Re: IllegalStateException: "...EOEditingContext has already been disposed"

2016-09-29 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Paul Hoadley mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote: On 29 Sep 2016, at 7:31 PM, Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote: Backtracking? I can't seem to reproduce it in development using backtracking, but _who knows_ what the users are d

Re: IllegalStateException: "...EOEditingContext has already been disposed"

2016-09-29 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Paul Hoadley mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote: Hi Chuck, On 29 Sep 2016, at 6:27 PM, Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote: Backtracking? I can't seem to reproduce it in development using backtracking, but _who knows_ what the u

Re: IllegalStateException: "...EOEditingContext has already been disposed"

2016-09-29 Thread Chuck Hill
Backtracking? When do you dispose of the EC? Chuck Hill Gevity Consulting Inc. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Paul Hoadley mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote: Hello, I'm seeing very occasional stack traces from the wild that star

Re: EOF inserts already existing M:N relationships/empty snapshot?!?

2016-09-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Ooh. I had forgotten about that. Does that qualify as a Heisenbug? From: "o...@ocs.cz" Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 1:42 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com WebObjects" Subject: Re: EOF inserts already existing M:N relationships/empty sna

Re: EOF inserts already existing M:N relationships/empty snapshot?!?

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
I bet Alice was a developer too. Have you overridden any of the EOF methods, or the generated methods in User or DataBlock and changed the normal behavior? Or forgotten to call super? From: OC Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 6:33 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.appl

Re: EOF inserts already existing M:N relationships/empty snapshot?!?

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
Off the top of my head, check they types of the keys to, as defined in the EOModel, to the M:N table and in the M:N table. Are all consistently Integer or Long in Java? Chuck From: OC Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 6:33 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com WebOb

Re: Cannot obtain globalId for an object which...

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
cardo Parada Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:19 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" Subject: Re: Cannot obtain globalId for an object which... Hi Chuck, I followed the steps of the code and I noticed that the object containing the to-many relationship in qu

Re: EOF inserts already existing M:N relationships/empty snapshot?!?

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
But when is it not set? After fetching into the EC? After faulting it in? Is there there at first and then goes away? There is a method in Wonder that can clear a to-many relationship, but that should make it a fault not an empty array. You really DO find all of the best bugs! :-) Chuck

Re: Cannot obtain globalId for an object which...

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
A full stack track would help. It sounds like your code is making a relationship between objects in different editing contexts. Did someone forget to add a “localInstance”? From: on behalf of Ricardo Parada Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:18 PM To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com"

Re: EOF inserts already existing M:N relationships/empty snapshot?!?

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
This is why they are getting inserted again: Well, logging out "currentUser.editingContext().committedSnapshotForObject(currentUser)['userDataBlock']" before saveChanges, I get an empty array. I must admit I don't know whether there should be the relationship objects in this snapshot, but anyway

Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax

2016-09-14 Thread Chuck Hill
I barely remember the name FastCGI. That said, not much has changed in this area in a long, long time. From: Michael Kondratov Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 1:41 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax Chuck, Thank you! I will look

Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax

2016-09-14 Thread Chuck Hill
, September 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax All kind of strange things start to happen once we hit 100-200 requests per second loads. If an instance gets overloaded, WOTaskD becomes unresponsive and Apache stalls after as

Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax

2016-09-14 Thread Chuck Hill
, 2016 at 6:08 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax I have noticed that the number of worker threads immediately goes us when we set connection pool to 1. If it is set to zero, worker threads stop at about 70, but we see 50% system time CPU

Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax

2016-09-13 Thread Chuck Hill
There is no easy answer. Ignoring Keep-Alive, you need to manage this setting, the Listen Queue Size, and number of instances to ensure that your app instances don’t build up a backlog of requests that will take longer to process than your users are willing to wait. Otherwise, your instances a

Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
OK, got it! http://classicprogrammerpaintings.com/search/slack From: David LeBer Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM To: Chuck Hill , "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" , Mark Wardle Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel Chuck, Slack is ICQ written in Javascript... f

Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
Now THERE is a technology that I am familiar with! From: Mark Wardle Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:37 PM To: Chuck Hill , "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel I'll add some information on my gopher site On Tue, 6 Sep 2016

Re: mod_proxy error

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:26 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: Re: mod_proxy error Chuck, I have set it to a fairly high number: ulimit -n shows 524288 Michael Kondratov Aspire Auctions, Inc. 216-231-5515 On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Chuck Hill mailto:ch

Re: mod_proxy

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
Which version of WO are you using? https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/Wonder6/javadoc/com/webobjects/appserver/WOCookie.html From: on behalf of Michael Kondratov Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM To: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: mod_proxy Hello, I am trying to set u

Re: mod_proxy error

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
“Too many open files” Try increasing the limits. Chuck From: on behalf of Michael Kondratov Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:21 PM To: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: mod_proxy error Also geting the following errors in proxy error log: Tue Sep 06 17:19:08.785587 2016] [pro

Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
Might as well include me. Now I have to figure out what Slack is. :-P The Internet is No Place for Old Men! From: on behalf of Markus Ruggiero Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel also interested, plea

Re: EO awake ??

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
Did you do the check for null after the call to super? An owned, mandatory, to-one will get created automatically by EOF. I am pretty sure that is what is happening and then you are creating and assigning a second one. Chuck From: on behalf of Theodore Petrosky Date: Tuesday, September 6,

Re: Instance not found on dev machine

2016-09-02 Thread Chuck Hill
Double check what is on that page. Ensure that WOHost=localhost is set for both the app and wotaskd. From: on behalf of Jeff Schmitz Date: Friday, September 2, 2016 at 6:21 PM To: WebObjects Development Subject: Instance not found on dev machine Hey All, I followed the directions here:

Re: Large file uploads

2016-08-27 Thread Chuck Hill
Why not just ask Helmut? From: Altera WO Team Date: Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 4:22 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: Wolfgang Hartmann , "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" , Helmut Tschemernjak Subject: Re: Large file uploads Nice! does anybody have the patched classes? Thanks, Matteo

Re: Large file uploads

2016-08-26 Thread Chuck Hill
This was fixed some time ago by Helmut Tschemernjak hel...@helios.de. Here is his message: From: on behalf of Helmut Tschemernjak Organization: HELIOS Software GmbH Date: Sunday, July 29, 2012 at 4:04 AM To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" Subject: Fixed the WO 5.4.

Re: derived attribute to sum a relationship?

2016-08-22 Thread Chuck Hill
Derived attributes never update until you do a refreshing fetch. So while you can sort of do this, derived attributes will never meet your needs here. I can’t think of a way to do that that isn’t a lot of code and prone to inconsistencies with the relationship data. Chuck From: on behalf of

Re: Weird classloading issues - only in deployment

2016-08-19 Thread Chuck Hill
This is not even a contender for the vaguest question ever! I can barely see how this is possible at all, let alone if you have made no changes. It sounds like a classloading issue, but what or why has me baffled. Was there a JVM update or other change in production? Perhaps an unintentional

Re: Displagroup modifications

2016-08-10 Thread Chuck Hill
I will suggest adding methods to the API to enable/disable this. Chuck From: on behalf of Michael Kondratov Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 8:11 AM To: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Subject: Displagroup modifications We’ve modified ERXDisplayGroup to listen for new objects and automat

Re: EODatabaseContext.initializeObject(): No snapshot for gid

2016-08-04 Thread Chuck Hill
I agree with Maik. Chuck From: on behalf of Musall Maik Date: Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 1:46 AM To: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: EODatabaseContext.initializeObject(): No snapshot for gid Hi Paul, usually when something like that happened, I ended up violating one of the EOF commandments [

Re: Looking for strategy

2016-07-22 Thread Chuck Hill
EOEditingContext.Delegate.editingContextShouldFetchObjects is what I was going to suggest too. Get the session to stash the region details in a thread local in awake and remove in sleep. I think it was OC that tried this before, but he wanted it to also affect firing a to-many relationship fau

Re: Summary of the State of the Community

2016-07-14 Thread Chuck Hill
LOL From: Lachlan Deck Date: Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 9:27 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" Subject: Re: Summary of the State of the Community Fixed it for ya :-) On 14 Jul 2016, at 3:35 AM, Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote: ... Which

Re: jrebel

2016-07-14 Thread Chuck Hill
Hmmm, not sure if you meant beer OR meal, or meal OF beer. :-P From: on behalf of Samuel Pelletier Date: Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 2:23 PM To: Aaron Rosenzweig Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: jrebel Aaron and all, I wrote the Hotswap plugin for the the free Jrebel alternative. Here is t

Re: Summary of the State of the Community

2016-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
Here is my brief take on what defines the community. Many of us got started with WO before anyone came along and told us that we should not want a coherent, consistent, end-to-end stack that mostly “just worked”. So we naively started using it and found that it was a joy to work like this and

Re: Instance won't shutdown with ERJGroupsSynchronizer

2016-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
That does not seem to be a sensible reason/place to throw an exception. Chuck From: on behalf of Paul Hoadley Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 12:52 AM To: Ted Archibald Cc: WebObjects Apple Dev Subject: Re: Instance won't shutdown with ERJGroupsSynchronizer Hi Ted, Excavating this from

Re: webobjects with maven

2016-07-12 Thread Chuck Hill
That means it is picking up the wrong Main class, a class in a different package. What is your default request handler? You can either give it a fully qualified name in DirectAction.defaultAction() or (from memory) pageWithName() in Application if the passed name is null. “Are there people ou

Re: Ajax request, ERXRedirect and ERXThreadStorage

2016-07-12 Thread Chuck Hill
As long as you have more than one worker thread, there is no guarantee which will process which request. Do you have a session you can stash it in? Chuck From: on behalf of Lon Varscsak Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 8:58 AM To: Paul Hoadley Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Ajax request, E

Re: Intercepting a failed action method invocation

2016-07-11 Thread Chuck Hill
Meh! Yes! It has an “optimization” if the form was submitted.Usually the request handler is what translates null into the page. Chuck From: Paul Hoadley Date: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Intercepting a failed action method

Re: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

2016-07-11 Thread Chuck Hill
There must be more to that stack trace, a deeper caused by. As a guess, it is having trouble reading the component template (reading what is in the .wo directory). From: on behalf of Kwasi O-Ahoofe Date: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 11:58 AM To: WebObjects-Dev Subject: java.lang.reflect.Invoc

Re: Intercepting a failed action method invocation

2016-07-11 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Paul, Just override invokeAction() and if the result is null then no action matched the URL. That is your queue to set a conditional boolean to cause the informational message to be shown. Chuck From: on behalf of Paul Hoadley Date: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 12:40 AM To: WebObjects-Dev

Re: qualified to-many relationships?

2016-07-11 Thread Chuck Hill
: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List Subject: Re: qualified to-many relationships? P.S. Well I _am_ sort of at the slow side today. I guess this might bring nasty problems with EOs *not* synchronized, right? The net effect would be essentially the same as if each session run in its own

Re: Horizontal inheritance to splitting big database tables to speed up?

2016-07-11 Thread Chuck Hill
No, not that I can think of. EOF was written to do it after the fetch based on what was fetched. From: OC Date: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 4:10 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: Mark Morris , WebObjects-Dev Mailing List Subject: Re: Horizontal inheritance to splitting big database tables to speed up

Re: fspec qualifier documentation?

2016-07-11 Thread Chuck Hill
I am pretty sure that all of the EO* classes use those archivers. Or should. :-) You could write some code to listen for the ModelAdded notification, unarchive them from some other file and augment your model then. From: OC Date: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 4:08 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc

Re: fspec qualifier documentation?

2016-07-10 Thread Chuck Hill
Pretty sure what you looking for is EOKeyValueUnarchiver and EOKeyValueArchiver From: on behalf of OC Date: Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 5:52 PM To: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List Subject: fspec qualifier documentation? Hi there, is there somewhere a documentation of the structure which defines “qu

Re: Horizontal inheritance to splitting big database tables to speed up?

2016-07-10 Thread Chuck Hill
IIRC those methods are for determining the correct entity/class to instantiate based on the row values fetched. AKA These are not the droids you are looking for. Chuck From: on behalf of OC Date: Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 5:20 PM To: Mark Morris Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List Subject: Re

Re: qualified to-many relationships?

2016-07-10 Thread Chuck Hill
data that is appropriate to it. Chuck From: OC Date: Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 5:23 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List Subject: Re: qualified to-many relationships? Chuck, On 9. 7. 2016, at 11:54, OC mailto:o...@ocs.cz>> wrote: Meantime I have realised one thin

Re: qualified to-many relationships?

2016-07-10 Thread Chuck Hill
es not, just like the DatabaseContextDelegate. Thanks again, OC Am 09.07.2016 um 11:54 schrieb OC mailto:o...@ocs.cz>>: Chuck, On 9. 7. 2016, at 6:37, Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote: The answer depends on your definition of “decent”. There is nothing in EOF, and nothing that

Re: qualified to-many relationships?

2016-07-10 Thread Chuck Hill
benefit. For the very minor cost of a few extra objects, you can have a fully customized EOF environment for each user. Chuck From: OC Date: Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 2:54 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List Subject: Re: qualified to-many relationships? Chuck, On 9. 7. 2016, at 6

Re: qualified to-many relationships?

2016-07-08 Thread Chuck Hill
The answer depends on your definition of “decent”. There is nothing in EOF, and nothing that I am aware of in Wonder that will do this. To achieve this you need to: 1. Write the access method like yo have below, but cache the result for performance. 2. Write the mutator methods

Re: Splitting big database tables to speed up?

2016-07-08 Thread Chuck Hill
Modifying the model on the fly in a multi-threaded app is a bit dicey. It is not designed for that. If you had an EOF stack per user, you could clone the model into a new, user specific EOModelGroup and modify it there. Chuck From: on behalf of "Morris, Mark" Date: Friday, July 8, 2016 at

Re: video missing

2016-06-29 Thread Chuck Hill
wanted to go to bed. We left at midnight. And yes, > I was one of the people who wanted to go to bed. > > Chuck > > > From: David LeBer > Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:08 PM > To: Chuck Hill , Musall Maik , > WebObjects-Dev > Subject: Re: video mis

Re: video missing

2016-06-29 Thread Chuck Hill
Tell me about it! We went for beers one night. After two, people started yawning and saying they wanted to go to bed. We left at midnight. And yes, I was one of the people who wanted to go to bed. Chuck From: David LeBer Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:08 PM To: Chuck Hill , Musall

Re: video missing

2016-06-29 Thread Chuck Hill
Wow, was it really seven years ago that I did that? From: on behalf of Musall Maik Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:01 PM To: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: video missing Hi Ted, the correct URL is http://wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/west09/WOWODC09W-Validation.mov, so 09W and W09 are

Re: WOWODC 2016 Schedule

2016-06-23 Thread Chuck Hill
It is a brand new me! Chuck Hill Gevity Consulting Inc. Sent from my mobile device. On Jun 23, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Pascal Robert mailto:prob...@macti.ca>> wrote: Just one beer? :-P De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com<mailto:w

Re: WOWODC 2016 Schedule

2016-06-23 Thread Chuck Hill
Thanks Klaus! We will miss you. I wil have a beer for you. Chuck From: on behalf of Klaus Berkling Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 8:30 AM To: WebObjects Development Subject: WOWODC 2016 Schedule Here is the schedule for your calendar: https://apps.berkling.us/wowodc16/WOWODC16.ics Le

Re: Design Ideas

2016-06-23 Thread Chuck Hill
I find it interesting how many of us use WO in a health care related setting. We did a show of hands at WOWODC a few years ago and it was about 1/3. Chuck On 2016-06-23, 6:05 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Stavros Panidis" wrote: Hi Calven, Def

Re: Design Ideas?

2016-06-22 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Calven, Our GVC.SiteMaker application had some features that you might find useful. https://sourceforge.net/projects/gvcsitemaker/ It has a feature “Virtual Tables” that let’s user create relational tables and user defined UIs. It is fully KVC compatible and reasonably fast. It does come

Re: Going Server-side with Swift Open Source

2016-06-18 Thread Chuck Hill
I’ve used it a bit. I was doing some async work and between that and Kotlin it took some effort to get used to. I liked the language, It is used a lot with Android. From: Ricardo Parada Date: Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 9:07 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: Yuri Kondratov , WebObjects-Dev Subject

Re: Going Server-side with Swift Open Source

2016-06-16 Thread Chuck Hill
Not to mention the enormous selection of Java libraries. If you really don’t like Java, try Kotlin (https://kotlinlang.org) which does run on the JVM and is very similar to Swift. Chuck From: on behalf of Ricardo Parada Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM To: Yuri Kondratov Cc: WebO

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-06-14 Thread Chuck Hill
All I know is, we are working on our own wall to stem the tide of illegal American immigrants after he wins the election! Damn uh, greenbacks, taking our jobs! :-P From: on behalf of Alan Ward Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 6:51 PM To: The Larsons Cc: Chuck Hill , WebObjects-Dev

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-06-14 Thread Chuck Hill
It is not really terrible; it is just official confirmation of what has been obvious for a long time now. Make WebObjects Great Again! Trump is missing the boat on this one! ;-P From: on behalf of The Larsons Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 6:27 PM To: Pascal Robert Cc: WebObjects-Dev Su

Re: Question about jdbc connection pool

2016-06-06 Thread Chuck Hill
I am pretty sure that maps to the ServerSocket’s backlog: “requested maximum length of the queue of incoming connections” From: on behalf of Ramsey Gurley Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 10:44 AM To: Leigh Kivenko Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Question about jdbc connection pool Off the to

Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship

2016-06-06 Thread Chuck Hill
: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:44 AM To: Samuel Pelletier Cc: Chuck Hill , Philippe Rabier , WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship According to yours posts, it seems that for performance reasons, we have to think twice (or more

Re: Question about jdbc connection pool

2016-06-06 Thread Chuck Hill
Yes, that is correct. So it is good not have not 3 second queries :-) and if you do have them and can identify them in advance, run them in a separate EOF stack to avoid impacting the other users. Chuck From: on behalf of Leigh Kivenko Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM To: Ramsey Gurley

Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship

2016-06-05 Thread Chuck Hill
To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship What do you mean with « you can still use it for fetching » ? I removed the class property for the Customer to Order (but keeped the « listOrder » relationship) When I set

Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship

2016-06-05 Thread Chuck Hill
You can do that, but the generated method won’t work as they depend on it being a class property. You can rewrite them to do fetches From: Jérémy DE ROYER Date: Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 2:03 PM To: Jérémy DE ROYER Cc: Chuck Hill , WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in

Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship

2016-06-05 Thread Chuck Hill
Remove the “class property” setting for the ModeTransport to Order. You can still use it for fetching. Chuck From: on behalf of Jérémy DE ROYER Date: Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 12:55 PM To: WebObjects-Dev Subject: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship D

Re: Tweaking the model on start-up

2016-06-03 Thread Chuck Hill
EntityLoadedNotification and change the class there. That should be before ERXEntityClassDescription$Factory gets involved. Chuck From: Mark Gowdy Date: Friday, June 3, 2016 at 4:50 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Tweaking the model on start-up On 3 Jun 2016, at 11:49

Re: Tweaking the model on start-up

2016-06-02 Thread Chuck Hill
finishInitialization() in your application. Chuck From: on behalf of Mark Gowdy Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 1:14 PM To: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Tweaking the model on start-up Hi, Is there a convenient way to update an Entity details when the app starts up? e.g. 'Model Framework’ (A) h

Re: Problem starting up app instance with -NSProjectSearchPath ()

2016-05-29 Thread Chuck Hill
That is only for source project discovery in Dev mode. From: on behalf of Klaus Berkling Date: Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 8:07 PM To: WebObjects Development Subject: Problem starting up app instance with -NSProjectSearchPath () I have a new app on a new installation. I'm nor trying to start my

Re: Class Main exists but is not a subcomponent of WOComponent

2016-05-19 Thread Chuck Hill
That should be right then. From: "Ress, David A" Date: Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 11:47 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Class Main exists but is not a subcomponent of WOComponent > Both packagings of WO are identical. It just depends on if you want a legacy

Re: Class Main exists but is not a subcomponent of WOComponent

2016-05-19 Thread Chuck Hill
uot; Date: Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 11:34 AM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Class Main exists but is not a subcomponent of WOComponent > ~/WebObjects.properties are optional, user specific properties. It is from > WO/Wonder, not Eclipse. Good to know, I need to remember this

Re: Class Main exists but is not a subcomponent of WOComponent

2016-05-19 Thread Chuck Hill
~/WebObjects.properties are optional, user specific properties. It is from WO/Wonder, not Eclipse. The second is in because you have WO installed both as jar bundles and framework bundles. It is just letting you know it is loading the jar versions. How are you including your custom framework

Re: Follow up on closure

2016-05-13 Thread Chuck Hill
This seems like a good way to go. We have had enough technical challenges around connectivity and bandwidth in the past. Chuck On 2016-05-13, 3:32 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Musall Maik" wrote: >Here's how we're doing it at CCC events (am

Re: Qualifier to match on content of two to-many relationships

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
e you have more that a handful of roles in the db total. Would >it be easier to just do something like > > NSArray notices = user.roles().valueForKey(“notices”); > >you might have to remove duplicates but that’s easy. > >Maybe I misunderstood the problem. >David > &g

Re: Qualifier to match on content of two to-many relationships

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
It is not completely mad, but there might be a cleaner way. From: Paul Hoadley Date: Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 4:36 PM To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Qualifier to match on content of two to-many relationships On 13 May 2016, at 9:03 am, Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com

Re: Qualifier to match on content of two to-many relationships

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
Best guess is that Dave A has been abducted by aliens for a comprehensive battery of probes. Or he is running Trump’s election strategy. Have you looked at Pierre Bernard’s qualifiers? There might be something in there: https://github.com/gloubibou/houdah-webobjects-frameworks/tree/master/Houd

Re: Exception Updating Rows When Qualifier Has Relationship

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Luiz, This is in the JavaDoc for this method: * Updates rows described by the qualifier. Note that the values and the qualifier need to be on an attribute * and not on a relationship level. I.e. you need to give relationshipForeignKey = pk of object instead of * relatedObject =

Re: Follow up on closure

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
I think that is a poor way of looking at it. Pascal has put his heart and soul and an amazing amount of effort and determination in the community for many years. It would not exist were it not for Pascal. What we are primarily discussing is not how to keep the WO Association going as it is, bu

Re: Follow up on closure

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
From memory, most of the developers now are based in Europe. So it might make sense to migrate it there.Do we even need the “association” (non-profit legal entity) now? Or do we just need an on-line shared presence for mutual co-operation? Chuck On 2016-05-12, 7:44 AM, "webobjects-dev-b

Re: Follow up on closure

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Pascal, First, my heartfelt thanks for all of the effort you have put into the community over the years. We might not say it that often, but we really do appreciate you! On 2016-05-12, 4:31 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Pascal Robert" wrote

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
Would a GoogleDoc Sheet not be better for this type of collaboration? It has a great version history feature (that Microsoft may, or may not have) I am sure that 'Chuck Hanviriyapunt’ would agree. Mark LOL! I am going to have to practice spelling that. Hill was so much easier! I am also not

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
There is a PayPal account: [cid:image001.png@01D1AC3F.9B750670] From: on behalf of Mark Gowdy Date: Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 1:59 AM To: WebObjects-Dev Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association On 12 May 2016, at 00:06, Ramsey Gurley mailto:rgur...@smarthealth.com>> wrote: http://st

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
We originally wanted then hosted by a “neutral” company so that if one of us went out of business that the resources would not be lost. This has happened before (anyone remember WOCode?). When facing the loss of your business, the community assets are probably not at the front of people’s mind

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
While you are testing things like this, you could verify that gasoline vapours are flammable as well. :-P On 2016-05-12, 9:36 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Jean Pierre Malrieu" wrote: >Yes, sure. But is there a way to test Apple’s willingness t

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-05-11 Thread Chuck Hill
At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall. I am good for at least that! We are not going to let you get caught short on this. Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too. Chuck From: on behalf of Ken Anderson Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM To: Pascal

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-05 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2016-05-05, 4:46 PM, "Pascal Robert" wrote: > >> Le 5 mai 2016 à 19:32, Chuck Hill a écrit : >> >> A after a night with Hugi on St. Denis a hospital ER might be a better >> choice than Au Pied. :-P My wife has already lectured me to behave. >

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-05 Thread Chuck Hill
>> >> >>> Le 5 mai 2016 à 19:32, Chuck Hill a écrit : >>> >>> A after a night with Hugi on St. Denis a hospital ER might be a better >>> choice than Au Pied. :-P My wife has already lectured me to behave. >> >> If the alcohol can m

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-05 Thread Chuck Hill
A after a night with Hugi on St. Denis a hospital ER might be a better choice than Au Pied. :-P My wife has already lectured me to behave. On 2016-05-05, 4:21 PM, "Pascal Robert" wrote: >Hugi. St-Denis Street. Perfect matchup! > >How, I guess it’s time to make a reservation at the Pied de

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-05 Thread Chuck Hill
Just don’t go out drinking whisky with him. Trust me on that one... On 2016-05-05, 7:11 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Flavio Donadio" wrote: >It seems I’ll have to buy me a ticket to the next WOWODC. I sure have to shake >hands with the most

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-04 Thread Chuck Hill
orate executives, these days we mostly conduct our coastal >raids through Panamian law firms using money stored in offshore companies. >It’s so much easier than eating psychoactive mushrooms and running around >raping and pillaging. > >- hugi > > > >> On 3. maí 2

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-04 Thread Chuck Hill
Gee…. I wonder if he will still associate with us now! From: Ramsey Gurley mailto:rgur...@smarthealth.com>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM To: David LeBer mailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>> Cc: Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>>, WebObjects-Dev mai

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-03 Thread Chuck Hill
The Viking Tradition lives on! From: David LeBer mailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:20 PM To: Chuck Hill mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead

Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

2016-05-03 Thread Chuck Hill
I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every year, get rid of him!” :-) On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Pascal Robert"

Re: qualifier with (NULL or joined value)?

2016-04-26 Thread Chuck Hill
It is a database thing, you need to model the relationship as an outer join. Chuck On 2016-04-26, 9:45 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of OC" wrote: >Hi there, > >I would need to fetch objects with qualifier > >=== >EOQualifier.qualifierWithQualifi

Re: SSL & Secure Component

2016-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill
Probably you are getting different headers and/or Apache is not passing some of them through. Log out the request headers and see what is there. Also compare to the code in ERXRequest.isRequestSecure Chuck On 2016-04-22, 9:03 AM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com

Re: modeling question

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
This *might* be what you want: https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WonderIntegration/javadoc/er/extensions/partials/package-summary.html On 2016-04-21, 4:49 PM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of T Worman" wrote: >All: > >I have a new database (read o

Re: Problems Starting Apps

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
> > >> On 21 Apr 2016, at 23:03, Chuck Hill wrote: >> >> Are you logged in or su - as appserver when you start them from the command >> line? >> >> >> >> >> On 2016-04-21, 3:00 PM, >> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityi

Re: Problems Starting Apps

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
s to change and it just hangs… Its >probably waiting for some response from something that is not returning... > >And as I said I can start the bash script in the home directory and no errors >are reported. > > > > >> On 21 Apr 2016, at 22:53, Chuck Hill wrote: >> >

Re: Problems Starting Apps

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Bingo! We have a winner! Second guess is permissions on the path where it is writing log files. Chuck On 2016-04-21, 2:27 PM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf of Dev WO" wrote: >I think Chuck would say to check the WOHost parameter:) > >Xavier > >>

Re: just checking...

2016-04-19 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2016-04-19, 2:01 PM, "OC" wrote: >Chuck, > >On 19. 4. 2016, at 22:48, Chuck Hill wrote: > >>>>> (b) contrariwise, with WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling = YES, two R/R >>>>> loops can be processed at the same time. Which might cause

Re: just checking...

2016-04-19 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2016-04-19, 1:43 PM, "OC" wrote: >Chuck, > >On 19. 4. 2016, at 22:30, Chuck Hill wrote: > >>> (b) contrariwise, with WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling = YES, two R/R >>> loops can be processed at the same time. Which might cause one of th

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