[Wikimediaindia-l] Re: Wikipedia Blocked in Pakistan
Feeling heartbroken over the news of Wikipedia being banned in Pakistan by Shehbaz Sharif led Pakistan Government. Knowledge should be freely accessible to all, not limited by censorship. Authoritarian governments disconnect Internet to disengage people from Politics. It would be difficult to sympathize others without acknowledging ourselves (https://internetshutdowns.in/). Good time to get our maps corrected without vandalism. Can someone tell how will it impact India? What are the next steps? India and Pakistan aren't the only countries in the world, and there are lot of editors from other countries also correcting vandalism. If you are imposing certain point of view, that would be the vandalism. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimediaindia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
[Wikimediaindia-l] Re: Condition of a Wikimedian, arrested by UP Police
FINALLY! The Supreme court granted Bail to Kappen. He was imprisoned since October 2020 under UAPA while reporting the Gang rape and murder or 19 year old Dalit woman from Hathras, Uttar Pradesh. Everybody in India can be so proud of this entire saga. I hope Kappen (wanna be Kappens too) learned his lesson, and won't commit any "Unlawful activities" like reporting gangrapes in holy states. Regards User:Praveenp On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 14:19, Bodhisattwa Mandal < bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kaartic, > > I don't think Trust and Safety or WMF legal has any practical value here. > I can endorse Vikram's view from my experience, when I interacted with both > of the teams about another extremely controversial topic which might very > well hamper the safety of the entire Indian Wikimedia community and can > destroy the life and reputation of volunteers. Practically speaking, if any > Wikimedia content is deemed illegal as per the law of the country, > currently we are all vulnerable and there is no existing support structure > which can take any step to convince website hosts to find any solution or > prevent this kind of unfortunate situation or provide emergency legal > relief or take out the volunteers from PTSD. > > Regards, > Bodhisattwa > > > > On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 00:25, Kaartic Sivaraam < > kaarticsivaraam91...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 10:56, Bodhisattwa Mandal >> wrote: >> > >> > I personally always felt that individual Wikimedia volunteers are >> always in an extremely vulnerable position. There is no legal support >> system present in the Indian Wikimedia ecosystem to safeguard or prevent >> Wikimedia volunteers from being harrassed by state or charged or arrested >> for any controversial content present on Wikipedia. Although Sidheeq was >> not charged for anything related to his Wikimedia work and to some people, >> maybe his arrest has nothing to do with the Wikimedia community, but it >> gives us a chance to think, what happens if this kind of incident happens >> to any one of us with respect to any controversial content present on any >> Wikimedia sites. I strongly feel that we need to build a good legal support >> system sustainable enough to help volunteers in distress anytime anywhere >> in India; the scope of such a support system can be defined or discussed, >> but something should be there. >> > >> >> Forgive my ignorance and I could be misunderstanding but anyways, >> shouldn't the Trust & Safety team be helpful for these situations? >> Isn't it kind of their work to support Wikimedians in those cases? If >> not, that team at least looks like the relevant people to discuss this >> with. >> >> Team page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trust_and_Safety >> Team overview: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trust_and_Safety/Overview >> >> -- >> Sivaraam >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimediaindia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimediaindia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
[Wikimediaindia-l] Condition of a Wikimedian, arrested by UP Police
Dear Indian Wikimedians, As many of you may have known, one of our fellow Wikimedian was arrested by Uttar Pradesh Police in October 2020. His name is Siddique Kappan (His wikimedia username is User:Sidheeq). He is from Kerala, and he was active in Wikimedia projects (mainly in Malayalam Wikipedia) until his arrest. Incidently he is a journalist and he was arrested from the home of Hathras rape and murder victim while reporting the victim Dalit girl's family members. UP Police has slapped Sedition, Terrorism as well as UAPA charges against him. Kappen is diabetic and now COVID positive. He was admitted to hospital only after he collapsed in the jail cell. With his deteriorating health, it was accused that Kappan was chained to hospital bed like an animal. Today's news reports say that he is in critical condition. (You could always google "Siddique Kappan") As a tone deaf people I don't expect anything from this mail, I just wish to share the information. Stay Inside, Stay Complementary (non-critical), Stay safe, Stay healthy. User:Praveenp - Siddique's en.wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sidheeq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fix the length of edit summary the non-Latin languages can use (2016 Community Wishlist Survey)
Hi, Since these guys are too stubborn, don't expect much. But atleast we could share our requirement (...again): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Miscellaneous#Fix_the_length_of_edit_summary_the_non-Latin_languages_can_use Regards, praveen ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
On 14/10/2014, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Was not it only an announcement? I am really sorry, but I really had to disrupt such an announcement because Sri Anivar uses every such announcement as an opportunity to bypass any allegations against him, and also most of the times he gets titles like returning officer without any real activity or contributions. And I know because of my past experience that probably he will do it again and agian, escaping any answering anywhere. On 14 October 2014 22:18, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All , I stopped responding to praveen long back in all social media platforms and blocked him from my contact lists. I do support pseudo anonymity as Did I complain you? ;-) political right , But I dont want to entertain his baseless allegations and abuses If you believe my mail is baseless, you could have ask me reference other than using this escapism again and again. :-) Since this is a response to Election committee mail , I am responding inline On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. Please ask Chapter .Announcement mail is linked at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 page I know the rule. I am asking that how you are maintain to get titles like this without any real contributions anywhere. Even more badly, in this same list I saw you were discouraging users just because they were not using your favorite operating system. truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. I think praveen is referring my efforts to interface between the FOSS developer way of decision making and Wikimedia community way. This post summarizes it http://www.quora.com/Why-was-ULS-forced-on-reluctant-language-wikipedias-without-any-community-consensus Happy to see that you have such a flexible vision :-) Hating consensus while being a returning official of a poll is such a great ability! various community issues around technology decision making such as ULS is also part of discussions in India Community Consultation as well . offtopic: What? Where? But personalizing issues and building and spreading personal animosity around technology opinions is a nonconstructive attitude of this identity for long . So I am not engaging with him further on this off-topic conversation . I want this community and its process clear and correct. I cannot agree someone with bad reputation represent community and its decisions. Whenever I am asking somethin to you, I hope you would reply a proper answer so that users can believe you. Unfortunately never happened. I hope moderators will take a note on this Please stop such threats, If you can answer my questins (including the sexual offense case, which you omitted again), problem solved. ~ regards Anivar Aravind Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Dear fellow Wikimedians and Chapter Members, This is a bad situation. Anivar Aravind is not ready to answer any questions or concern about him. Everytime somebody ask him some explanations, he either attack user(s) who try to get some clarifications claiming that they have some agendas or ducking back and hiding for sometime. Personally I even don't and and I am not interested know him outside these mailing list. As you can see, always he select words to feel like there is a long time 'real life rivalry' as an escape tactics. I only want to know truth and reasons. But various accusations against him and his attitude to community seriously trouble me also. Generally he came to ml.wp village pump to teach us pretending somekind of 'techno-upper-cast' that we were wrong (eg: Unicode normalization decision and ULS deployment) but fortunately there is always enough people with better knowledge. I believe it is better to ban people like him from representing Wikimedia India and Indian Wikimedians community at least untill there is some answers. Regards, Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. I know you've membership in all the available mailing lists, you used to keep Activist phrase in all your email signatures, and I know that you are a great propaganda pusher (Mostly your personal propagandas :-)). But I wish to know your actual contributions to these projects or community. I believe that a person who acting as a returning officer must be truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. Here you are acting as a returning officer. That bit is too hard for me to understand. I know that there are manyy allegations against you including recent one from a female fellow feminism activist. Personally I didn't see any explanation from you anywhere even-though there is a vast discussion in facebook and other social medias about this issue. I don't knnow that whether you sexually offended anybody anywhere. But I believe that you cannot pop up somewhere else without explaining yourself anywhere after such a big accusation. OR may be I am missing explanation from your side. I know nothiing about others though. Praveen P On 13/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for typo in subject line On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: 2004? Surely its done by now? Oh wait, we didn't have a Chapter then! ;) On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:37 PM Subject: WMIN 2004 Elections Announcement To: Wikimedia Members List wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com Dear Members, *Subject: Election Notice for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee Elections-2014* The Election Committee appointed by Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee(EC) for notifying and conducting the Election to Wikimedia Chapter EC election, hereby announces the election to the Wikimedia Chapter EC for the two year term. A detailed ‘Rules Regulations for the Election’ is available on wiki ( http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf) which includes the Nomination Form for Candidature (at Page 7). As of now approved Members who are on the membership roll as on 23 August 2014 are eligible to participate in the Election and contest the Election (as per by-laws,based on the date of election and AGM scheduled for 23 Nov 2014). An electoral roll will be made available by the EC at least three weeks before the AGM as per the MOA. This will includes updates if any to the members list which will be used for finalizing the slate of candidates as well as for mailing ballots. Please note the following details: 1. Date of election: 23 Nov 2014. 2. Timing for voting in person: As per AGM Agenda which will be communicated by Chapter later. 3. Place of election and for sending postal communication: Wikimedia Chapter, No.194, 2nd 'C' Cross, Dommaluru 2nd stage, Bangalore 560071. India. 4. Last date and time of receiving nominations: 24 Oct 2014, 11:59PM IST WMIN Wiki http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 ( http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014) will be used as the electronic medium for submitting and processing nominations. Each nomination is to be placed on a sub page and linked from the Elections page. Members proposing and seconding the candidature as well as the candidate have to sign using their user-ids on wiki. They also need to identify their membership number on their User pages for validation. Nomination pages will be locked to prevent editing on the day following the due date. 5. Scrutiny and Publishing Draft slate of candidates: 25 Oct 2014 5. Last date for withdrawal of nominations: 29 Oct 2014 11:59PM 6. Publishing final slate of candidates: 01-Nov-2014 The Executive Committee and the Election Committee will host an IRC on 20 Oct 2014 ,Monday between 9PM and 10.30PM on IRC channel #wikimedia-in. All potential candidates and WMIN members are requested to make use of this for any clarifications on rules and procedures with Election Committee and Executive Committee. There will facilitate a second IRC meeting on 05 Nov 2014 between Candidates and the Voters . Voters can make use of this opportunity to interact with each candidate in WMIN election. The Election Committee comprises of the following members: - Anivar Aravind : Returning officer - Pavithra H : Polling Officer - Srinivas Rao DB : Polling Officer You can contact us via Talk:Elections2014 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014 for any clarifications or discussions. Thanks in advance for your cooperation to conduct the election in free and fair manner. *More
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
On 14/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All , I stopped responding to praveen long back in all social media platforms and blocked him from my contact lists. I do support pseudo anonymity as Did I complain you? ;-) political right , But I dont want to entertain his baseless allegations and abuses If you believe my mail is baseless, you could have ask me reference other than using this escapism again and again. :-) Since this is a response to Election committee mail , I am responding inline On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. Please ask Chapter .Announcement mail is linked at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 page I know the rule. I am asking that how you are maintain to get titles like this without any real contributions anywhere. Even more badly, in this same list I saw you were discouraging users just because they were not using your favorite operating system. truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. I think praveen is referring my efforts to interface between the FOSS developer way of decision making and Wikimedia community way. This post summarizes it http://www.quora.com/Why-was-ULS-forced-on-reluctant-language-wikipedias-without-any-community-consensus Happy to see that you have such a flexible vision :-) Hating consensus while being a returning official of a poll is such a great ability! various community issues around technology decision making such as ULS is also part of discussions in India Community Consultation as well . offtopic: What? Where? But personalizing issues and building and spreading personal animosity around technology opinions is a nonconstructive attitude of this identity for long . So I am not engaging with him further on this off-topic conversation . I want this community and its process clear and correct. I cannot agree someone with bad reputation represent community and its decisions. Whenever I am asking somethin to you, I hope you would reply a proper answer so that users can believe you. Unfortunately never happened. I hope moderators will take a note on this Please stop such threats, If you can answer my questins (including the sexual offense case, which you omitted again), problem solved. ~ regards Anivar Aravind Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposed interwiki prefix c:
Hi, Great! The bug popped up in my inbox filter after Mayur's reply. Didn't see any links to community notification there. :-) regards, PraveenP On Sunday 16 February 2014 03:14:27 PM IST, ansuman wrote: Hi, Looks like there is no issue. Just need to file another bug to change the configuration at Hindi Wikipedia. They already have a shortcut in Hindi script श्र: for the category, https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:प्रबंधक_सूचनापट#Requests_for_comment.2FWikimedia_Commons Ansuman On 16 February 2014 13:12, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com mailto:me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There is an old bug in bugzilla which requests single letter prefix 'c' as a redirect to Wikimedia Commons (bug 4676 [1]), but c: is already configured as a namespace alias for Category namespace (श्रेणी) in Hindi Wikipedia (bug 29940 [2]). I don't know the popularity of use of c: in Hindi Wikipedia, but hope it is ignorable (bug is actually one of the /Mayur Bug/s :-)). I hope Hindi community will support bug 4676, which help almost every Wikimedia wikis in every supported languages. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4676 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29940 praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Proposed interwiki prefix c:
Hi, There is an old bug in bugzilla which requests single letter prefix 'c' as a redirect to Wikimedia Commons (bug 4676 [1]), but c: is already configured as a namespace alias for Category namespace (??) in Hindi Wikipedia (bug 29940 [2]). I don't know the popularity of use of c: in Hindi Wikipedia, but hope it is ignorable (bug is actually one of the /Mayur Bug/s :-)). I hope Hindi community will support bug 4676, which help almost every Wikimedia wikis in every supported languages. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4676 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29940 praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-i18n] beta testing mobile webfonts
FYI: Original Message Subject:[Mediawiki-i18n] beta testing mobile webfonts Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:03:45 -0800 From: Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org Reply-To: MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org To: mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org, mobile-tech mobile-t...@wikimedia.org Per conversations with Amir, Santhosh, Siebrand, and Jon, I would like to beta test mobile webfonts on 1 wiki and then possibly add more wikis later if the beta test does not cause any adverse effects. To this end, I have identified seven candidate wikis that I would like your help to narrow down further. These seven wikis meet the following criteria: 1. The language of the wiki would benefit from loading a webfont by default 2. The default font would be less than 50K in size 3. The wiki has at least 50 active users (i.e. a community) LanguageCodeArticlesUsers Active UsersFont Size Punjabi pa 8,069 6,818 61 12.6K Gujaratigu 24,623 17,696 59 28K Marathi mr 39,621 39,114 135 36.4K Nepali ne 24,944 14,379 73 36.5K Hindi hi 109,045 101,837 274 37.3K Oriya or 4,535 5,937 76 47.8K Kannada kn 14,384 17,455 177 48K The main variables that I don't know are: 1. How bad is the experience on each of these wikis without webfonts? 2. Do we already have a working relationship with the communities on any of these wikis? If you guys could help me narrow down this list to one or two choices, it would be greatly appreciated! Ryan Kaldari ___ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Times of India : Wikipedia will go ‘secure’ to beat NSA surveillance
Infact, now NSA can directly ask for keys :-). But more security is always good. see also: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/378940 On Wednesday 14 August 2013 07:17:48 AM IST, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: *Times of India : Wikipedia will go ‘secure’ to beat NSA surveillance* http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/internet/Wikipedia-will-go-secure-to-beat-NSA-surveillance/articleshow/21556479.cms /Just days after reports revealed that National Security Agency (NSA) in the US actively looked at what people read on Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation announced on its website that it would implement HTTPS for logged-in users. The foundation, a non-profit organization, manages Wikipedia. The S in HTTPS stands for secure. Two days ago, Guardian newspaper revealed that with the help of a tool called XKeyscore, NSA was monitoring web users who accessed Wikipedia, the world's 7th most popular website. Wikimedia said that to start with, it would offer HTTPS connection to all logged-in users from August 21. It will then gradually roll-out HTTPS for all users as well as implement additional security measures to make it harder for governments to snoop on Wikipedia users. However, it did not specify any deadlines for the additional security measures. Following the Guardian report, Jimmy Wales, the co-founder of Wikipedia, had revealed on Twitter that the website was planning to switch to HTTPS from HTTP but there were a few bugs that had delayed the process. Our current architecture cannot handle HTTPS by default, but we've been incrementally making changes to make it possible. Since we appear to be specifically targeted by XKeyscore, we'll be speeding up these efforts, Wikimedia said on its website. On Friday Wales announced the Wikimedia decision and tweeted, I challenge the rest of the industry to join us. Encryption is a human rights issue. HTTPS is more secure compared to HTTP. Websites using HTTPS establish a secure connection between their servers and the user's computer and greatly minimize the privacy risk. The secure connection means that third parties like government agencies or internet service providers (ISPs) can not read the content of data that a website and its users exchange. However, the government agencies, hackers and internet service providers can still collect this data and possibly read it if they can break the encryption. Initially, only banks and other organizations mindful of cyber security risks used HTTPS. But gradually email service providers and e-commerce websites started using it on their login pages. Currently, popular websites like Google, Facebook and Twitter use HTTPS but the majority of websites, including big ones like Yahoo! still rely on HTTP. / Regards Tinu Cherian pr...@wikimedia.in mailto:pr...@wikimedia.in Important Note : Non-commercial reproduction for informative purposes only. The publisher ( Times of India ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the article / content. All copyrights are duly acknowledged. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (no subject)
ഇങ്ങനത്തെ സ്ക്രീൻഷോട്ടൂകൾ കാണുമ്പോഴെ phishing - fishing ആയത് അറിയത്തൊള്ളു. ചുമ്മാ അടിച്ചു വിടുകയല്ലേ ;-) On Friday 16 November 2012 07:40:08 PM IST, Sheel Sindhu Manohar wrote: Sorry My account may be hacked sorry for this spam link On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com mailto:me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this, link is set to redirect another page (using meta-refresh): http://onlinemarket11work.com/__?12/1 http://onlinemarket11work.com/?12/1. And that page redirected to Google from server side (http://www.google.com/?12/1). Found no fishy script. But such redirects usually happens when a site pretending innocent, while it unable to break client. Blocking the sender may be reasonable. (I opened the link using Chromium incognito window from Linux Mint) On Friday 16 November 2012 03:56:22 PM IST, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: Please DO NOT OPEN the Link. My Antivirus gives me a warning. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Sheel Sindhu Manohar tuxophi...@gmail.com mailto:tuxophi...@gmail.com mailto:tuxophi...@gmail.com mailto:tuxophi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.akiraarts.com/wp-__content/plugins/akismet/__google235.html http://www.akiraarts.com/wp-content/plugins/akismet/google235.html _ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.__wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@__lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/__wikimediaindia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] _ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.__wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/__wikimediaindia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.__wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/__wikimediaindia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- -* *Sheel Sindhu Manohar ( शील सिंधु मनोहर ) http://ssmanohar.in *www.jmilug.org http://www.jmilug.org * - ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (no subject)
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:54 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: ഇങ്ങനത്തെ സ്ക്രീൻഷോട്ടൂകൾ കാണുമ്പോഴെ phishing - fishing ആയത് അറിയത്തൊള്ളു. ചുമ്മാ അടിച്ചു വിടുകയല്ലേ ;-) Sorry, I was replying someone else :( ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Universal Language Selector
Apology: I am not from Indus Valley and not even a north Indian; I don't know whether I am allowed to write here. ;-) Anyway I am posting because this may affect so many languages, including those True Indian Indus Vally languages. :-p Dear Friends, I have seen extensive development in ULS, and it is live in translatewiki.net. It is a kind of joined form of Narayam and Webfonts, and intended to provide easy access to any users including new users in non-Latin wikies. It looks like sooner or later will reach our wikies. I agree that Narayam and Webfonts need some UI love, but even with that fact, they are easily understandable and usable. Atleast to me, ULS is no ullas. It is complex and UI is too confusing. For eg, you may need to enable keymap on each text area before typing in your language. I switched myself to IBus, just for convenience. I hope I am wrong, but I urge others to check ULS and report problems find by you. Doing so, it is possible to make it atleast usable. :-) praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)
On Wednesday 14 November 2012 09:31 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: The word Indic refers generally to the Indo-Aryan family of languages, which does not include Dravidian languages prevalent in Southern India. [citation needed] Then Why don't they just called Indic language, other than Indo-Aryan family of Languages. Hence, bunching the entire system of Dravidian languages together with the Indo-Aryan languages in India may seem derogatory to some, [who?] and reasonably so. Just my two cents, Anirudh IMHO, This is the most funniest argument I've ever heard on this matter. :-) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
And this also: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/17/wikipedia_click_fraud_malware_warning/ On Tuesday 15 May 2012 12:47:13 PM IST, Srikeit wrote: Thanks! Already spreading the word :) Regards On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org mailto:e...@wikimedia.org wrote: We've got an advisory up now: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/05/14/ads-on-wikipedia-your-computer-infected-malware/ Please don't hesitate to respond to tweets complaining about ads with a link to this blog post. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikeit Tadepalli ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit, scripts and Wikisource
Frankly, i had not understood what you said earlier :-(, thank you for later one. As you may have known, I personaly not interested in current type wide deployment of webfonts, not only because usability of its current deployment is limited, but also it is almost obsolete in its current purpose. Still I believe it can provide much help to users in multi-script environment. For sanskrit, even en.wp article says that many compatible scripts including malayalam, kannada, telugu etc were used to write sanskrit. Providing all those scripts in webfonts in wiki level may be idiotic in developer sense. If users are able to select appropriate font (read script) for them, then IMO it will be the real win of webfonts. Anyway i'm happy to know you've such a vast knowledge about silpa project and its scope and limitation. :-) On 07/03/2012, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Reading back I realised that I did not answer your question really. What you are asking for is the possibility to transliterate a text into a specific script.This is something that needs development. At the Silpa website there is functionality that does some initial transliteration. It however needs more work and when the software has been tried and tested it still needs to be implemented in MediaWiki. So the answer is: please help us code this functionality :) Thanks, Gerard http://silpa.org.in/Transliterate On 5 March 2012 17:33, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is it possible to select other scripts other than devnagiri or brahmi on user level? I know some sanskrit but i'm more comfortable with malayalam script :-). Such an option will be an added advantage for many people like me. I've seen many sanskrit texts (usually with malayalam translation or detailing) using malayalam script. So i hope nothing wrong in it. -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talk http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Sent from my mobile device With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit, scripts and Wikisource
Hi, Is it possible to select other scripts other than devnagiri or brahmi on user level? I know some sanskrit but i'm more comfortable with malayalam script :-). Such an option will be an added advantage for many people like me. I've seen many sanskrit texts (usually with malayalam translation or detailing) using malayalam script. So i hope nothing wrong in it. -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Images in wikipedia
By user level customization it is possible. I think providing such a feature by default, in wiki level, in projects like wikipedia is a bad idea because each file page contains much more data than a pop up layer can afford. Unlike facebook or google plus, only relevant and properly licensed pictures, remain undeleted in wikimedia projects. So all informations present in media pages, including license, category, included pages, details about the file, etc are important for an encyclopedic project. So current style file pages are not replacable (atleast for now). Still user customization possible for those who not interested in such details. On 27/02/2012, nischay nahata nischay...@gmail.com wrote: When using wikipedia and clicking on an image it opens up on a new page. Wouldn't it be nice if it just scaled-up on the same page using JS. Is there an extension there for this? and if yes why not implemented on wikipedia? -- With Regards Nischay Nahata B.tech 3rd year Department of Information Technology NITK,Surathkal irc-nick nischayn22 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Sent from my mobile device With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Konkani Wikipedia.
Probable offtopic: i read once that konkani use atleast 3 scripts (devanagiri, kannada, malayalam). If webfonts can switch appropriate font according to a user, while keeping one encoding as base (devanagiri?) , may help new generation people, who are now part of other states, and living under dominance of other languages can approach the wiki more confidently. On 24/02/2012, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Damodar, Like Shiju has earlier replied to you , There is already a Wikipedia project (in the incubator stage ) for Goanese Konkani. It is available here http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gom You can start contributing to it, Inspire others too and gradually make it a standalone language Wikipedia. If you are interested, I can probably connect you to Gurudath Baliga, Asst Director of Konkani Vishwa Kendra, who is passionate about the same. Regards Tinu Cherian P.S. For other Wikipedia Projects in Incubation, You can find them here http://wiki.wikimedia.in/List_of_Indian_language_wiki_projects#Projects_under_incubation On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM, damodar vinayak bale dvb...@rediffmail.com wrote: Thanks for this informative Mail. INDIA i.e. BHARAT has more than 1600 local languages. GOA is a State with all its communities speaking in one language KONKANI without even having a Primary School in its own Mother-tongue,as it was ruled by foreign rulers for more than four centuries. Can 'WIKIMEDIA' organization be of any help? With best regards, Damodar V. Bale, Margao-GOA. On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:18:45 +0530 wrote Cross posting across India related lists. Kindly ignore if you have read this on another mailing list. Original Message Subject: [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter :Jan 2012 Report -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing live search for the Wikimedia projects
Like the work, probably except that tiny all rights reserved part. ;-) i hope developers will add some features to go directly to required site+lang+im without using select options (using query strings or something like ?project=wplang=mlim=tr). Just thinking loud because i have seen in similar cases that a user always wanted direct focus on input field for searching. On 23/02/2012, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi all, Greetings from Wikimedia India !!! We are proud to announce live search for the Wikimedia projects http://live.wikimedia.in. The site was developed by Shrey Gokani under guidance of Wikimedia India Chapter. We want to thank Shrey Gokani for volunteering to do this project and making this a reality. We also want to thank Santhosh Thottingal and Junaid P V for the contributions for this project. Special thanks to Naveen Francis for leading this initiative. How to use ? * Select your Wikimedia Project, say “Wikipedia” * Select language of the project to search, say “English” * Input your search string in the Search: Box * The site auto displays possible pages based on the string match. * The site is also integrated with Narayam to support Indic language search. So select the corresponding input method ( if available) while searching on a Indic Project. This is still a beta version and further improvements are needed. As of now, it supports only English and Indic Language projects. For further queries, reporting bugs and suggestions, please contact us :- socialme...@wikimedia.in Thanks, Tinu Cherian. Wikimedia India http://wiki.wikimedia.in -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
I feel no sympathy for Nichalp or any such users. Per this discussion, he chose his path which is clearly against the aims of wikipedia. Somebody stated here that Nichalp himself appeared in this thread, so i assume, he has no intention to stop what he is doing. Why we should sympathize to hin? Btw paid edits are bad and anything paid editor devoted is only money . What i feel funny is that the secret spy (gupt char) guy, who started this thread written it as a little tended to Nichalp, but what he really wanted is tearing the mask, has taken almost similar alleged modus operandi of Nichalp to publish his thought. :-). No allegation intended in this entire last paragraph, i've not seen him much ;-) if i'm wrong, i already regretted. :-) On 08/02/2012, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: IT is sad, but true about what happened to Nicholas. While the edits by WifiOne are clearly CoI based, for now I choose to disconnect the user from Nichalp in my POV. Nicholas was the ideal Role model for us back in 2007-8-9. He churned out articles of good quality like no one. It was indeed sad that he had to resort to what he did. It proves that a man is remembered more for what evil deeds he does and not what good he does. Few people would know that Nichalp was the original uploader of Indian maps on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons. As for the IIPM related edits, yes, not just WifiOne, but another editor, who replied to the Talk page of the 'Management Guru', seem to be doing what it takes from keeping others from editing that article. Said user believes that I, or User:Utcursh shouldn't edit the article AS: i] I tweeted negatively about IIPM. ii] Utcursh is from another Business School an thus has a CoI. This resulted in MikeLynch taking a neutral stand on the talk page which resulted in the said user voting against in Mike's RfA, [and again, blaming it ON me!] I think we need a special talk about this IIPM matter on the English mailing list. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:20 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Wifione commented on this discussionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Arindam_Chaudhuri#New_section. He redacted some comments there, a few hours later, with this edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_researchaction=historysubmitdiff=475525747oldid=475410422on WP:No Original Research - he changed trial to trial/litigation in any country and published by any involved party to published /authored by any involved party and also changed Book Reviews from being considered a secondary source to being considered a primary source. Its interesting to note that the changes he made in policy relate somewhat to the discussion taking place on an article talk page where he was involved. Also, the following statements: Please provide valid sources to support this statement. MSN is not a reliable source. - Wifione 06:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC) (this discussionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indian_Institute_of_Management_Lucknow#Reliable_sources ) The MSN articlehttp://education.in.msn.com/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5071129page=2is actually an article by IANS (an independent News Agency), carried by MSN and others like Yahoo Newshttp://my.news.yahoo.com/fight-corruption-iim-lucknow-graduating-students-told-20110322-101343-289.html. A comment about the same Yahoo News article: .. Yahoo link simply shows the opinion of Mr. Devi Singh from IIM Lucknow. That is a self-published statement which should not be used to make a definitive statement. - Wifione 19:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC) (Same discussion) Im not commenting on the contents of the original email, the above definitely looks a bit out of order to me. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +1100 From: jay...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Unbelievable but Shocking ! I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ... So far the evidence is not good. but a look at the edit history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests of IIPM and its stakeholders. He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_researchaction=historysubmitdiff=475525747oldid=475410422 It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there arnt many changes. trial became trial/litigation in any country and he added independent a few times. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable, independent secondary sources for that interpretation. '''Do
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)
If this get implemented with enough background check with rigid criteria like credible 300 uploads/3000 edits +1 yr active participation in any indian lang wiki project so as active users can get full advantage, it will be great. Such a criteria will help to keep self proclaimed or self appointed wikipedia enthusiasists away from taking over wikimedians or misusing wikipedia photographer status. On 07/02/2012, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Agree with Srikanth, as I can't join the chapter because I'm underage. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:49:39 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians) I agree with fae about the entire issue. Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University where I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia. For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away for pulling out a Camera in Public. However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter, especially the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others. Re, On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction over. I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea at the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not. For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't be too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or no direct liability to an official body. There should however be a contribution record or an endorsement from someone to print these out. One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out plastic IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID might be able to suffice for the purpose. I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. Regards Theo On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to only trusted Wikimedians with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into some sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be addressed. Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line. Therefore, the chapter must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial amount of history with our projects and their mission. In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those it endorses. anirudh (personal opinion) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Will the chapter or India Programs provide assistance? IIRC both of them lie outside the content
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reordering interwiki list
Interwiki links in main page in allmost all wikies are customized. It is practically not possible to include all 250+ interwikies to considerably short main page. In articles, taking up closly related or our second language to top of the interwiki list will sure be an added advantage for readers. Ultimatly wp is sharing informations to its readers. For eg. For Malayalam, a list starting from English, Hindi, Tamil, Kannada, Sanskrit, etc can be handy to many users than providing a list starting 'not even heard' languages. On 03/02/2012, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone tell me how exactly It'd be useful ?, AFAIK we can customize which wikipedias to be shown on Main Page. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: This would be useful. As a side note, if you open the Main Page of any non Indic Wikipedia, you'd notice that there are NO links to any Indian language wikipedia's on the left. Cheers, On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, currently interwiki list is in english alphabetical order. A customizable (both wiki level and user level) interwiki list Will be an added advantage for closly related wiki like ours. There is a very old bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867 i hope adding your inputs, and may be a local consensus page link will pump developer priority there. -- Sent from my mobile device With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talk http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- * *Thanks n Regards Ansuman * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://twitter.com/smileyansu * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ansumang * * ___ * * Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * -- Sent from my mobile device With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Reordering interwiki list
Hi, currently interwiki list is in english alphabetical order. A customizable (both wiki level and user level) interwiki list Will be an added advantage for closly related wiki like ours. There is a very old bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867 i hope adding your inputs, and may be a local consensus page link will pump developer priority there. -- Sent from my mobile device With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] A webfonts discussion
For those who interested : http://aharoni.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/web-fonts-and-web-browsers-why-firefox-is-the-best-choice-for-most-people-who-dont-read-in-the-latin-alphabet/ -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Blackout has started
Or disable javascript :-) (told by U:Subeesh Balan) On 18/01/2012, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: or use the mobile site which is not blacked out: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/?useformat=mobile :) From: amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:34:27 +0200 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Blackout has started 2012/1/18 Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com: hi, The English Wikipedia black out has started - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page It's a great opportunity to read and improve Wikipedias in the languages of India :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Adding categories for multiple images in commons
A tool named cat-a-lot is available for mass category manipulation. On 09/01/2012, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM Subject: Adding categories for multiple images in commons To: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi, I am uploading the images to commons. The default category is TamilWiki Media Contest Want to add more categories for the images. Adding, the categories using HotCat http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-HotCat is so boring and tough. Is there any possibilities for adding categories for multiple images in a single go? -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia
Please read mails in this thread. Counter acting first mail, some people forwarding the idea that one's contribution is relevant if only they are contributing through a free software. Which is totally wrong. Selecting a convenient software is user's option. And even sometimes they have no options other than using a non-free software. Similarly and Unfortunately, your brinjalism has also no relavance in wikimedia contribution environment. On 06/01/2012, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, you don't understand, WHO is forcing you? There is nothing to rebel against. This is my last post on this issue but not on brinjal. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: On a lighter vein, this will give a nice script for a conspiracy theory - * One cannot demoralize a wikimedian by peeping into the license of software which he/she uses to contribute wikimedia projects. * Rest assured, Praveen, that other than hoping that we will get enlightened by expressing their views, FOSS advocates have no agenda towards us non-FOSS Wikimedians. You and I can continue to use Windows/proprietary software and hate brinjals in peace. You may use windows or hate brinjal, don't force me to do exactly same as you. I've my own choice (as any one else). ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Top indic Administrators
On Friday 29 July 2011 03:21 PM, mayur wrote: @Praveen, One more thing regarding my right changes and actions I don't think I should answer it to you. Frankly I hate this kind of attitude. Which is no help for Hindi Wiki Community. You should answer the community for each and every action. And this attitude exactly reflects on excessive abuse filter use. Hindi Wiki (or any other Indian wiki) is no English Wikipedia (English wikipedia itself now suffering the bad effect of excessive warning). I am sure no one will be happy to get warning for their innocent edits. I Spend nearly rest of my time with wiki.The abusefilter that was blocking mayurbot was to filter good articles based on thier size as I was running a application from my bot.To protect article from any harm action I made that filter.I do lots of things for my project whether it is abusefiter or technical deveopment. I think it is better to mentor some users other than using abuse filter on every occasion. If you are not playing on user rights and extensions, why don't you share ur activities, otherwise how we know? But you seem me overjealous of me thats why you are asking such questions. lol This is really sad that you invest a buch of your time to keep trac on me but cann't learned anything.But isten one thing you comments etc cann't demoralise me.I shall continue to work with my project. Mayur, Pls don't get sentimental :), You imported a file from commons [Image:Cave_from_inside.jpg], original was uploaded by me, so I noted it and wonder why. Eventually reached Hindi Wikipedia import log and it didn't make any sense to me. So I checked other logs (which are just clicks away), and I didn't get any ideas from those also. I am surely not on your tail. :) If you can provide some valid reasons, those will be useful to other admins. Best Wishes to you if you can devote your time to do some good activites for your home project rather than keeping track on me. You may check this http://toolserver.org/%7Eluxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=Praveenpblocks=true (pls note that I have not edited hi.wp, all my edits in hi.wp are from *imported images* from *commons*!!) and this http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Praveenp (Hindi doing this locally?, particularly by Mayur http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Top_Indic_Admins?! If so I like to know the reason also). Anyway thanks for the advice. Cheers Regards Mayur Cheers praveenp On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:00 PM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com mailto:mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, So this survey teased you all and also Hindi Wiki extension upgradation teased you all.First of all sorry for that but I can comment rather than smiing on your comments.Hindi Wiki communtiy wanted some extensions that why I requested those extensions and the consensus was in enough mass.All candidates were very active in Hindi Wiki, Not ony Hindi Wikipedians but also some new users from English wiki supported that.There is no harm to avail any facility if there is no security concern.We don't care if anybody outside of our community have some another Concern or thinking however we welcome everybody to comment and keep their views.So think positively so that we may grow our indic wikis.There is no advantage to condem anybody as everyone here is an volunteer and Nobody gets a single paisa for their work. Regarding Survey that was just a statistics like other but my fault was that I conducted it.So we should think and make a cooperative behaviour with each other.However you still want to condem me or Hindi Wiki then proceed further but I shall not waste my time on such nasty matters because I have to do lots of things for my project with my job and I think you all are also busy and dedicated to your wiki project. Best! Mayur On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:09 AM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com mailto:mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Asaf Bartov, Every thing has its own Importance, We need development and progess in each and every area.Adminstrators are first of all supposed to do admin activities as mentioned in this survey bcoz thats why they have given this tool by community. Newbies can be mentored by each Senior user of the community and it should be done as its the most important thing to do for the growth of any wiki project.But we cann't measure this on any scale however a Wiki project growth may show some part of this.I think we need improvement in each and every area.Creating artices are very easy but its very difficult to preserve them on wikipedia as they got vandalised many times so this most important work go to the hands of Administrators.So Doing admin activites as an Administrator is very important
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Top indic Administrators
On Friday 29 July 2011 09:09 AM, mayur wrote: Hi Asaf Bartov, Every thing has its own Importance, We need development and progess in each and every area.Adminstrators are first of all supposed to do admin activities as mentioned in this survey bcoz thats why they have given this tool by community. Newbies can be mentored by each Senior user of the community and it should be done as its the most important thing to do for the growth of any wiki project.But we cann't measure this on any scale however a Wiki project growth may show some part of this.I think we need improvement in each and every area.Creating artices are very easy but its very difficult to preserve them on wikipedia as they got vandalised many times so this most important work go to the hands of Administrators.So Doing admin activites as an Administrator is very important specially in Indic Wiki projects. In my opinion These both are completely different but both are important and need to be taken care. Warm Regards Mayur Mayur may be correct. But I don't understand what he is doing in Hindi wiki. :) Some examples: * I saw he himself changed his account rights many times (http://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Logtype=rightsuser=Mayurpage=year=month=-1tagfilter=hide_review_log=1). * Using 'abuse filter' excessively, such that blocking or warning a new user who did his/her first edit (http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLogwpSearchUser=wpSearchFilter=0wpSearchTitle). (even mayurbot invoking abuse filter!) * Sometimes he even imported commons file to Hindi local (http://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Logpage=Image:Cave%2C+from+inside.jpg) ! I don't know why, but I feel that he is requesting almost every (just exaggerating :)) extension available for mediawiki to Hindi Wikipedia and using Wikipedia as his test wiki. If someone can clarify what he is doing there, probably that will be a great help for admins from other wikies :) praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l
Hi, On Monday 14 February 2011 09:23 AM, Bala Jeyaraman wrote: Hari, As the situation has worsened to the levels that EC is now been accused of being here for swindling money (auctioning off membership) and selective moderation in the mailing list (unfairly in both counts IMO), please be blunt and do clear the air without niceties. The basic questions raised about EC are the following: Actioning off membership is a satiric or exaggerated reply to the mail which has an entirely non-related subject (bank account) from original thread. 1) Why was the election held without informing others of the agenda (the EC answered that it was a required step to formalise the organisation per registration rules, ) 2) Why was the delay in communication about the 22 Jan meeting (the EC answered that as a formal org now, they cannot issue communiques without first having the paperwork in place) More than that, why no mentioning about Jan 22 meeting and about new names in the thread which discussing chapter's transparency (Jan last week). I believe chapter do not need to wait until finishing paperwork for sharing information with community. 3) Why were the leadership designations changed among the EC members. (This hasnt been answered as far as i know) 4) Why was Praveen's mail moderated ( clearly answered; because it got caught in the spam filters due to an embedded HTML) I am pretty much satisfied with 1, 2 and 4. But 3 hasnt been answered and people are now accusing you of being a sekret cabal. I am a new member to the list and as someone uninvolved, my humble suggestions to clear the air are: 1) Answer no 3 and any other questions people have been asking 2) Bluntly define the chapter's role - not the MoA/constitution etc (people are under the impression that the chapter can get involved in deletion discussions in commons) I think Bala misread that mail. Somebody asked me to share any Idea which chapter can run, I said many images originated from India deleted in commons because there is no proper source or license for many images. And if we've proper agreement with any museum or art gallery (most of them are under central or state govts) like Tropenmuseum project, that will be useful. Once chapter initiate such process, I am sure interested people will join and take hold. 3) Get some non EC moderators to the mailing list immediately to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest. regards Bala Praveen ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l
My last message has only 112 kb even with that embedded image. A 112 kb message is not bulky in these days. Some people told me that mail man will not block any message if there is nothing to load from outside. I remember once I used donate to wikipedia image in all my message, but never get any problem in any list. If thats also true for this list, please increase maximum message size for the list (500 kb or atleast 300 kb?). I saw Jyothis' messge to other thread was also under moderation for about 14 hrs (probably because he quoted me :D). On Saturday 12 February 2011 02:44 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: Hi Achal, On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com mailto:aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: As moderators of WikimediaIndia-l, could you describe the policy you normally adopt towards moderation? Thank you for the email. You can review the Wikimedia mailing lists administration page for information about the role of list admins and mods. Here is a link which you can review: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration Do you only block obvious spam or other messages, and if so on what basis? The spam filter on default catches spam and other bulky messages (including ones that have image(s) embedded in them.) I think Delphine's email contains a nice explanation. List mods can moderate trolls and other problem users who willfully cause or contribute to disruption on the mailing list. I am naturally curious since a message from Praveen that you only just released seems to have been sent in 3 days ago. Furthermore, I think we'd benefit from understanding how people may apply to become administrators on this list. I understand the source of curiosity and would like to clarify that Praveen's email was caught in the filter because it had an image embedded in it. In light of Anirudh's recent appointment to administrator of this list, is there an open process by which other members might apply? (Foundation-l seems to have three administrators, though I would imagine that there is nothing stopping WikimediaIndia-l from having more than three). There is no formal process for appointment of list administrators. The usual practice on Wikimedia lists is for the founder of a mailing list to appoint admins and mods whom s/he can trust with keeping the lists running as smoothly as possible. At this point of time, we don't feel the need for having more list administrators, however list subscribers who are interested in keeping a check on the spam filter as moderators can write an email to either list admins. Please note that I don't ask with persecutory intent, but merely to clear gaps in my own understanding, which might be a problem that other people on this list face as well. Since WikimediaIndia-l is such an important place for all kinds of conversations that cut across the movement in India, it's in all our interests to know exactly how it is managed. For more information, please review the following pages: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview Best regards, Achal Best, Anirudh Bhati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter
On Sunday 30 January 2011 11:56 AM, jayanta nath wrote: Nos of edit is not criteria. The chapter created as society so there must be voting system. So not worry!! Then what was the criteria? On Sunday 30 January 2011 01:03 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: Can you please put up your ideas and give some examples so that people here will get some more clarity. As you mentioned, things are fair but not enough please put up your ideas so that things will be enough and more I feel I am keeping myself here without any bruises, even against chapter members, challenging their credibility and ability. For me it is good; but for a community it is bad. That explains a lot. :-( (BTW where is president and some other members of chapter? are they members of this list?) I rmember I asked about chapter's future plans in one of the other threads, but still no answer. Is there any basic ideas about future activities? Where I can find them? May I know, whether asking idea is the basic idea? :) (I dont think it is bad, but a chapter need atleast basic line up. don't give MoA link, I've seen it many times :D) For eg, in commons many images originated from India are deleted or waiting to get deleted, just because no source available saying it is in PD. Chapter can initiate a project to find PD images from India. Any member can find many such issues, if they are wiki-rooted. I didn't said I am an 'idea'(l) man. I tried to say, lack of openness of chapter, non-supportive character and credibility doubts of members of chapter. (I got one more, I think.) For now I said enough. I don't want to start this from very beginning again. I hope chapter will take appropriate measures to erase any doubts of users. Thank you. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter
On 30 January 2011 07:57, CherianTinu Abrahamtinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Changed the subject line again.. ( Subject deviation again :) ) Hi Praveen, May I ask , what is not really clear about the chapter ? Wikimedia India chapter is registered now as a legal entity in India [1] in Jan 2010 ; there is an Executive committee with 7 members , the office bearers are [2] Arun Ramarathnam, President ; BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Secretary ; Arjuna Rao Chavala, Treasurer etc May be it is time for the chapter to open up the membership to the community? or even making the agenda meeting minutes of the Wikimedia India chapter EC available to all like the Wikimedia Foundation Board [3] ( so that these confusions to common Wikimedians can be avoided) ? If there are still any misunderstandings/unclear things, the EC members must be happy to answer them. I'm all excited to see the Wikimedia India chapter getting more active and the chapter community working closely in the coming days. [1] http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Chapter_Registration_accomplished [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA-PostChapComVer [3] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Meetings Regards Tinu Cherian N.B. I am not speaking on behalf of the chapter , neither am I a EC member/ordinary member. My understandings are based on various threads on the mailing lists. :) I believe I've sent a couple of mails on this matter. And on a quick search I found my last query is not answered :( BTW don't interpret my queries as I am a candidate for membership. I do not and will not want any kind of membership there, I've my limitations. But I want it open, I want clear communication, I want answers, I want a clear view of Its procedures and actions. And I am certain that we need more ground based members, who can effectively communicate common users and holding wiki ideology. I expect encouragements from a chapter and its members. But I found no encouragements but teasing from that side in the parent thread. I'm sorry If I hurt anyone; But I really have to ask my doubts, I am an Indian Wikimedian :) On Sunday 30 January 2011 09:26 AM, Gautam John wrote: we still trying to find our feet here. Suggestions are welcome, please. In that case what was the urgency to such a premature creation? As for membership, as soon as we have our bank account which should happen in four weeks or so. I believe I am clear above. May I know how you are connected wikimedia communities? I don't understand that how a man reluctant to edit wikies (UL http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuthtarget=GKJohn) is so passionate to lead other users from WMIN. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter
On Sunday 30 January 2011 11:27 AM, Gautam John wrote: Dear Praveen: In that case what was the urgency to such a premature creation? I don't quite understand - urgency? One can only find one's feet after the body is created, right? Sorry, I think a concrete foundation is necessary to create a body. I believe I am clear above. May I know how you are connected wikimedia communities? I don't understand that how a man reluctant to edit wikies (UL) is so passionate to lead other users from WMIN. Fair criticism Praveen and you aren't the first one to ask either. Wikimedia, to me, is larger than the just projects and embodies philosophies and ideals that I find very dear. Much of my work revolves around these ideals and you can read some of it here: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/24780 I have no desire to lead but one to bootstrap a body that is supportive of the community - of all of you. I am immaterial in the larger scheme of the things and the Chapter should and must be a reflection of the community. Thank you. Fair, But I think not enough :( ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote: Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias *Depths above 300 for Wikipedias http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notes below 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia has its strength and its weakness. Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say thats not wiki style :( . But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will create a great bot :). Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots, most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing the owner (Recent eg: See history of ??:??? http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BEaction=history). Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is not, whenever a bot identified as doing unwanted edit it gets blocked. There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (?) pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic. In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using talk pages aslo very well. It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental to depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Clarification Regarding Kiruba Shankar's Involvement
Yours faithfully, Wikimedia India EC BTW, Who are in EC ? :-/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Clarification Regarding Kiruba Shankar's Involvement
On Tuesday 14 December 2010 07:45 PM, Arun Ramarathnam wrote: Praveen, Please refer the MOA document published in Meta for details requested: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA-ChapComVer I would also suggest you refer the India page for background information: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India regards Arun Thanks, but still unfortunately I cannot blame one Kiruba for self promotion using Wikimedia foundation just because none of the WMIN signatories' activities are clear to others (or atleast to me, may be my wrong). You may know that there is a website for Wikimedia India chapter (http://wikimedia.in/), so if possible, copy those pages to there (most of the Indian wikimedians are not active in meta). Please add brief notes about purpose, current activities (I saw some researchers, consultants, etc) and future blueprints also in the website. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mobile editing reading of Wikipedia
On Tuesday 26 October 2010 10:09 PM, BalaSundaraRaman wrote: I'm able to read Tamil text on Opera Mini browser on my Nokia N72 (with some difficulty). From: Shiju Alexshijualexonl...@gmail.com Rendering of Malayalam script is very bad. Same might be the case with most of the other Indian scripts. (Devanagari might have reasonable support) So this site is of not much use to Malayalam as of now, even though we are regularly updating it. Atleast for some phones its not. I've a Nokia 2700 classic phone, and its Malayalam Rendering is good. With complex text rendered Opera mini, reading Malayalam websites are also not a problem. I remember once Jyothis confirmed that IOS 4 rendering for Malayalam is also good. I bought my Nokia 2700 phone from Kerala. I think its OS is patched for south Indian languages' better display (It has built in support for Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Hindi and English). Only problem with that phone I found is - it has no unicode 5.1 support. It is possible to type in Malayalam from that phone, but from my perspective it is not easy to type Malayalam from that mobile even with its good Malayalam prediction database. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
