Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Amen, nobody ever said you could build it and rest on your laurels. No small business is safe from changes that come with time. Evolve or die. I am not going to sit around complaining the sky is falling. > So the cost to meet the future needs of our subscribers is real, it's > not as hard to swal

Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will find more than a hundred WISPs, many of them very small operations from 100-1000 subscribers that are 100% canopy. And generally speaking they are kicking butt and taking names in their markets. I disagree that Canopy is not marketed to the sm

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: > >>What I have done, you can do too. Just takes lots of time and work

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Information > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: > >>Check out Garrison Utah or Burbank Nevada. Doesn't get much more >>rural than that. Of course I have spent the most part of the last >>20 years slowly building a fiber and microwave network to get to &g

Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Where do you rate Ubiquity Nanostations or the Bullet? - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays? I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value" decision. If the

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
can be when oversubscribed, it just will not work. So then what? Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: I deliver 100 mbps wholesale to many rural areas for $3-4K/month type of figure. That includes transport. And stastically, you can oversub it, even with streaming content. You are n

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: > >>I deliver 100 mbps wholesale to many rural areas for $3-4K/month >>type of figu

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
are building out our network. - Original Message - From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3

Re: [WISPA] Updated White Spaces mapping tool

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I had a physics professor that would allow solutions to problems to be submitted in any unit measure. Since he had TAs and grad students doing the grading it was no skin of his nose. Lots of furlongs per fortnight velocity measurements. Units of photon energy to describe frequency. But when

Re: [WISPA] Updated White Spaces mapping tool

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
All the stations were given an extra set of channels to fire up and operate the DTV transmitters. Mostly on UHF. This happened years ago and in this are we have been receiving a digital TV signal for about 8 years. Once the VHF analog transmitters are switched off, the broadcasters I know say

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, then buy a Canopy 430. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > This is why we need gear capable of higher throughputs. Too many >

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I think the canopy 450 will do something like 30 down and 10 up. So that could give you 20 simultaneously which statistically could work if you had 50-100 on an AP. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM Subje

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
h as 3-3.5Mbit as a matter over a 5Min average. > > / Eje > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:52 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streami

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
OK, but if you look at Dennis's data, it appears to me that the average was in the hundreds of K. But maybe I didn't read it correctly. - Original Message - From: "Michael Baird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ne

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Did I interpret your data correctly to mean that if you had a sustained 256Kbps it would work? - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > In

Re: [WISPA] FW: one more

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Dang, and here I was anticipating a beach scene, with some beautiful "things" to look at... - Original Message - From: "Scott Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] FW: one more > If you're stuck in a winter lan

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
One source: http://tnrbatteries.com/genesis.html - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont > http://www.enersysrese

Re: [WISPA] one more

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Message - From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] one more Not our building, but ours looked just like it. This is after a week of no possible way to access the site. And of course no sunlight for a week of

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
> watt system you suggest a 120W solar panel. Also 30 days or 360AH of > usable capacity at 12V? > > Thanks for the clarification, and the pics that make your experience > clear! > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: &

Re: [WISPA] one more

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
, November 20, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] one more This is how you access it... that's why we finally had to buy one. :) We have six tower sites that can look just like your picture (all over 8,000ft elevation). Travis Microserv Chuck McCown wrote: Not our building, but

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
put on cloudy > days, maybe 75% of sunny day capacity. Have you any experience with this? > > Regards, > Scott > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:42 PM > To: WISP

[WISPA] chipping ice

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
<> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.

[WISPA] one more

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Not our building, but ours looked just like it. This is after a week of no possible way to access the site. And of course no sunlight for a week of storm. Then with panels being coated like this, no sunlight until you get up there to chop off the ice or do "other" things that are more effective

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
feelin' da luv today (As some might suspect, I do have a passion for mountain-top solar and wind power, having had to risk human life on more than one occasion to keep things alive or restore service. $2000 helicopter rides after the storm blows through is also a good reason to get it right.

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
ROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont > Good point :) It's not too severe down here in So Utah. > > Randy > > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> They must not be subject to ice stor

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
site that had a supplementary > wind-generation system. Seemed to work well for them to have wind power > when the weather is bad, solar when it is good. Pretty windy place as > well. > > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> Here is a note I posted several days ago on the Motorola list

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
ution systems >>>>> >>>>> Jack Unger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's good. Do you have a url or two? >>>>>> >>>>>> Blair Davis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [isp-wireless] unlicensed under 2ghz

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Perhaps John wants a job working part time for WISPA? - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [isp-wireless] unlicensed under 2g

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
total battery size so we never discharge them below 60% Sounds like you are in a much more inaccessible environment than we are! And in that kind of location, I'd likely be looking for the same thing. But, for us, inaccessibility won't last more than a week or so... Chuck McCown

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We buy batts that are rated to give you the energy down to -20F. Survive being at-20F while discharged to a stone cold state. And recover when the next available bit of sunlight hits the panel (perhaps days later). And last 2000 cycles. For that you pay 30 cents per watt hour. And can sleep at

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Here is a note I posted several days ago on the Motorola list about solar powering. From: Chuck McCown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:17 AM To: Dave Crim Subject: Re: solar Continuing on a bit, lets say you have 5 lousy days and one good sunny day followed by 5

Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I would use a 100 watt panel minimum. And a one month battery. 5watts * 24hours * 30 days = 3600 watt hour battery If you are running a 24 volt system then you need 3600/24=150 aH battery. If you are running a 12 volt system, you need a 300 aH battery. You will pay about 30 cents per watt hour f

Re: [WISPA] TVBD height requirement

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
You could have a lower gain omni as just a sense antenna. - Original Message - From: "John Valenti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TVBD height requirement > Mike, > > Where are you reading this on page 43? >

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. Still, gaining access to most of the > non-1st adjacent channels white space is still a big "win" for the WISP > industry. > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> Hopefully forward error correction and directional antennas will make it >> possible. >> >> - Original

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
etween. > Who is going to interfere with who the most? Looks like the DTV signals > will interfere with our AP receivers AND our CPE transmitters will > interfere with nearby television receivers. Of course, I could be > wrong What's your take on it? > > Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Perhaps once TVWS gets used and it proves a success, then they will open up adjacent channels. Once they do that there will be holes everywhere. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
eason it was! > > So Baseball was on Channel X so it got the good translator that season, > then when football started on channel Y it would get the good translator. > > I love small towns! > > ryan > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> Perhaps the question was a little more gener

Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, "translated" to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ran

Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Lower Power TV and Translators (they are pretty much the same license) are Exempt. However most of them are conveying the signal of a larger network station. The larger network station will want the translator chain to be digital if they can. Many of the translators in Utah have a digital unit ru

Re: [WISPA] White Spaces Mapping Tool

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
A channel 2 yagi is not something you can throw in the back of your installer vehicle. I have installed 4 X 6 element channel 2 yagi arrays before. (14 dBi) You couldn't fit them in this office I am sitting in right now. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-18 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Wonder why it attached the reply... - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] T

Re: [WISPA] White Spaces Device Demand

2008-11-18 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I think that if you want to use WISPA to mine market data, then the results should be made public for all to share. You are not the only vendor member of WISPA that has TVWS product in the pipeline you know. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Suitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA Genera

Re: [WISPA] DTV transition

2008-11-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Save your money, Wikipedia says that Wi-Fi spray is simply re-packaged "Astro-Glide" personal lubricant". American Towers is the largest consumer. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] D

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Motorola is likely to be first out of the chute. But none of them were putting the final touches on anything until the rules were published. Now they have to finish their products, do type approvals, do beta tests, then perhaps we will see some new tools to use. I'll bet it will be 6 months o

Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply?

2008-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
; Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:47 PM >

Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply?

2008-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I would buy one today if I could. - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need a power supply? > http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/ > > > --

[WISPA] smith charts

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
This summer I had a couple of junior year EE interns in the shop to do some dirtywork. They got very very familiar with antenna range measurements by the end of the summer. But I had to laugh when I would ask them to measure the return loss on a new design. They would look confused and then s

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
zens of skeptical ham operators. Theory does not matter, > those issues are conquered. Seeing is believing. > > -RickG > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> One huge reason, powerlines are not constant impedance to R

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
read my post! > > BPL works - with acceptable interference - I saw it with my own eyes > along with dozens of skeptical ham operators. Theory does not matter, > those issues are conquered. Seeing is believing. > > -RickG > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMA

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
; figure out the hold up is here in the states. > > -RickG > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> BPL on HV was and is a stupid idea. HV infrastructure was not built with >> the idea of being a transmission line

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
BPL on HV was and is a stupid idea. HV infrastructure was not built with the idea of being a transmission line for RF. To get any kind if speed you have to use lots of power, even then it is very very short range. You might as well set up a whole bunch of dragonwaves in a drop and insert syst

Re: [WISPA] County

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
t, dollars, it is all consideration. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] County Yes, but he is on their tower for free in exchange for transporting traffic. Travis Chuck McCown

Re: [WISPA] County

2008-11-14 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We pay rent to one county to be in their building and on their tower. The sheriff's office might be on some paperwork somewhere. Not unheard of. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I would put up an AP. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > Wireless has it's obvious advantages but if you go the BPL route you > can use the Motorola product. Just be

Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I would weld if the tank owner allows. - Original Message - From: "St. Louis Broadband" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question... > Are the magnets the best (most cost effective)

Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And you will need to become familiar with the term "overturning momemt". (arm * distance = moment) - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower quest

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And their distributors are? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet > Nope they have not shipped the first batch out yet expected to ship next > week to their distributors. >

Re: [WISPA] 1.9ghz?

2008-11-07 Thread Chuck McCown
t of using a corded phone. I prefer corded handset. > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:29:12PM -0700, Chuck McCown wrote: >> Yep, pretty cool huh? >> We recommend only DECT 6.0 and that is the only thing we stock in our >> store. >> - Original Message - &

Re: [WISPA] 1.9ghz?

2008-11-06 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, pretty cool huh? We recommend only DECT 6.0 and that is the only thing we stock in our store. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] 1.9ghz? > Hi, > >

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-06 Thread Chuck McCown
ter to new innovation, that allows a > better more efficient use comapred to what was previously there. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[E

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-06 Thread Chuck McCown
Are you wanting to have a dissertation of FCC part 36 separations and settlements and the uniform system of accounts? Or perhaps NECA Tariff 5? My answer was a philosophical answer. The making of the sausage is ugly. But at the end of the day, all accounts are settled. - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The licensed stuff is not frequency hopping or spread spectrum. It is generally big time QAM with tons of margin. Like 40 dB+ of margin. Part 90 and Part 101 radios have been around for a very long time, way back before microprocessors. So spectral efficiency is not the name of the game ther

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
16dB by 120* won't have much of a vertical pattern will it? I'd guess > less > than 10*. > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, November 05,

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I think we keep it alive for $5/month. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] cancelled customer email > OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. > I've go

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
board... so that isn't much of a reason either. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: So I guess satellite earth station minimum size requirements would really make a barrier to entry. I think we had to have a 21 foot dish minimum for an inmarsat uplink... By the same logic should

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... I believe all of Trango's licensed equipment (6ghz, 11ghz, 18ghz, 23ghz) is the same price. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Moreover, 6 GHz hardware is my most expensive stuff. I can get 1

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: > >>Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a >>bit higher than that used to surf porn? > > If you've ever manned the phones

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: > >>Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a >>bit higher than that used to surf porn? > > If you've ever

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
eason enough. I'll > pay > more for a better product and more piece of mind. > > Best, > > > Brad > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
So I guess satellite earth station minimum size requirements would really make a barrier to entry. I think we had to have a 21 foot dish minimum for an inmarsat uplink... By the same logic should I be pissed at that requirement? If you interfere with my 6 GHz system, E-911 links die, critical air

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Speaking of that, who do you use for your FCC licensing/coordination on > these links, or do you do it in-house? > > Randy > > > Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: >> There is a ton of licensed 6 GHz systems already deployed. They make you >> use a larger antenna so the beamwidt

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
There is a ton of licensed 6 GHz systems already deployed. They make you use a larger antenna so the beamwidth is narrower. I allows more frequency reuse due to lower sidelobes and less footprint. We are in a rural area and sometimes they have a hard time finding us a pair of 50 MHz channels

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown
I would suggest a noise generator. Here is an article on a do it yourself unit. http://www.ham-radio.com/sbms/sd/nfsource.htm Using a noise generator that is pretty flat and a spectrum analyzer is one of the easiest ways to tune filters if you don't have a sweep generator. - Original Messag

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown
No but they will be about 20 feet high for an H pol 600 MHz slotted waveguide 16 dBi 120 degree sector. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage >I c

Re: [WISPA] My mistake- WE WON!!!!!

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ssage, >> misinterpretting that we wanted low power in unlicensed. >> The FCC left the door open for further comment on whether higher power >> licensed should be allowed in "rural areas". >> >> At this point, I think it will end up being to WISP's best in

Re: [WISPA] Looks like we didn't win

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
7;m getting all worked up, before I have > all > the facts posted to the public tommorrow. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [WISPA] Looks like we didn't win

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
er 04, 2008 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looks like we didn't win > Useful power levels in the whitespaces. > > B UT, we've not seen the actual rules from the FCC yet. It's entirely > possible that the rules will be better than what's being reported so far. >

Re: [WISPA] Looks like we didn't win

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
What exactly didn't we win? - Original Message - From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Looks like we didn't win > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/110408-fcc-whilte-spaces.html > > :( > > >

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown
w much bandwidth you want to set aside for >> ARQ. > > Thats pretty cool. is that a new feature as of a specif fiormware, or has > it been there all along? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Origina

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Nothing, if you own the fiber. - Original Message - From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers >> We generally use Dragonwave or fiber to the AP. So no latency to speak >> of >> there.

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown
We generally use Dragonwave or fiber to the AP. So no latency to speak of there. >From our Canopy sub to our NOC I would say 7 is what most get. - Original Message - From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown
With Canopy, you can decide how much bandwidth you want to set aside for ARQ. It has its own slice of the overhead and you can limit it to 2 kbps if you want. Most pick 20 kbps. But it really isn't a factor. With 120 on an AP at 5.8 with most of them subscribing to 512 Kbps 10.2 Mbps burst t

Re: [WISPA] How NOT to take down your "new" used tower!

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Be nice to email the guy to tell him the dishes could be sold on ebay for more than the tower is worth. What a shame. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] How NOT to take dow

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
side? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, November 02,

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Naw, we'll just take it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not much canopy bashing there... - Original Message - From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers > On

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ntage of up/down. >> >> And how do you guarantee 7ms latency? What happens if a customer gets >> 8ms? And how do they test that measurement? And what happens when a >> customer completely clobbers an AP and 160 customers are getting 20ms >> latency? Or you have interferen

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
_ > Jerry Richardson > airCloud Communications > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:29 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers > >

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
snmp is a wonderful thing... - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers > Our front end tech support only needs the phone n

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
how do they test that measurement? And what happens when a > customer completely clobbers an AP and 160 customers are getting 20ms > latency? Or you have interference from a new provider and all those > people get 100ms latency? > > Travis > Microserv > > > Chuck McCown -

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
PE is less than $175 complete (including PoE, antenna). Canopy seems to work well for many people... but I've never been one to follow the "norm". And I get to put $50 in my pocket on every install, and $1,000 for every AP we put up. ;) Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
s you do the right thing now. - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers > Well that is a testimony to your quality of se

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ve no sales people, no real advertising campaign, and more installs > than we can keep up with each month. > > Travis > Microserv > > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> You must not have competitors. I have both Qwest and Comcast giving away >> multi megabit starting at $15.95

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
You must not have competitors. I have both Qwest and Comcast giving away multi megabit starting at $15.95 - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers I guess that's my

Re: [WISPA] canopy speed

2008-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. DOCSIS and FIOS are approaching those speeds but they ain't playing in our sandbox... yet. If you have 30 Mbps burst download speeds, the bottleneck will not be in our system, it will be at the content provider end or in transiting the internet. - Original Message - From: "Ch

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
tually very impressed with their speed and quality of RF. But I'm just sharing what we've learned with Bandwidth management, since we've been doing it since 2001. Maybe the Canopy 400series, can deliver the higher throughputs ? I heard Motorolla was planning on making a 5.8G model o

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
y you are delivering 10.2Mbps to more than two customers at the same > time off a single AP. ;) > > Travis > Microserv > > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> Our Canopy customers are used to getting 10.2 Mbps download speed. If >> the start a huge file transfer they get wide op

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:09 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers > > Our Canopy customers are used to gettin

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
customers How does Canopy fix a customer satisfaction problem? If they are used to getting 5Mbps download speed and you have to cap them at 1Mbps, it doesn't really matter what platform you are using. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Canopy... - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Canopy... - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] heavy usage customers > Does anyone else here have customer/s that consume so much bandwidth that > you have to throttle them

Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Chuck McCown
So," */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training " at the end of your note is NOT advertising? I am confused. Daniel was responding to a specific question. I thought it was apropos. - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<    1   2   3   4   5   6   >