Mar 2013 20:25:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
theories
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
I mean to say that Dennis did NOT set the stage properly, or follow up properly.
Dennis or whoever it was who arranged that demo
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
theories
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:08:28 -0600
Again you make some interesting assertions that do not seem
to be valid. Recall that in ICCF 10
Letts and I gave back to back presentations and papers
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Granted it was only about a watt in Boston and ¼ W in Monte Carlo, but
still demos and papers were give at both.
Higher power would be helpful, but again, these demonstration failed to
have impact mainly because they were not documents, published or
I agree with you, Jed. The most effective way to understand LENR is by
seeing the patterns it creates. You see the patterns produced by
interest in the subject. These pattens become obvious only when a
large data set is viewed. As a result, you see clearly what interests
the most people,
Jed- Let me be blunt. I am sitting here with the data from 2.8 million visits
to LENR-CANR. I have it, and you don't. That makes me the expert. Frankly, I
think it is a little presumptuous for you and other researchers to tell me what
the audience for cold fusion papers does or does not want
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Jed- Let me be blunt. I am sitting here with the data from 2.8 million
visits to LENR-CANR. I have it, and you don't. That makes me the expert.
Frankly, I think it is a little presumptuous for you and other researchers
to tell me what the audience for
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I did publish it! I just now gave the wrong link, but as I noted before I
published it here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJthefuturem.pdf yes,
having the correct link helps a little.
You owe it yourself to read the paper I already
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I admit I just skimmed it, but it seems only to address WHO is accessing
the materials, not which papers/data/presentations are being accessed.
Well, who and how many. I have published other descriptions of which kinds
of papers are accessed.
How
I wrote:
The videos on YouTube do have individual tallies, showing how many times
they have been downloaded, and likes and dislikes.
Steve Krivit has uploaded a bunch of videos, including some first-rate
ones. See:
http://www.youtube.com/user/StevenKrivit?feature=watch
You can tell which
Here is a lecture by Iwamura which is popular, and well worth seeing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VefCEaLAkRwlist=UU28a-FqpaYi23i51vPRhJqg
As I said, I cannot easily measure if these are having an effect at
LENR-CANR.org. Iwamura is popular, but he would be anyway. That's quality
work.
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I know you hate my car idea but just FYI the Iwamura video you way is
popular has been viewed around 3400 times, my You tube car video has been
viewed 3700 in just 3 weeks. So if just downloading is the measure, my
approach is popular. My guess is
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I don’t think that any of my work is secret and I have helped many others
in the field.
Your work is not secret but it is obscure. It deserves to be presented more
fully, in more detail, in professionally written papers.
You have helped many others. That
” frequency current around the ring will be induced like a
secondary of a transformer (1/f source to primary).
D2Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:33:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
theories
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
DJ Cravens djcrav
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM, DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Right now I am struggling to learn how to use “lost wax” casting of Pd
+23%Ag alloys for making a toroid.
See [1], where they're using geometry involving a silver core and a thin
palladium shell to split water into
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Congratulations on getting them to consider a demo when I could not
solicit a response.
Actually, they have not responded to me yet, either, but informally
in conversation they said they would. You need to give them another chance,
for the sake of the
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:43:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
theories
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Congratulations
on getting them to consider a demo when I could not solicit
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
It was you that complained about my lack of writing ability.
That's easily fixed. I have written entire papers for people who speak
English as a second language.
Also, it was you that in times past (a few years back) said that demos
where not
I wrote:
I have said that to many other cold fusion researchers. They often kvetch
and moan about how unfair the world is and how oppressed they are. Then,
when you suggest they submit an abstract or write a paper, it's: Oh no, I
don't have time for that. People should believe me. . . .
I mean to say that Dennis did NOT set the stage properly, or follow up
properly.
Dennis or whoever it was who arranged that demo at Monte Carlo. No idea who.
It was a big fat wasted opportunity. Why go to all that trouble if you are
not going to publish a permanent record of the event? A handful
Jed, Ed,
As the both of you may know, Abd Lomax, being the obsessive poster that he
can be at times, has recently posted a great deal of additional analysis on
Mr. Krivit, New Energy Times, W-L out on NewVortex. His comments are a
matter of public record out in Yahoo NewVortex (aka: Vortex-l
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I also am afraid that the time for individual work in this area is about
over. I have done most of the experiments that are within my equipment and
budget range. The key is in the materials and I just don't have the
resources for that game down at
say in
chess: at the end of the game
both the pawn and the king go into the same box.
D2
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:40:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
theories
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
DJ Cravens djcrav
Jed, funding is not available from conventional sources because these
sources do not believe the effect is real. Consequently, the money
must come from private individuals. Such people have funded work of
various people, including myself, for a long time, but now even their
patience has
Thanks for pointing out this exchange, Steven. I have been following
the discussion and have been commenting privately to Krivit.
The level of confusion in this field, as revealed by the discussions I
read and what Krivit says, is too great for conventional science to
take any interest.
It is a sad story.
This is why I feel that the project of Defkalion to fund research itself to
make theoretical progress is the only kind of solution.
This is a chicken and egg problem, because industrialist need research
results to make money, and researcher need money to have results...
The
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
interesting assumption, notice Pam and Ed are not funded at levels needed
to work at the nano range either – at least to my knowledge. The same
with George.
Yes but they have made every effort to get funding, so they are not to
blame. Furthermore,
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Jed, funding is not available from conventional sources because these
sources do not believe the effect is real. Consequently, the money must
come from private individuals. Such people have funded work of various
people, including myself, for a long
I wrote:
I have given the cold fusion researchers an audience of 10,000 readers a
week, at LENR-CANR.org. I did this at great expense and effort. This
audience includes people at many leading universities and corporations . . .
People here may have wondered why I make such a big deal about
talks, conducting lab visits,….. But it has
changed nothing.
My hypothesis is that if you want different outcomes, you
must do something different. I am in the process of testing that hypothesis.
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:05:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory
Steve Krivit, of all people, wrote:
You, however, have been careful to keep the nastiest of your comments -
the ones I heard from Mike Carrell and Bev Barnhart - out of the public
spotlight. But you have sent a few of such comments to me directly and I
could not and will not publish them,
I don't remember be cranky with Krivit. I was disgusted and
dumbfounded at his approach, which I explained in the same way I
explain similar feelings here on Vortex. The exaggeration he describes
is totally in Krivit's mind. I'm also at a loss as to how an
expression of a personal opinion
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I don't remember be cranky with Krivit.
It doesn't take much to set him off. He thinks the worst of me, and many
others.
I was disgusted and dumbfounded at his approach, which I explained in the
same way I explain similar feelings here on Vortex.
, I only hope we
all make our journey safely. (my own quote) D2
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:55:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
theories
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I don't
In his latest, he jumps Jean-Paul Biberian:
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/03/22/lenr-researcher-biberian-has-limited-answers-for-cold-fusion/
, you must just follow the star you can see
and let others follow the
one they see. When the dawn comes, I only hope we all make our
journey safely. (my own quote)
D2
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:55:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should
attack other theories
with big money do the big
things. Good luck on your house work. I remember seeing you as you were
building it. Tell Carol hi. D2 CC: stor...@ix.netcom.com
From: stor...@ix.netcom.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: only a perfect LENR theory should attack other
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