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That would be a bit difficult, because en is considered part of the fallback
chain proper. I'll see what I can do.
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The patch has been updated to reflect the amended workflow.
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--- Comment #45 from Niklas Laxström ---
I agree with the proposal and the amendment. It will just mean that lots of
minor wording fixes on our wikis will need to be moved to DB/en (or whatever is
the content language) to avoid breaking the fal
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--- Comment #44 from Tyler Romeo ---
Just to be clear, if the above description is correct, I disagree with it. It
doesn't make any sense conceptually that DB/de_at (the content language
subpage) would be the global override page. That should b
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--- Comment #43 from Tyler Romeo ---
OK, I think I finally understand. Basically you want to assign a special value
to the subpage that corresponds with the site language, so that if something is
on that page, it overrides all translations unle
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--- Comment #42 from Nemo ---
(In reply to comment #41)
> OK, so the functionality you are looking for is you want to change the way
> the
> base page is treated.
No. It doesn't need to be the base page. The solution agreed upon is that the
ov
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--- Comment #41 from Tyler Romeo ---
(In reply to comment #40)
> Yes. In comment 13 it was called "customisations that should override
> standard
> translations" as opposed to "tweaks". Simple example of override:
> [[m:MediaWiki:Histlegend]] s
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--- Comment #40 from Nemo ---
(In reply to comment #39)
> What do you mean "override site messages"? As in you want a message that, if
> set, overrides all languages and takes ultimate precedence?
Yes. In comment 13 it was called "customisatio
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--- Comment #39 from Tyler Romeo ---
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> English is included in the CDB files.
Ah yes you are right. I forgot about that piece of code in LocalisationCache.
> You are proposing following kind of logic:
> for x in langu
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--- Comment #38 from Niklas Laxström ---
English is included in the CDB files.
You are proposing following kind of logic:
for x in language_fallback_chain:
use DB/x if it exists
use CDB/x if it exists
The problem with this is that it remo
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--- Comment #37 from Tyler Romeo ---
(In reply to comment #36)
> I thought the current sequence is
>
> DB/fit -> CDB/fit -> CDB/fi -> CDB/en -> DB/fi -> DB/
>
> since CDB caches the full fallback chain lookup? That also seems consistent
> wit
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> Assuming the user language is fit and the content language is en, the current
> sequence in the master branch code right now is:
>
> DB/fit -> CDB/fit -> CDB/fi -> DB/fi -> DB/ -
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--- Comment #35 from Tyler Romeo ---
So unfortunately I'm having a bit of a hard time following exactly what kind of
fallback sequence is wanted here. "A/fit A/fi A/en CDB A" does not mean too
much because CDB can be the CDB for any language.
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Change 72867 had a related patch set uploaded by Parent5446:
Complete usage of message fallback chain
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72867
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Could be related to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57518/ and
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--- Comment #30 from Greg Grossmeier ---
Siebrand/Matt/Niklas: Any thoughts on this recurrence?
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This bug should be resolved, as previous behavior has been reinstated.
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--- Comment #27 from Andre Klapper ---
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> Is this bug resolved? I see bug 1495 has been re-opened.
Siebrand: Do you know by any chance?
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--- Comment #26 from MZMcBride ---
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> Reverted for the moment.
Is this bug resolved? I see bug 1495 has been re-opened.
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--- Comment #24 from Matt Walker ---
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> Let me know then this is fixed, and I will remove my local overrides. That
> hodgepodge of Dutch and English controls was extremely irritating.
This patch has been reverted and the
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Reverted for the moment.
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Katie will be deploying 56380 shortly.
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--- Comment #17 from Siebrand ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> 1)
> UI: A/fit A/fi A/en CDB A
> Content: A/en A CDB.
>
> In this case customisations that should override standard translations should
> be moved to /en. Tweaks would stay.
>
> T
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--- Comment #16 from Mormegil ---
A few days ago, I intended to report this exact bug when I spotted the behavior
change on Commons (where the [Read] tab has changed from Czech to English just
because somebody decided it would suit Commons bett
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Since both behaviors are considered broken, it looks like the only proper fix
is to separate the two use cases: customisations which should and which
shouldn't override standard translations should be se
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--- Comment #11 from Matt Walker ---
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> The problem I'm finding is that the majority of the overrides on English
> Wikipedia are trivial.
That's somewhat surprising to me; and then I'm surprised that I'm surprised :p
How
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--- Comment #10 from p858snake ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> That depends on your definition of broken. Many people thought the old
> behaviour was broken as well.
Breaking a long term norm (even if that itself is "broken") and the user
inter
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--- Comment #9 from kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com ---
I can understand your perspective, Matt, but the problem I'm finding is that
the majority of the overrides on English Wikipedia are trivial. Why would
changes like the ones seen at
http://en.wiki
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--- Comment #8 from Matt Walker ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> So you are breaking the interface for many people, and it will be "before the
> weekend".
Siebrand and the most of the rest of the i18n team are not based in SF -- this
decision was
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--- Comment #7 from Matt Walker ---
When I originally wrote the base patch I had a couple of different ideas for
how this would work. This particular option was chosen, in part, due to the
belief that if the local community had overridden the d
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--- Comment #6 from p858snake ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> We're expecting to make a decision and a fix if deemed necessary before the
> weekend.
So you are breaking the interface for many people, and it will be "before the
weekend".
Its cl
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Let me know then this is fixed, and I will remove my local overrides. That
hodgepodge of Dutch and English controls was extremely irritating.
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--- Comment #2 from kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com ---
More testing, and the issue seems to be that the order of interface selection
is wrong. By creating
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Rollbacklinkcount/nl I was able to
restore the Dutch tex
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Last sentence should read
All "history" tabs remain as "geschiedenis".
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