My iphone has a SIP client that can do this
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:12 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?
Is there a cell phone that can
Paragon Wireless makes a great dual-mode phone that works flawlessly
GSM/Wi-Fi VoIP (my boss has been using one for over a year). About $400
retail, and $250 bulk. We considered introducing the phone, but chose not
to. It's a more complex sale and marketing challenge, coupled with
additional cus
Didn't you see my post? That should work independent of what the carrier
does.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "George Rogato"
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:01 PM
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There are several - the calls completed over WiFi are not, however,
"Cellular" calls - they are VOIP calls
Aaron D. Osgood
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Sure it matters! I run a private company. We have enough laws, rules,
and regualtions to abide by as it is. It's enough to make you dizzy.
To open up your books to politicians and the likes with nothing better
to do than pick on capitalist is a disaster in the making. I know
plenty of farmers that
I have a Cutler Hammer cvl 50 at my datacenter.
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Markets/Electrical/Products/PowerQualityManagement/TransientVoltageSurgeSuppression/LightCommercialSurgeProtectionCVL/index.htm
No idea what's at home. Just two little breaker looking things in the
panel that have an L
"Audit" = excitment, fun, & adventure!
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Yes, for the portion of your business that relates to the Grant proceeds.
> Some disclosure of financial statements would likely be required do to
> proving your need that you wouldn't do the upgrade wit
Interesting article in regards to your topic.
http://www.voipplanet.com/trends/article.php/3820346
I'm out here in the sticks with limited cell coverage in a lot of areas
and this looks like a promising line of business.
George Rogato wrote:
> Is there a cell phone that can connect to someon
We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering
what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you
look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if
so with what
All our APs are shielded, flooded. No conduit.
All customers are shielded.
Everything is, of course, outdoor-rated UV-resistent.
Really cuts down on lightning damage, we've found.
One of our local competitors uses indoor cable - we do a lot of conversions
and find that the cable is in pieces af
Gel filled on towers is a mess. The gel runs down the cable and oozes
out all over the inside of the connector, etc. at the bottom of the tower.
Michael Baird wrote:
> We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
> different options for the towers and client installs. I w
This will be a much better option than cell phone and wi-fi, in my opinion.
The stated launch date is 7.01.09. It will include unlimited voice and data
for $70, including all taxes. No hot spots required. www.zer01mobile.com.
International dialing will be at greatly reduced prices (for a cell ph
Names have been changed to protect the ignorant.
I want to vent for a minute on a marketing practice with some wireless
equipment vendors that really just doesn't work for me, or maybe I just
don't get it.
I get emails all the time inviting me to be a "SuperAirPlusExtremeMax
Partner" from one
I'm becoming a fan of this stuff:
http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban
d_cat5e.pdf
Specifically the BBDGE cable.
It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though...
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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The white gel I see is way too thick to run down at all.
For APs I have always used the Mohawk cable with a really thick jacket
and aluminum shielding. I just ordered what 3db recommended per the
Moto400 recommendation. Looks the same, copper shielding, cheaper.
For customers I use outdoor stuf
It does exist. On t-mobile.
Att offers inferior service. Call them and ask for the same features as
t-mobile.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From: George Rogato
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:01:19
To: ; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wif
That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon.
On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote:
> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff:
>
> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban
> d_cat5e.pdf
>
> Specifically the BBDGE cable.
>
> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though...
>
> Da
Most of the HTC mobile line does this. I have a 8125 and a 8525 that work
very well..
Ryan
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM, George Rogato wrote:
> Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still
> make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service?
>
>
You are definitely not alone. Sometimes it makes sense to partner with a
vendor, whether it's preferred pricing, bulk financing, or even branding
opportunities that they offer. I get the same calls and emails from vendors
and am left wondering what kind of strategy they are applying in their sales
Wouldn't it be worse if water ran down the cable?
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
> Gel filled on towers is a mess. The gel runs down the cable and oozes
> out all over the inside of the connector, etc. at the bottom of the tower.
>
> Michael Baird wrote:
> > We are getting r
I've heard of people being afraid water would get inside the cable and that
is the purpose of the gel. Can't say I've ever seen water in the line, but
I know I have never looked!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have elimina
What I'm starting to do is have a sheet of all the materials we charge
for, one material per row. Each column is a customer.
customer1customer2
switch1 0
wrtr0 1
14'cat5 2 0
Like that /\
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-234
Ok so mine is really simple and doesn't have check off boxes, but here
it is.
We call it our site survey form. We use it to make notes from the
customer when they call and for the site survey and then the install. I
create the invoice from this as well.
Martha
Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
Properly installed, I don't think it'd ever be a concern. But I've seen
plenty of towers where two-way guys, or TV guys or will not care
much about your Cat5. Think of them hoisting a new folded dipole antenna
up, and it slams into a piece of your Cat5, putting a small nick in the
cable. Now yo
FYI...Ron
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From: Karen Reidy [mailto:kre...@comptel.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:36 PM
To: Karen Reidy
Subject: FCC Rural Broadband report
Dear Members: Below is the link to the FCC's Rural Broadband Strategy
Report that was released today.
http://hra
Anybody have service there? Please hit me offlist.
Thanks
Chris
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These pictures are from a small 40' Rohn tower that we are leasing space
on. Apparently one of the legs has some sort of stress fracture
deve
Looks like freeze damage to me.
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From: "Randy Cosby"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: [WISPA] tower fix possible?
> http://info
Randy
That's water freezing inside the leg and splitting the leg.
I bet the drain holes in the bottom are plugged and not letting water drain
I would avoid this tower. I surely wouldn't climb it.
And I will call you tomorrow reference your e-mail
Bob
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Definitely from freezing as it comes from the inside out.
If it were mine, I would figure out a way to get it down with the gear
on it and put up a new one.
At 40' there are lots of sign and rigging companies with a crane that
could pick it up off the base and lower it so you can get the gear off
Ya'll never did any plumbing, huh :)
Water inside froze and split it open.
The only way I'd stand 3 rungs up on that tower, is if I had a crane holding
me up :)
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From: "Randy Cosby"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:30 AM
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Wonder if we could lift it, pull that section off (it's near the bottom)
and put a new section in. Hm... Need to go onsite.
Randy
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
> Ya'll never did any plumbing, huh :)
>
> Water inside froze and split it open.
>
> The only way I'd stand 3 rungs up on that towe
We've seen something like this. Engineer recommended taking the same
size pipe. Have it cut in half to form a half-moon. Then use U-clamps
and clamp around the stress crack. Being only 40' feet, probably don't
have much to worry about.
-Cameron
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Shouldn't be a problem if you have a crane and it is only 40'. If it
was my tower I would just split a piece of pipe, weld it around it to
reinforce it and then use my jin pole to bring it down and replace that
section.
Better check the bottom to make sure it isn't rusted out from the water
Don't forget, on a snowy mountain top the change in temp from day to
night can cause condensation inside the jacket that pools at the low
spot over time.
>
>> I've heard of people being afraid water would get inside the cable and that
>> is the purpose of the gel. Can't say I've ever seen wa
Ok, so, two weeks ago, after having stood for 4.5 years, through 2, and I
mean TWO "century" wind storms, my generator tower failed on a very normal
normal windy spring day.
We took it the rest of the way down, cut it apart, looking for the cause of
failure.
And found none. No rust, no break
That is caused by condensation or rain coming in the top of the leg.
Basically there is no drain at the bottom of the leg and the water is
repeatedly freezing at the snow line.
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If you don't have a drain out the bottom it will keep doing it.
Randy Cosby wrote:
> Wonder if we could lift it, pull that section off (it's near the bottom)
> and put a new section in. Hm... Need to go onsite.
>
>
I took a little time to scan the report, and have a couple of
observations...
1. The FCC is expending great efforts at marginally effective ideas.
2. A lot of attention was paid to middle mile and rural deployments, but
missed the largest single issue, at least as it applies out west - that
p
Yeppers, it is truly an indication of the vendors lack of respect for
our intelligence that makes a vendor assume we are clueless enough to
buy their un priced pitch.
John Bates wrote:
> You are definitely not alone. Sometimes it makes sense to partner with a
> vendor, whether it's preferred
Was the generator shaft seized? Variable pitch blades locked at the
shallowest position?
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
> Ok, so, two weeks ago, after having
LOL.
I can imagine :)
I have actually seen it used in several NOCs at large data centers and
so forth.
I run it in my NOC, along with various other visualization tools
(kismet/wireshark etc).
Rogelio wrote:
> I see Etherape running more often in coffee shops than I do in NOCs. :)
>
>
>
LOL.
I can imagine :)
I have actually seen it used in several NOCs at large data centers and
so forth.
I run it in my NOC, along with various other visualization tools
(kismet/wireshark etc).
Rogelio wrote:
> I see Etherape running more often in coffee shops than I do in NOCs. :)
>
>
>
RickG wrote:
> Charles,
>
> I'll check my archives for the spreadsheet (I think Charles Wu has it
> online someplace)
Thanks. I appreciate that.
but I believe the financing is only a small portion
> of the issue.
Indeed. Gear is only a small part of the network. I was thinking 100k
for cap
HHFFF...
You mean this magic secret society decoder ring is worthless?
I dunno if I've been wiser or dumber, but anyone who requires me to give
them every detail about me before they'll tell me about their product has
NEVER had the chance to sell it to me.
I get some of the same stuff you
No, nothing like that. The generator had purely electrical failure, and
was stuck in the "brake" mode, where the shaft only spins at perhaps 15 rpm,
no matter the wind.
I'd like to think I'm thorough, and yet I have found no reason for the tower
failure.We're putting it back up about 60%
T-mobile cell phones work over wifi. 1 number.
I use it all the time.
George Rogato wrote:
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> If you have Asterisk you just opened up nearly any Wifi phone to your
>> system. SIP is so universal...
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, I have not been keeping up with cell phones. My own is 5
Ah. Was the generator shaft spinning freely during the last two
windstorms? A stalled (or nearly stalled ~ 15 RPM) rotor will present a
much higher wind load to the tower than a freewheeling one will...
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-
Blackberry Curve and Pearl on t-mobile. Works like a champ. Use it all
the time, along with heavy torrenting and other use.
George Rogato wrote:
> Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still
> make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service?
>
> T
http://www.villagetelco.org/
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> I bought my E71 unlocked and it is an awesome phone. It even went
> through a complete washer/dryer cycle with my laundry and came out just
> fine (after it dried out for a few hours).
>
> I have mine setup with my office Asterisk serv
Nokia SIP is built-in in most of their phones and easy to configure as an
Asterisk SIP extension...any "smartphone" version I've had for several
years, at least. (Granted...the e61 and e61i demanded stronger signal
strength requirements for Wi-Fi but newer versions are quite "hot").
. . . J o n a
But the generator is and always has been stalled during wind storms.
Nothing's changed, in that regard.
This is why we're mystified.
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From: "Patrick Shoemaker"
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:55 PM
Subjec
Quick note on Gel fil
I had a link fed by outdoor direct burial Ethernet, and the cable came 8
feet down from the radio, went horizontally 50 feet, dropped 5 feet to
inside penhouse roof, went horizontally100ft with several turns, then
dropped 8 feet to wall cabnet. A mistake was made durin
absolutely not. A drip loop is used to prevent water runing down the
outside of the cable from running upward into your wall penetration. Because
water is outside of cable, it can drain down when it reaches the bottom edge
of drip loop. When water is inside cable, it does not have the same opti
Michael,
I see my last post was redundant to some comments others already made. But
to answer your question...
We use Superior Essex for critical infrastrucure. We use Shireen cable
(allrfcables.com) for all other.
Its depended whether you need a .45" dia cable or .18" cable, based on the
hole
Actually I think you had some gel leak out of the cable and not water. Seen it
numerous times especially after a warm summer when the gel gets liquefied one
place have 180ft vertical 5 ft horizontal and about 15ft rolled up on a 1.5ft
diameter and bottom feeding a cabinet. At the bottom under th
Yuck. I have never seen this with the Mohawk Gel filled cable we use.
David
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISP
My experience living in the rainy pacific northwest is, regular old blue
or grey cat 5 cable has lasted all the 10 years I've been doing this. I
use it on all my houses and buildings.
White cat 5 does not work outdoors and deteriorates quickly. Should be
no surprise.
Up a tower I use an a cabl
Get a proff. welder out there. He should be able to fix it.
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These pictures are from a small 40' Rohn tower that we a
You made a good point that regular CAT5 actually can last quite a while, if
someone wanted to use it.
And the cheapest if they wanted to use PVC, at $60 a spool/box.
But a couple things to note...
Shireen outdoor shielded cable is less expensive (or equivellent) in price
to regular plenum CAT5.
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