Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

for it to be blocked. -- gwern -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Best deletion objection ever

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement

flat since the number of editors isn't decreasing very much.) Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

...@wikimedia.org wrote: We'll post a technical FAQ soon with some more info. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

Yes, I looked into it, and apparently being stupid* is popular. *- defined as voting for things that are probably not in your own best interests On 17 January 2012 22:48, Javier Bassi javierba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: Am

Re: [WikiEN-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

On 4 November 2011 07:07, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: On 11/03/11 7:36 PM, Alan Liefting wrote: On 3/11/2011 10:45 p.m., Ray Saintonge wrote: On 11/02/11 3:38 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: I'm thinking that the problem here is inline references. An inline reference is one where

Re: [WikiEN-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

think that's a lot of the battle when editing. I think it's the inline references that are the main problem. As in, you wouldn't force people to not use inline style to insert references, but it would just get automatically adjusted to the site-preferred format. - d. -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

Good. Do it then. On 2 November 2011 22:42, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 November 2011 22:38, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking that the problem here is inline references. An inline reference is one where you plonk the reference in the middle

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

such additions or alterations to the structure of the Project require. Marc ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- -Ian

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

get such a body established in the first place in the Project? Marc on 10/28/11 3:01 PM, Ian Woollard at ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: The flaw isn't the oversight body, it's the almost complete lack of policies about 'crime and punishment'. It's not leadership; having a leader is very

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

a tenth that size it would be put up on the noticeboard and then get gratuitously chopped. And I'm not talking about spam links here. Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

to gang up on the editors. Then we give them unlimited power over editors and make sure that there's virtually no policies or guidelines that relate to severity of punishment. What could *possibly* go wrong??? Charles -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] --Wikipedia Manager 2012

away from quantity towards quality. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] --Wikipedia Manager 2012

and rebalancing things. So you're saying that sometimes people rewrite articles, and this contradicts my point how? Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] finding the most recognizable page names

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Difficulty making structural changes to WP due to human nature?

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Short featured articles

it, move it to a different name and change the topic. Bodnotbod -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

voted each score is a bit more interesting. If it's bimodal, with two peaks, then that often tells you something. But the tool doesn't currently give you that, it probably should. Tom -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

term should inherit another's link juice, but I couldn't see any obvious way to nofollow internal links when I checked briefly. -- geni -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

at the top of the google listings, and we haven't done anything odd, then that's perfectly fine. Andreas -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

to sources. But that doesn't seem to be what's happening here; I don't see signs of breach of NPOV. Andreas -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

periods for what appears to be a victimless 'crime'. So I actually don't feel sorry for him at all, in fact he really seems to have deserved it. Fred -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Otto Middleton (a morality tale)

of the size it ought to be, and if the article was allowed to grow, that material would not have been removed, because it would have been proportional. There doesn't seem to be any protection against this in the policies at all. I think that needs to be fixed, or at least, addressed. A. -- -Ian

Re: [WikiEN-l] Otto Middleton (a morality tale)

. It's a *good* idea to include things that are actually *wrong* like Otto Middleton as it gives us a place to point this out. A. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia? Step 1 allow people to edit

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Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

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Re: [WikiEN-l] How to start a viable competitor to Wikipedia?

on it. ;-) -- geni -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linkage bloat

in a very big ocean. Basically, what matters here is readability and usefulness. Charles -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] iCorrect

from the random feature. There needs to be a cut-off and the word we're looking for is 'merge'. - d. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Koch brothers articles doctored says Think Progress

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Tsunamis and disaster articles

. Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Koch brothers articles doctored says Think Progress

at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Accessibility of technical articles

. Or is it because writing well is difficult, and writing accurately is difficult, and writing well AND accurately is difficulty squared? Nah, that would be ridiculous, it's just obsessive nerds who are broken; of course. - d. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

although even that is looking perhaps very slightly pessimistic, but it's too early to be absolutely sure. But we can certainly I think, say with some justification, that the extended growth model is significantly off the mark. Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

On 15 February 2011 04:33, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 February 2011 04:00, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, so I stop there. Even 40 million appears completely unsupportable. It looks like it's off again by about another order of magnitude. Oh really? Yeah

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

On 15/02/2011, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 February 2011 16:19, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, really. That page claims we only have 3% of notable Poles. Are you really, seriously, telling me we only have 3% of ALL notable biographies??? Because that's what that page

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

, of course, but perhaps not always. Newyorkbrad On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 14/02/2011 03:35, Ian Woollard wrote: I think you can't take the simple percentages of articles, a lot of the most important and well visited

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

, and seems to be two orders of magnitude too high. - d. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

to a casual reader, but would not overall provide a complete picture for even a moderately detailed study. Considerable editing is needed to close gaps in content and address cleanup issues. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

On 14/02/2011, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: {{sofixit}} :) fixin' the Wikipedia - brb -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Fixed our client’s Wikipedia page.

of the biography, and can treat anything they say accordingly, if it was just a random web page then we don't even have that. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why I don't contribute to Wikipedia anymore

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Most wanted

number of articles, that don't exist. Even if they're linked from a template, they're still likely to be fairly important to be in a widely used template. And google would probably tend to consider these articles as important if they existed. Cheers, Magnus -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

creating a POV! -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

leadership. Things that aren't traded, don't require leadership, since consensus will very typically do the right thing for things that aren't traded off. Fred -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Eschatology and Wikipedia

are based on summarising information culled from paid-for sources. These sources are not generally available to people outside certain closed groups of people, at least, not without paying money, and except for recent works, who ever does that? Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia editing and Satanism: truth revealed

from what can be an *enormous* pile of positive ones, and no regard is even usually made about how things turned out. For this reason, the more contributions have been made, it's actually a bad thing. The upshot is, most people can get banned eventually. /realist hat off ;-) -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

some statistical analysis. The problem is that a good encyclopedia, such as the Wikipedia, tries to reflect reality and truth. But reality and truth... have a well known liberal bias. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Evaporative cooling in online communities

suppose at the moment, the admins are acting as a plaza, whereas specialist admins may be more and more desirable. -MuZemike -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Evaporative cooling in online communities

to the available sources), then the person with expertise will be labelled as a trouble maker. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Evaporative cooling in online communities

On 12 October 2010 20:11, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: ... and having a piece of people that says you ought to understand something ...having a piece of paper that says you ought to understand something(!)... (it previously read something like 'having people that ought

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

, at the moment, that he's being pessimistic. Still, in theory, a really good automated educational computer based learning system could change all that I suppose, but I've never heard of one that good. - d. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN

Re: [WikiEN-l] “Can you imagine the president of t he American Camellia Society having three stuffed bears in the courthouse?”

or a reference to the newspaper with the bad date? I did have a look at the article history a couple of days ago but couldn't confirm it. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] “Can you imagine the president of t he American Camellia Society having three stuffed bears in the courthouse?”

. That sounds like a much better idea, leaving brickbats around the place for bad guys to trip over isn't stupid at all. Carcharoth -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] “Can you imagine the president of t he American Camellia Society having three stuffed bears in the courthouse?”

On 18/09/2010, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, perhaps an automated filter of some kind could be used to tag edits like this. It should be possible to use existing bots for this using the arcane arts of 'regular expression' matching. -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] New tool: Write before you revert

, inevitably it's sometimes going to be done by someone who knows exactly what they're doing, and the original editor may have genuinely missed something obvious. Expecting them to jump through arbitrary hoops doesn't seem very wiki-friendly. -SC -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

is to do this *without* their wiki descending into absolute, total chaos, because if that happens nobody will read it and it won't be worth anything for advertising anyway. In principle, Wikis are stable enough to handle this, if you enforce NPOV and verifiability. - d. -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

, and then it would close and over (say) a couple of days or so the jury would vote on it. FW -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

-study for some academic. (this is evaluating your arguments, rather than an opinion on whether what they argue for is good or not) That's perfectly fair enough. It may even be that it's not a good idea. The principle of unexpected consequences and all that. - d. -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

On 27/08/2010, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2010 02:01, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: I would expect that that could be done, but I'd have to think about it. But if the process allows people not to check their biases at the door, then that's a problem

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

We don't absolutely need admins at all. If we used randomly chosen juries to make decisions then we could use bureaucrats or even bots to actually apply any decisions made. That essentially avoids the 'who polices the police' issue. -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

just need to show that the much larger number of jury members would be available, you also need to identify a benefit for this proposal, and that benefit would need to be more than commensurate with the disbenefits that I've identified. WereSpielChequers On 20 August 2010 18:13, Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

are actually dangerous?) AFDs. Having admins decide them gives inclusionists/deletionists too much power to side with their friends in a nearly invisible way. Not only can AFDs be vote stuffed, but admins can then decide to follow the 'majority'. - d. -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

ones. Solving those is an orthogonal problem. (Though the act of deletion is easily reversible, so is a power it would be safe to grant widely. Viewing deletia, OTOH, may not be; that said, oversighting is pretty efficient.) - d. -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: Random jury

merits of an article. The point is that the random choice of the jury allows for a straight vote among the jury. Right now, there's odd stuff going on sometimes. WereSpielChequers -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

the reader expects when they read the article. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

on any article, which is why flagged revisions seems a reasonable idea, rather than locking. - d. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] Another sourcing problem

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Another sourcing problem

you can do: fix the definition of reliable source. Or, isn't this the point of IAR? -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

I'm pretty sure that the main solution to this is to make the wiki experience better, not trying to specifically treat people that are getting frustrated's experience better. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Parallel Articles on topics

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Parallel Articles on topics

don't like forks. That isn't the problem. The problem is the people that DO like forks. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

honest, I don't think anyone knows, it will probably depend on what policies are built around it. -MuZemike -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] One-sentence explanation of pending changes

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Re: [WikiEN-l] declining numbers of EN wiki admins - The theory that making it easier to get rid of admins is a solution to the decline in their active numbers

. That's why it's supposed to be about who has identified the valid policy for deletion or keeping it. You can't stuff the vote by identifying valid policy. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reliable sources— some of these bab ies are ugly

ended up getting perma-banned. -Phil -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reliable sources— some of these bab ies are ugly

puppet abuse is covered by policy also, using a sock to repeatedly remove references will certainly get you blocked, as this individual involved found out. I would argue the other way- sticking to English-only references is unequivocally harmful for the project. -Phil -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reliable sources— some of these bab ies are ugly

. That's not quite true, you are allowed to add references to material written in foreign languages, and I've seen it done a few times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VER#Non-English_sources Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Simple vandalism occasionally being missed

disappearing off watchlists. Right now there's no guarantee that the edits have been reviewed at all, and flagged protection should at least give that level of guarantee. WereSpielChequers -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

On 13/05/2010, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: Under firefox, the new search box is quite buggy actually. I just tried typing really quickly into it on a slow machine, and ended up with only half

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

On 14/05/2010, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 May 2010 21:21, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's a horrible, horrible bug in the search box. To be honest, I think this bug should have gated the release; about 50% of the page hits go through this one box, and it's

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

said (nowhere useful). Only one out of three times did I end up at the right page, and it clearly wasn't simply my typo since I didn't touch the back key. AGK -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo on Commons

some of the sponsors of the Wikipedia, and Fox newspaper has been deliberately seeking them out, and trying to persuade them not to donate any more money: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/may/10/ipad-apple AGK -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

to be. I think we're writing for everyone, although ironically the 'pedia' bit of Wikipedia and encyclopedia refers to children (as in PEDIAtric doctors- children's doctors)! Encyclopedias were actually mostly intended to educate children. -- Phoebe -- -Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Resolving conflicts and reaching consensus

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Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Looking for thoughts on statistics

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Looking for thoughts on statistics

with new knowledge; but IMO it will probably be mostly dealing with new knowledge within the next year or so. -- -Ian Woollard ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Looking for thoughts on statistics

On 28/03/2010, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com I think a lot of people get involved to write new articles. It looks like 2007 was 'peak oil' for new articles; after that it was getting harder to find new

Re: [WikiEN-l] It's Only a Theory (and free culture)

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Unreverted vandalism

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