You'd need to ask Moto for the measurement.
It's not provided in the Canopy specs. Theoretically it could be measured
by anyone independently with an appropriate test setup. It's
measured by Moto with continuous signal (not frame bursts as in normal Canopy
operation) by putting the unit i
To bad there won't be any spectrum to run it on.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!
Not more Hypemax!
Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
Because in 6 months, you will be able to buy a Wimax Cpe for 200 bucks.
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Jeff
On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Hope that affects the price of everything else, at this point who would
by an 802.11a cpe for $250 when you can buy a
I was a HUGE Trango "basher" on another list. I had the water
problems with the 5830 units. I can say that after making me mad as
hell in the past, they do seem to have made improvements. They
repaired some of my old (out of warranty) units at no charge and even
sent me a rebate for one that the
Because in 6 months, you will be able to buy a Wimax Cpe for 200 bucks.
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Jeff
On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Hope that affects the price of everything else, at this point who
would
by an 802.11a cpe for $250 when you can buy a trango for $150?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
All,Before everyone jumps for joy, Wimax CPE and base stations will be priced as low as 2250 / Sector for a fully integrated version ( all odu ) and CPE are expected to drop immediately to as low as 220-250.Then again, in the US markets that wont matter until at the earliest, may or june.-JeffOn Ja
Anyone know where I can get a 5.8Ghz (Tri-Band is better) H-POL Omni? I have looked but can't find any. Do they make such an animal?
Thanks,
Bo Hamilton
NCOWireless.com
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How much C/I does it exactly take to achieve
throughput at sensitivity?
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Anyone know where I can get a 5.8Ghz (Tri-Band is better) H-POL Omni? I have looked but can't find any. Do they make such an animal?
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>I think its 3db for 1X mode at any signal strength and 10db for 2X mode>and
signal has to be -65 to achieve 2X mode.
The "at any signal strength" phrase has never
been true (I color changed it to make it stand out in your quote). It's
C/I is only low when signals are much higher than sens
11a is not that bad (every tool has a place). I could use the cpe
in my network and get a trango AP
when one of the sites has more then a handful of people on it. I am
assuming the AP's will be more thne the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] units price too. If a AP is $200~300 then its easy to pick. $500
or m
http://www.telecommagazine.com/techzones/services/article.asp?HH_ID=AR_1619
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Bob,
On the surfice it appears fickle, but not truthfully.
Everybody wants to support distribution and their friends in distribution,
in theory.
But Trango's goal as a manufacturer is strictly to find ways to sell more
radios. Loyalty end there for any manufacturer from what I;ve seen. The
bu
This document is for adding external connectors to a Trango 900AP. However,
the same process applies to the 5830AP that use the same connectors.
The polarity of the internal connectors on the Trango 900 radios are as
follows. The horrizontal is the top connector and the vertical is the bottom
2x is higher modulation, up to 14 mbps data. Regular SM's can achieve 14
mbps Bursts. There's and upgrade to allow sustained 14 Mbps. Dunno the
price..
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Silly question but what is the difference between 1x and 2x? Also how much
does Canopy charge for the software upgrades to up the performance of the
subscriber units?
Thanks,
Chadd
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As stated a million time. Use Horizontal polarity
antennas, Canopy doesn't. As long as mobile is not your goal, Trango is
great platform.
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Broadband
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JohnnyO
To: WISPA General Lis
The purpose of using Trango is to NOT be 802.11a.
Trango solves all the 802.11a problems, why would you take the problems back
on again, after Trango solved them?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EM
Funny, I got Sm's running 2x @ -79
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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No they do not, but its easy to self-modify them so that they can, if you
don't mind voiding warrantee.
I have a step by step document if interested..
The only problem I had was remembering whether it was the V or H setting,
that I redirected to the external antenna.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wi
Chadd,
Actually a very good post. And points out the other side. No body is
perfect. There have been many things that have frustrated me with the gear
over the years. Will the reliabilty of using the gear go up? Only time will
tell that one. But patience and loyalty to a vendor for me, I thin
Should make us all wonder why we're paying $200.00 for a cheap/crappy 802.11b CPE from the likes of Tranzeo or other vendors.
I think as a company we will have to seriously take a look at this platform. My only real question is - How will it perform where Canopy is deployed in the same ar
Mark,
Don't forget an arguement to support your
position, "less components to fail.".
However, not creating a clear Dmarcation point,
means free support labor. Not gicing end users a device to tinker with, means
they try and tinker with yours, or bother you aimlessly for support.
Its
Hi all,
With all the talk of various pros and cons of proprietary and non- networking
solutions, I thought I'd mention that the CUWiN project has just released (as of
yesterday) version 0.6.0 of our software. Yes, it's open source; yes, it's free
(and always will be); and yes, it's mesh. Thi
I think its 3db for 1X mode at any signal strength and 10db for 2X mode
and signal has to be -65 to achieve 2X mode.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Also that is 3db at -65dbm signal
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> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Interested in your experience..
>
> If your concerned abou
Does the 3db SNR still apply when using 2X mode? I was under the impression
that 2X requires 10db
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Would it be possible to have standard 802.11a support from this client?
What about 5/10mhz channels?
That would make this a "super killer product" even more then it sounds
now. Personally I would pay a
small fee per unit to have 11a support, 5/10mhz channels are becoming
standard.
Jeromie
Bri
If your concerned about noise consider Motorola, it has excellent noise
rejection, it only needs somewhere around 3db above the noise for your
throughput.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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I don't think Trangos new lower price was to wipe out StarOs. IF an intent
was there to wipe someone out, I'd say more likely, it would be Canopy. But
I don't even think that intent was the purpose.. Giving WISPs better prices
helps them grow their businesses, and compete with the commodity huge
We have a lot of fence rows in this area so 900 is going to be a necessary
evil like it or not. I tried using 5.7 Trango for a few installs early on
and just couldn't get any range out of it in this area, and the noise floor
is fairly high in 5.x around here.
It seems like more and more people ar
Is foliage a problem in your area? Sounds like your using a lot of 900
gear. If foliage is not a problem you might want to look at 2.4 or
possibly 5.7 gear.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Hello Travis,
Well they do if the cover comes off..
:-)
Barry
Thursday, January 19, 2006, 10:01:18 AM, you wrote:
TJ> No, they do not. I've asked for that exact thing since 2001 and original
TJ> 5800 AP's. I've heard there may be something coming however... ;)
TJ> Travis
TJ> Microserv
TJ
I second, third this motion and have contacted Trango regarding
this. I have some towers where six AP's is fine, but I have a lot more
smaller locations where it is hard to justify 6 of them for a site. I
certainly hope this changes so we can deploy these in smaller areas.
-Original
If they were able to ship me some 120deg ap's in the next 30 days, I'd
drop my planned Netstream 5.8GHz deployment and switch to Trango if
anyone is listening :-)
Travis Johnson wrote:
Yup. Those were my exact words 4 years ago directly to Trango.
Travis
Microserv
Blair Davis wrote:
Travis Johnson wrote:
Not sure what you mean. I have a 6ft dish, many 4ft dishes and over
ten 3ft dishes all hooked to Trango radios using 18" pigtails. No
problems.
Well what can I say? You must just be smarter than our technicians who
have found it really difficult to mount the radio t
Yup. Those were my exact words 4 years ago directly to Trango.
Travis
Microserv
Blair Davis wrote:
That is too bad
Since my biggest tower has less than 30 users, putting 6 $1000 ap's on
one tower just doesn't make sense
On the other hand, putting 3 AP's with 120deg antennas on a to
Sorry if I missed it somewhere- does this also include the 900Mhz
products?
chris
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I'm n
That is too bad
Since my biggest tower has less than 30 users, putting 6 $1000 ap's on
one tower just doesn't make sense
On the other hand, putting 3 AP's with 120deg antennas on a tower is
something I can justify. (just in case some one is listening)
Travis Johnson wrote:
No, th
Not sure what you mean. I have a 6ft dish, many 4ft dishes and over ten
3ft dishes all hooked to Trango radios using 18" pigtails. No problems.
Travis
Microserv
Matt Liotta wrote:
18" pigtails don't cut with large dishes. Further, the loss on crap
coax at 5.8Ghz is quite high even with sh
No, they do not. I've asked for that exact thing since 2001 and original
5800 AP's. I've heard there may be something coming however... ;)
Travis
Microserv
Blair Davis wrote:
Anyone know if the Trango 5.8GHz ap's have an external antenna
connection? out here, 60deg sectors on an ap are a bit
Travis,
I fully agree.
The 2.4Ghz product is one that we have not used yet, but one we will need to
start using soon, based on the fact that we used all the 5.8 channels
available at many cell sites. 5.3G is good for expanding cells if for the
close in neighborhoods, but it just doesn't have
Anyone know if the Trango 5.8GHz ap's have an external antenna
connection? out here, 60deg sectors on an ap are a bit small
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We have had good luck with SCS, Ltd., in
O’Fallon, MO. Talk to Steve Pauk, he has given us very good service
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006
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To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Supplier
18" pigtails don't cut with large dishes. Further, the loss on crap coax
at 5.8Ghz is quite high even with short lengths. From a shear cost
perspective there is little reason to use crap coax for short pigtails.
Without cost being a major factor all the benefits of using quality coax
start pili
Where do you guys get your fiber? Looking for single mode or multi-mode, indoor, breakout, 12 strands.
Thanks.
Scott Reed
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NewWays
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