On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
About six months ago now, I stumbled on an article that wasn't in
great shape, added some text over a series of edits, and increased the
number of links in the 'external links' section from 5 to 22. Now,
admittedly
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012 17:32, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
That conclusion would be far more convincing if you weren't who you are.
That's [[ad hominem]] against Carcharoth, and you really need
Thank you for the clarification.
Charles
He raises an interesting possibility. What would really be a better test
of the idea would be to edit unlogged from a wi-fi hotspot and add around 2
dozen external links each to several articles as he describes along with a
general improvement and
It's a common story in the human species. First, we want to achieve a
goal. Second, we discover that we are all different[2] and that we
need some rules to organize our work. Third, we make the rules really
complicated to fit every corner case. Fourth, we completely forget the
goal of
Let's not mince words: Wikipedia administratorship can be a serious
liability. The 'reward' for volunteering for this educational nonprofit can
include getting one's real name Googlebombed, getting late night phone calls
to one's home, and worse. The Wikimedia Foundation has never sent a cease
Brilliant idea. :)
-Durova
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Could this all simply be resolved by the publishers releasing a
_thumbnail-sized version_ of the book cover under a Wikipedia-compatible
license?
-- Neil
Excellent piece. Especially the close about how it's a difficult position
for PR professionals to report to the client that the article was deleted.
-Durova
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:35 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
http://rushprnews.com/2010/03/31/pr-consultants-should-think
forgotten for
fifty years after her death--I wonder what critics of the next generation
will say about the theme music from Morrowind.
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I do sweeps. These articles are magnets for
copyright violations, for instance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_the_Wee_Small_Hours_of_the_Morningdiff=345538182oldid=341758494
-Durova
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Ken
Yes, lack of good administrators is a big problem, but the policies that
they administer would remain the same without regard to the number of
administrators. A simpler formulation of the rules could ease the
administrators' burdens. Alternatively, the solution is more administrators.
When
In summary, it's up to Wikipedia to adopt its own policies. Personally,
I would avoid too doctrinaire an approach; I would more tend to assume
that if one takes a fair-minded approach to including material with
uncertain copyright status the worst that can happen is that some
ghostly
Have you asked WMF UK?
-Lise
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/rorycellanjones/2010/01/public_data_free_at_last.html
Looks interesting. Are there tie-ups with Wikipedia or Wikimedia
applications?
Climate change is a myth. There have always been palm trees on the
Antarctic peninsula...
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM, The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com wrote:
Clearly this is just a plot by scientists to take money from oil companies
(well, only some of them, because Shell and BP support
a featured star display for caption boxes the problem would
decrease significantly, and casual readers would have the advantage of a cue
to the site's best illustrations. Non-featured pictures are rarely worth a
view at full resolution, but featured pictures reward a close examination.
-Durova
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that
was Charles's intended inference?
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/11/27 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
It's hard to understand the conjecture that Wikipedia ties in with those
plans. If anything, Wikipedia's habit of referencing historic news
articles
would help Mr
any sleep if Rupert Murdoch's
income dips slightly next year, I'd like to see The New York Times meet its
mortgage payments.
-Durova
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
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readers that the world wouldn't end in 2012. Part of that
laughter enjoyed the absurdity while part of it was nervous for the future
of that newspaper.
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counterintuitive. It can't take genius to figure this out...?
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significantly after they donated 100,000 medium resolution images to
Wikimedia Commons. Informally, the word is that their sales approximately
doubled.
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's hard to understand the conjecture that Wikipedia ties in with those
plans. If anything, Wikipedia's habit of referencing historic news
photographs of an ice skating competition would be on the
same footing as equivalent photographs of a downhill skiing event, or
whether the summer marathon would be different from a gymnastics event.
-Durova
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Sage Ross wrote
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Durova wrote:
Suppose for discussion's sake we can fully trust that the brother-in-law
of
Jeane Dixon's nephew has indeed commented upon the matter. Relatives
have
been known to get their facts wrong. The more
Suppose for discussion's sake we can fully trust that the brother-in-law of
Jeane Dixon's nephew has indeed commented upon the matter. Relatives have
been known to get their facts wrong. The more distant, the more likely a
mistake.
My own cousins and I debate the spelling of a grandmother's
Congratulations! And thanks for your dedication to the project. You
realize when he turns thirteen he's going to die of embarrassment over
this...?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sage Ross
ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comragesoss%2bwikipe...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:12 PM,
/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-08-10/Tropenmuseum_partnership
If this sounds intriguing, write to me off list. Especially if you happen
to live near Montreal, Canada or Santa Barbara, California. ;)
-Durova
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:11 AM
. We're working to build synergies. Various kinds of synergies can
develop. That's one of them.
-Durova
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
4. Persuade the staff to change policy
something for them. It won't answer your questions directly, but it will
explain the underlying importance of *access*. That's absolutely essential
for historic media discussions. Think of *provenance* as a proof that
derives from *access*.
-Durova
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Steve Bennett
. With your long commitment to free culture, I really
expected better.
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:26 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/22 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
A small group of people do digital image restoration regularly; we can
hold
focused discussions among ourselves
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/22 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
When this thread began I hoped more people would comb the collection in
search of copyleft license violations. We have been losing FP volunteers
over license violation
During this thread things could have spun off in many more directions than
they did. Mainly because the assumptions of most posters were at odds with
my firsthand experience on multiple points. So I picked out a couple of the
most important ones and attempted to address them, but that turned out
at 7:10 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
Going through their online store revealed a dozen more of my restorations
for sale, all without credit. Other featured picture contributors may
want
to review
: balance the white to hot
off the presses new? Day old? Five years in the scrapbook?
Historic media editors debate these decisions; there are good arguments for
and against all of them. And there isn't any absolute solution. Sometimes
we change our minds.
-Durova
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:59 PM
That isn't a policy. This is the list of the German Wikipedia policies.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Richtlinien
Their structure is different; this is roughly on the level of
Wikipedia:Assume no clue.
-Durova
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth
. The man's name and the location are unknown. The photograph
was taken in 1925.
It helps to speak from experience when discussing digital restoration.
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that comfortable
little refuge.
I wonder whether it's still possible to identify him.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the kind words, David.
With digital restoration, often one encounters elements about the original
that are unknowable
Actually this isn't a copyright discussion.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=581
To ensure that publication of material from its collections receives due
acknowledgment and promotion, the Library requires that permission to
publish is obtained prior to publication.
All requests for
a separate filename, and both file descriptions would link to each
other for cross reference.
-Durova
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote:
I agree from this, and your previous post, that restoring historical images
can be a difficult process, particularly when
that for five minutes of running plug-ins.
Imagine how simple it would be for an institution to protect its income
stream by exploiting that confusion.
There's a lot more to be said on the subject, but that's enough to digest
for now.
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-Durova
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.orgwrote:
2009/9/18 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
If I were to place restorations under copyleft license it would backfire.
Not necessarily backfire against me personally, but against the free
culture
You're starting to touch on the vigorous debates that a few media editors
have and which hardly anyone else understands. Let's frame the terms of
discussion properly, though: you begin from the debatable presumption that
restoration and creative input are mutually exclusive concepts.
-Durova
Let's set the Sistine Chapel example to rest: physical restoration and
digital restoration are so different that it clouds the discussion to
compare them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sam Blacketer sam.blacke...@googlemail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Carcharoth
haywire.
Most of the people who review restorations lack firsthand experience. So as
a practical measure I removed most of the rubbings. I still have qualms
about that.
-Durova
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.orgwrote:
2009/9/18 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
Wikimedians' copyleft licenses; featured
pictures have been stolen for commercial purposes before.
In his eagerness to construct a strawman, John Vandenberg ignores all these
factors. This is one reason why the pool of featured picture contributors
is small.
-Durova
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM, John
shake
my head and move on. It isn't easy to expand the volunteer pool under these
conditions. But a new group of high resolution images arrived from the
Tropenmuseum today; when one door closes another one opens.
-Durova
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USS West Virginia
http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-1945-US-Army-63rd-DIVISION-WALDENBURG-Photo_W0QQitemZ130329160282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Photo_Images?hash=item1e58392a5a_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
Waldenburg, Germany
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The vendor violates moral rights on all the items it offers for sale.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights_%28copyright_law%29
In particular, though, it happens to be useful that along the line they're
selling Walt Disney's portrait with Mickey Mouse.
Cheers,
Durova
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009
copyedit but instead install themselves at
featured content processes, telling other people what to do.
-Durova
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Clearly, though
Would you consider holding office hours in Skype sometime? Not everyone
uses IRC.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Philippe Beaudette
pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
IRC office hours for the strategy project are upon us again Our
next office hours will be: 20:00-21:00 UTC, Tuesday 15
A Wikipedian troll had a few observations too.
http://hamletprinceoftrollmark.blogspot.com/2009/09/who-writes-history.html
;)
-Durova
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
That's funny your link got it's final character cut off in my email box so
it didn't work.
Testing
be interesting if someone wrote a tool to check article citations.
Footnoting has been getting more and more commonplace, as well as more
extensive.
-Durova
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:02 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Passed on to WP:AN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators
for the laughter.
-Durova
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
Will, simple question: do you accept that trivial disambiguations can
be unencyclopedic and give the wrong impression, and if so, is having
a neutral dab hatlink better than a jarring note
the others may abandon their claims and get in line
to cooperate with us.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
How many people click through to the image itself? That is where the
credit is, and the link onwards to the source. Would it help
is drawing attention to the media side of Wikipedia.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
How many people click through to the image itself? That is where the
credit is, and the link onwards to the source. Would it help if the
source
normally go into a photographer's portfolio as proof of
their skills. Yet often they still have encyclopedic value and the
photographer may have more to gain by relicensing them under cc-by-sa with a
source link to their own website.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Carcharoth carcharot
Yes, that's how we got the featured picture of Michele Merkin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Michele_Merkin_1.jpg
Would you like to follow up on that idea?
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Magnus Manske
magnusman...@googlemail.comwrote:
Has there ever been a concerted effort
Yes, I think that's what Videmus Omnia was doing. He used to have a subpage
in userspace to explain it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Michele_Merkin_1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Videmus_Omnia/Free_Imagesaction=editredlink=1
-Durova
sound card photograph at lead position.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I think that's what Videmus Omnia was doing. He used to have a
subpage in userspace to explain it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates
, either with photographers
or with cooperative institutions, to sidestep discussion about the
cooperative alternatives and refocus on one legal threat. This is our
opportunity to build upon Noam's article and create new synergistic
relationships; let's make the most of it.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote:
Click-throughs are much lower, often on the level of 15,000-30,000 during
main page time. Yet remember these are also generating a steady stream of
attention on the articles themselves. The one amateur photo of a sound
a paradigm shift.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:14 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/20 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
You are right Durova. I apologise for sidetracking things there.
Do you have views on how to address situations where we have a free
pictures
them about copyleft. Present a
coherent summary of WP's license structure and step by step practical
instructions for copyright owners to donate material so that we can use it.
Don't write that as an essay on Wikipedia; write it as an article for a
photography trade magazine.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 20
a broader net and building its own base of support, rather than
trying to siphon the most encyclopedic images out of FP. At the same time
as Triton was nominated, VP enthusiasts tried to delist the atomic bombing
of Nagasaki.
-Durova
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote
If anyone is inspired to try a sequel there was a Mount Whoredom in colonial
Boston. Center left, second hill from the shoreline.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boston,_1775bsmall1.png
-Durova
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com
wrote:
Tim Starling
Actually, a current poll is running 38-18 in favor of treating talk page
incivility the same as incivility anywhere else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility/Poll#Should_a_user.27s_own_talk_page_be_considered_differently.3F
-Durova
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:58 AM, FT2 ft2.w
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ken Arromdeearrom...@rahul.net wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Durova wrote:
With respect and appreciation extended toward Apoc2400, it's dubious
that
there would be a need for a separate policy to cover this rare situation
gets booted.
2. In voice chat, belching is permissible only if it includes a three
second duration and a good chest tone.
3. In voice chat, heavy breathing is allowable only if accompanied by
video. Otherwise mute the mike.
-Durova
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:18 PM, George Herbert
Gwern: see the Ken Hechtman example above. In 2001 a Canadian journalist
who was held by the Taliban did have his life endangered by news coverage.
-Durova
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.comwrote:
Can I ask what policy this was done under? While I generally
I absolutely support treating the life of a Talib with comparable respect.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Durova wrote:
Agreed. The challenge is to codify this in a manner that doesn't step
upon
the slippery slope of censorship.
On Tue, Jun
the safety and fate of others like him.
Wikipedians have tangible editorial and policy responsibilities regarding
the latter. The former is tangential politics. It is best to keep these
matters separate.
-Durova
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Gwern
With respect and appreciation extended toward Apoc2400, it's dubious that
there would be a need for a separate policy to cover this rare situation.
At most, a line or two in existing policy would articulate the matter.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:26 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
A more proactive approach would be very welcome where it comes to featured
pictures. WMF photographers have occasionally discovered their work reused
without credit in commercial advertising.
-Durova
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
wrote
In reply to Wjhonson, here's an example of a captured reporter who
subsequently had the chance to explain how careless coverage endangered his
life.
In late 2001 Canadian journalist Ken Hechtman was in Afghanistan when the
United States invaded, and was arrested as a suspected spy. Here's the
of the document on the order of 25MB-100MB. Source credit
will be provided to the institution, of course, and the final work might be
selected to run on Wikipedia's main page.
Please contact me if you can assist or provide contacts.
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Summary: Geeks use computers. This passes for insight?
-Durova
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:37:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
wjhon...@aol.com writes:
How dare you! Go away and be quiet!
On a lighter note, I've never met
institutional donations; we need every advantage we can muster.
-Durova
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:34 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/25 Siobhan Hansa helens...@gmail.com:
Steve Bennett wrote:
And why do you care anyway? Vanity? Curiosity? Is it that important?
Is a little piece
Wired also used one of my featured picture restorations without credit.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, William King williamcarlk...@gmail.comwrote:
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/editor-of-wired-apologizes-for-copying-from-wikipedia-in-new-book/
Chris Anderson, the
Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/24 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
Wired also used one of my featured picture restorations without credit.
Credit for the original, or credit for the restoration?
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as a featured picture, which
designates Wikipedia's best content. It ran on Wikipedia's main page on 16
March 2008: one month before your uncredited reproduction of my volunteer
labor.
I seek no compensation other than credit. Please post credit as follows:
Restoration by Lise Broer (Durova
Well, I don't mind that these things run without financial compensation.
But it would be nice to receive credit. The Brandeis restoration especially
was a difficult job that took about three days.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at
Actually we also get bookspam. The classic version of this is an IP turns
up at a watchlist making one edit to an article to add an item to the
references section. Check the IP history and it makes one edit each to a
lot of different articles, each adding a book reference but not building the
Tough situation. Even with David not talking, it's a little surprising that
the background got presented like that. It looks like the reporter didn't
fully understand. From this distant vantage (California), I wonder whether
ComCom could have explained the context?
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:24
Very well stated. The ability to oversight, or to promote a successful RfA,
or to checkuser, or even to be one vote among fifteen in whether dates
should be delinked--is all trivial compared to real world news like this.
Let's hope that everyone else who holds a position of similar trust
that wikipedia is not
censored)
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Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote in message
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Hi all, in two years of looking for solutions to the BLP issues have
Perhaps I should have thought of this example sooner: one extreme instance
that comes to mind is the following biography:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Sanchez
Which was nominated for deletion three times and kept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Matt_Sanchez
Of course ArbCom doesn't ban someone merely for correcting BLP problems; no
one suggests they did.
:The subject himself is no boy scout. When he gained attention a ghost from
his closet emerged, and his attempts to deal with the resulting problems at
Wikipedia were so counterproductive that he
know digital information never gets manipulated in
misleading ways.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jimbogoesswimming.jpg
-Lise
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From: Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l
, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:13 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A new solution for the BLP dilemma
Negative information was sourced to talk
because it was merited by his conduct; afterward I mentored him--that's no
secret. Nor is it partisanship. Frivolous claims of bias are one of the
reasons I've stopped accepting new mentorships. Which is sad for the people
who honestly want to turn over a new leaf.
-Durova
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7
of
structure to make sure the ability doesn't get misused. An initial draft
proposal is at my blog. Am interested in thoughts and suggestions.
http://durova.blogspot.com/2009/06/biographies-of-living-persons-ingenius.html
Best regards,
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, 2009 at 2:40 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
Hi all, in two years of looking for solutions to the BLP issues have
finally
stumbled upon an idea that hasn't been raised before. Basically it's
this:
*Suppose we noindexed biographies of living
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2009/6/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
Wikipedia articles that present material about living people can
affect
their subjects' lives
. Do we
shrug off legitimate complaints as easily as you advise? Perhaps this is a
philosophical/ethical difference. I say we look for solutions.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:40 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
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From: Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com
To: English Wikipedia wikien
if the answer is no, I want a simple plain and direct no.
There's no excuse for giving another human being the run-around when we can
prevent it.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/5 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
Obviously the bids don't cite Wikipedia
The proposal is to noindex upon the subject's request. Isn't it best to let
the people who live with the consequences weigh those pros and cons? If the
main thing they want is to get Wikipedia off the top Google result, then it
may be worth it to them. On principle, I'm not keen on paternalism.
Penicillin may be great for strep throat, but that's no argument against
chicken soup. Especially when the pharmacy's supply of penicillin is in
back order. ;)
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM,
Hm.
31K, start-class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Western_thought
79K, featured:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Simpson
That probably explains it, Fred.
-Durova
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
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Dang, there go my cheap mainspace edits reverting school vandalism at Andrew
Johnson's biography.
(snaps fingers)
Seriously, thank you for this.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Brion Vibber
Please help me nuke it before this well-intentioned notion of arbitration
does any more damage.
-Durova
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:10 AM, SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
I've started a proposal to enforce neutral editing on Israel-Palestine
articles, which could be extended to other
topic banned because the Blefuscuan isn't adding to the imbalance of
negative information about his own country.
Interesting.
-Durova
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM, SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
This is the key
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