Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
Agreed. We can't have articles for eachand every college fest. I said the same thing at NITT. Though I believe Pragyan scraped thru the Notability border because it was ISO certified. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. We can't have articles for eachand every college fest. I said the same thing at NITT. Though I believe Pragyan scraped thru the Notability border because it was ISO certified. That simply depends on whether the event passes [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:EVENT]] notability guidelines. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Deepon Saha wrote: I too think we should conc. more on quality than quantity. If we get 4/5 interested students from a session (be it only 5% or 10%) then we should take good care to support them keep them motivated.. Good point..:-) Hey, Deepon, I totally agree with you. More below on focussing on smaller groups. On your point on providing support and motivation, Nitika and Subha are working on something that you will hear from soon. On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: cut Kritharth is a student at IIT and has been actively involved in Wikipedia monthly meet-ups in Delhi. It was through him that we got in touch with the organisers at Tryst - annual tech fest organized by IIT-Delhi. I'd really like to thank him for helping us organise this session and a big thank you to Noopur, Rajesh and Piyush for all their help. Thanks so much Kritharth, User:Piyush.Aggarwal and User:RajeshPandey! These were really well organised sessions! Second session on March 5th, Monday: cut We organised the session a bit differently - after giving a brief introduction about Wikipedia and showing some basic editing we invited the uninterested participants to feel free to leave the session and requested only the interested lot to stay back for the remaining session. The participants were informed that in the second half of the session we'll be talking in greater detail about Wikipedia policies and do more hands-on editing training hence it made sense only for those students to stay back who'd like to get deeper knowledge about Wikipedia. Eventually we were left with 8 participants but in my opinion that's was the beginning point of a more interactive and interesting session. Each of these 8 participants were more involved when discussing about Wikipedia policies, they wanted to do more hands on editing and we were also able to provide them individual attention because of limited numbers. Three advantages. The quality of the discussion became so much richer because you had only the most committed in the room. The kind of attention we were able to give to everyone left was so much more personal. Also, as a presenter, I actually felt so much more motivated because the only guys in the room were so much more involved. During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kabab. It's really essential to do actual editing on article - and get the participants themselves to edit. You should have seen the look of pride on the participants with every edit. Large groups in outreach sessions become unmanageable - so we should focus on smaller groups. hisham ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del][Summary] Delhi Wikimeetup 7
Great work guys!!! On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:03 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Great !! keep it up :-) On 12 March 2012 15:18, Piyush Aggarwal me.piyushaggar...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings Everyone, This is a report of the Delhi Wikimeetup 7http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Delhi/Delhi7conducted on 11th March, 2012 in New Delhi. The session started with introductions and with each person talking about what they wanted to get out of the meet-up. All except one of the participants had their user accounts on Wikipedia. Noopur and Subha explained the basics of Wikipedia (nature of articles, NPOV, copyright, etc). One of the attendees were invited to create his own user account. Subha explained the basics of editing and invited one participant to edit an article of his choice. The reason we did this was so that interest levels were high and that the newbie could felt pride in his contribution. The article they choose was Pav Bhajihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pav_bhaji. Through the course of his editing, the audience learnt about basic edit and referencing. Noopur then explained Commons, and showed how to upload a picture and place it in a Wikipedia page. Noopur talked about GLAM Project Crafts Museum, Delhihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/CM and requested participation, and a session at the Museum was planned on March 18th. After the session, there was a QA session where questions were answered about writing on Wikipedia, kind of images to upload and what to do to see if an image available on Google can be uploaded. Folks hung out and and they were (photo video) graphed explaining their experience of editing. We have also scheduled a GLAM meetuphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Delhi/Crafts_Museum_Meeton 18th March! Here is a small sample of what we did: http://youtu.be/a8Fdv3rt1NI Thank You Regards, Piyush Aggarwal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l * *Thanks n Regards Ansuman * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://twitter.com/smileyansu * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ansumang * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
Oh, so that's where Tunde Ke Kabab came from! I tried to get support to bring it to DYK, but didn't have time after that. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Deepon Saha wrote: I too think we should conc. more on quality than quantity. If we get 4/5 interested students from a session (be it only 5% or 10%) then we should take good care to support them keep them motivated.. Good point..:-) Hey, Deepon, I totally agree with you. More below on focussing on smaller groups. On your point on providing support and motivation, Nitika and Subha are working on something that you will hear from soon. On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: cut Kritharth is a student at IIT and has been actively involved in Wikipedia monthly meet-ups in Delhi. It was through him that we got in touch with the organisers at Tryst - annual tech fest organized by IIT-Delhi. I'd really like to thank him for helping us organise this session and a big thank you to Noopur, Rajesh and Piyush for all their help. Thanks so much Kritharth, User:Piyush.Aggarwalhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piyush.Aggarwal and User:RajeshPandey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RajeshPandey! These were really well organised sessions! - Second session on March 5th, Monday: cut We organised the session a bit differently - after giving a brief introduction about Wikipedia and showing some basic editing we invited the uninterested participants to feel free to leave the session and requested only the interested lot to stay back for the remaining session. The participants were informed that in the second half of the session we'll be talking in greater detail about Wikipedia policies and do more hands-on editing training hence it made sense only for those students to stay back who'd like to get deeper knowledge about Wikipedia. Eventually we were left with 8 participants but in my opinion that's was the beginning point of a more interactive and interesting session. Each of these 8 participants were more involved when discussing about Wikipedia policies, they wanted to do more hands on editing and we were also able to provide them individual attention because of limited numbers. Three advantages. The quality of the discussion became so much richer because you had only the most committed in the room. The kind of attention we were able to give to everyone left was so much more personal. Also, as a presenter, I actually felt so much more motivated because the only guys in the room were so much more involved. During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdharyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chacha_Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kababhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunde_ke_Kabab . It's really essential to do actual editing on article - and get the participants themselves to edit. You should have seen the look of pride on the participants with every edit. Large groups in outreach sessions become unmanageable - so we should focus on smaller groups. *hisham* * * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: Oh, so that's where Tunde Ke Kabab came from! strictly speaking, the Tunde ke Kabab came from Lucknow... ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist) and *ducks for cover while a mailing list admin hunts him down* The article's got 8 editors contributing 20+ edits over 5 days. That's not earth-shattering but it's so encouraging to see! It was also one of those rare moments where a newbie in an outreach session got a chance to create an article. I usually discourage newbies from getting too fussed about creating an article and try and get them to edit existing articles - but this time we just got lucky. I tried to get support to bring it to DYK, but didn't have time after that. I'm sure it would be a great DYK candidate but it's got a long way to go to hit the 1,500 mark. For folks on the mailing list who don't know DYK, it stands for Did You Know, and it's a series of interesting facts from new or recently expanded articles on Wikipedia. If you ever run into acronyms on this mailing list (or any other), just check where you go for everything else: Wikipedia! Happy Editing! hisham On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kabab. It's really essential to do actual editing on article - and get the participants themselves to edit. You should have seen the look of pride on the participants with every edit. Large groups in outreach sessions become unmanageable - so we should focus on smaller groups. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Heya, I guess, not everybody here may know about this, but back in 2009, we have a phenomenally successful scavenger hunt called Wikipedia Takes Chennai. THe link in question is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai Don't look at the Commons Category, there are only 31 files there. This event was one of the first of it's kind in India, and was an inspiration to many of us. A quick glance at the talk page reveals a small fraction of what amount of Back end work was done by several of us, including me. We received a lot of FlickR donations as well. A heavy ton of this was uploaded by Srikanth L and Ganesh K. Four were done by me. [YAY!] Anyway, on this page, we were discussing various things, when GaneshK posted a link to an article on WHY some people don't like contributing to the Commons. I believe this could be of help: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/arts/20funny.html Wikipedia May Be a Font of Facts, but It’s a Desert for Photos It is three years old though. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on March 18th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spaceship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
Hisham, Very nicely put. Just a question: Do people who organise outreach events, use a little Humour in your talking? IT helps greatly in keeping people interested. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: Oh, so that's where Tunde Ke Kabab came from! strictly speaking, the Tunde ke Kababhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunde_ke_Kabab came from Lucknow... ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist) and *ducks for cover while a mailing list admin hunts him down* The article's got 8 editors contributing 20+ edits over 5 days. That's not earth-shattering but it's so encouraging to see! It was also one of those rare moments where a newbie in an outreach session got a chance to create an article. I usually discourage newbies from getting too fussed about creating an article and try and get them to edit existing articles - but this time we just got lucky. I tried to get support to bring it to DYK, but didn't have time after that. I'm sure it would be a great DYK candidate but it's got a long way to go to hit the 1,500 mark. For folks on the mailing list who don't know DYKhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know, it stands for Did You Know, and it's a series of interesting facts from new or recently expanded articles on Wikipedia. If you ever run into acronyms on this mailing list (or any other), just check where you go for everything else: Wikipedia! Happy Editing! *hisham* On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdharyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chacha_Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kababhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunde_ke_Kabab . It's really essential to do actual editing on article - and get the participants themselves to edit. You should have seen the look of pride on the participants with every edit. Large groups in outreach sessions become unmanageable - so we should focus on smaller groups. * * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
Hisham, it seems you now owe the community tunde ke kabab during the next bash. ;) Srikanth, do humour only if you can do it. It should be used sparingly, like salt. Its counter-productive if it falls flat. Better that instructors/volunteers should be positive, smiling and enthu while editing to get similar effects. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hisham, Very nicely put. Just a question: Do people who organise outreach events, use a little Humour in your talking? IT helps greatly in keeping people interested. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: Oh, so that's where Tunde Ke Kabab came from! strictly speaking, the Tunde ke Kababhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunde_ke_Kabab came from Lucknow... ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist) and *ducks for cover while a mailing list admin hunts him down* The article's got 8 editors contributing 20+ edits over 5 days. That's not earth-shattering but it's so encouraging to see! It was also one of those rare moments where a newbie in an outreach session got a chance to create an article. I usually discourage newbies from getting too fussed about creating an article and try and get them to edit existing articles - but this time we just got lucky. I tried to get support to bring it to DYK, but didn't have time after that. I'm sure it would be a great DYK candidate but it's got a long way to go to hit the 1,500 mark. For folks on the mailing list who don't know DYKhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know, it stands for Did You Know, and it's a series of interesting facts from new or recently expanded articles on Wikipedia. If you ever run into acronyms on this mailing list (or any other), just check where you go for everything else: Wikipedia! Happy Editing! *hisham* On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdharyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chacha_Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kababhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunde_ke_Kabab . It's really essential to do actual editing on article - and get the participants themselves to edit. You should have seen the look of pride on the participants with every edit. Large groups in outreach sessions become unmanageable - so we should focus on smaller groups. * * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
On Mar 13, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote: Hisham, it seems you now owe the community tunde ke kabab during the next bash. ;) Considering that Shiju is trying to get support to improve the health of the community, tunde ke kabab I suspect would be ill-advised. Now on the other hand, if you had asked for brinjals... Shameless plug: Please click on the community health link above or on the Medical Translate page and join up. We already have 12 editors from 7 Indic languages participating - which is great. ...but we ONLY have 12 editors from 7 Indic languages!!! Srikanth, do humour only if you can do it. It should be used sparingly, like salt. Its counter-productive if it falls flat. er, strictly speaking, salt in tunde ke kabab can't fall flat. It can either be too much or too little. in the context of tunde ke kabab, though the recipe is secret, i have tasted a hint of cloves - which could theoretically fall flat. *mailing list admin bursts a vein* Better that instructors/volunteers should be positive, smiling and enthu while editing to get similar effects. On a serious note, I wanted to raise another point. English is not a first language for all of us. Not all of us are comfortable speaking in public - and that too in English. However (some) times, we feel pressured to conduct outreach in English by a college room full of guys who are chattering in English. There's nothing wrong if you choose to do outreach in our mother tongues. In fact, there is everything right in the presenter presenting in the language that he or she is most comfortable with. Bengali or Gujarati or Tamil or Punjabi or whatever is the non-English common language between the audience and the presenter. It doesn't have to be English if you're not comfortable. hisham ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: what amount of Back end work was done Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, its not sexy stuff :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find them useful. 2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective of Wikipedia. 1. Usage :- Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons, asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not unused. Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel happy about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which added only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added 628 files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for the event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for all, which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms of tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc) If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but still). Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87% usage, but jokes apart Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally] Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not possible to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a decent success. 2. Naming and meta data :- A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it) B. English Description (or Add it) C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it) 3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing is almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of next few months, any help welcome :) Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed section on learnings / best practices. On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4], which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( ) There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects across wikimedia universe can use it. Thanks for reading through. [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India [3] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition [4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२ -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:57, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: It doesn't have to be English if you're not comfortable. It shouldn't be English if either you / audience are uncomfortable and both have a better comfort level in another language. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
The question just got asked when I was about to ask it. The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised. The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands [[waiting for Godot]]. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're talking about something like this, right Ashwin? Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all events are culprits. Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder to think! Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is uploaded with : * proper description. * suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation. * proper categorisation in Commons. Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: The question just got asked when I was about to ask it. The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised. The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands [[waiting for Godot]]. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're talking about something like this, right Ashwin? Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk happened, else I'd have helped.I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted. Konarak Ratnakar | kondi Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530 From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all events are culprits. Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder to think! Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is uploaded with :* proper description.* suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.* proper categorisation in Commons. Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: The question just got asked when I was about to ask it. The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised. The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands [[waiting for Godot]]. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're talking about something like this, right Ashwin? Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon
Hi Netha, Great initiative! Wondering why you're limiting yourself to one article? Why not do multiple articles in small groups of 3 to 4 people? Also, why not do it across languages as well? It might get slightly messy but will be more fun and might foster some healthy competition between the groups as well :) Pradeep Handheld On Mar 13, 2012 8:36 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, I am writing to invite each one of you to India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thonthat has been scheduled for 25th March 2012, Sunday from 12:00pm to 2:00pm. It's probably not possible for all of us to meet physically to celebrate Women's Month but we all meet virtually - online! During the two hour time slot we all will be editing an article which will be pre-selected by way of nomination and votes. Depending on the number of members joining in we can also organise an IRC meet to meet each other before and during the event. Everyone is welcome to come edit Wikipedia with us at this event. Women, new editors, all those who relate to women's history or women's issues, those who want to learn how to edit or can teach others how, and anyone with an interest in women's history are particularly encouraged to attend. Please sign Up herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Sign_upand suggest and vote for articles herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Article_Selection. Nomination for articles will be closed by 22nd of March and the voting will be closed by 24th March. Hurry! :) Thanks Nitika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitika.t, for bringing up this idea! I welcome all of you to participate by editing subjects about women's history and more. Everyone is welcome! Thanks -- Netha Hussain User : Netha Hussain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain on Wikiprojects Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon
Thanks Pradeep. We will be working on 1-4 articles depending upon the volunteer turnout. I am thinking of conducting a similar Edit-a-thon in Malayalam Wikipedia. If anybody else would like to conduct WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon's in other Indic languages, please let me know. Together, we shall celebrate the Women's month! In WikiLove, Netha Hussain On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Netha, Great initiative! Wondering why you're limiting yourself to one article? Why not do multiple articles in small groups of 3 to 4 people? Also, why not do it across languages as well? It might get slightly messy but will be more fun and might foster some healthy competition between the groups as well :) Pradeep Handheld On Mar 13, 2012 8:36 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, I am writing to invite each one of you to India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thonthat has been scheduled for 25th March 2012, Sunday from 12:00pm to 2:00pm. It's probably not possible for all of us to meet physically to celebrate Women's Month but we all meet virtually - online! During the two hour time slot we all will be editing an article which will be pre-selected by way of nomination and votes. Depending on the number of members joining in we can also organise an IRC meet to meet each other before and during the event. Everyone is welcome to come edit Wikipedia with us at this event. Women, new editors, all those who relate to women's history or women's issues, those who want to learn how to edit or can teach others how, and anyone with an interest in women's history are particularly encouraged to attend. Please sign Up herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Sign_upand suggest and vote for articles herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Article_Selection. Nomination for articles will be closed by 22nd of March and the voting will be closed by 24th March. Hurry! :) Thanks Nitika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitika.t, for bringing up this idea! I welcome all of you to participate by editing subjects about women's history and more. Everyone is welcome! Thanks -- Netha Hussain User : Netha Hussain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussainon Wikiprojects Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event
Thanks swaroop, you really have done a brilliant job.. Lets hope next time we get more participants..:) Deepon On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, You've probably heard about the online Wikiacademy that Nitika announced around a week ago; we recently conducted that session on Saturday (10 March 2012) on Google+ Hangout. Six participants signed up - one informed day before about her absence, two did not show up at all, one could not log into Google hangout, one was able to attend the first part of the session but then lost his internet connection and eventually we had only one participant who attended the entire session. That's what happened at the online outreach event organised last Saturday, 10th March. It wasn't particularly an impressive session in terms of turnout - we were expecting all six guys to show up and take part. But even if these 2 participants show interest and edit on regular basis I'd call this event a success - a success rate of 33%. I'd like to discuss few things that we should definitely keep in mind before we organize similar events: 1. Request only those people to register who are sure to have a stable internet connection. Some students were trying to log in for the session but their hostel/school connections was extremely unstable. Im not sure if there is a way for making sure that they have stable connections but it is really important. (I can also see where this might be difficult, because not many can give any guarantees on the reliability of their net connections) 2. Invariably we'll have few people who'll drop out at the last moment or are not able to join leaving room for someone else to join in. Hence for such events we should probable overbook a session. If one drops out, another one could attend the session instead. This will make sure that we're utilizing our resources and time to the fullest. 3. Ask the participants to do a test google hangout a day or two before the actual event. This will make sure that the participants are not facing any technical issues and can attend the session seamlessly. 4. Maybe at the time of registration we need to ask participants for their phone numbers. We sent reminders to the participants by way of email but yet 2 of them did not show up. It could be that the didn't not read the mails well in time. If we had their phone numbers we could have messaged/called to send them a gentle reminder. 5. We could also send across some useful links and videos for the participants to go through before the session. This way participants will be warmed up and more informed for the session. It will also give the participants enough time to jot down all their queries and get them clarified during the session. From my personal opinion, online outreach is something that can definitely work. Sitting in Bangalore I was able to train guys from Nepal Mangalore. I'm hoping that they'll become active editors in English and in their respective native languages. Im really happy to note that at least one of them has already edited several articles in the medical space - which is his field of study. I'd also like to thank Deepon - he'd put in a lot of time and effort for helping us conduct this session. Many thanks of course to Nitika, who requested me to conduct the session, and who was omnipresent throughout the session, and took over from me whenever my net connection gave way (Another point: we need to somehow make sure that the instructors themselves have a good net connection). Hoping to conduct more sessions like these. Thanks Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon
Thanks for pulling this together Netha :) I am in! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Pradeep. We will be working on 1-4 articles depending upon the volunteer turnout. I am thinking of conducting a similar Edit-a-thon in Malayalam Wikipedia. If anybody else would like to conduct WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon's in other Indic languages, please let me know. Together, we shall celebrate the Women's month! In WikiLove, Netha Hussain On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Netha, Great initiative! Wondering why you're limiting yourself to one article? Why not do multiple articles in small groups of 3 to 4 people? Also, why not do it across languages as well? It might get slightly messy but will be more fun and might foster some healthy competition between the groups as well :) Pradeep Handheld On Mar 13, 2012 8:36 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, I am writing to invite each one of you to India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thonthat has been scheduled for 25th March 2012, Sunday from 12:00pm to 2:00pm. It's probably not possible for all of us to meet physically to celebrate Women's Month but we all meet virtually - online! During the two hour time slot we all will be editing an article which will be pre-selected by way of nomination and votes. Depending on the number of members joining in we can also organise an IRC meet to meet each other before and during the event. Everyone is welcome to come edit Wikipedia with us at this event. Women, new editors, all those who relate to women's history or women's issues, those who want to learn how to edit or can teach others how, and anyone with an interest in women's history are particularly encouraged to attend. Please sign Up herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Sign_upand suggest and vote for articles herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Article_Selection. Nomination for articles will be closed by 22nd of March and the voting will be closed by 24th March. Hurry! :) Thanks Nitika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitika.t, for bringing up this idea! I welcome all of you to participate by editing subjects about women's history and more. Everyone is welcome! Thanks -- Netha Hussain User : Netha Hussain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussainon Wikiprojects Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been contemplating on things: How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items? Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware or don't know how to)? Do let me know what you guys think! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk happened, else I'd have helped. I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted. Konarak Ratnakar | kondi -- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530 From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all events are culprits. Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder to think! Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is uploaded with : * proper description. * suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation. * proper categorisation in Commons. Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: The question just got asked when I was about to ask it. The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised. The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands [[waiting for Godot]]. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're talking about something like this, right Ashwin? Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Hey Noopur,If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this categorization work and saw this mail here.And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll add/create proper categories to the images. From: anirudh...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:19:38 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Arrey no. Chill ya. You are our biggest success story of the photothon :P This comment was generally regarding how too many images can make us all lazy. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Hey Noopur, If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this categorization work and saw this mail here. And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll add/create proper categories to the images. From: anirudh...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:19:38 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Dear Beria, Here is the message this user left: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noopur28#Your_uploads_in_December_2011.2C_referring_to_India_:_Categorisation My logic for adding 3-4 categories was that people usually search by keywords and not inside larger categories. So I would add around 3-4 categories. But, then this user told me to stick to larger parent categories. I am still unsure which is a better way so I stick to only India or a state category now. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Who asked you that and why? You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't redundant (Like add the categories Cakes and Bithday cakes to the same image). I would like the message when someone asked you that _ * * *[image: Inline images 1]* *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos** * ** http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Beria, you are GOD. She moved all the media to [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] with Cat-a-lot. Also, I made an error again, [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] should be a sub-cat of [[Category:Ahmedabad]], so there is no need to add both. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Who asked you that and why? You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't redundant (Like add the categories Cakes and Bithday cakes to the same image). I would like the message when someone asked you that _ * * *[image: Inline images 1]* *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos** * ** http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
She deserves some virtual tiramisu for that :) Thanks Beria! On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: Beria, you are GOD. She moved all the media to [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] with Cat-a-lot. Also, I made an error again, [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] should be a sub-cat of [[Category:Ahmedabad]], so there is no need to add both. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Who asked you that and why? You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't redundant (Like add the categories Cakes and Bithday cakes to the same image). I would like the message when someone asked you that _ * * *[image: Inline images 1]* *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos** * ** http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Telugu article count crosses 50,000
Hi all Wikipedia Telugu's article count has crossed 50,000 mark. On this occasion, I congratulate everyone who was directly and indirectly involved. Now I request every tewiki user to concentrate on articles' quality improvement. తెవికీ సభ్యులందరి కృషి వలన తెవికీ ౫ వ్యాసాల మైలురాయిని దాట గలిగింది. అందరికీ శుభాకాంక్షలు. ఇకపై ప్రత్యేక వ్యాసం యొక్క నాణ్యతను మెరుగుపరుద్దాం. -- Rahimanuddin Shaik నాని ॥రామానుజార్య దివ్యాజ్ఞాం వర్ధతామభివర్ధతాం॥ Telugu Wikipedia : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Ashwin, Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions, usage suggestions) for the prizes. Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the complete list): 1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users are even more overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own, without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup. Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now. We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping / description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were uploaded as part of the after contest efforts. The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear filenames/descriptions 3)rotations 4)categorisaton And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your own wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why categorising should be done. 2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for. This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in commons too. 3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis there are a total of 11k file usage instances. 4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all uploaders talk pages (and email if their email facility is enabled) thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of. ==Links== 1) http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinkedlimit=250target=Category%3ATamilWiki_Media_Contest On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been contemplating on things: How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items? Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware or don't know how to)? Do let me know what you guys think! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk happened, else I'd have helped. I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted. Konarak Ratnakar | kondi -- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530 From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all events are culprits. Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder to think! Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is uploaded with : * proper description. * suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation. * proper categorisation in Commons. Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
I think you didn't understand him Noopur. He asked you (and i'm quoting): *Please use as far as possible the category of the regarding city/town/village or district (if there's no category) etc., or, a localized better 'fitting' i.e. the 'most fitting' category(ies). Do not add - in addition - the categories of the parent category, among them cities, states and countries etc.* Or in other words: Don't add a cat and a sub-cat. Like the cake and birthday cake case, you only need to put in one, so if is a Birthday Cake, use only this category. People who want to see a birthday cake and get to category Cake, will have a link to the sub cat. Same goes to categories like India - state - city - event. If the event is in city X (Let's use Delhi for example) you don't need to add as well the cat for the city, state and Country in the image. That is called over categorization. But if you have a birthday cake for a party in Delhi in the event (again example): Wikipedia 10. You can - and you should - add the cat to the event AND the category for the cake. If you wanna see an example of a image with several categories but not overcategorized you can see this one for example: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:B%C3%A9ria_at_Bom_Jesus_do_Monte.jpgwho have 6 categories, but none is subcat of another. _ * * *[image: Inline images 1]* *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos** * ** http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 13 March 2012 15:24, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Beria, Here is the message this user left: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noopur28#Your_uploads_in_December_2011.2C_referring_to_India_:_Categorisation My logic for adding 3-4 categories was that people usually search by keywords and not inside larger categories. So I would add around 3-4 categories. But, then this user told me to stick to larger parent categories. I am still unsure which is a better way so I stick to only India or a state category now. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Who asked you that and why? You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't redundant (Like add the categories Cakes and Bithday cakes to the same image). I would like the message when someone asked you that _ * * *[image: Inline images 1]* *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos** * ** http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Bala, that is great news indeed. 8K utilisations! Magnificient. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: Ashwin, Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions, usage suggestions) for the prizes. Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the complete list): 1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users are even more overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own, without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup. Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now. We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping / description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were uploaded as part of the after contest efforts. The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear filenames/descriptions 3)rotations 4)categorisaton And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your own wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why categorising should be done. 2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for. This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in commons too. 3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis there are a total of 11k file usage instances. 4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all uploaders talk pages (and email if their email facility is enabled) thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of. ==Links== 1) http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinkedlimit=250target=Category%3ATamilWiki_Media_Contest On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been contemplating on things: How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items? Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware or don't know how to)? Do let me know what you guys think! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk happened, else I'd have helped. I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted. Konarak Ratnakar | kondi -- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530 From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all events are culprits. Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder to think! Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Telugu article count crosses 50, 000
Heartiest congratulations! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- 2012/3/14 రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.com Hi all Wikipedia Telugu's article count has crossed 50,000 mark. On this occasion, I congratulate everyone who was directly and indirectly involved. Now I request every tewiki user to concentrate on articles' quality improvement. తెవికీ సభ్యులందరి కృషి వలన తెవికీ ౫ వ్యాసాల మైలురాయిని దాట గలిగింది. అందరికీ శుభాకాంక్షలు. ఇకపై ప్రత్యేక వ్యాసం యొక్క నాణ్యతను మెరుగుపరుద్దాం. -- Rahimanuddin Shaik నాని ॥రామానుజార్య దివ్యాజ్ఞాం వర్ధతామభివర్ధతాం॥ Telugu Wikipedia : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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Hello all, I agree there is categorization and inserting meta data work pending for some of the photos clicked in Mumbai Photowalk 2. The temporary maintenance [[Category:WTM ll]] was however changed to [[Category:Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2]], to avoid disambiguation. Few Good clicks have been inserted on appropriate articles. Categorization will be done and the usage stats would surely rise :) However am confused as to what should be done with repetitive images? Also, it would be really helpful if we have a preset guide-book for the maintenance related work since even I was unaware of lot of things while taking up the charge (which I eventually learnt and still learning !) and hence the delay. Warmly, Nikita Belavate. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Bala, that is great news indeed. 8K utilisations! Magnificient. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: Ashwin, Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions, usage suggestions) for the prizes. Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the complete list): 1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users are even more overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own, without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup. Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now. We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping / description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were uploaded as part of the after contest efforts. The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear filenames/descriptions 3)rotations 4)categorisaton And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your own wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why categorising should be done. 2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for. This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in commons too. 3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis there are a total of 11k file usage instances. 4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all uploaders talk pages (and email if their email facility is enabled) thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of. ==Links== 1) http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinkedlimit=250target=Category%3ATamilWiki_Media_Contest On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been contemplating on things: How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items? Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware or don't know how to)? Do let me know what you guys think! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon
*Why shud girls have all the fun ? * :D Just kidding ! Nice initiative ... All the best wishes! On a related note, it is good to find reasons on why Wikipedia attract very less woman editors ( much less in India than global benchmarks) and how to solve this gender gap. Thoughts ? -TC On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for pulling this together Netha :) I am in! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Pradeep. We will be working on 1-4 articles depending upon the volunteer turnout. I am thinking of conducting a similar Edit-a-thon in Malayalam Wikipedia. If anybody else would like to conduct WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon's in other Indic languages, please let me know. Together, we shall celebrate the Women's month! In WikiLove, Netha Hussain On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Netha, Great initiative! Wondering why you're limiting yourself to one article? Why not do multiple articles in small groups of 3 to 4 people? Also, why not do it across languages as well? It might get slightly messy but will be more fun and might foster some healthy competition between the groups as well :) Pradeep Handheld On Mar 13, 2012 8:36 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, I am writing to invite each one of you to India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thonthat has been scheduled for 25th March 2012, Sunday from 12:00pm to 2:00pm. It's probably not possible for all of us to meet physically to celebrate Women's Month but we all meet virtually - online! During the two hour time slot we all will be editing an article which will be pre-selected by way of nomination and votes. Depending on the number of members joining in we can also organise an IRC meet to meet each other before and during the event. Everyone is welcome to come edit Wikipedia with us at this event. Women, new editors, all those who relate to women's history or women's issues, those who want to learn how to edit or can teach others how, and anyone with an interest in women's history are particularly encouraged to attend. Please sign Up herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Sign_upand suggest and vote for articles herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Article_Selection. Nomination for articles will be closed by 22nd of March and the voting will be closed by 24th March. Hurry! :) Thanks Nitika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitika.t, for bringing up this idea! I welcome all of you to participate by editing subjects about women's history and more. Everyone is welcome! Thanks -- Netha Hussain User : Netha Hussain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussainon Wikiprojects Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Telugu article count crosses 50, 000
Congratulations !!! Hi Rahimanuddin, Is it possible to make one poster for it ? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-ml-20K.svg -- naveenpf 2012/3/14 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com Heartiest congratulations! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- 2012/3/14 రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.com Hi all Wikipedia Telugu's article count has crossed 50,000 mark. On this occasion, I congratulate everyone who was directly and indirectly involved. Now I request every tewiki user to concentrate on articles' quality improvement. తెవికీ సభ్యులందరి కృషి వలన తెవికీ ౫ వ్యాసాల మైలురాయిని దాట గలిగింది. అందరికీ శుభాకాంక్షలు. ఇకపై ప్రత్యేక వ్యాసం యొక్క నాణ్యతను మెరుగుపరుద్దాం. -- Rahimanuddin Shaik నాని ॥రామానుజార్య దివ్యాజ్ఞాం వర్ధతామభివర్ధతాం॥ Telugu Wikipedia : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon
As a miniscule gesture of support to you fabulous ladies, I looked for a
prominent Indian woman without an image, located an image and uploaded it
to Commons and the article.
I found the Nightingale of India, Sarojini Naidu, had no worthwhile image.
Maragret Bourke-White's image ex Life Archive is copyright free in India
and I have uploaded that under {{pd-India}} and it now graces the article.
I request all editors to do small things like this even if you are not able
to edit major articles or help in other ways.
I also request all editors of the Tag Assess drive 2011 to recheck their
assessments and add gender=yes for articles on women, children and
related issues.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
--
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:14 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
*Why shud girls have all the fun ? * :D
Just kidding ! Nice initiative ... All the best wishes!
On a related note, it is good to find reasons on why Wikipedia attract
very less woman editors ( much less in India than global benchmarks) and
how to solve this gender gap.
Thoughts ?
-TC
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for pulling this together Netha :) I am in!
Regards
Noopur
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Pradeep.
We will be working on 1-4 articles depending upon the volunteer turnout.
I am thinking of conducting a similar Edit-a-thon in Malayalam Wikipedia.
If anybody else would like to conduct WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon's in other
Indic languages, please let me know. Together, we shall celebrate the
Women's month!
In WikiLove,
Netha Hussain
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Pradeep Mohandas
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Netha,
Great initiative!
Wondering why you're limiting yourself to one article? Why not do
multiple articles in small groups of 3 to 4 people? Also, why not do it
across languages as well?
It might get slightly messy but will be more fun and might foster some
healthy competition between the groups as well :)
Pradeep
Handheld
On Mar 13, 2012 8:36 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey All,
I am writing to invite each one of you to India WikiWomen's
Edit-a-Thonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thonthat
has been scheduled for 25th March 2012, Sunday from 12:00pm to 2:00pm.
It's probably not possible for all of us to meet physically to celebrate
Women's Month but we all meet virtually - online!
During the two hour time slot we all will be editing an article which
will be pre-selected by way of nomination and votes. Depending on the
number of members joining in we can also organise an IRC meet to meet each
other before and during the event.
Everyone is welcome to come edit Wikipedia with us at this event.
Women, new editors, all those who relate to women's history or women's
issues, those who want to learn how to edit or can teach others how, and
anyone with an interest in women's history are particularly encouraged to
attend.
Please sign Up
herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Sign_upand
suggest and vote for articles
herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Article_Selection.
Nomination for articles will be closed by 22nd of March and the voting
will
be closed by 24th March. Hurry! :)
Thanks Nitika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitika.t, for
bringing up this idea!
I welcome all of you to participate by editing subjects about women's
history and more. Everyone is welcome!
Thanks
--
Netha Hussain
User : Netha Hussain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussainon
Wikiprojects
Student of Medicine and Surgery
Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode
Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com
swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon
On a related note, we are looking for a women volunteer coordinator for
Women and Gender Issues Task Force on WikiProject India.
The only QRs are :
* Lady editor.
* Enthusiastic and willing to take up the role.
* Not involved with other Wikipedia responsibilities. (For example,
User:Noopur28 would not be recommended due to her large involvements
already with GLAM IP).
Please reply on list if you meet the QR and would like to take up this
challenging appointment.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
--
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:
As a miniscule gesture of support to you fabulous ladies, I looked for a
prominent Indian woman without an image, located an image and uploaded it
to Commons and the article.
I found the Nightingale of India, Sarojini Naidu, had no worthwhile image.
Maragret Bourke-White's image ex Life Archive is copyright free in India
and I have uploaded that under {{pd-India}} and it now graces the article.
I request all editors to do small things like this even if you are not
able to edit major articles or help in other ways.
I also request all editors of the Tag Assess drive 2011 to recheck their
assessments and add gender=yes for articles on women, children and
related issues.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
--
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:14 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
*Why shud girls have all the fun ? * :D
Just kidding ! Nice initiative ... All the best wishes!
On a related note, it is good to find reasons on why Wikipedia attract
very less woman editors ( much less in India than global benchmarks) and
how to solve this gender gap.
Thoughts ?
-TC
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for pulling this together Netha :) I am in!
Regards
Noopur
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Netha Hussain
nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Pradeep.
We will be working on 1-4 articles depending upon the volunteer
turnout. I am thinking of conducting a similar Edit-a-thon in Malayalam
Wikipedia. If anybody else would like to conduct WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon's
in other Indic languages, please let me know. Together, we shall celebrate
the Women's month!
In WikiLove,
Netha Hussain
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Pradeep Mohandas
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Netha,
Great initiative!
Wondering why you're limiting yourself to one article? Why not do
multiple articles in small groups of 3 to 4 people? Also, why not do it
across languages as well?
It might get slightly messy but will be more fun and might foster some
healthy competition between the groups as well :)
Pradeep
Handheld
On Mar 13, 2012 8:36 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey All,
I am writing to invite each one of you to India WikiWomen's
Edit-a-Thonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thonthat
has been scheduled for 25th March 2012, Sunday from 12:00pm to 2:00pm.
It's probably not possible for all of us to meet physically to celebrate
Women's Month but we all meet virtually - online!
During the two hour time slot we all will be editing an article which
will be pre-selected by way of nomination and votes. Depending on the
number of members joining in we can also organise an IRC meet to meet
each
other before and during the event.
Everyone is welcome to come edit Wikipedia with us at this event.
Women, new editors, all those who relate to women's history or women's
issues, those who want to learn how to edit or can teach others how, and
anyone with an interest in women's history are particularly encouraged to
attend.
Please sign Up
herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Sign_upand
suggest and vote for articles
herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon#Article_Selection.
Nomination for articles will be closed by 22nd of March and the voting
will
be closed by 24th March. Hurry! :)
Thanks Nitika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitika.t, for
bringing up this idea!
I welcome all of you to participate by editing subjects about women's
history and more. Everyone is welcome!
Thanks
--
Netha Hussain
User : Netha Hussainhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussainon
Wikiprojects
Student of Medicine and Surgery
Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode
Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com
swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Encyclopaedia Britannica stops the print version
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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] Census 2011: Mobile and internet users in India
Dear all, Stories of Census 2011 reveal interesting figures on mobile phone and internet usage. While it is a sorry situation to see the lack of basic amenities, it is impressive to see the extent of mobile phone reach. Pasting the insightful snippets. *THE Hindu: Half of India's homes have cellphones, but not toilets* In stark contrast, 63.2 per cent of the households own a telephone connection — 53.2 per cent of mobile phones...The data cast light on the changing character of the media. There has been a 16 per cent increase in the number of households watching television, but a 15 per cent decline in the use of radios and transistors. A total of 47.2 per cent of households own a television; only 19.9 per cent have either radio or transistors.* * [Link:http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/article2992640.ece] *Deccan Herald: Most Indians lack amenities: Census* Use of telephones, mainly mobiles, has rapidly increased with 48 per cent people in rural areas carrying mobiles and 76 per cent in urban areas. Around six per cent of households have the privilege of using both – mobile and land line telephones...Less than one out of ten households in the country have computer or laptop with only three per cent having internet facility.* * [Link: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/234091/half-indians-defecate-open-more.html ] Important Note : Non-commercial reproduction for informative purposes only. The publisher ( Times of India ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the article / content. All copyrights are duly acknowledged. Regards Noopur Raval Communications, Consultant India Programs ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] Census 2011: Mobile and internet users in India
This was also revealed go some global survey last year. It said that the number of mobile phones in a household was five times the number of toilets. It, however, did not mention anything about Internet access. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 in Chittagong
Dear All, is there any means to know about the events happening in our neighbours house?.. like th one Unconference thing in B'desh? if there is any, can we have some one representing our India in those events.. Jus a suggestion and curiosity. correct if i am wrong. Best, Ade. On 12 March 2012 11:49, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding a report published by Wikimedia Bangladesh regarding an unconference organized in Chittagong. According to Tanvir, at least 300 participants attended. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tanvir Rahman wikitan...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 in Chittagong To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello everyone, I am so pleased to announce that Wikimedia Bangladesh, with the help of Independent University, Bangladesh, Chittagong, and Bangladesh Open Source Network, organized the first Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 [1] in Chittagong [2] to promote Bangla Wikipedia [3] in Bangladesh. This outreach event was held in 2 and 3 of March and was attended by around 300 participants. It was first big-level program of Wikimedia Bangladesh and it was outside of the Dhaka (the capital) to focus on country-wide outreach. We called it an unconference to give it a less formal look and to make the appearance more welcoming. This two days event was inaugurated by the Chittagong City Mayor and and in the last it was attended by the Since and Technology minister of Bangladesh Government. It was also attended by some other popular public figures, writers, and university professors, and media personalties. During the unconference we had events like workshops, photo exhibition, cultural program, seminars, article writing contest, etc. We had several teams from the schools, colleges, and universities in Chittagong as team participants. The unconference was hosted by Chittagong campus of Independent University, Bangladesh. You can see the some of the images of the events in the Commons category [4]. Because of the presence of the popular public figures and government officials, the event got a significant amount of media coverage in national print and electronic media. We also even had billboards in the city's main crossings to let people know about Bangla Wikipedia which was the main purpose of this event and current strategic priority of Wikimedia Bangladesh. Wikimedia Bangladesh wants to thank everyone who supported us. We want to thank our sponsors and donors who helped us to arrange this big event. We want thank Wikimedia Foundation director Sue Gardner for her nice video speech that we screened in the inaugural ceremony. And of course to our participants, who eventually made this effort a success. And I apologize to let you guys know about this event in late. We are still working on putting everything on wiki. Regards, Tanvir Rahman Wikitanvir on Wikimedia Secretary, Wikimedia Bangladesh [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bangla_Wikipedia_Unconference_2012 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chittagong [3] http://bn.wikipedia.org [4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bangla_Wikipedia_Unconference_2012 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] India is country under Internet surveillance : Reporters without Boarders
Reporters Without Borders' annual list of enemies of the Internet published India and Kazakhstan, new additions to the “under surveillance” category Since the Mumbai bombings of 2008, the Indian authorities have stepped up Internet surveillance and pressure on technical service providers, while publicly rejecting accusations of censorship. The national security policy of the world’s biggest democracy is undermining freedom of expression and the protection of Internet users’ personal data. Read Full report http://en.rsf.org/beset-by-online-surveillance-and-12-03-2012,42061.html BBC report http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17350225 -- Anivar Aravind -- [It is not] possible to distinguish between 'numerical' and 'nonnumerical' algorithms, as if numbers were somehow different from other kinds of precise information. - Donald Knuth ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event
Very good to know about outreach by yourself and others from Gujarati Wikipedia. Would appreciate if you could post a small note reporting how each event went, so that the rest of the community in India is abreast with your activities and can learn and replicate the good work your doing/avoid repeating any mistakes you may have made. Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:16:42 + From: dsv...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event Hi Swaroop, This is quite common phenomenon for the new beginings. I have started online meetups/sessions for Gujarati Wikipedia since the begining of this new Year. Have held 4 sessions so far. Had similar experience in my firstever planned event. Users are showing interest, and I am sure, if we continued it as a regular event, people will be regular to attend as well. Those who couldn't join the meetups/events online, have shared their apologies and have regreted for it, which shows that they genuinely missed, and that is enough for me to carry it on. Simply wanted to say that you are doing a nice job, please Keep Calm and Carry On. People will join and number of participants will increase slowly. All the best! Dhaval On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks swaroop, you really have done a brilliant job.. Lets hope next time we get more participants..:) Deepon On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, You've probably heard about the online Wikiacademy that Nitika announced around a week ago; we recently conducted that session on Saturday (10 March 2012) on Google+ Hangout. Six participants signed up - one informed day before about her absence, two did not show up at all, one could not log into Google hangout, one was able to attend the first part of the session but then lost his internet connection and eventually we had only one participant who attended the entire session. That's what happened at the online outreach event organised last Saturday, 10th March. It wasn't particularly an impressive session in terms of turnout - we were expecting all six guys to show up and take part. But even if these 2 participants show interest and edit on regular basis I'd call this event a success - a success rate of 33%. I'd like to discuss few things that we should definitely keep in mind before we organize similar events: 1. Request only those people to register who are sure to have a stable internet connection. Some students were trying to log in for the session but their hostel/school connections was extremely unstable. Im not sure if there is a way for making sure that they have stable connections but it is really important. (I can also see where this might be difficult, because not many can give any guarantees on the reliability of their net connections) 2. Invariably we'll have few people who'll drop out at the last moment or are not able to join leaving room for someone else to join in. Hence for such events we should probable overbook a session. If one drops out, another one could attend the session instead. This will make sure that we're utilizing our resources and time to the fullest. 3. Ask the participants to do a test google hangout a day or two before the actual event. This will make sure that the participants are not facing any technical issues and can attend the session seamlessly. 4. Maybe at the time of registration we need to ask participants for their phone numbers. We sent reminders to the participants by way of email but yet 2 of them did not show up. It could be that the didn't not read the mails well in time. If we had their phone numbers we could have messaged/called to send them a gentle reminder. 5. We could also send across some useful links and videos for the participants to go through before the session. This way participants will be warmed up and more informed for the session. It will also give the participants enough time to jot down all their queries and get them clarified during the session. From my personal opinion, online outreach is something that can definitely work. Sitting in Bangalore I was able to train guys from Nepal Mangalore. I'm hoping that they'll become active editors in English and in their respective native languages. Im really happy to note that at least one of them has already edited several articles in the medical space - which is his field of study. I'd also like to thank Deepon - he'd put in a lot of time and effort for helping us conduct this session. Many thanks of course to Nitika, who requested me to conduct the session, and who was omnipresent throughout the session, and took over from me whenever my net connection gave way (Another point: we need to somehow make sure that the instructors themselves have a good
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Telugu article count crosses 50, 000
Congrats to all Telugu Wikipedians. Telugu wikipedia is the 3rd Indic Language wikipedia to cross the 50,000 article milestone. As Naveen mentioned it would be nice if you could create a banner and use that for outreach. Please let me know if you require support on this. Shiju On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 AM, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all Wikipedia Telugu's article count has crossed 50,000 mark. On this occasion, I congratulate everyone who was directly and indirectly involved. Now I request every tewiki user to concentrate on articles' quality improvement. తెవికీ సభ్యులందరి కృషి వలన తెవికీ ౫ వ్యాసాల మైలురాయిని దాట గలిగింది. అందరికీ శుభాకాంక్షలు. ఇకపై ప్రత్యేక వ్యాసం యొక్క నాణ్యతను మెరుగుపరుద్దాం. -- Rahimanuddin Shaik నాని ॥రామానుజార్య దివ్యాజ్ఞాం వర్ధతామభివర్ధతాం॥ Telugu Wikipedia : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Telugu article count crosses 50, 000
Congratz Telugu Wiki Community! On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Congrats to all Telugu Wikipedians. Telugu wikipedia is the 3rd Indic Language wikipedia to cross the 50,000 article milestone. As Naveen mentioned it would be nice if you could create a banner and use that for outreach. Please let me know if you require support on this. Shiju On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 AM, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all Wikipedia Telugu's article count has crossed 50,000 mark. On this occasion, I congratulate everyone who was directly and indirectly involved. Now I request every tewiki user to concentrate on articles' quality improvement. తెవికీ సభ్యులందరి కృషి వలన తెవికీ ౫ వ్యాసాల మైలురాయిని దాట గలిగింది. అందరికీ శుభాకాంక్షలు. ఇకపై ప్రత్యేక వ్యాసం యొక్క నాణ్యతను మెరుగుపరుద్దాం. -- Rahimanuddin Shaik నాని ॥రామానుజార్య దివ్యాజ్ఞాం వర్ధతామభివర్ధతాం॥ Telugu Wikipedia : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With Regards, Anoop ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
