Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-14 Thread Pharos
I don't have technical expertise in this area, but I do think something chat-like has the most chance of success. Telegram seems to be the most active platform now among non-technical users, especially used during conferences. Perhaps a much better integration with IRC (with a Slack-like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-14 Thread Quim Gil
Hi Sylvain! (Let me add the disclaimer that opinions are mine and don't represent the views of the Foundation.) On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:33 PM Sylvain Boissel < sylvain.bois...@wikimedia.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > It may have changed since I last checked (a bit more than a year ago), but > while

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-10 Thread Sylvain Boissel
Hello, 2018-08-10 11:19 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil : > Mathieu, thank you for your research and for connecting so many dots. > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz < > psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > > > Although Mastodon doesn't seem to be what I was looking for at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
Mathieu, thank you for your research and for connecting so many dots. On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Although Mastodon doesn't seem to be what I was looking for at start, I do > think it would be great to launch a Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-09 Thread masti
You forgot Discord https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software) that used to be a voice app but has a very nice text feauters also masti On 09.08.2018 06:40, mathieu lovato stumpf guntz wrote: Hello, Following a discussion on a Wikisource Telegram group, I searched a bit about mastodon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-09 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > - Matrix http://matrix.org/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(communication_protocol) > > > My experience with the two

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-08 Thread mathieu lovato stumpf guntz
Hello, Following a discussion on a Wikisource Telegram group, I searched a bit about mastodon and Wikimedia, and I found back this current thread[1] as well as the following - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198363   - pointing to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-12 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 10/04/2018 à 11:03, David Cuenca Tudela a écrit : Regarding the question if the WMF should build a social network for the masses, I don't think it should. A general purpose social network is mainly used for sharing personal events, viral stories, cat pictures, and so on. It does not offer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-11 Thread Quim Gil
(These are personal opinions based on my own personal interest in free and volunteer-driven social networks, not an opinion as a WMF member.) On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Hi, > > I have been looking for social networking service that would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Leinonen Teemu
> On 10 Apr 2018, at 9.58, Michael Snow wrote: > > On 4/9/2018 11:14 PM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: >>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 7.02, Erik Moeller wrote: >>> Wikimedia projects are social networks, but they are purpose-driven >>> social networks [1] where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Edward Saperia
g/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Leinonen Teemu > Sent: 09 April 2018 09:46 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social netw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Yury Bulka
If we want to improve the situation, I think one of the simplest things to do would be to increase the presence of WMF and Wikipedia on the Federation and Fediverse networks-of-networks. For a start, we could just be cross-posting from the WMF blog officially. And I don't think we need a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Gnangarra
what i see is that developing a full FB type network is outside the current scope and capacity of the movement and will probably remain there. There is always room for further development of tools for user and talk pages the will enhance collaborative activities. I also think that at some stage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Unlike Erik, I don't think an open alternative to Facebook will emerge, the inertia at this point is too big and you would need a huge critical mass of people (and organizations) to make it useful. Hard to attain. The only contender on the long run to FB could be reddit, because they seem to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Michael Snow
On 4/9/2018 11:14 PM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: On 10 Apr 2018, at 7.02, Erik Moeller wrote: Wikimedia projects are social networks, but they are purpose-driven social networks [1] where participants are more strongly connected through their overlapping interests than through

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread Leinonen Teemu
> On 10 Apr 2018, at 7.02, Erik Moeller wrote: > Wikimedia projects are social networks, but they are purpose-driven > social networks [1] where participants are more strongly connected > through their overlapping interests than through pre-existing social > connections. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Peter Southwood
? -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Leinonen Teemu Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 9:25 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ? On 9 Apr 2018, at 11.28

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not > abusing > personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, > free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Leinonen Teemu
mu Sent: 09 April 2018 09:46 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ? Hi, I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Peter Southwood
List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ? Hi, I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-09 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Hi, I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many. The Diaspora* Project[1] is not moving forward very fast and the Mastodon[2] is