[Wikimedia-l] Re: Outcomes from the March Meeting for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2024-03-28 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 1:51 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > I wanted to clarify that it is not 3% of all donors that go on to make an >> unreverted edit. All donors are directed to a “Thank You” page after their >> donations, which includes several calls-to-action. This year, we included >> a call

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-18 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 4:04 PM James Heilman wrote: > There are Wikis that have "succeeded" with IP editing turned off with > some being WikEM and Eyewiki > > Additionally PT Wikipedia banned IP editing in 2020 > >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread Steven Walling
d their own >> community of mentors, alums, and practitioners!) would be wonderful. >> Their impact per unit of funding seems, at very casual inspection, well >> ahead of all comparable initiatives. And we could even fund them directly, >> who have often helped us in turn.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Steven Walling
> But it?s the different from what you started the discussion with where >> you were saying ?we all should want?. >> >> I want us to make things that move the needle regarding knowledge equity >> and that probably require outside of the projects programs. >> >> As to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Steven Walling
e projects. The problem is that none of these things are what donors believe they are funding when they give us $5 from a banner on Wikipedia asking them to support the projects. > > On Aug 16, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Steven Walling > wrote: > > ? > This is really really disappointing to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Steven Walling
This is really really disappointing to see. The lessons noted in the blog post totally miss the point as to why the Wikimedia community has objected to Knowledge Equity Fund. The issue is not community oversight via committees or visibility into the work. It’s that the work had no demonstrable

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Steven Walling
We don’t really need to test the idea that people want to ask factual questions in natural language. The question is: what’s the best way to serve people who want to ask a normal human question and get an answer? The definitive truth is that people want to search this way in the same place they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-18 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 3:49 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 7:05 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > > > IANAL of course, but to me this implies that responsibility for the > *egregious* lack > > of attribution in models that rely substantially on

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-17 Thread Steven Walling
ca-lora> >> >> >> 3.) 8,4,3 bit-quantization of model for reduced hardware requirements >> >>- Running LLaMA 7B and 13B on a 64GB M2 MacBook Pro with llama.cpp >><https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/llama-7b-m2> >>- Github: bloomz.cpp

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:39 PM Luis (lu.is) wrote: > On Feb 22, 2023 at 9:28 AM -0800, Sage Ross , > wrote: > > Luis, > > OpenAI researchers have released some info about data sources that > trained GPT-3 (and hence ChatGPT): https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.14165 > > See section 2.2, starting on page

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-03 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:47 PM Gergő Tisza wrote: > Just to give a sense of scale: OpenAI started with a $1 billion donation, > got another $1B as investment, and is now getting a larger investment from > Microsoft (undisclosed but rumored to be $10B). Assuming they spent most of > their

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2022-12-29 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 4:09 PM Victoria Coleman < vstavridoucole...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone. I have seen some of the reactions to the narratives generated > by Chat GPT. There is an obvious question (to me at least) as to whether a > Wikipedia chat bot would be a legitimate UI for some

[Wikimedia-l] Re: WMF financial statements for 2021-2022 published

2022-11-09 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 10:37 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Dear WMF Finance staff, > > I inquired over a week ago on Meta-Wiki why the WMF is reporting a > negative investment income (–$12 million). There has been no answer to > date.[1] > > I am a layperson, but how can an investment income be

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

2022-05-19 Thread Steven Walling
kin and do the math: how much > collective time are we going to spend on this? > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:12 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:35 PM Nathan wrote: >> >>> >>> &g

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

2022-05-19 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:35 PM Nathan wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:38 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM Evelin Heidel >> wrote: >> >>> +1 to this, my perception is that we're wasting a lot of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

2022-05-19 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM Evelin Heidel wrote: > +1 to this, my perception is that we're wasting a lot of volunteer's + > staff time + resources into complex governance processes without clear > results. In theory, the reason why you want this much transparency & > process is to make sure

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:37 AM effe iets anders wrote: > Hi Danny, > > this is great thinking. There's one more angle that I'd like to offer, but > it would come with plenty of risks and downsides, so I'm not sure if it is > actually viable (I guess it falls in the 'mitigate harm' category).

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-20 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 5:24 PM Risker wrote: > > I'm less concerned about the "protected page" issue raised by SJ. There > are generally good reasons why those pages are protected. They have either > been the long- or short-term target of repeated vandalism (e.g., > biographical articles of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-20 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:04 PM Benjamin Ikuta wrote: > > > I've always thought this justification fraught with bias. > > Vandalism is highly visible: you can point to it and say it's a problem. > And it's true! > > But the *lack* of contributions is of course, by nature, invisible. > This 100%

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Give WMF feedback on model cards

2022-03-18 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:50 PM Hal Triedman wrote: > Hi all, > > The WMF Privacy and Machine Learning Platform teams are developing model > cards to increase visibility, transparency, and accountability of > algorithmic decision-making on WMF platforms. The broad goal is for every > ML model

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikipedia Library: Accessing free reliable sources is now easier than ever

2022-01-19 Thread Steven Walling
+1 to The Cunctator, this is wonderful. I used it thanks to the invite notification you sent to eligible users and it was super fast to get going. Kudos! On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:20 PM The Cunctator wrote: > This is really well done. One suggestion that's probably already been made > and may

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:40 AM Guettarda wrote: > Crypto + NFTs + {tech startup + disrupt + housing market} sounds like > *just* the kind of person WMF needs on its board! > > Luis Bitencourt-Emilio might be a great person, and just who we need on > the Board right now, but the optics seem

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming the new Wikimedia Foundation CEO

2021-09-14 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:30 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Hi Maryana, > > Welcome, great opening letter. > > You mention that you want to do some of your own volunteer editing in the > months before you officially start, which is great. > > Here is an idea: between now and then, tell absolutely no

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-07 Thread Steven Walling
Given that it’s completely trivial to make new pseudonymous accounts how would you propose even remotely accurate data collection to measure paid editing? If we are worried about the impact of paid editors on the integrity of content, we are much better served investing even more in efforts to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution about the upcoming Board elections

2021-04-25 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 12:47 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:35 AM Steven Walling > wrote: > > So I don’t think your point is the highest priority item compared to > deciding the > > election / appointment for all the rest of the seats. > > I agre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution about the upcoming Board elections

2021-04-25 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 4:24 PM Luis Villa wrote: > This looks like a very thoughtful start on a very thorny problem, well > done. > > Given that we’re trying to diversify the board, and that Jimmy has > recently criticized FSF for having lifetime board appointments for > founders,* I was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Steven Walling
necessary, although other chapters aren’t as > > technologically developed as I’d have liked to have seen. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > On 30 Sep 2020, at 19:35, Steven Walling > > wrote: > > > > > > SJ hinted at a related problem w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Steven Walling
SJ hinted at a related problem which is that we'd also need a backup organizational structure to run things operationally and legally. If the US becomes so politically unstable that hosting Wikimedia data is under threat there, just moving the data would not be enough. You'd also have to include a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Summary of the Brand Project presentation

2020-04-22 Thread Steven Walling
I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Fæ as well. Having been on the inside at some companies that underwent controversial rebrands, I can see how this might be a very early stage thing to help guide and shape thinking about how to approach a rebrand by unifying around a high level

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Partial blocks update

2019-09-19 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:09 PM Sydney Poore wrote: > Hello all, > > The Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is wrapping up > improvements > to Special:Block that added the ability to set a Partial block > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] America may go bizarro, but Wikipedia has a choice to make

2019-01-08 Thread Steven Walling
Great question to think about for our long term sustainability. I think we already have a universal "plan B" however? It's providing all content under free licenses and regularly distributing complete dumps of our content. Many larger and more well-funded technology organizations (Google,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apple Pay donations

2016-11-15 Thread Steven Walling
> > And thanks, Amir, for selecting us for Amazon Smile! > > Best, > > Lisa Gruwell > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 4:06 AM, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote: > > > On 15/11/16 02:12, Steven Walling wrote: > > > > > >> Given th

[Wikimedia-l] Apple Pay donations

2016-11-14 Thread Steven Walling
Hey all, Today Apple announced a bunch of 501(c)3 partners which now can use Apple Pay to make instant donations. Announcement at: http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/11/a-touch-of-giving-with-apple-pay.html Does WMF fundraising have plans to integrate with Apple Pay, especially on mobile

Re: [Wikimedia-l] With my thanks to everyone ...

2016-07-13 Thread Steven Walling
Congrats on the new role Geoff, and thank you so much for your leadership over the last half-decade. You have been a huge asset to the movement, and will be sorely missed. On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 3:29 PM Olatunde Isaac wrote: > Thanks for your impeccable service,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Campaigns extension / ServerSideAccountCreation log - does anyone still use it?

2016-05-31 Thread Steven Walling
Hey Brad, That sounds fine to me. We previously used the loginCTA campaign to measure the value of that secondary button on the login page ( ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwiki_campaigns) but it doesn't need to happen on an ongoing basis. On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:31 AM Brad Jorsch (Anomie)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] "Among mobile sites, Wikipedia reigns in terms of popularity"

2016-05-11 Thread Steven Walling
It's really great to see Wikipedia highlighted as a source for news and current events. It's rare that people fully recognize the degree to which the "encyclopedia" is actually very good at trending news information. That said, the report paints a rosy picture that, strategically speaking, may not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-06 Thread Steven Walling
Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk. Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation over these years. Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial governance of the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been deeply important to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Steven Walling
Pine, Given that the way James and the Board should relate to staff was one issue that lead to his removal, the situation in the wider WMF as an organization is highly relevant here. Under normal, smoothly-functioning circumstances (and most of my 4 year tenure at WMF) there was little reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

2015-12-01 Thread Steven Walling
This is really cool! Congrats to everyone who worked on this. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:51 PM Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > (cross-posting from wikitech-l) > > Today we published an announcement on the Wikimedia blog marking the > official launch of revision scoring as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] internet-in-a-boxs to the refugee camps?

2015-09-09 Thread Steven Walling
Offline access is a nice idea, but the logistics of delivery seem daunting. Thankfully, a large number of refugees and migrants have smartphones.[1] Probably the biggest ways we could help refugees are really to: A) make Wikipedia super performant on mobile, particularly for low-end Android

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-08 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:58 PM Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Questions: What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at its current location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated for the remodel by the building owner? I hope that WMF is contemplating fully

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 AM Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Steven Walling has written an interesting answer on Quora about one aspect of the New York Times op-ed, i.e. the threat NSA surveillance supposedly poses to Wikipedians living under oppressive regimes: https

[Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Steven Walling
I just noticed a disturbing trend on Commons that highlights a general issue with its use as the media repository for our projects. I recently had an image nominated for deletion under Commons policy against photos of packaging: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:PACKAGING. It was of some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Steven Walling
. There's nothing more to say. Russavia On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed a disturbing trend on Commons that highlights a general issue with its use as the media repository for our projects. I recently had an image nominated

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu Dec 11 2014 at 12:40:09 PM Pipo Le Clown plecl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on the road every two weekends, and processing pictures the rest of the time on my free time. I've provided around 8000 pictures to Commons, and helped to have pictures for articles like Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] thank vs. like

2014-10-26 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun Oct 26 2014 at 12:45:55 PM Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a discussion about the Thanks feature, which raises the following confusion among other things: Why does the person who is sending the thank-you gets a message saying $1 was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endless drama around solutions to non-problems as misdirection

2014-09-07 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:54 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Steven Walling wrote: ... We practically can't and don't take on initiatives that directly try to provide more free time or money to editors That is absolutely false. Individual Engagement Grants have recently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the WMF should stop focusing on English Wikipedia as a target deploy site, and stop allowing its product management team and WMF staff in general to be salesman for it - it is scaring the community that all WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-24 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a list somewhere of all currently active Foundation initiatives for attracting and retaining active editors? I am only aware of the one project, Task Recommendations, to try to encourage editors who have made a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-21 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Or, have them filled from Wikidata. Then, {{Infobox}} would be all the wikitext you need. This could also help to abstract infoboxes to load a placeholder/hint on mobile, then loading the box on request

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-06 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hm. Garfield is the closest person I know in the Foundation to the FDC in its role of evaluating the Foundation's Annual Plan for the entire organization. The only other people I can think of who might be able to comment for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Theoretical overlap, perhaps. People in the role of Community Liaison, Product Development and Strategic Change Management, a title Orwell would be proud of, are not doing what's being described in this e-mail. The current

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: MzMcbride, I'm not sure that WMF is overstaffed, but I would like to see more specific performance metrics for some groups. The FDC commented on this as well and I hope WMF is taking that to heart. I'm pinging Garfield for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: There is a post on the blog saying that bitcoin is accepted but there are several questions about why WMF is asking for contact info. Is that an IRS requirement? Might want to post the reason in the blog entry. AFAIK with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board approval of the FDC's 2013-2014 Round 2 recommendations

2014-06-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends in the Wikimedia community, After meeting face-to-face in May to deliberate on the four proposals they received for the 2013-2014 Round 2 annual plan grants, the Funds Dissemination Committee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board approval of the FDC's 2013-2014 Round 2 recommendations

2014-06-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patricio, I have a question about something in the software development portion of the FDC recommendations regarding the Wikimedia Foundation proposal. In that, it says The effectiveness of persona-based

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please be considerate of everyone's time.

2014-06-16 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:22 AM, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: Could I ask if there are any plans by WMF to address some of the content problems in Wikipedia? Pretty much any article in my specialist area (which is actually not all that specialist) has serious problems - gross factual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-04 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any thought of making metrics updates more machine-readable, exposing data/metrics/timelines? Right now the excellent data is flattened into slides, and then further flattened into a single pdf. If anyone is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

2014-05-23 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Thanks, Edward! I was starting to worry that no one would ask. I participate on WO because I think every voice deserves to be heard. And I will go wherever people feel comfortable speaking freely to hear them. Some of us feel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

2014-04-21 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On the software side, we have Ubuntu Linux (itself highly indebted to Debian) / Apache / MariaDB / PHP / Varnish / ElasticSearch / memcached / Puppet / OpenStack / various libraries and many other dependencies [2],

Re: [Wikimedia-l] neologisms

2014-04-08 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:35 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: What does productize mean in the context of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Growth_Quarterly_Review_(February_2014).pdf ? Sorry for the jargon. We try to avoid tech industry terminology in public communication but

[Wikimedia-l] Updating the typography on all Wikimedia sites

2014-03-26 Thread Steven Walling
/ -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More new editors?

2014-03-07 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: TLDR:transform the thank you campaign after the fundraising in a Thank you campaign: became an editor We've tried this before and so far it hasn't worked very well. See results from 2012-13 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a group, and COI to an edit

2014-02-23 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way: 1. it should knows groups 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile 3. allow to select one of the groups joined to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-23 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote: What about having the Reasonator sit in the Draft namespace, with a link from the search results or the text preloaded for non-existing pages in the main namespace? Daniel It is still far too early to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not entirely certain it's a good idea to technologize such very basic user interactions. It takes as much work to thank someone using notifications as it does to leave them a talk page message. That's empirically not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, guys. I certainly would take a talk page message over a mechanical thank any day of the week. More particularly, I notice a significant trend in using thank notifications to express agreement with people without

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread Steven Walling
I really really wish we could thanks IPs too. It sucks to treat them like second class citizens. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Something like the new message orange bar :) I guess that designers and Growth people may know an answer, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Odder has published a fantastic blog piece at http://twkozlowski.net/paid-editing-thrives-in-the-heart-of-wikipedia/ in which it is revealed that a WMF employee is engaged in undeclared paid editing on English

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:17 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: As Peter just said, there is no risk if WMF converts bitcoin donations to USD immediately. Uh... except that because Bitcoin is not a regulated currency, it's value has the potential to fluctuate wildly, and seems to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-12 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: * Our peers like EFF, and Internet archive accept it To be totally honest, I think this is moot. Support for bitcoin among these two organizations has hardly been a ringing endorsement. In the past, EFF has rejected it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which Wikipedias have had large scale bot creation of articles this year?

2013-11-28 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hopefully your research does not conclude this is a good idea; I had been contacted to create such bots multiple times in the past. I had declined such queries, as the need in automating this means inefficiency in manual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which Wikipedias have had large scale bot creation of articles this year?

2013-11-28 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, What qualifies as many? On ro.wp, Andrebot is creating sections of articles about the population of villages/communes in Bulgaria, Hungary and Croatia, also creating articles where they do not exist. That will

[Wikimedia-l] Which Wikipedias have had large scale bot creation of articles this year?

2013-11-25 Thread Steven Walling
in particular, since as a team we only have extensive experience creating articles on enwiki. Many thanks, -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_article_creation 2. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-22 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Typo correction and vandalism reversion are certainly both entries to editing, and it isn't just anti-vandalism where the opportunities have declined in recent years. Typos are getting harder to find,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: The Wikimedia Foundation needs to wake up and deal with the real tech elephant in the room. Our primary issue is not a lack of FLOW, a lack of a visual editor, or a lack of a rapidly expanding education program. Our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Annual Plan for 2013-14

2013-11-09 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@wikimediadc.org wrote: Hello everyone, Wikimedia DC has released its Annual Plan for 2013-14. The plan can be found on our wiki at http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_plan_(2013–2014); a copy will also be posted on meta shortly.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikimedia-related contributor Kickstarter?

2013-11-01 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: A post is live on Gizmodo today about a Commons contributor (Evan-Amos) who takes high quality photos of video game systems and hardware.[1] Towards the end it mentions that Evan started a Kickstarter to fund his efforts to buy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

2013-10-16 Thread Steven Walling
room for individual users potentially setting their default edit mode to one or the other, reduces extra button clutter, etc. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] When was the first edit-a-thon(s)?

2013-10-16 Thread Steven Walling
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013, Sarah Stierch wrote: Hi everyone, I've asked a question on the new Program Evaluation Design portal about when people think the first edit-a-thons took place. (Or the very first, if we know!) It would be great to have your input on meta:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile image upload

2013-08-25 Thread Steven Walling
On Sunday, August 25, 2013, James Heilman wrote: Mobile image upload is a huge plus thus thanks to all who made it happen. It is allowing those who might not otherwise have be able to get involved to do so. Just saw this image come in through the mobile site

[Wikimedia-l] Questions for the Board post-Wikimania

2013-08-14 Thread Steven Walling
? There are several other excellent questions posted on-wiki as well. I know people are still traveling and likely jet-lagged even if they're home, so I am in no huge hurry to get an answer. Thanks to the Board in advance. :-) -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ 1. https://wikimania2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-08-01 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Kevin Wayne Williams kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com wrote: If you had followed that, and understood that the Minimum Viable Product included cut-and-paste, table editing, and maybe the ability to successfully and completely edit the hundred or so most edited

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: de:wp convinced you. What would it take to convince you on en:wp? (I'm asking for a clear objective criterion here. If you can only offer a subjective one, please explain how de:wp convinced you when en:wp hasn't.)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: OK - so why were those people listened to on de:wp? What happened there that they convinced you? If you're replying to me... this is why I said I wasn't speaking for the VE team. I didn't make that call. :) Steven

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates on VE data analysis

2013-07-26 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:52 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Do you intend to measure the total number of edits per day prior to and after the visual editor roll-out? It appears that you have not analyzed or presented any data associated with those statistics. We run A/B tests

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Anyway, being able to disband the SF office as regards software development (and perhaps more), and switch to remote work only, would probably be the single most effective measure for enhancing communication and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners

2013-07-17 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.orgwrote: In my view, this whole argument would provide reason to: 1.) Only use a third party video option sparingly, as-needed until there are better open-source video options to use. 2.) Put more resources into open source

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

2013-07-11 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: On July 11th at the next WMF Metrics Activities meeting, myself, Erik Möller, Howie Fung, Maryana Pinchuk, and Dario Taraborelli are going

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

2013-07-05 Thread Steven Walling
user on ptwiki last year, I am not surprised at all that we attracted many more positive contributions just by removing it. Sadly, from looking at bug 49860 and gerrit change 69982, it seems that this deeply annoying feature is going to be put back in place. -- Steven Walling https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

2013-06-25 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: 1) I'm confused: first you ask about community initiatives then you list activities by chapters and the like. Community initiative makes me think of edit drives, custom tools and scripts, processes, guidelines,

[Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

2013-06-22 Thread Steven Walling
, such as this year's fashion edit-a-thon put together by Wikimedia Sverige. What am I missing from this list? -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-06 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: That's amazing! This is the now-closed office hours calendar, which I think was run by someone in WMF (but I could be wrong):

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New designs for account creation and login rolling out gradually to all projects

2013-06-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.orgwrote: The remaining projects we have held off on because there are localizations still to be completed (on translatewiki) or there are problems with localizations already finished. Since the work of localizations is never

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New designs for account creation and login rolling out gradually to all projects

2013-05-29 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.orgwrote: - Wikipedia in 21 languages, including English, German, French, Italian, Polish, Dutch, Chinese, Hebrew, Arabic, Korean, Czech, Swedish, and others. - In English: Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikinews

[Wikimedia-l] New designs for account creation and login rolling out gradually to all projects

2013-05-28 Thread Steven Walling
the method mentioned in the two links below... 1. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/try-new-login-accountcreation/ 2. mediawiki.org/wiki/Account_creation_user_experience/Testing -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ P.S. Sorry if there are odd linebreaks in this message. Has anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Steven Walling
On Sunday, April 28, 2013, Risker wrote: I'd actually suggest the opposite: That the only people eligible to vote for the three elected seats be active participants within the Wikimedia projects. That would drop the staff/contractor and advisory board eligibility. Alternately, let's make

[Wikimedia-l] New account creation and login ready for testing on all projects

2013-04-25 Thread Steven Walling
of posting locally to Village Pumps as well, targeting the top ten Wikipedias and the English version of all other projects. Help spread the word if you can. :) -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ 1. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/try-new-login-accountcreation/ 2. https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New account creation and login ready for testing on all projects

2013-04-25 Thread Steven Walling
-accountcreation/ On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, Today the Editor Engagement Experiments team has ported our new designs for account creation and login to the current version of MediaWiki core, meaning it is now available for testing

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