon. You know why potatoes became a crop of choice in Europe? Because when a king's army sieged your castle and burned your crops, there were still

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > If I succeed at promoting cold fusion and it becomes generally used, I > shall play an important role in changing the world more than Marxism and > Capitalism combined. > That sounds like hyperbole, but I mean it. I think that Marxism and capitalism are both on their way out. As we

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I posted the first ngram search incorrectly. Ngram is case sensitive unless you check the box on the right. Plus, I think I should not have put "cold fusion" in quotes. I am not sure how the quote sign works in ngram. Here is a new search comparing LENR (all caps) to "cold fusion" (no quotes):

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: There was a software package called "cold fusion" which can obscure the > results as well as the interest. > It turns out this is not an issue with ngram. "ColdFusion" the programming language is one word with peculiar capitalization, and ngram is

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
First time I was called anti communist. LOL. I've seen revisionist, tankie and all the crap. 2017-07-07 7:20 GMT-03:00 Che : > > > > People here do not want to see me get into a tiresome, useless argument > with a know-nothing anti-communist puhtz like you. > Simple.

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-07 Thread Che
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > You don't know how to answer that, because that is the plain truth. > > 2017-07-06 23:49 GMT-03:00 Che : > >> >> Blah, blah, blah... not worth replying to. >> WTF am I ignoring. You're just

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
You don't know how to answer that, because that is the plain truth. 2017-07-06 23:49 GMT-03:00 Che : > > Blah, blah, blah... not worth replying to. > WTF am I ignoring. You're just trying to score some dumb brownie points. > > >

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I am sorry to report that there has been a considerable decline in interest in cold fusion. Yea! I can see this with my books and apps. "Energy, Cold Fusion, and Antigravity" was my best seller. Now the best seller is "Electronics Project". Sorry to say its time to move on and only

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Che
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > There was a software package called "cold fusion" which can obscure the > results as well as the interest. LENR needs to repackage their name. > Maybe something like Anomalous Heating Event. > LENR: 'Legitimate

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Che
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Che Trotsky, you are ignoring material conditions, we do not know how Cold > Fusion works, and historical conditions, that is, we are in capitalism and > cold fusion is not trusted. Even in whatever form of socialism

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Kevin O'Malley
There was a software package called "cold fusion" which can obscure the results as well as the interest. LENR needs to repackage their name. Maybe something like Anomalous Heating Event.

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
"we do not know how Cold Fusion works, and historical conditions, that is, we are in capitalism and cold fusion is not trusted" Cold fusion is a misnomer. The LENR reaction is the catalyzed decay of the nucleon produced by intense nanomagnetism similar in nature to the instantan based Fractional

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
Che Trotsky, you are ignoring material conditions, we do not know how Cold Fusion works, and historical conditions, that is, we are in capitalism and cold fusion is not trusted. Even in whatever form of socialism you subscribe, you'd have to either convince many other workers to see the importance

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Che
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Che wrote: > > >> Jesus Christ, you bourgeois types... the POINT is to CHANGE the World: a >> concept you people ARE most absolutely unfamiliar with. >> > > I have probably done more to

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Che wrote: > Jesus Christ, you bourgeois types... the POINT is to CHANGE the World: a > concept you people ARE most absolutely unfamiliar with. > I have probably done more to change the world with computers than you have. Not always in good ways, but I had an

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Che
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Che wrote: > > Scientific research should not be a popularity contest, right? >> > > Perhaps it should not be, but alas, it is. We have to deal with the real > world as it is, not as we

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Che wrote: Scientific research should not be a popularity contest, right? > Perhaps it should not be, but alas, it is. We have to deal with the real world as it is, not as we might wish it to be. That concept seems somewhat alien to you. *Especially* considering

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Che
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I am sorry to report that there has been a considerable decline in > interest in cold fusion. The number of Google alerts about the subject is > far lower than it used to be. The number of people reading papers at >

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: > It's cold fusion for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_ColdFusion . > I think the Ngram search will not find "ColdFusion," because it is one word. My Google Alerts parameter avoids it: cold fusion -coldfusion -"web hosting"

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
It's cold fusion for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_ColdFusion .

[Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

2017-07-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am sorry to report that there has been a considerable decline in interest in cold fusion. The number of Google alerts about the subject is far lower than it used to be. The number of people reading papers at LENR-CANR.org is down. The numbers usually goes down in summer when students take a