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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Fw: [isp-clec] FCC & DSL-WBIA
ACTIONRecommendation
The other day, I stated what you just said, an
FWIW, the Bells ARE AWARE that WISPs exist and are figuring out what to do
about them...(I can attest to this personally)
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
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August 15-17, 2005
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If all the WISPs in the country banded together we wouldn't be a
pimple on the ass of a Telco like the Bells. We are so far from even
being thought of as a mosquito in a heard of Elephants compared to the
ILECs. You may scare some folks with that statement, but those of us who
have been
APC is useless if the antennas are not aimed properly or the distance
is excessive for the antenna gain. These conditions will cause the
transmitters to pump out full volume, and if the antennas are your
lower gain variety that means spraying noise everywhere.
I would recommend leaving the nice t
Thanks Marlon!!
Bo
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi
Put 04-151 in the top left box. After that it's easy.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Co
Double standard does not mean if a monopoly is regulated a non-monopoly
needs to be regulated.
Its not about cable versus wired vs wireless!
Its about monopoly vs non-monopoly.
Just like any UNFAIR policies that help small businesses get government
contracts, even though the small business can
Well, I would have to completely disagree with that post.
I however may agree that high power can blast through anything. If you are
doing point to point and can have high gain antennas on both ends well thats
good. But doesn't work for PtMP deployments if you are being legal.
And as for Orth
Well thats not true. They do it every day. Life is not fair and life is
not equal.
Its all about votes and keeping the majority happy.
Even if the ultimate goal was to regul;ate WISPs as well, it could takes
years to finally have that happen in the courts, if enough resistence was
put forth
Charles,
I think that statement is about the most ridiculous (& hilarious)
thing I have ever heard you say. I am glad that its in writing! :-)
If all the WISPs in the country banded together we wouldn't be a
pimple on the ass of a Telco like the Bells. We are so far from even
being th
I'm in favor of that
How about just requiring tighter beam control on 6ghz stuff ?
I'm sure a 2 foot dish could be restricted down to a tighter beam...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K.
Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, Aug
Hi All,
For those that don't know, the 6 gig band is licensed ptp only. It's a
pretty cheap license and you can get a LOT of throughput for very long
distances.
For short (less than 50 miles :-) the 6' antenna requirement often kills the
deal because of size limits on what towers can handle
I am installing some new rb532's w/ shielded cat5, I have a couple of options,
using shielded connectors all the way to the rb532 connector itself, this would
connect the rb532 ground to the cat5 sheild and tower ground but I'm wondering
if I should only ground it at the antenna itself on the tower
Good find Dylan!
George
Dylan Oliver wrote:
Please see the thread "Foliage Penetration" (was Trango vs. Canopy or
some-such).
Here's what Matt Liotta said:
We have found 5.8Ghz OFDM gear better than 900Mhz when it comes to NLOS
links through foliage. We attribute this to a few things. First
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/
Second link on the "interesting stuff" page.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146
Please see the thread "Foliage Penetration" (was Trango vs. Canopy or some-such).
Here's what Matt Liotta said:
We have found 5.8Ghz OFDM gear better than 900Mhz when
it comes to NLOS links through foliage. We attribute this to a few
things. First, the noise floor at 900Mhz is higher than 5.8Ghz
Blair Davis wrote:
Anyone have any compairsons for 5.8GHz vs leaves compaired to 2.4GHz vs
leaves in Near or Non LoS conditions?
Interested in data about 802.11A systems, non-propriatry...
Thanks...
There isn't too much non proprietary 5 gig systems out there.
Star-OS atheros stuff, but
Anyone have any compairsons for 5.8GHz vs leaves compaired to 2.4GHz vs
leaves in Near or Non LoS conditions?
Interested in data about 802.11A systems, non-propriatry...
Thanks...
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West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648
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Camp C
Here's the issue
If you vote to regulate the bells, then you (as WISPs) must also be ready to
ultimately submit yourself (or at least your facilities based network
infrastructure) to regulation sometime in the near future - to requote
myself...the government won't support "double standards"
Good
Anyone care to comment on this? Should we also jump into this?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meetin
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi
Put 04-151 in the top left box. After that it's easy.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I r
I am working with a guy to wholesale my network, and I know Marlon
wholesales. Who else, I don't know. If left unregulated, how many of
the bells would wholesale? Sure there are some idiots out there who
don't know what they are doing, but they won't be around forever. I'd
just bet more "
Well, for the most part we look out for each other, don't step on each
others toes, don't lock people out of our networks, ect. We don't need
to be all regulated. We are doing a fine job as is. WISPs don't do the
same things the bells do. Or maybe I don't exactly know what regulation
means
Well, for the most part we look out for each other, don't step on each
others toes, don't lock people out of our networks, ect. We don't need
to be all regulated. We are doing a fine job as is. WISPs don't do the
same things the bells do. Or maybe I don't exactly know what regulation
means.
How are WISPs self-regulated?
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:21 AM
T
Well I know Im going to get a spankin for this but no, I did not. If
there is still time to reply I will. Could you send a link and I will
reply to the NPRM today.
Thanks
Bo
Charles Wu wrote:
Well..did you (or anyone for the matter) reply to the 3650 NPRM?
-Charles
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Charles, you and I BOTH know that this latest bit of regulatory activity had
NOTHING to do with WISP's at all, and that it is stuff flung down from the
courts.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasing at neo
I feel that we are kind of self regulated, where as the "big boys", when
left unregulated, go crazy.
Charles Wu wrote:
If anyone recalls the argument I had with Charles Wu...about how I would
NEVER surrender ownership of every part of my own network, from customer to
carrier hotel if there wa
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Well..did you (or anyone for the matter) reply to the 3650 NPRM?
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bo Hamilton
Sent: Thursd
This is why we need our own spectrum boy and girls I have seen a
40% increase in noise in my area. They all come from Linksys, D-link
and others on my downtown tower.
Bo
Barry at Mutual Data wrote:
Hello Charles,
(in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
CW> access points turned
Hello Charles,
(in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
CW> access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
CW> consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an "insidious method" of
CW> trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)
We have a village of about 400 homes
If anyone recalls the argument I had with Charles Wu...about how I would
NEVER surrender ownership of every part of my own network, from customer to
carrier hotel if there was any way of keeping it...
So here's the caveat...
If you refuse to be regulated, then you shouldn't complain when the FC
Anyone serve this area? Contact me offlist. Thanks
Tom Johnson
802DSL.COM
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