Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-15 Thread RickG
List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the warm fuzzies about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with my 2.4

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Scott Carullo
- snow or not... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge I guess I didn't make

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Robert West
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Yep. Just one last lonely 433 board with an XR2 card. However we DO still use

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Bret Clark
We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both the CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at layer 2, but layer 3. On 09/13/2010 10:43 PM, RickG wrote: Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Jeremie Chism
What specific rules did you add for your voip. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:21 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both the CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at layer 2, but

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Bret Clark
First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM. Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2 priority WMM needs: /ip firewall mangle add action=set-priority chain=prerouting comment=VoIP WMM disabled=no new-priority=from-dscp passthrough=yes protocol=\

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 9/14/2010 01:56 AM, Robert West wrote: You be right! I have one hub with multiple backhauls on it. My problem was always the sectors being 15 to 19dbi gain but the grids being a good 29. My furthest out is 20 miles, not good for a 15dbi sector, but most other AP's can see the hub's sectors

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM. Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2 priority WMM needs

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread RickG
:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:00 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Your welcome! I put them up earlier this year. The first station was a RocketM5 Dish, 13 miles out

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread RickG
Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bret Clark *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:56 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread RickG
vision. Hm Me- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge At 9/13/2010

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge I guess I didn't make myself clear. They are not concerned about slow speeds of downloads more of a matter

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Greg
Capped with a dummy load? Or do you have the chain (transmitter) off via configuration? Greg On 9/14/10 12:57 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: I'd argue you'd be better off trying to add a second AP to the sector, and be satisfied with fewer customers per sector. That would also allow you to ahve a

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread RickG
- Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge I guess I didn't make myself clear. They are not concerned about slow speeds of downloads more of a matter

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Blair Davis
Netstream has worked to do this for years. My first PtMP backhaul system was TurboCell based. did us fine for years. Fred Goldstein wrote: At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-14 Thread Blair Davis
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the "warm fuzzies" about my RocketM5 sector

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Josh Luthman
What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now? On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Barnes
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now? On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE's are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Bret Clark
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 1:34 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now? On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, Steve Barnes st

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Josh Luthman
AP. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge What kind of bandwidth are you

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no matter what time. Just be ready for three things, you can't put usernames in the ACL

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Barnes
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Or have you tried different channels? Is it a newer radio in the MT so you can do a spectrum analysis? I would

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread John Vogel
Can the UBNT co-exist with MT APs in the same environment or will the UBNT wipe out all other 802.11x based APs on nearby channels within hearing distance? On 9/13/2010 1:10 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Josh Luthman
I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said complaints about slowdowns. I would say TDMA would be the best bet to solve this problem cost effectively. If you half the channel size, half the number of clients. Not the other way around. Can the UBNT co-exist Contract issues

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Bret Clark
We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our users. On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said complaints about slowdowns. I would say

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Barnes
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no matter what time. Just be ready

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Josh Luthman
, September 13, 2010 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch.  I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Justin Wilson
st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:30:04 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Forbes, so are you saying: if I change and go to a Rocket with Airmax dual pol antenna and I have a client

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Glenn Kelley
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Forbes, so are you saying: if I change and go to a Rocket with Airmax dual pol antenna and I have a client with a UBNT Bullet M2 HP Connected to a Laird 24Dbi Grid Vertical only dish, that even though the Bullet has Airmax as part

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
Of *Forbes Mercy *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 2:11 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from their rather wild 30

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Barnes
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point - it cannot be beat however On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Justin

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Glenn Kelley
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point - it cannot be beat however On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: Polling is what makes systems like Canopy and Nstreme shine. The polling is different

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Pat O'Connor
In my experience Tranzeo and UBNT don't play nice together. If you don't mind switching out your tranzeo CPE's with UBNT gear you'll be fine. Steve Barnes wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Tony C. Loosle
Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Mike Hammett
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org x-msg://84/wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Forbes, so are you saying: if I change and go to a Rocket with Airmax dual pol antenna and I have a client with a UBNT Bullet M2 HP Connected to a Laird 24Dbi Grid Vertical only dish

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Travis Johnson
, September 13, 2010 3:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point - it cannot be beat however On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: Polling is what makes systems like Canopy and Nstreme shine

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Barnes
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge More than 50 per any AP and you're running out of bandwidth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Mike Hammett
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 3:45 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge More than 50 per any AP and you're running out of bandwidth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Jeremie Chism
Link. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge More than 50 per any AP

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Chris Hudson
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Or have you tried different channels? Is it a newer radio in the MT so you can do a spectrum analysis? I

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Robert West
Works fine. I’m now 99.999% UBNT! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Taking the plunge All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread RickG
Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the warm fuzzies about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with my 2.4 sectors since the last go around was a flop. After upgrading

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread RickG
Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our users. On 09/13/2010

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Robert West
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the warm fuzzies about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with my 2.4 sectors since

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread RickG
From what I can tell, any legacy radio, including UBNT's own do not get along with M AP's. I've had issues and have been switching out M AP's for standard UBNT units on my repeaters to resolve the problem. Once I have client base switched out to M units, I'll switch back to M AP's. MM's - do you

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread RickG
Whats the .001 unit? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Works fine. I’m now 99.999% UBNT! *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM *To:*

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Philip Dorr
probably a mikrotik router or two On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the .001 unit? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Works fine.  I’m now 99.999% UBNT! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and make it my own. Nuff said. Why not? I'm working on a design now that has 15-20 access points fed from a sector antenna on a tower. (I couldn't put that many

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread RickG
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the warm fuzzies about my

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread RickG
I know a guy in Florida who put up a PTP link for every customer! Of course, that was from the rooftop of a high rise. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Robert West
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge probably a mikrotik router or two On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the .001 unit? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Works fine. I’m now

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Robert West
: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Your welcome! I put them up earlier this year. The first station was a RocketM5 Dish, 13 miles out. Truly set it and forget it! It worked so well that it threw me for a loop when I had issues

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Robert West
Kinky. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge I know a guy in Florida who put up a PTP link for every customer! Of course

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Robert West
] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and make it my own. Nuff said