Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

> initiative to engage women editors and improve the breadth of coverage of > topics relating to women. > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > +1 to your email Yaroslav. > > > > I'd just underline Gnangarra's orig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

+1 to your email Yaroslav. I'd just underline Gnangarra's original email wasn't sexist, it's so unfair to vilify criticism towards contests as sexism. Vito 2017-10-16 9:33 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav Blanter : > My (rejected) message below anyway. > [CUT because of boring filter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Open Foundation West Africa

Good neews, I hope they can help with saving WP0 from abusers, as Wikimedia Bangladesh already did. Vito 2017-10-14 14:37 GMT+02:00 Isaac Olatunde : > Good news. Congratulations!! > > Regards, > > > Isaac > > On Oct 14, 2017 12:24 PM, "shola ishola"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding the endowment

Caveat: I support a definitely more frugal WMF so also the endowment. Try to read it from a different perspective. Before donating *lots* of money donor wants to be sure WMF will be truly committed in pursuing the plan of an endowment. Putting the same amount of money is a prove, for donors, WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

By the way a certain degree of accountability is needed. There cannot be any privacy for "wikingers" or people bringing cyberbulling to wiki. Vito 2017-06-06 2:10 GMT+02:00 Risker : > As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the past by actual Tor > users), there is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

We currently have some mean to fight paid editing, terms of services are "easy to violate" thus giving us a straightforward way to take action. But too often I see something like: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16826370 obvious paid editors left totally free to do their job without even attracting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournal project

I missed your email so I wrote the same thing by mistake, sorry! Vito 2017-03-15 16:26 GMT+01:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) : > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Felipe Schenone > wrote: > > > If we migrate the content we currently have (on Meta and > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournal project

You can think about relying upon WMF OAuth to login to wikijournal. Basically anyone would be able to login to wikijournal using their WMF wikis' credentials. If you make this the sole way to login you'll end up having an already-ready-to-merge userbase. Vito 2017-03-15 20:44 GMT+01:00 Felipe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

In short, wiki projects existence itself is a political act. Furthermore, it's a "liberal" (in wide sense) political act: you may attribute values as free and universal access to knowledge to various political factions, but these values are the founding principle of this virtual place. Also, even

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

I think methodological objections shouldn't prevail over substantial objections. I can agree most of consensus in CoC draft came from WMF staffers/contractors, but: *no one was prevented from weighing-in *lists were filled with invitations to weigh-in *I think most of us didn't comment just

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

Yep, none of them implied massive and preventive blocks. There's something broken needing further investigations then. Vito 2017-02-22 16:17 GMT+01:00 Yaroslav Blanter : > Did not we have some mass vandalism from Angola some time ago, and then > measures had to be taken? I do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

as already expressed trust in. > > On 18 February 2017 at 22:15, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > AffCom has nothing to do with this kind of issue, most of projects have > no > > arbcoms, Finally, anyone would appeal, turning WMF-issued ban into a [how >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

AffCom has nothing to do with this kind of issue, most of projects have no arbcoms, Finally, anyone would appeal, turning WMF-issued ban into a [how to call this group?]-issued ban. Vito 2017-02-18 15:05 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac : > Gnangarra raised some valid and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-16 5:57 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > Hi Fae, > > A few points: > > * Thank you for trying to get and maintain a public list of WMF accounts > with special permissions. I think that this is helpful for the community to > know. I also think that WMF should actively maintain the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Niels Christian Nielsen appointed to Wikimedia Endowment Advisory Board

I find all of these to be deeply non relevant. Though they might be relevant according to standard en.wiki practice, I wonder whatever someone would had written a line about a to-be-created relatively small endowment of a website(s) or people managing it, unless it was "our" website(s). Also I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for your service, Wikimedia Hong Kong

Just a question: can a former chapter reapply for recognition? Vito 2017-02-08 16:13 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk : > As the chapter status of Wikimedia Hong Kong has come to an end, I would > like to thank the volunteers at Wikimedia Hong Kong for their incredible > work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

Actually some parties might bring EU to low standards of freedom of expression. For what concerns Wikimedia, I fear more lobbying about copyright related legislation or about net neutrality than USA turning into a dictatorship. I'm not afraid of a complete service disruption but instead of things

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

I've just crossed https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Paulinapaulina3030 but I must confess I won't do anything out of the wiki (it.wiki) where I am a local sysop. Catching crosswiki paid editing is the most frustrating activity ever, a couple of years ago I wasted two months in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Music industry threats to safe harbor?

I see, thank you for your explanation, coming from a civil law system it sounds pretty weird. Anyway I concur, it's pure madness and some action must be taken. Vito 2016-12-19 19:46 GMT+01:00 geni <geni...@gmail.com>: > On 19 December 2016 at 18:38, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com&g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Music industry threats to safe harbor?

I wouldn't call DMCA safe harbor(s) "how Wikipedia is allowed to exist". At a glance I'd say it would (at worst) impact on some (most) wikis way to handle copyvios/the thin red line around fair-use, but most of our ecosystem shouldn't be affected. So, what am I missing? Vito 2016-12-19 17:45

Re: [Wikimedia-l] investments still poor; return improved +0.3% to 1.5%

10% would imply a pretty high risk or a strategy which is not compatible WMF's values. 3-4% would balance risks with profits, there are pretty safe senior bonds with a 2-3% yield which could balance some less-than-best rated bond giving up to 6%. Anyway WMF's mission imply low risks in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

an Raddatz <ajradd...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Similar to Vito, the safe space/code of conduct crowd has never > > demonstrated that any of these principles are not already held and > enforced > > across our projects. > > > > Adrian Raddatz > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

Same here, ofc. I still cannot understand how there could be online communities refusing these very basic principles. Vito 2016-11-21 0:57 GMT+01:00 Alex Monk : > On 20 November 2016 at 13:35, Jonathan Cardy > wrote: > > > > The nastiest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor safety and anonymity: ending IP address exposure?

r less the same' with regards to fighting vandalism and sockpuppetry. > And answering that question would start with describing how we actually do > make use of this data. Sounds like a good process to go through, but this > puts more emphasis on 2). > > Lodewijk > > 2016-11-12 21:36 GMT

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How should security of Wikimedia accounts be better?

personal information like this is handled by WMF implemented > software. It could even be an area that requires legally meaningful > assurance, or local processing to avoid, say, Europeans sending any > personal data to the USA. ;-) > > Fae > > On 12 November 2016 at 13:53, V

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How should security of Wikimedia accounts be better?

My phone number is something I consider highly sensitive. Linking this kind of data to my online identity would be an unacceptable risk for me. Vito 2016-11-12 13:37 GMT+01:00 Amir Ladsgroup : > As far as I know 2FA is already implemented and mandatory for WMF staff >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

We can share knowledge without meetings, we cannot share knowledge without our community. If some of our community cannot be safe well...who cares of meetings then? Vito 2016-10-18 15:26 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > For me safety is to a large extend secondary

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

IMHO we should divide criteria into two categories, reflecting two different kind of issue: *someone *cannot* partecipate because of a certain issue -> the proposal is rejected *someone may not feel comfortable in partecipating -> the proposal is somehow penalized In other words, if LGBT people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

+1 on train & promote. Vito 2016-08-14 4:38 GMT+02:00 James Heilman : > Only the CTO position is empty. All of the rest are filled with very > competent interims who may simply be transitioned into permanent. I like it > that people who prove themselves to be excellent can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

My activity at en.wiki only deals with crosswiki abuse and lta "management". So don't be afraid of me but frainkly I don't find your startup incubator to be notable. In other words I don't find it to be something I expect to find on an encyclopedia. Vito 2016-06-26 9:57 GMT+02:00 Mitar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

As a deletion I'd say we totally lost at en.wiki, we can maybe tie on other wikis. Life is never B/W, grey is everywhere. Vito 2016-06-25 12:18 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > The English deletionists may be winning. Thank (include your deity) for > Wikidata. We

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The end

I'm not a regular at the English Wikipedia so I don't have any background about what did happen to you. I spend a fair amount of my spare time editing wikis but fuck off the wiki, it's just a virtual world. All this happened to your virtual identity not to you! Vito 2016-05-17 14:44 GMT+02:00

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What New Thing is WMF Doing w. Cookies, & Why is Legal Involved?

Edits didn't affect the content of the policy actually. Also a cookie policy is essentially a legal stuff, I'd be surprised to *don't *see the legal team editing it. As a "sockpuppet investigator" I never rely upon cookies, I prefer fingerprints and social security numbers. Vito 2016-05-01

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

It's ordinary countervandalism, honestly I cannot find anything questionable but maybe a missed something. Vito 2016-03-24 9:04 GMT+01:00 David Emrany : > Dear Gerard > > Correspondingly, what I find unconscionable for us is that a small > group of Commons editors

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

Personally I'd say "it's 100% wrong" but "not 100% to blame". I've just made https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130761 IMHO we need to address the problem form a technical point of view, implicitly discarding "block'em all" options. Vito 2016-03-23 19:42 GMT+01:00 Keegan Peterzell

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Above all hosting a shop means: *production on demand: no "risks" but products become more expensive and slow to deliver *warehousing: means immobilizing a certain amount of money at the risk to accumulate unsold items. IMHO an internal shop would be justified by turnover at least 10 times greater

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Disabe Media Viewer for non-logged-in users and logged-in users on Wikimedia Commons

Oh I missed dates, this is a good point then. Ignoring a wide community consensus is *always* a mistake. Final decisions might even diverge from consensus but *ignoring* is the worst way. Vito 2016-03-14 21:31 GMT+01:00 Michael Peel : > That's a good point. I've started a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Disabe Media Viewer for non-logged-in users and logged-in users on Wikimedia Commons

Same with consensus from logged-out users to implement MV. I have no strong feelings about the issue (anons shouldn't be affected by MV side effects but also MV is almost useless on Commons) but well, consensus cannot be ignored. Vito 2016-03-14 15:28 GMT+01:00 Marc A. Pelletier

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The right time is now!

2016-02-25 23:34 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : > I stopped responding to other emails because the significance of this > moment is so large, that we have now we didn't have since the > beginnings of Wikipedia. > > We've got the chance to rebuild the movement. > I was about to write

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for our time together.

Maybe I'm too far from the relevant stuffs but I feel like it was your (implicit) mandate to be proven wrong. There's a series of far deeper flaws within our ecosystem arising anytime it is under pressure. The biggest one is having a Board which is sometimes supposed to direct, sometimes to

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