Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Scott Reed
I use the Trendnet TEW423-BRP (I think that is the right number) Mike Hammett wrote: Too expensive for a home router. I do use them most everywhere else, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
It's got a similar reset process to a Linksys, hold reset button while cycling power. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Hot glue in the reset hole and a bit of black tape over it hides it enough to discourage the resets. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:05 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Probably the 432. I don't believe you can disable the routing feature to make it bridge. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Scottie Arnett
I have used these without problems. http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=usbid=2pgid=82_10pid=428 They have an option to do bridging, but I have never used it. They are not a big name brand, but for less than $40 wholesale, I can't complain. Scottie -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Who do you use as a distributor? We used to go with Ma-Labs but their prices crept up too high on most of the things we purchased. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:19

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread eje
Why not instead load a default script onto the router so if the customer use the reset button it reset to a working default mode. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:24:11 To: 'WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Mikrotik's don't get reset so you're solving a problem that isn't one. Also Mikrotik RBs are too expensive for this application. If the 750 had WiFi... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Mike
Not sure if Linksys has fixed it, but we determined a while back the lockup problem with them was the lack of robustness in their power supply. They work fine in the city where the electricity doesn't sag or spike, but in the country they are always locking up. Wind blows trees against

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
The old power supplies were decent and I still have them around here but the new ones are small and pop easily. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Kevin Neal
Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an

[WISPA] FW: RAD/Radwin x Wi-Fi

2009-09-21 Thread Matt Musial
Answer to Rubens' post on September 18th. Please let us know if you have any further questions regarding the Winlink1000 or Radwin2000. Matt Musial Radwin, Director of Sales Cell- 562-659-1358 Radwin's radios consists of 802.11a or 802.11n modem chipset wrapped up with proprietary radio

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-21 Thread David E. Smith
Charles Wu wrote: Hi David, While I applaud your efforts in being involved with the broadband stimulus, it is my understanding that MVN.net is/was applying for stimulus funds for Round 1 -- maybe I'm missing something, but I can't figure out how you'd be able to over-come the conflict of

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
That's just crazy money. I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here. I decided to just look for some land. With that kind of money it just makes sense to own and not lease around here. I have 3 towers in storage but have been hesitant to do much with them. Thanks

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Randy Cosby
I have found the leasing relatively cheap. The expensive parts are the engineering studies, application fees, and the almost-impossible-to-afford insurance you'll need before putting anything on the tower. FWIW, Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I need to hang a pac grid and a MT 411 board and run a cat5 line up to it. Seems like an engineering study is way overkill! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:11 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
411, with an atheros card, won't pick up non-atheros noise. Canopy SMs on the other hand will. AWESOME spectrum analyzer tools. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-21 Thread Jack Unger
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. I see a potential conflict of interest issue here. An employee of a large telecom company could be a volunteer who reviews applications received from WISPs and rejects them. As long as the reviewer wasn't "involved" in the large telecom company's application and the WISP

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Randy Cosby
Hah... Just wait. They will need to know exactly what brand of antenna, case, and even cat5e you are using. Randy Robert West wrote: I need to hang a pac grid and a MT 411 board and run a cat5 line up to it. Seems like an engineering study is way overkill! :) -Original

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread lakeland
Add to that installation and maintenance. Crown requires you use approved contractors Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:21:24 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I wonder how many large companies have paid their employees to be volunteers??? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Scott Reed
Not too mention the fee for this and the fee for that and the feet dragging and the fee they tell you about while you are installing and the fact that your climbers have to certified by them and... Never again will I lease from Crown. Robert West wrote: That's just crazy money. I can put up

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Jack Unger
Hi John, I appreciate hearing your thoughts and I believe that I understand the ISP concerns that new regulations may force ISPs to pass large or unlimited amounts of traffic to the detriment of 1) other ISP customers and 2) the financial well-being of the ISP. Again the two main Network

[WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread David E. Smith
http://openinternet.gov/read-speech.html In addition to the four classic Network neutrality principles, the FCC plans to pursue two more. Quotes from the speech: * The fifth principle is one of non-discrimination -- stating that broadband providers cannot discriminate against particular

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread RickG
Crown Castle is one of the worst companies (think ATT) I have ever dealt with. They dont know their right hand from the left. Dont expect anything to get done, especially billing. -RickG On 9/21/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread RickG
They can pry my firewall from my cold, dead hands. -RickG On 9/21/09, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: http://openinternet.gov/read-speech.html In addition to the four classic Network neutrality principles, the FCC plans to pursue two more. Quotes from the speech: * The fifth principle is

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
That's the one I have issue with. That would cause me to think I need a 1 to 1 ratio on bandwidth or at least close to it. This one item brings the cause for metered bandwidth to the top of my list of things to push for. Honestly, I'd rather not meter the bandwidth just for the sake of image but

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Isn't the 28th amendment the right to keep and bear firewalls? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Steve Barnes
For everyone's info I have had a terrible experience with CrowneCastle as well. However, you need to be aware that CrowneCastle is Now a Vendor Member Of WISPA as of a few weeks ago. They were giving WISPA discounts at many levels. Look into this if you are interested in dealing with them.

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Bret Clark
Well, early on it was a pain to deal with them, but after working with them now we've been able to get things moving a little faster but cost can suck. The engineering fee is BS but they won't budge on it; that will set you back about $1800. Plus you need $10 Mil in liability insurance if you

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Data Technology
What about spam? Even though there are laws against spam would we be breaking the law by blocking it if this law is passed? Would we have to pass all content and allow all spam? Then if we accidentally block something our system thought was spam but was not we might really be in trouble. LaRoy

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread RickG
LOL! Can we get that through congress :) What is so sad is that the government claims thery want transparency yet they do the opposite. What I want to know from anyone here is what and how do you block specific content. Thats for the hosting companies, not the access providers. -RickG On 9/21/09,

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
I can't agree more. Blocking (0 bits passed) is constitutionally wrong IMO. Since I can no longer distinguish legal traffic from illegal traffic I have to allow it all. Shaping/Throttling/Caps is not only 100% within my rights, but as an ISP is prudent and a critical part of my business model

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
I read the Fifth as I cannot discriminate - meaning block this but not that. It says nothing about shaping. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:33 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its not easy to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a linksys. Its a double edge sword. But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply because the Linksys's crap out so often, and because

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick
The FCC has said that you cannot de-prioritize any type of traffic. You have to do it by prioritizing other types of traffic. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, September

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
With the possible exception of Australia, I don't think anyone has a true transparent internet. All governments, including the US, have their blacklist. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 21,

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Bartosch
If you're rate limiting in a neutral way, why would it bring your network to its knees? Doesn't matter who the packets are coming from or going to if you rate limit the total number of packets a user can generate/receive, right? Chuck On Sep 21, 2009, at 12:33 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Limiting the number of packets would indeed be the neutral way, in my opinion. But what problems would that cause with Voip and video? You certainly have to give priority to Voip. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here Depend on the location. In my town, it will cost $17,000 minimum just for the first phase of a special exception process with County Zoning. Then what if you need to get up 300-400ft? 300-400ft towers are way more

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
To this day I have never seen a MT default excluding reinstallation. Excluding having the customer do work, the MT options. If you have MT as your wireless CPE - you're screwed if it is defaulted. Default config will not set wlan1 so it must be manually done. If you have another device as

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
You can setup a default script to be used during Netinstall. This will default it back to YOUR original settings. No matter how many times they default/reset it, it will go back to the way you set it up using a script during Netinstall. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Wow you are my hero. Best quote I have ever seen. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Sep 21, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Chuck - tried this with a wireless card? As of v3 they starting doing int wireless set 0 name=blah ssid=blah so it may be possible now... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-21 Thread Jack Unger
David, I'm grateful for your post because it provides new information that I did not know. After reading it, and hearing that you can only review applications in states where your employer does NOT do business and that several reviewers read each application, I feel somewhat more

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
What's the difference between prioritizing all traditional services above other and deprioritizing the bad ones below other? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Yeah, here it's just a 500 buck inspection fee for a communications tower. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick
You'd have to ask the FCC. Seems like it's the opposite side of the same coin. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-21 Thread David Hulsebus
Many government grant programs are reviewed by three people and then scores averaged in round 1. A number are tossed out during that round based on their scores. The ones tossed are then looked at by a government reviewer for concurrence with the first three pairs of eyes. Just my past

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Scottie Arnett
Lets go ahead and let all the viruses and spam through too. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:33:26 -0500 http://openinternet.gov/read-speech.html

[WISPA] Facebook fan page

2009-09-21 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I'm thinking there should be a list on the WISPA page for it's member's Facebook fan pages (assuming you're in on the social marketing train)? Thoughts? Apparently if you have more than 100 fans you can get a custom URL from Facebook. We are just over 60 fans. Can I get some help from our WISPA

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Profito
OH GOOD POINT!!! How could we dare discriminate against the poor troublemakers and doo doo gooders, phishers and thieves? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:08 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
I think you're all jumping to conclusions. There will be modifications. You will probably find that you'll be able to limit outgoing bittorrent and block spam from botnetted machines, block illegal activity, etc. How do you determine illegal bittorrent (uploading of copyrighted content,

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Just needed to be worded based on service or type of traffic not destination. All TOS byte 184 traffic priority 1 All DNS priority 2 All HTTP priority 4 etc... WE DO NOT want cnn.com, twcbc.com, abc.com priority 1 google.com yahoo.com priority 2 whitehouse.com superhotstuffhere.com

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
I said this in another post, but they're talking about keeping Time-Warner Cable from prioritizing Time-Warner entertainment's content over NBC, or myspace over facebook or youtube over hulu not whether or not you can block outgoing smtp traffic from a bot-netted machine or illegal uploads of

[WISPA] OT: Rouge antispyware

2009-09-21 Thread Scottie Arnett
Does anyone have a complete list of URL's that these rouge antispyware programs use to deposit their payload? I am talking Personal Antivirus, Windows Police Pro, Antivirus 2009, etc... I found this site that list URL's for each separately: http://www.spywarevoid.com/ . My idea is to block all

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread David E. Smith
Curtis Maurand wrote: I think they're saying things like Time-Warner can't prioritize CNN (which is owned by Time, Inc.) over MSNBC or Youtube over hulu, etc. That may be what they mean, but that sure isn't what they're saying (or at least that's not what it sounds like from way up here in

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
Excactly. --C Josh Luthman wrote: Just needed to be worded based on service or type of traffic not destination. All TOS byte 184 traffic priority 1 All DNS priority 2 All HTTP priority 4 etc... WE DO NOT want cnn.com, twcbc.com, abc.com priority 1 google.com yahoo.com priority 2

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Mike
Would we REALLY want the gov micromanaging our networks THAT close? At 02:26 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Just needed to be worded based on service or type of traffic not destination. All TOS byte 184 traffic priority 1 All DNS priority 2 All HTTP priority 4 etc... WE DO NOT want cnn.com,

[WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Nick Huanca
Hi all, I currently am working on a project to develop a sustainable, manufacturer agnostic, easy to maintain and provision authentication system for our ISP. We have a mix of access points from Alvarion, Trango, MikroTik, Canopy, and others. We're currently running a distributed PPPoE model with

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Jack Unger
David, Regarding WISPA plans to adopt any official position on Network Neutrality...that process is always active but it does have a number of steps. 1. We've got to see what rules the FCC actually proposes. 2. We need to get general agreement (probably a majority view since getting

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Sounds like a job for FreeRADIUS to me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:48 PM,

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Right, which is why I phrased it that way. You can't deprioritize anything, but you can prioritize anything (based upon what I've read on this list). They accomplish the same thing, but at face value, one is permissible the other is not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I have MT CPE, but the only time I've had to touch them is if I upgraded the firmware to something I shouldn't have and it crapped out. Some people have their internal AP built on a bigger RB, but that's more of a pain than I care to deal with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
The best suggestion I can offer you is that you should look into the folks who are doing this type of setup in the DSL world. Centrally authenticating / servicing 1000 to 100,000 subs is not un-common in the wireline world. Redback SMS500 or SMS1000/SMS1800 would easily terminate 1000 subs. You

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Baird
We use a Redback SMS1 to terminate our DSL/Wireless/Fiber/T1 customers via PPPoE/Bridges and Vlan's. Our wireless/DSL are all pppoe. I use the redback's tcp policing on the wireless clients, any radius server that's capable of using standard dictionary files will do. I use a cistron based

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Randy Cosby
We're doing this with Cisco 65xx switches. Each tower comes in as a separate vlan, we do the PPPOE at the switch. We restrict all traffic from the towers (except to/from private IP management interfaces) to PPPOE. We use Radiator Radius with MySQL as a database backend. ~1500 PPPOE

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm pretty safe with my opinion. Get the hell out of my business, government. BTW: Hulu is owned by ABC, NBC, Fox, and the tech company that came up with it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Rouge antispyware

2009-09-21 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/9/21 Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com: Does anyone have a complete list of URL's that these rouge antispyware programs use to deposit their payload? I am talking Personal Antivirus, Windows Police Pro, Antivirus 2009, etc... I found this site that list URL's for each separately:

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 13:01 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with Mikrotik OS, to support the above common compatibilty things? So a rookie techs can configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a Linksys? How easy

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Jason Hensley
I think first off, why the concern over Mikrotik longevity? Do you not think the company will be around, or do you just not see it scaling (for whatever reason) to the level that you want / need? Personally, I'm not sure what you're looking for that's not already out there. Build a mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Well, you know some of those virus's may be important to the person who is downloading them. Who am I to judge? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:01 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I know, I know. But in reality, this is how things are stretched and twisted to where it's fact. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:24 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Why do you put superhotstuffhere.com as 8? Some of us count on that every morning. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Some of us don't need porn every morning and those that do won't admit nor complain about it. Saves us bandwidth. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
For those that have not yet read it, the relevent site to read is http://www.openinternet.gov/read-speech.html We need to realize and seperate two things... 1) that the intent of NetNeutrality expressed at this site, is an idealalistic view, to keep the Internet open and free, which is

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
There was a time when that was the case... But Crown has evolved in recent years, and their staff as well are learning more about the value of the WISP market, and what costs our market will bear. For me Crown has been a pleasure to work with. Just like any relationship, to get good terms,

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Worldwide, the US ISPs don't have that much power. See Comcast tell DT, PCCW, NTT, etc. to fly a kite and Comcast will be the odd man out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi

Re: [WISPA] OT: Rouge antispyware

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Okay, there is no list of sites. We are also a retail computer repair shop and we have been dealing with this program for over a year now. The story is, it's first job is to see if you design websites. If you do and you use something like FrontPage, it will steal your login info, go to your

Re: [WISPA] OT: Rouge antispyware

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
OpenDNS won't block it. I run OpenDNS and still come across it because it infects the sites you are trying to open. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:20 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I think that's an excellent idea! At least for the wireless side of things where we have to run things tight. We are a bit of a different animal from Comcast and Time Warner. Hell, some of us use them as the upstream provider! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I really think the market should dictate how it's ran. That's the American way, at least it's supposed to be. If my customers are having all sorts of issues that this is to address, I think I'd hear about it. For the most part, it's all My utorrent isn't fast!. Hardly ever that the video is

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
But why wait for the FCC? Why not be pro-active? We already know our concerns and we could at least list the ways we would like to see this type of thing designed. To just react to something isn't being the leader. We should be at the front of this thing. At least that's what I feel I should

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I've been trying to get around to FreeRADIUS. Do you use that, Josh? I've been looking at Radius Manager as well and have the download but have yet to do a darn thing with any of it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Uh.. That seems to be double speak. Isn't putting priority on something de-prioritizing the things under it? That's government for you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 21,

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
I do not personally, no. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Robert West

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Jeremy Davis
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 17:36 -0400, Robert West wrote: I've been trying to get around to FreeRADIUS. Do you use that, Josh? I've been looking at Radius Manager as well and have the download but have yet to do a darn thing with any of it. I have been using it for almost 10 years and its one of

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Was a joke. But some who need porn in the morning.. that's just weird. But again, who am I to judge?! (Is there really a superhotstoffhere.com) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday,

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
No I haven't. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Tim Sylvester
I have deployed FreeRADIUS for large ISPs terminating PPPoE on Cisco (14,000 subs) and RedBack gear (200K subs). Works great. Tim Disclaimer: By day I am a FreeRADIUS consultant. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Ah, an unbiased opinion! An honest man I see. I'll install the thing someday. I'm only 2 years behind in my to-do list. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:59 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Dennis Burgess
We have PowerRouter 732s (under 1500 MSRP) doing over 2500 PPPoE sessions without issues, and PowerRouter 2282s with over 5k currently. Just a FYI. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link

[WISPA] Used Tropos Mesh Equipment

2009-09-21 Thread Lakeland
This is from the Tower Pro list. I have nothing to do with the equipment. It is posted for information only. If you buy any tell Zack to mail the 10% check to WISPA. -B- Hey all I recently got the opportunity to buy a lot of

Re: [WISPA] Used Tropos Mesh Equipment

2009-09-21 Thread Jack Weinberg
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Re: [WISPA] Facebook fan page

2009-09-21 Thread Martha Huizenga
That would be great. However, I read that it's 1000 fans to get your own URL. I am hoping I was wrong! I am only in the teens : ( Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook

Re: [WISPA] Maxrad adjustable sector antennas

2009-09-21 Thread Jayson Baker
Tessco On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Where are you buying them? Jayson Baker wrote: 2GHz or 5GHz? We used the 5GHz adjustable's years ago, and their performance was awesome. Just bought some of the 2GHz version to do some testing with. Not sure

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Nick Huanca
Dennis, You have a very interesting product line. I appreciate your feed back on the options that are available today with MikroTik. Looks like something worth investigating. --Nick Huanca On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote: We have PowerRouter 732s

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Nick Huanca
Hi Tim, Do you know if the Cisco products or the Redback products support bursting based on RADIUS attributes? Thanks, --Nick Huanca On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.comwrote: I have deployed FreeRADIUS for large ISPs terminating PPPoE on Cisco (14,000

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Nick Huanca
I would like to thank all those who responded for their insight and experience. I had not seen if anyone had any experience with IPv6 implementations and PPPoE. Anyone out there running v6 networks? Thanks, On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Nick Huanca n...@gaw.com wrote: Hi all, I currently

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