Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
Having read this, I think you girls should start a RFC on English Wikipedia
highlighting this issue, and may be many would agree to have a point added
to WP:Deletion Policy (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy) or at least at
Wikipedia:NPP#Be nice to the newbies (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP#Be_nice_to_the_newbies) and
even Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers
Also you may raise this issue at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap.
It's a possibility others may have been raised this issue already, and you
can join the discussion.
Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female
editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't
visit userpages.
A solution could be to add a new gadget like markAdmins, which works like
this
http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6636985curid=6466221action=history
I don't know if it is possible technically.
But if we could add a similar gadget and if they like to reveal their
gender, then it'd be easy.
Just my thought, many would find it extra burden. But you may go ahead and
give it a try.
Regards,
Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um*
*
On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote:
A very good read and truly written.
Regards,
Swetapadma
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
wikipedians mentioned in the article.
Interesting to note the article mention the following...
*When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
male-dominated world of code.
*
Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
the pages down. Or is it the case of experienced editors being less
tolerant and not encouraging to most new editors irrespective of their
gender. I believe it more often than not the second.
To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another
Women's
Wikipedia
workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash was working with a new lady
editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini
Nayakhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak.
This was being shown on a projector for the rest of the lady participants
to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
Speedy Delete notice on a page that had no grounds for it. At best one
could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.
We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time
getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know
we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful to not project
this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may
not be the case).
Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
too).
For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised
by many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!
We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
and to be careful not to
*Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
{{this is a new
userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
}} that new users can sport on their user pages.
Have a good weekend everyone!
regards
Arun
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana
t...@cscs.res.inwrote:
Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true
--
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Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)
t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
f: 91-80-26730722
http://heira.in
www.cscs.res.in
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[Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear all, I take immense pleasure in (re)introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja to the entire Wikimedia community! Dr. Pavanaja has joined the Access to Knowledge team at CIS as a consultant from March 4 onward. Those associated with Indian language computing and especially that in Kannada may know him already for having started the first Kannada website: Vishvakannada.com, the first Kannada online magazine, the first Indian language (Kannada) website to receive Golden Web Award, the first Indian language (Kannada) editor for Palm OS and many more firsts. Dr. Pavanaja holds a Master's degree from Mysore University and Ph.D. from Mumbai University. He was a scientist at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Mumbai, for about 15 years and has done advanced research in Taiwan. He resigned from BARC in 1997 and dedicated himself fully for the cause of Computer and Indian languages. You could read more about his contributions here [1]. Prior to this he has also worked at Microsoft Research Labs and has been a long time contributor to Kannada Wikipedia. We are very fortunate to have him on board. You can reach him at pavanaja [at] cis-india [dot] org. Please join me in welcoming him to our community :) Thank you, Noopur Links: -- [1] http://cis-india.org/openness/blog/pavanaja-profile.pdf ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM, noopur noo...@cis-india.org wrote: I take immense pleasure in (re)introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja to the entire Wikimedia community! Dr. Pavanaja has joined the Access to Knowledge team at CIS as a consultant from March 4 onward. This is good news. What would be the areas on which Dr Pavanaja is expected to provide guidance? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
hi, Welcome Pavanaja. All the best in your endeavours! I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 From: noopur noo...@cis-india.org To: Wikimediaindia l wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013 3:08 PM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages Dear all, I take immense pleasure in (re)introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja to the entire Wikimedia community! Dr. Pavanaja has joined the Access to Knowledge team at CIS as a consultant from March 4 onward. Those associated with Indian language computing and especially that in Kannada may know him already for having started the first Kannada website: Vishvakannada.com, the first Kannada online magazine, the first Indian language (Kannada) website to receive Golden Web Award, the first Indian language (Kannada) editor for Palm OS and many more firsts. Dr. Pavanaja holds a Master’s degree from Mysore University and Ph.D. from Mumbai University. He was a scientist at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Mumbai, for about 15 years and has done advanced research in Taiwan. He resigned from BARC in 1997 and dedicated himself fully for the cause of Computer and Indian languages. You could read more about his contributions here. Prior to this he has also worked at Microsoft Research Labs and has been a long time contributor to Kannada Wikipedia. We are very fortunate to have him on board. You can reach him at pavanaja [at] cis-india [dot] org. Please join me in welcoming him to our community :) Thank you, Noopur ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Welcome Pavanaja! Good to have someone like you join the wikimedia movement. regards Arun On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM, noopur noo...@cis-india.org wrote: ** Dear all, I take immense pleasure in (re)introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja to the entire Wikimedia community! Dr. Pavanaja has joined the Access to Knowledge team at CIS as a consultant from March 4 onward. Those associated with Indian language computing and especially that in Kannada may know him already for having started the first Kannada website: Vishvakannada.com, the first Kannada online magazine, the first Indian language (Kannada) website to receive Golden Web Award, the first Indian language (Kannada) editor for Palm OS and many more firsts. Dr. Pavanaja holds a Master’s degree from Mysore University and Ph.D. from Mumbai University. He was a scientist at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Mumbai, for about 15 years and has done advanced research in Taiwan. He resigned from BARC in 1997 and dedicated himself fully for the cause of Computer and Indian languages. You could read more about his contributions here http://cis-india.org/openness/blog/pavanaja-profile.pdf. Prior to this he has also worked at Microsoft Research Labs and has been a long time contributor to Kannada Wikipedia. We are very fortunate to have him on board. You can reach him at pavanaja [at] cis-india [dot] org. Please join me in welcoming him to our community :) Thank you, Noopur ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Sankarshan, Thank you for your wishes. Pavanaja has joined the CIS-A2K team as the Programme Officer, which was left vacant by Shiju Alex few months ago. He will be a key point of contact for the expansion and growth of Kannada Wikipedia within the team. We are glad to have his huge network and experience that would immensely benefit Kannada Wikipedia. In addition to this his job profile would include the following: • Design assist in the roll-out PR / digital outreach plan(s) to promote Indic language readers readership • Design roll-out PR/on-ground outreach plan(s) to promote Indic language editors and contribution • Assist WMF in rolling out and training the Online Ambassadors for Indic language Wikipedia. • Co-ordinate with WMF to provide technical solutions to resolve current ( potential) issues on Indic languages • Providing ad hoc support to the Community on all aspects of Indic languages as may be deemed necessary. • Any other services as required by your supervisor (Programme Director – A2K Programme) and the Executive Director of CIS in connection with the grant from Wikimedia Foundation. Best regards, Vishnu On 10 March 2013 15:16, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM, noopur noo...@cis-india.org wrote: I take immense pleasure in (re)introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja to the entire Wikimedia community! Dr. Pavanaja has joined the Access to Knowledge team at CIS as a consultant from March 4 onward. This is good news. What would be the areas on which Dr Pavanaja is expected to provide guidance? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: • Design assist in the roll-out PR / digital outreach plan(s) to promote Indic language readers readership • Design roll-out PR/on-ground outreach plan(s) to promote Indic language editors and contribution • Assist WMF in rolling out and training the Online Ambassadors for Indic language Wikipedia. • Co-ordinate with WMF to provide technical solutions to resolve current ( potential) issues on Indic languages • Providing ad hoc support to the Community on all aspects of Indic languages as may be deemed necessary. • Any other services as required by your supervisor (Programme Director – A2K Programme) and the Executive Director of CIS in connection with the grant from Wikimedia Foundation. These look fantastic. I'm assuming that these tie in with the plans you had posted (under the pseudonym, during the election phase). Can I impose on your graciousness and ask a bit more about the Online Ambassadors for Indic Language Wikipedia? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Pradeep, Thank you for your wishes. We are indeed happy to have Pavanaja join the CIS-A2K team. I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. Thanks for pointing this out, Pradeep. I have checked CIS Archives. This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Bulletin to various mailing lists in January 2013. Here is the link http://cis-india.org/about/newsletters/january-2013-bulletin . Unfortunately, we have missed posting this on the WMI mailing list. Sincere apologies for this mistake. We will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. As a step in this direction, will alert CIS's Publication Manager (who puts together all the newsletters and Bulletins) to post all such information on the WMI list without fail. Warmly, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
hi Vishnu, Was this sent to ANY Wikipedia list, at all, out of curiosity? warm regards, Pradeep Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 From: Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com To: Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com; Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages Dear Pradeep, Thank you for your wishes. We are indeed happy to have Pavanaja join the CIS-A2K team. I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. Thanks for pointing this out, Pradeep. I have checked CIS Archives. This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Bulletin to various mailing lists in January 2013. Here is the link http://cis-india.org/about/newsletters/january-2013-bulletin . Unfortunately, we have missed posting this on the WMI mailing list. Sincere apologies for this mistake. We will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. As a step in this direction, will alert CIS's Publication Manager (who puts together all the newsletters and Bulletins) to post all such information on the WMI list without fail. Warmly, Vishnu___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
Dear Ansuman,
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Also you may raise this issue at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap.
It's a possibility others may have been raised this issue already, and you
can join the discussion.
Just a thought.
The point I was making in my post was that this was perhaps not gender
specific. It seems to happen to many new editors. Let us please not
generalize this and make this gender bias. This issue is a case of lack of
sensitivity to new editors.
Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female
editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't
visit userpages.
Also why should one need to recognize the gender of a user? Extending
courtesies or extending a helpful hand to new editor surely has nothing to
do with the gender of an editor. It should apply to all new editors.
From my interactions in a few workshops related to bridge gender gaps, most
women dont want any special treatment, they just want a fair take at things
like anyone else.
Best regards
Arun
On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote:
A very good read and truly written.
Regards,
Swetapadma
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam
arunra...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
wikipedians mentioned in the article.
Interesting to note the article mention the following...
*When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
male-dominated world of code.
*
Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors
pulling the pages down. Or is it the case of experienced editors being
less tolerant and not encouraging to most new editors irrespective of
their gender. I believe it more often than not the second.
To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another
Women's
Wikipedia
workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash was working with a new lady
editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini
Nayak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak. This was being
shown on a projector for the rest of the lady participants to watch and
learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a Speedy
Delete notice on a page that had no grounds for it. At best one could
Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.
We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time
getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know
we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful to not project
this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may
not be the case).
Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
too).
For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised
by many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!
We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
and to be careful not to
*Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
{{this is a new
userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
}} that new users can sport on their user pages.
Have a good weekend everyone!
regards
Arun
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana
t...@cscs.res.inwrote:
Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true
--
Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)
t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
f: 91-80-26730722
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www.cscs.res.in
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Vishnu, Is there any further hiring planned for the A2K team? regards Arun On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.comwrote: hi Vishnu, Was this sent to ANY Wikipedia list, at all, out of curiosity? warm regards, Pradeep Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 -- *From:* Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com *To:* Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com; Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Cc:* wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Sunday, 10 March 2013 5:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages Dear Pradeep, Thank you for your wishes. We are indeed happy to have Pavanaja join the CIS-A2K team. I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. Thanks for pointing this out, Pradeep. I have checked CIS Archives. This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Bulletin to various mailing lists in January 2013. Here is the link http://cis-india.org/about/newsletters/january-2013-bulletin . Unfortunately, we have missed posting this on the WMI mailing list. Sincere apologies for this mistake. We will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. As a step in this direction, will alert CIS's Publication Manager (who puts together all the newsletters and Bulletins) to post all such information on the WMI list without fail. Warmly, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
Hi Arun,
Re: The para in italics in your mail. I agree with you that the dynamics
probably had to do with experienced editors vs. newbies, but if the former
were perceived as 'males' that tells me something about who the experienced
editors are!
To put a positive spin on it, maybe there are lots of newbies out there who
happen to be women - so they need to be encouraged along with the other
newcomers.
Glad to hear about the women's workshop which had so many of you
'supportive men'. May your tribe increase.
I will pass around the information about the new user tag. That's a very
useful point.
Tejaswini
On 10 March 2013 11:34, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
wikipedians mentioned in the article.
Interesting to note the article mention the following...
*When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
male-dominated world of code.
*
Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
the pages down. Or is it the case of experienced editors being less
tolerant and not encouraging to most new editors irrespective of their
gender. I believe it more often than not the second.
To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another
Women's
Wikipedia
workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash was working with a new lady
editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini
Nayakhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak.
This was being shown on a projector for the rest of the lady participants
to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
Speedy Delete notice on a page that had no grounds for it. At best one
could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.
We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting
on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have
very few women editors. But we ought to be careful to not project this as
a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the
case).
Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
too).
For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised by
many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!
We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
and to be careful not to
*Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
{{this is a new userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
}} that new users can sport on their user pages.
Have a good weekend everyone!
regards
Arun
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote:
Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true
--
Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)
t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
f: 91-80-26730722
http://heira.in
www.cscs.res.in
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
Hi Ansuman,
The gender gap link provides useful information about the kinds of projects
people are working on. Thanks for pointing it out.
Not sure about the need to identify female editors. Increasing relevant and
gender-sensitive content whether in the Indian languages or in English
could be a task for all of us.
And yes, be nice to all newbies!
Tejaswini
On 10 March 2013 14:39, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:
Having read this, I think you girls should start a RFC on English
Wikipedia highlighting this issue, and may be many would agree to have a
point added to WP:Deletion Policy (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy) or at least at
Wikipedia:NPP#Be nice to the newbies (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP#Be_nice_to_the_newbies) and
even Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers
Also you may raise this issue at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap.
It's a possibility others may have been raised this issue already, and you
can join the discussion.
Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female
editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't
visit userpages.
A solution could be to add a new gadget like markAdmins, which works like
this
http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6636985curid=6466221action=history
I don't know if it is possible technically.
But if we could add a similar gadget and if they like to reveal their
gender, then it'd be easy.
Just my thought, many would find it extra burden. But you may go ahead and
give it a try.
Regards,
Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um*
*
On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote:
A very good read and truly written.
Regards,
Swetapadma
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam
arunra...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
wikipedians mentioned in the article.
Interesting to note the article mention the following...
*When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
male-dominated world of code.
*
Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors
pulling the pages down. Or is it the case of experienced editors being
less tolerant and not encouraging to most new editors irrespective of
their gender. I believe it more often than not the second.
To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another
Women's
Wikipedia
workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash was working with a new lady
editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini
Nayak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak. This was being
shown on a projector for the rest of the lady participants to watch and
learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a Speedy
Delete notice on a page that had no grounds for it. At best one could
Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.
We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time
getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know
we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful to not project
this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may
not be the case).
Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
too).
For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised
by many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!
We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
and to be careful not to
*Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
{{this is a new
userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
}} that new users can sport on their user pages.
Have a good weekend everyone!
regards
Arun
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana
t...@cscs.res.inwrote:
Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true
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(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Wiki meetup 5
Hi all, The event went well. Around 25 wikimedians and non-wikimedians attended the meetup. The meetup opened with an Introdcution to Openstack by Yogesh Ghttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Eternaltyroaction=editredlink=1. The Wiki part was next. Surya Prakash. S. A gave a presentation on the state of the Tamil Wiki projects. Then I introduced the Wikimedia India Chapter and its activities. There was a long question and answer session on Wikimedia's copyright policies, creative commons licenses, personality rights, notability criteria in various wiki projects. We hope to have regular meetups in Chennai in the future. For a list of attendees and photos, please see the event pages in Tamil and English Wikipedias. 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai5#Report 2) http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/2nlq regards Bala On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Chennai is having a wiki meetup after a gap of nearly one and half years on March 9, 2013 (Saturday). There will be a couple of short presentations on state of the Tamil wiki projects and an introduction of the Wikimedia India Chapter. All are welcome. If there are English or any other language wikimedians, who want to introduce / talk about their Wiki projects they are welcome to do so. (please send me a mail, so that I can plan the agenda accordingly). We will be sharing the venue and time slot with Indian Linux Users Group - Chennai (ILUGC) who are graciously helping us. People interested in open source projects can also attend the meetup. Those who are planning to attend please add your name to the meetup page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai5 Date Time : 9 March 2013, 3-6 PM (Wiki specific part starts at 4 PM) Venue : Classroom No 3, Areo Space Engineering department, Near Gajendra Circle, IIT Madras. regards Bala ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Appointment of new SIG chair
Congratulations Rohini :) On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations, Rohini! Best, Vishnu On 9 March 2013 11:45, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! Congratulations, Rohini, and look forward to more wiki women workshops and other related stuff. Best Bishakha On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Rohini!! All the best wishes to you!! Regards -Sudhanwa On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity -- those who voted for me, Krutikaa and Netha who nominated me, and the members of the EC who conducted the election process. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Heya, this is inform you that Rohini Lakshane has been appointed as the chair of the Gender-gap SIG. This was the first nomination for an SIG chair where there were other candidates, in this case Pavithra H. Rohini was nominated and seconded by Krutikaa Jawanjal and Netha Hussain, and got 20 votes in her favour, the highest in any Wikimedia India voting process, beating Karthik's record of 19 votes in September 2012. Rohini can be contacted on roh...@wikimedia.in -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups wmin-members group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to wmin-members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Omshivaprakash H L | ಓಂಶಿವಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಎಚ್.ಎಲ್ | ॐ शिवप्रकाश् एच्. एल् Kannada SIG Wikimedia India Chapter [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
Hi, I am sorry. I din't mean to make it a gender bias. I totally understand your point and I think you are right. I just thought, that way it could help. Still I think as per Gender Gap Campaign, if we discuss and make it a point on the guidelines that as we are trying to have more female wikipedians, be nice to new editors. I understand the review process should not be based on the gender. And I am not saying identifying female editors is the solution, but if they wish to reveal (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Female_Wikipedians), the community should think of something, which could help. I am not deciding anything for them. I am trying to open new ways which could help. Thanks , http://twitter.com/an5umAnsuman On 10 March 2013 18:47, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote: Hi Ansuman, The gender gap link provides useful information about the kinds of projects people are working on. Thanks for pointing it out. Not sure about the need to identify female editors. Increasing relevant and gender-sensitive content whether in the Indian languages or in English could be a task for all of us. And yes, be nice to all newbies! Tejaswini On 10 March 2013 14:39, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Having read this, I think you girls should start a RFC on English Wikipedia highlighting this issue, and may be many would agree to have a point added to WP:Deletion Policy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy) or at least at Wikipedia:NPP#Be nice to the newbies ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP#Be_nice_to_the_newbies) and even Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers Also you may raise this issue at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap. It's a possibility others may have been raised this issue already, and you can join the discussion. Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't visit userpages. A solution could be to add a new gadget like markAdmins, which works like this http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6636985curid=6466221action=history I don't know if it is possible technically. But if we could add a similar gadget and if they like to reveal their gender, then it'd be easy. Just my thought, many would find it extra burden. But you may go ahead and give it a try. Regards, Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um* * On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote: A very good read and truly written. Regards, Swetapadma On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see wikipedians mentioned in the article. Interesting to note the article mention the following... *When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a male-dominated world of code. * Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling the pages down. Or is it the case of experienced editors being less tolerant and not encouraging to most new editors irrespective of their gender. I believe it more often than not the second. To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another Women's Wikipedia workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash was working with a new lady editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini Nayak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak. This was being shown on a projector for the rest of the lady participants to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a Speedy Delete notice on a page that had no grounds for it. At best one could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability. We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful to not project this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the case). Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media too). For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised by many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om, Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra! We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive and to be careful not to
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Wiki meetup 5
Glad to know, thanks for sharing. :-) Regards, Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um *ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ http://or.wikipedia.org/* On 10 March 2013 20:07, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The event went well. Around 25 wikimedians and non-wikimedians attended the meetup. The meetup opened with an Introdcution to Openstack by Yogesh Ghttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Eternaltyroaction=editredlink=1. The Wiki part was next. Surya Prakash. S. A gave a presentation on the state of the Tamil Wiki projects. Then I introduced the Wikimedia India Chapter and its activities. There was a long question and answer session on Wikimedia's copyright policies, creative commons licenses, personality rights, notability criteria in various wiki projects. We hope to have regular meetups in Chennai in the future. For a list of attendees and photos, please see the event pages in Tamil and English Wikipedias. 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai5#Report 2) http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/2nlq regards Bala On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Chennai is having a wiki meetup after a gap of nearly one and half years on March 9, 2013 (Saturday). There will be a couple of short presentations on state of the Tamil wiki projects and an introduction of the Wikimedia India Chapter. All are welcome. If there are English or any other language wikimedians, who want to introduce / talk about their Wiki projects they are welcome to do so. (please send me a mail, so that I can plan the agenda accordingly). We will be sharing the venue and time slot with Indian Linux Users Group - Chennai (ILUGC) who are graciously helping us. People interested in open source projects can also attend the meetup. Those who are planning to attend please add your name to the meetup page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai5 Date Time : 9 March 2013, 3-6 PM (Wiki specific part starts at 4 PM) Venue : Classroom No 3, Areo Space Engineering department, Near Gajendra Circle, IIT Madras. regards Bala ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Congrats, Dr. Pavan . . . Wish you the best, always. Regards, Ade. S On 10 March 2013 15:08, noopur noo...@cis-india.org wrote: ** Dear all, I take immense pleasure in (re)introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja to the entire Wikimedia community! Dr. Pavanaja has joined the Access to Knowledge team at CIS as a consultant from March 4 onward. Those associated with Indian language computing and especially that in Kannada may know him already for having started the first Kannada website: Vishvakannada.com, the first Kannada online magazine, the first Indian language (Kannada) website to receive Golden Web Award, the first Indian language (Kannada) editor for Palm OS and many more firsts. Dr. Pavanaja holds a Master’s degree from Mysore University and Ph.D. from Mumbai University. He was a scientist at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Mumbai, for about 15 years and has done advanced research in Taiwan. He resigned from BARC in 1997 and dedicated himself fully for the cause of Computer and Indian languages. You could read more about his contributions here http://cis-india.org/openness/blog/pavanaja-profile.pdf. Prior to this he has also worked at Microsoft Research Labs and has been a long time contributor to Kannada Wikipedia. We are very fortunate to have him on board. You can reach him at pavanaja [at] cis-india [dot] org. Please join me in welcoming him to our community :) Thank you, Noopur ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.comwrote: When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, *male editors were quick to pull them down*. “This can be intimidating for anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a male-dominated world of code. I don't understand how pages getting deleted quickly has anything to do with the gender of the editor. Yes, it's more likely that articles related to Kate Middleton's ward-robe are likely to get deleted faster than articles on esoteric distros of Linux (an example Jimmy gave earlier) but I don't see how the above assertions make any sense. It displays misunderstanding of the problem related to gender-gap (no, it's not Wikimedia-specific) and shows our projects in a bad light. Anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Hello all, I haven't seen a job announcement related to the relevant position either on the Wikimedia India (WMI?) mailing list or on any of the local mailing lists. Thanks, Anirudh On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pradeep, Thank you for your wishes. We are indeed happy to have Pavanaja join the CIS-A2K team. I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. Thanks for pointing this out, Pradeep. I have checked CIS Archives. This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Bulletin to various mailing lists in January 2013. Here is the link http://cis-india.org/about/newsletters/january-2013-bulletin . Unfortunately, we have missed posting this on the WMI mailing list. Sincere apologies for this mistake. We will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. As a step in this direction, will alert CIS's Publication Manager (who puts together all the newsletters and Bulletins) to post all such information on the WMI list without fail. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Appointment of new SIG chair
Thank you everyone for your wishes. :) On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Omshivaprakash | Wikimedia omshivaprak...@wikimedia.in wrote: Congratulations Rohini :) On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations, Rohini! Best, Vishnu On 9 March 2013 11:45, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! Congratulations, Rohini, and look forward to more wiki women workshops and other related stuff. Best Bishakha On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Rohini!! All the best wishes to you!! Regards -Sudhanwa On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity -- those who voted for me, Krutikaa and Netha who nominated me, and the members of the EC who conducted the election process. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Heya, this is inform you that Rohini Lakshane has been appointed as the chair of the Gender-gap SIG. This was the first nomination for an SIG chair where there were other candidates, in this case Pavithra H. Rohini was nominated and seconded by Krutikaa Jawanjal and Netha Hussain, and got 20 votes in her favour, the highest in any Wikimedia India voting process, beating Karthik's record of 19 votes in September 2012. Rohini can be contacted on roh...@wikimedia.in -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups wmin-members group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to wmin-members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Omshivaprakash H L | ಓಂಶಿವಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಎಚ್.ಎಲ್ | ॐ शिवप्रकाश् एच्. एल् Kannada SIG Wikimedia India Chapter [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology
Dear Nikita, The article suggests that male Wikipedia editors put down newbie female editors. Your comments, placed in conjunction with examples that speak of misogyny and sexism, show Wikipedia editors in poor light. Can you clarify if the newspaper has misquoted you? Regards, Rohini -- Chairperson (Special Interest Groups), Gendergap, Wikimedia Chapter (India) On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:02 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am sorry. I din't mean to make it a gender bias. I totally understand your point and I think you are right. I just thought, that way it could help. Still I think as per Gender Gap Campaign, if we discuss and make it a point on the guidelines that as we are trying to have more female wikipedians, be nice to new editors. I understand the review process should not be based on the gender. And I am not saying identifying female editors is the solution, but if they wish to reveal (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Female_Wikipedians), the community should think of something, which could help. I am not deciding anything for them. I am trying to open new ways which could help. Thanks , http://twitter.com/an5umAnsuman On 10 March 2013 18:47, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote: Hi Ansuman, The gender gap link provides useful information about the kinds of projects people are working on. Thanks for pointing it out. Not sure about the need to identify female editors. Increasing relevant and gender-sensitive content whether in the Indian languages or in English could be a task for all of us. And yes, be nice to all newbies! Tejaswini On 10 March 2013 14:39, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Having read this, I think you girls should start a RFC on English Wikipedia highlighting this issue, and may be many would agree to have a point added to WP:Deletion Policy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy) or at least at Wikipedia:NPP#Be nice to the newbies ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP#Be_nice_to_the_newbies) and even Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers Also you may raise this issue at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap. It's a possibility others may have been raised this issue already, and you can join the discussion. Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't visit userpages. A solution could be to add a new gadget like markAdmins, which works like this http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6636985curid=6466221action=history I don't know if it is possible technically. But if we could add a similar gadget and if they like to reveal their gender, then it'd be easy. Just my thought, many would find it extra burden. But you may go ahead and give it a try. Regards, Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um* * On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote: A very good read and truly written. Regards, Swetapadma On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see wikipedians mentioned in the article. Interesting to note the article mention the following... *When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a male-dominated world of code. * Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling the pages down. Or is it the case of experienced editors being less tolerant and not encouraging to most new editors irrespective of their gender. I believe it more often than not the second. To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another Women's Wikipedia workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash was working with a new lady editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini Nayak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak. This was being shown on a projector for the rest of the lady participants to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a Speedy Delete notice on a page that had no grounds for it. At best one could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability. We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful to not project this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the case). Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Sankarshan, On 10 March 2013 17:41, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: • Assist WMF in rolling out and training the Online Ambassadors for Indic language Wikipedia. Can I impose on your graciousness and ask a bit more about the Online Ambassadors for Indic Language Wikipedia? As we understand, this would primarily include nurturing local talent that can help and support the Indian Language Wiki communities on orienting people towards Media Wiki, fix bugs, troubleshoot tech related issues, input methods, OCR etc. The intention is to build strong and effective local interfaces to the various Global developments. Please do suggest if you would like to focus on anything else. Thanks, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Pradeep, Only the A2K Newsletter goes to the WMI and various other mailing lists and not the overall CIS Newsletter (in which this was announced). As mentioned earlier, there was an oversight on our part to not have included this in the January Bulletin. Apologies again. We will ensure not to repeat this. Warmly, Vishnu On 10 March 2013 17:53, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com wrote: hi Vishnu, Was this sent to ANY Wikipedia list, at all, out of curiosity? warm regards, Pradeep Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 -- *From:* Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com *To:* Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com; Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Cc:* wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Sunday, 10 March 2013 5:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages Dear Pradeep, Thank you for your wishes. We are indeed happy to have Pavanaja join the CIS-A2K team. I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. Thanks for pointing this out, Pradeep. I have checked CIS Archives. This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Bulletin to various mailing lists in January 2013. Here is the link http://cis-india.org/about/newsletters/january-2013-bulletin . Unfortunately, we have missed posting this on the WMI mailing list. Sincere apologies for this mistake. We will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. As a step in this direction, will alert CIS's Publication Manager (who puts together all the newsletters and Bulletins) to post all such information on the WMI list without fail. Warmly, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Arun, On 10 March 2013 18:10, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Vishnu, Is there any further hiring planned for the A2K team? Right now all the positions are filled as per the the contract CIS has with WMF. Unless and until any one of us leaves the A2K team, we will not be planning on any fresh recruitment. Should there be any such developments will surely let you and other friends on the list know. Have a good day! Warmly, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: Introducing Dr. U.B Pavanaja, Consultant - Indian languages
Dear Anirudh, This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Newsletter in January. Due to oversight it was not included in the A2K Newsletter, which gets posted to WMI mailing list along with few other language and city mailing lists. We are deeply apologetic for this slip-up and will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. Thank you for your understanding. Best regards, Vishnu On 10 March 2013 23:16, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I haven't seen a job announcement related to the relevant position either on the Wikimedia India (WMI?) mailing list or on any of the local mailing lists. Thanks, Anirudh On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pradeep, Thank you for your wishes. We are indeed happy to have Pavanaja join the CIS-A2K team. I was just curious to know if there was an ad for recruitment for this post on the list for this position or not. I could not find the ad herein. If someone who has a link to that post, please share. Thanks for pointing this out, Pradeep. I have checked CIS Archives. This announcement was sent out in the CIS main Bulletin to various mailing lists in January 2013. Here is the link http://cis-india.org/about/newsletters/january-2013-bulletin . Unfortunately, we have missed posting this on the WMI mailing list. Sincere apologies for this mistake. We will ensure that this does not get repeated in the future. As a step in this direction, will alert CIS's Publication Manager (who puts together all the newsletters and Bulletins) to post all such information on the WMI list without fail. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
On Monday, March 11, 2013, Tejaswini Niranjana wrote: Dear Frederick, It's nice to see your signature in several Indian languages! Wanted to know which script Konkani wikipedia is planning to use, Devanagari or Kannada or both? It would be good if you could throw some light on comparative statistics regarding how many Konkani speakers use which script. FYI, Many languages in MediaWiki has script variants with automatic script conversion. Here is my assessment on Konkani and technical instructions if somebody from Konkani community interested in this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Automatic_conversion_in_Konkani_language Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
Konkani belongs to somewhat a unique class of Wikimedia languages where many scripts may be used for the same content. Not exclusive, this list includes at least English, Devanagari, Kannada and Malayalam. The ideal goal in the case of a Konkani Wikimedia project is to have an input system in any script from the above set as the user prefers and then also to render the output in any script from the above set. The content itself may be stored in some particular script or code space. If I remember correctly, there have been several discussions in possible techniques and tools to enable such a feature. Amir (Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי), Shiju Alex or Santhosh Thottingal may be able to enlighten us more about this. This may also be the case for Sanskrit, as Sanskrit used to be scribed in different scripts (other than just in devanagari) in different regions. Perhaps, we should even have a Harward-Kyoto transliterated version for Sanskrit. On an even more ambitious scale, I dream about each Indic language being available for input and output in every other Indic scripts. (Imagine someone in Kerala trying to read and practice a Bengali poem without having to know the Bengali script itself, and vice versa.) -Viswam On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote: Dear Frederick, It's nice to see your signature in several Indian languages! Wanted to know which script Konkani wikipedia is planning to use, Devanagari or Kannada or both? It would be good if you could throw some light on comparative statistics regarding how many Konkani speakers use which script. Thanks, Tejaswini On 11 March 2013 02:37, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all: Konkani Wikipedia [http://bit.ly/14bTwAi] is in its incubation stage. We would like to attempt to scale it up. Can someone point me to the essential messages that need to be translated (into Konkani), as I could try to get help to get those done. Thanks in advance, FN Frederick Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या ಫ್ರೆದೆರಿಕ್ ನರನ್ಯಾ ഫ്രെദെരിക് നരന്യാ فريدريك نورونيا FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Audio recordings (mostly from Goa): http://bit.ly/GoaRecordings Goa,1556 http://www.scribd.com/doc/76671049/Goa1556-Catalogue-Books-from-Goa ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications (HEIRA) Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute of Science (CCS-IISc) t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268 f: 91-80-26730722 http://heira.in www.cscs.res.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
Dear Santhosh, Thank you for sharing this very useful link. Will touch base with you, offline, for more help on this. Thanks. Warmly, Vishnu On 11 March 2013 10:05, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.comwrote: On Monday, March 11, 2013, Tejaswini Niranjana wrote: Dear Frederick, It's nice to see your signature in several Indian languages! Wanted to know which script Konkani wikipedia is planning to use, Devanagari or Kannada or both? It would be good if you could throw some light on comparative statistics regarding how many Konkani speakers use which script. FYI, Many languages in MediaWiki has script variants with automatic script conversion. Here is my assessment on Konkani and technical instructions if somebody from Konkani community interested in this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Automatic_conversion_in_Konkani_language Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
That last utopian comment needs to be made a reality. Thanks for putting the issue so well. Tejaswini On 11 March 2013 12:35, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.comwrote: Konkani belongs to somewhat a unique class of Wikimedia languages where many scripts may be used for the same content. Not exclusive, this list includes at least English, Devanagari, Kannada and Malayalam. The ideal goal in the case of a Konkani Wikimedia project is to have an input system in any script from the above set as the user prefers and then also to render the output in any script from the above set. The content itself may be stored in some particular script or code space. If I remember correctly, there have been several discussions in possible techniques and tools to enable such a feature. Amir (Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי), Shiju Alex or Santhosh Thottingal may be able to enlighten us more about this. This may also be the case for Sanskrit, as Sanskrit used to be scribed in different scripts (other than just in devanagari) in different regions. Perhaps, we should even have a Harward-Kyoto transliterated version for Sanskrit. On an even more ambitious scale, I dream about each Indic language being available for input and output in every other Indic scripts. (Imagine someone in Kerala trying to read and practice a Bengali poem without having to know the Bengali script itself, and vice versa.) -Viswam On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote: Dear Frederick, It's nice to see your signature in several Indian languages! Wanted to know which script Konkani wikipedia is planning to use, Devanagari or Kannada or both? It would be good if you could throw some light on comparative statistics regarding how many Konkani speakers use which script. Thanks, Tejaswini On 11 March 2013 02:37, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all: Konkani Wikipedia [http://bit.ly/14bTwAi] is in its incubation stage. We would like to attempt to scale it up. Can someone point me to the essential messages that need to be translated (into Konkani), as I could try to get help to get those done. Thanks in advance, FN Frederick Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या ಫ್ರೆದೆರಿಕ್ ನರನ್ಯಾ ഫ്രെദെരിക് നരന്യാ فريدريك نورونيا FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Audio recordings (mostly from Goa): http://bit.ly/GoaRecordings Goa,1556 http://www.scribd.com/doc/76671049/Goa1556-Catalogue-Books-from-Goa ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications (HEIRA) Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute of Science (CCS-IISc) t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268 f: 91-80-26730722 http://heira.in www.cscs.res.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications (HEIRA) Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute of Science (CCS-IISc) t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268 f: 91-80-26730722 http://heira.in www.cscs.res.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote: That last utopian comment needs to be made a reality. I wouldn't call it utopian, but it would be long-haul. One way of ensuring that work on that gets done is to frame a project idea and put it up as a project under Google Summer of Code, preferably with an interested mentor. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
How long a haul this could be? Asking out of curiosity. On 11 March 2013 10:17, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote: That last utopian comment needs to be made a reality. I wouldn't call it utopian, but it would be long-haul. One way of ensuring that work on that gets done is to frame a project idea and put it up as a project under Google Summer of Code, preferably with an interested mentor. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: How long a haul this could be? Asking out of curiosity. Of course, this depends upon the amount of synergy we put in. In terms of computing technology, this should not be a problem at all. But someone will have to conceive and design a basic framework and engine (like an MVChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVC_modelmodel) that can be used with a common back end repository for contents in all languages. There shall be 100% accurate and lossless reversible script-to-script translation maps working on real time (at the instances of inputting and rendering). Some possible obstacles, as it occurs to me: 1. Increased server/browser load due to the additional processing 2. Incompatibilities and non-uniqueness between scripts. (For eg: Some languages have letters / phonemes that are not available in some other languages, [eg. ഴ (a sound/letter in Malayalam)( ಳ / ழ/ ళ) 3. Availability of enough multi-lingual experts to verify the quality of such translations 4. Implementation of long-term standards and version control. -Viswam ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
