that any one
will be a perfect match for another.
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reviews as possible done. I can't tell you how many times
I used to get edit-conflicted by people using review tools when I used to
manually review (and fix) recent changes.
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they have to accept edits from IPs and ranges they've had extremely poor
experience with. AGF is not a suicide pact.
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On 28 September 2013 00:54, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I think a few different concepts are being muddled here.
Flagged revisions (and its variant, pending changes, on enwiki) is
applied
to individual articles
.
Risker
On 21 October 2013 08:32, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I may just be spouting nonsense, but I've heard a few separate people
mention to me that Iceland is an increasingly attractive place for hosting,
as they're in the Schengen area (making it easy to get
projects, but I think sometimes in trying to beautify the site, we
forget the underlying purpose of some of our practices.
Risker
On 29 October 2013 13:51, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
+ wikitech
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
smazel...@wikimedia.org wrote
Likely related to this bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296
It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback
page.
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On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've
later.
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I also agree.
Perhaps more importantly, I don't see any actual argument for *not* using
nofollow. We're not here to drive pagerank for other websites, and our
doing so can be harmful to those sites, or to the article subject.
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On 18 November 2013 09:44, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote
suspect if the Google fellow said anything like this, it
was that they might ignore nofollow on Wikimedia wikis, but I'm pretty
certain that he didn't say Mediawiki wikis. There are thousands and
thousands of them out there that have been completely abandoned to spam.
Risker
of communication processes, and giving consideration to a
quick and straightforward process to reach information that can be done
directly from any WMF wiki, would be a really significant outreach to the
primary users.
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), and they can edit. It is the social and policy-based
processes that prevent Tor users from using Tor to edit. I happen to agree
with those processes (having cleaned up major messes from unblocked Tor
nodes on enwiki), but it's not a technical problem, really.
Risker
On 30 December 2013 18:59, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree fundamentally with your position here. It's technically
possible
for Tor editors to edit; all we have to do is unblock Tor nodes (or for
them
, and
thinks this will be a workaround that will prevent him/her from being
blocked this time.
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up to making big
differences. A line of code here, an improvement there, a side
discussion with someone to suggest a different path...all I can say is
that if I am noticing it, I'm pretty sure a lot of other people are
too.
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: it's the clear favourite of the most active users, it's
still faster after years of improving Vector, and it handles a lot of
accessibility issues much better than Vector (particularly for the visually
impaired, according to those editors I know who have to deal with this).
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to Monobook.
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Thanks for the heads-up, Greg. However, I'm finding that I am being
repeatedly logged out...it's happened every other edit I've made tonight,
which is a real pain. Will report on IRC as well.
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On 8 April 2014 16:57, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote:
FYI to this audience
projects
are growing much faster than the older, Latin-script sites. They're our
future. They have to be in the mix.
Best,
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such a major update because of usability and
readibility issues, there's a major problem here. Just because they aren't
English Wikipedia doesn't mean their issues are minor, and they have the
disadvantage of a language barrier to make their problems known.
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On 9 April 2014 03:01, Steven
, either type of
visitor to Wikimedia sites is more or less important when it comes to
listening to feedback. Even if Nathan was right, sometimes it's hard for us
to balance the two. What I said in reply to Risker is that I don't think
there saying the change is a failure is fair or true, based
I thought it looked like one of those pesky commercial travel sites; it
might be the subject matter, but it just looked so void of content that I
was convinced it was trying to sell me something.
Risker
On 15 April 2014 10:47, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
Well, it does
Welcome, Danny!
Is there a specific product that Danny will be managing?
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On 25 April 2014 10:58, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Everyone,
I am pleased to announce that Danny Horn is joining the Product Development
team as Product Manager. His first day was Monday April
.
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to content quality
reviews to RFA to any other process that isn't actually creation or editing
of content is going to be perceived as anything but the WMF sticking
its nose into areas that are none of its business.
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I do urge you to start such a discussion, bawolff. It would seem to me
that a one- or two-week RFC should be sufficient to opt out contributions
to MediaWiki. I'd be happy to support, even though it's more likely that
I'll star in the next James Bond film than ever write a line of code.
Risker
.
Part of the issue faced by developers is the fact that there is really no
viable method by which to label their contributions as paid. Doesn't
mean the TOU doesn't apply.
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Thank you, Luis. I have drafted a request for comment on mediawiki.org
[1], but it can probably use some review to ensure I have included the
correct list of related projects.
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[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Alternate_disclosure_policy
On 16 June 2014 18:25
, or there would have been a bigger problem.
Testwiki is for testand if you must test on enwiki, do it in userspace.
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for just a minute...it's essential information
for having any chance at all of identifying multiple accounts or pattern
editing; however, the tables used by checkusers are non-public so
Checkusers continuing to have access to IP data should not be an issue.
Risker/Anne
On 11 July 2014 10:25, Tyler
to grab a screenshot and send it in.
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On 14 July 2014 01:03, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have uploaded a new version of the Winter framework/prototype,
v. 0.6.
http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/winter/
This version has
Just to note, I've sent the screenshot directly to Brandon; I also
forwarded a copy to this list but because of the size the email needs to go
through moderation.
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On 14 July 2014 08:55, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Brandon for letting us know about this. Since
it there; the problem isn't really the format, it's
the quality and relative importance of the information.
Risker
On 14 July 2014 16:06, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I want to suggest that we give Brandon a lot of slack here, and be as
supportive as possible.
This is a prototype of a design
distractions :)
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, but then they'd want to be sent back
to the watchlist.
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On 15 July 2014 14:49, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/146515
--
Tyler Romeo
0x405D34A7C86B42DF
From: Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com
Reply: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l
.
Or alternately have a log out on this device/log out everywhere option.
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from the library wi-fi); it would be a
pain to have to keep updating preferences everytime one of those situations
occurs.
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right now so
can't give you any links.)
Hope that helps.
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As someone with one of those high risk accounts, one time passwords would
be more likely to make me drop those permissions. Any administrator has a
high risk account given the opportunities that they have.
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On 7 August 2014 07:59, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we
On 7 August 2014 10:49, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
As someone with one of those high risk accounts, one time passwords
would
be more likely to make me drop those permissions. Any administrator has
a
high risk
ID sends a second password
as a text to a mobile) and means having more expensive technology) or using
technology like dongles that cannot be sent to users in certain countries.
I stick to my strong passwords and also subscribe to the xkcd password
theory.[1]
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[1] https
various functions,
identify issues, and report them. Making it as easy as possible for them to
do so will produce the best response.
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of a legitimate concern about that
editor's behaviour.
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Well done, very pleased to see that the careful planning paid off so well.
I raise a glass in honour of those who worked so hard to make this an
almost invisible operation.
Risker
On 22 January 2013 19:04, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote:
So seamless. Well done!
--tomasz
On Tue, Jan
), and there are huge regions where IP
data cannot be considered at all accurate: for example, most of the Middle
East.
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for the English Wikipedia Arbcom wiki tonight.
But thanks for working on this.
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the
subdomain's cert changed.
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On 13 March 2013 00:30, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean: https://arbcom.en.wikipedia.org ?
Our certificates have never covered that. That's a sub-sub domain, and our
certs only cover single subdomains. We really need to rename all of our
sub-sub
On 13 March 2013 00:50, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, that's the wiki I mean. And I can see your point about all those
sub-subdomains; there must be a stack of them. The domain name was
changed
fairly recently
.
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On 5 April 2013 22:24, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 April 2013 19:07, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de
wrote:
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Sorry, I
this software now. That's what test wikis are for, and
what voluntary project participation is for.
Best,
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more cohesive, less
diverse projects for their ability to come to well-discussed, well-reasoned
decisions in a timely way. I think there are lessons out there for English
Wikipedia to learn.
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On 6 April 2013 12:47, Eran Rosenthal eranro...@gmail.com wrote:
In hewiki we had
On 8 April 2013 09:20, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Apr 8, 2013 12:11 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
As I've indicated very early in this thread, Phase 2 affects an area of
English Wikipedia that is already under considerable dispute (i.e.,
infoboxes); requests
On 8 April 2013 12:51, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the way
that Wikidata is being weaponized as the reason for attempting to force
changes
On 9 April 2013 12:15, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Risker,
I find myself unconvinced by your argumentation as I perceive it as
inconsistent.
On the one hand, you suggest that before we enable the option to access
data from Wikidata using either Lua or a parser
off-list if
you think this would be helpful in making a decision. Meanwhile, the main
participants of this list can probably answer more of the technical
questions.
Best,
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in
plain language without jargon. Get someone with limited techie vocabulary
and understanding to copy edit your communication.
These are useful, and fairly standard, communication processes. Here's
hoping that a good solution can be found, for everyone's sake.
Risker/Anne
. There are already
several bugzillas related to the nowiki tags, as well as to table
editing, so the community liaisons patrolling that page might be able to
quickly link the new bugzilla to existing ones.
Risker
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback
that close to the top priority,
particularly as categorization is almost exclusively done by experienced
editors.
I note that someone commented below about WikiLove. While it's a nice
extension, it's also had to be disabled on multiple occasions on enwiki for
various problems.
Risker
of feedback.
There is also some related discussion on the Flow portal.[1] It might be an
idea to pull all of this information together.
Risker
[1]
http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flow_Portaloffset=20130718154450lqt_mustshow=30657#Maths_30340
pages,
as well, particularly as we add sister projects to the mix.
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(exceptions to project consensus)[1] has been invoked in regard to this.
Therefore the correct place to appeal the decision is with the community
of Wikimedia developers and (maybe) WMF staff, and one of the most
effective ways of getting the eyes of both groups is to launch and comment
on Bugzillas.
Risker
this when you have more than enough issues to fix.
Risker
[1]http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/datasources
On 23 July 2013 00:01, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm glad that Tim is bringing some facts and numbers that back up what the
community is demanding.
To do otherwise
on the investment in
these other projects until you have this one right. For all the
disagreements there may be, I don't think anyone really wants to believe
that you'd rather 90% of experienced editors leave than have to change your
vision.
Risker
On 23 July 2013 02:35, Erik Moeller e
the issue. Maybe a new A/B test is merited
after some time.
You pretty much had one chance at A/B testing, and it's done now. You
can't repeat the tests as long as VE is the default editor.
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Why do you think those nowiki tags were added by the editors?
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On 23 July 2013 15:32, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote:
In the interest of gathering slightly larger statistics, I manually
reviewed 200 VE entries on recent changes.
I am classifying these as
* Good edit
* Test
deployment.
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will be the default editor. There is
nothing that I could find that said that the existing preference would be
disabled.
Risker
[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals
[2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/status
Just one question from a relatively non-technical person: What falls off
the map if everything is done using SSL? Is this the protocol that would
make it essentially impossible to read/edit Wikipedia using a normal
internet connection from China?
Risker
On 31 July 2013 15:12, Magnus Manske
I can tell, it is
affecting EVERY lists.wikimedia.org mailing list, with the possible
exception of the checkuser mailing list. I do not know what is different
about that one.
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(I'm guessing it might be some special user permission similar to IP-block
exemption, but that may just be my non-technicalese speaking.)
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On 19 August 2013 21:09, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 August 2013 20:35, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com
wrote:
Quick question
On 19 August 2013 21:31, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 August 2013 21:09, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 August 2013 20:35
On 19 August 2013 23:07, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, see. The problem is that the home projects for these editors are
not
Farsi or Chinese, they are English or German or Commons or Meta (and a
few
in and to
move across multiple projects, and doing so should not be considered an
*enhancement*, it should be considered a required feature of the new
process. (It may not be a blocker, but I'd hope to see this fixed before
the end of the month.)
Risker
on Commons or Meta is a
significant problem. It's bad enough when that is caused by external
forces outside of WMF control; it's disturbing when it is being caused by
WMF itself.
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on this. I recently attended an
edit-a-thon at the Royal Ontario Museum, and pointed the attendees (and
ROM staff/interns) to this app - they were extremely enthusiastic, and I
have a feeling we've already seen some images from them.
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primary mission. For
that, you need to actively persuade the community in general that this is
necessary, and possibly even the Board of Trustees.
Risker
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline
On 21 August 2013 00:08, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
On 08/20/2013 11:05 PM, Risker wrote:
Perhaps then you might want to re-familiarize yourself with the WMF's
policy on political advocacy
I'm sorry Risker, but you've got this backwards. Making a long-overdue
/minimal/ fix
average margins of error.
It would be interesting to see how the numbers stabilize over time.
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been working on this.
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have difficulty using HTTPS, and I
have already initiated an offline discussion with Chris and others at the
WMF about this.
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On 23 August 2013 17:10, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
On 08/23/2013 04:35 PM, Risker wrote:
I'd like to see what can be developed, however, to support
Checkusers/Oversighters/Stewards who have difficulty using HTTPS
Pretty much by definition the accounts holding those bits
On 23 August 2013 18:13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
As I said, Marc, there's already an offline discussion happening looking
for ways to effectively manage this without outright banning editors from
those
On 23 August 2013 18:35, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 August 2013 23:31, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
There are other options. The question is whether or not they can be made
to
work in the MediaWiki/WMF circumstances. If you looked at the data
collected to see where
, I can't support
allowing unbridled Tor editing on at least that project.
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about security issues and solutions would necessarily take place
on this mailing list, or even on a public mailing list.
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On 23 August 2013 19:55, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
No it doesn't change the security consideration. What changes is the
recognition that the problem may actually be bigger than initially
thought.
Everyone
, the entire footer section looks awful (strange line breaks,
words running together). This is a formatting rather than content issue,
so tweaking can be done without affecting content.
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Looking forward to seeing the end result!
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[1] non-permanent link:
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team if an unexpected change is made, so finding a
better way to resolve these issues would be mutually beneficial.
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On 14 May 2012 12:07, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
Thats actually quite an interesting thought, and it could well be
true, even if it is the opposite
into pages in user space on a single project,
when this is a global change?
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On 7 June 2012 13:49, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote:
Once figured out, might be a good idea to add them to:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jonathan_de_Boyne_Pollard
On 8 June 2012 04:08, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/6/7 Risker risker...@gmail.com:
The first IPv6 edit to English Wikipedia required suppression, I have
been
advised, so I think there are some valid concerns about the implications
this change will have on vandalism management
On 8 June 2012 07:33, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 June 2012 11:49, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I have never said that moving to IPv6 is a bad idea. What I am
complaining about is the dismissive attitude taken toward the volunteers
that are stuck cleaning up
-produced tools are or
are not functioning well.
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they figured out how to add
Firefox accessibility to the VPN, I had to keep IE7 on one of my home
computers for those occasions when I work off-site.
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is becoming overwhelming. This issue has
been reported separately, and there may be a different fix, but this is a
pretty big deal as a few hundred volunteer hours a month are going into the
despamming effort.
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On 31 July 2012 22:25, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Risker wrote:
Putting on my checkuser hat for a moment - yes, please please look at
finding a different CAPTCHA process - the cross-wiki spamming by bots
that
are able to break the CAPTCHA is becoming overwhelming. This issue has
to significantly affect
multiple facets of the user experience. It has the potential to be a very
big win for everyone - developers, editors, and even readers.
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