I believe you John that they are scared of wireless and are shunning
wireless.
But I can't help but think that every hospital I go in has lots of wireless.
I was up in Oregon Health Sciences and they must have had a cisco ap
every 30' of cieling space.
John Scrivner wrote:
As I have stated
e hill in even suggesting
that this an issue that has to be delt with. The industry has matured in
a very positive way over the past few years.
George
This is NOT an official wispa stance or position, just my own.
Patrick Leary wrote:
Here are few raw comments that might fray some nerves:
1. The
d not wireless. Just open it up to more than the telco.
I would like to see my town do fiber.
George
Peter R. wrote:
Funding fiber to the farm
By Joan Engebretson
Feb 5, 2007 12:00 PM
Like finding well-situated season tickets to your favorite sports team,
it can be daunting to get a telecom gra
router.
I know your pain.
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Marty, why is it that you want to get involved with what other people use?
George
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I get a kick out of these discussions. First, if the people that think
we're all illegal operators think that the 5 or 10 very vocal ones on a
couple of emails lists repre
do we say, clean up your act?
Are we saying using kit built systems?, uncertified gear?, or big
honking omni's with big honking amps to make they get though some nlos
stuff?
Not looking to argue, just to get your opinion clear.
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I'm on record of amps and high powered is not good, most of the time.
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his company, would you go and support Dennis
and do you think the outcome could be different?
Long question.
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Of course I am a paid member- I wouldn't have a right to be in the middle of
this conversation without it!
Marty
And regardless of a difference of opinions or not, your membership is
greatly appreciated. And your opinion is important.
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think it would be money well spent.
Maybe this is something we can work on... Any volunteers?
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Wonder what Qwests DSL limit is?
fred wrote:
George Rogato wrote:
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>
>> He's back down, close to a normal user now and loves his
>> netflix. It's a FAR more cost effective mechanism for getting
>> his movies to
s and be very happy.
George
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
PacWireless makes a 19db and 24db flat panel 5.8ghz antenna. Or there
are the Rootenna's, depending on what you are using for radios. I have
used all four types and they all work as advertised.
Travis
Microserv
Mark Nash w
What bandpass filter is he using, and how much do they cost?
Thanks
George
Scott Reed wrote:
The WISP next door to me is running 900MHz and 2.4GHz from the same
RB532 at a couple of sites. He is doing well with both. The only thing
he has found is a bandpass filter is critical.
He makes 2
Alvarion
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Hi All,
I have a water tower that's kicking my tail. I've been through a slug
of sb and inscape and compex ap's. Everything works for a little while
then either outright dies or starts flaking out.
Power seems to be fine, and there are NO
o the FBI and Homeland Security about CALEA.
If anyone has any questions they want answered, nows the time to put
them in print.
George
wispa wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but
I don't have time to gi
But the offer still stands.
Any reasonable question regarding the implementation of CALEA compliance
I will be glad to ask.
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llow me to gain back quite a bit of room. But whatever I
put in has to work with my existing customers at that site.
thoughts?
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Well ask a question and we'll see.
Guess if I'm supposed to be the messenger, it's me.
If someone wants me to go and ask ridiculous politically radical
questions, then forget about it. They can just dial the number and ask
themselves.
But a non political real question is no p
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en me and I think even more he will give me in the future.
I realize not everyone has this business plan, or can even afford the
bandwidth, so I'm not implying anyone is doing it wrong, just that we
can handle these types of subs and make a profit from it if we engineer
our network to acc
rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
I try to keep a low profile around here, you listen twice and speak
once. Wispa membership has been a good experience for me. However,
Patrick has once again, been the HIGH & MiGHTY, and jumped all over my
one phrase. I did not mean to imply anything illegal about my i
Oh, let me add one thing though, the "members only" list is free of
vendors pitching their wares or bragging about their past or trying to
influence through propaganda..
Of course it's only open to paying WISPA members. But it is fairly private.
George
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good product, so ain't Trango, Moto, and the
others. I doubt the competitors are happy he is not using Alvarion. I
bet they would not be very happy to hear he was using Moto and not being
co-operative.
George
Steve Stroh wrote:
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As has happened recently.
Best way to convince is to educate.
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nda complicated, but to me the common denominator in all
this is to make the customer happy, and use them for woma.
Not saying your wrong, but rather it's how you look at it.
I look at it this way.
George
Peter R. wrote:
George Rogato wrote:
The very next day a sub called and complaine
Upsell, that is where I do not do as well.
You are right on Peter.
I also have a pc shop, and do fairly well at selling hardware, although
that is not as profitable as I would like it to be.
George
Peter R. wrote:
I was just asking you to examine what the true costs are of delivering
What say you Mr. Leary?
Has Alvarion been keeping up fast enough?
George
(oh yeah, I also think there was a lot of crap slung as cpe's)
Patrick Leary wrote:
Mac,
That's good news that some previously illegal gear is now undergoing FCC
certification. It is good for everyone, regard
That was a most unfortunate fact that has not been discussed on the
wispa list.
They never met a wisp and they are setting policy for muni wifi
Very scary.
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chronological
order starting the day you took the evangelist job up until now, and I
will demonstrate to you, how the big manufacturers hold us up.
Again, not a rub against Alvarion, I truly respect your company, but, I
want to make a point here.
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
George, ones
And, just list the American UL stuff, skip the non American and licensed
gear.
George Rogato wrote:
Aw come on now.
Thats was just a not well thought out hip shot slur.
Fact was you just said Tranzeo you admired. They were innovative. Been
there for 5 years now. I used them when you were
bably not, unless it is to their certified specs.
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wrong, but I would ass u me that they have been certified.
But do your due diligense and check first to make sure.
:)
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
"If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell, Of
course they are certified. Is the certification void if it was torn
apar
No little kids here. Mine are all grown. One is the admin for
OregonFAST.net and the other 2 are pc techs here as well.
2 of them are actually owners of this business.
My wife mentioned having another but at 49, I'm thinking thats not a
good thing.
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
You mus
in 12 more months
:)
W.D.McKinney wrote:
Hi George,
49 here also, when do you turn 50?
-Dee
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ly define your partners exit in agreeable terms before you enter
into an agreement. Like you will be the owner and he will be leaving and
here is what he is getting and how he is going to get it.
Also watch that you don't make the next guy the major "stakeholder" if
he de
goes to DC this next trip to
specifically ask:
If an ISP hands out static Public IP's to every customer and his
upstream is calea compliant, is he covered, assuming no voip is involved.
George
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hi All,
I hate confusion and unanswered questions.
So I sent this
with.
Not sure if it is viable, but it would be an easy solution for some
small isp's.
I just want to know how they going to figure out free open hotspots...
George
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
The upstream doesn't know what customer has what IP addy. I don't know
how th
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John, you must be in Qwest territory.
We see the 2 wire essid's all over the place, they're replacing the
older actiontec essid's.
George
John J. Thomas wrote:
I have one in front of me, the FCC ID is PGR2W2700RD.
From the 2Wire website
Eliminate Coldspots with HyperG Tec
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
H,
We need to work on this. We want to oppose the personal portable
devices at this time.
We don't want to see a bunch of linksys type routers with 2 mile ranges
Any ideas on how to go about it?
marlon
Marlon
Can you explain the strategy of opposing perso
now ?
Can't vendors make it so that whatever you use as the securing KEY can't be
contained in the hostname, essid or anywhere else ? Common Sense...
Argh.
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Got some free adverizing the other day out of nowhere:
http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/DuneCityPlug/
Just proves that if you work hard enough word of mouth advertizing works.
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Don't think it made it to the isp-wireless list
George
Rick Harnish wrote:
Kris Twomey wanted to remind everyone that FCC Form 477 is due today.
Thanks. I know some of you have been spreading the word on the FCC Form 477.
It's due tomorrow and all WISPs should be filing it. It&#x
I think your right.
I know I work hard and spend a lot of money trying to get the good word
out there.
It sure beats having a customer call up saying wireless sucks.
George
Mark Nash wrote:
I got a smile out of that one. The thing is that this kind of talk happens
CONSTANTLY...We just
Forbes Mercy wrote:
I'm in a rabble rousing mood today so I vote that if you don't fill out your Form 477 you are OUT of WISPA right after you got kicked out already for not have all stickers on your equipment.
Stiring the Pot just for fun,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc
nding rule of thumb.
George
Mac Dearman wrote:
Patrick,
Thanks for that info - I appreciate it much.
What I am trying to accomplish is (kill a bunch of birds with one stone)
connect these 5 remote locations via wireless to the hospital (AU located
here) and then use the 6th SU on my tower (1 mi
Right.
Wonder if he realizes the hit he will take doing it this way.
George
Gino Villarini wrote:
Exactly my point
Gino A. Villarini
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It's not true 54 megs. Its 30 megs.
George
Mac Dearman wrote:
It's really not as big a hit as you would think. It is a 54mbps AU and the
SU's are only 6mbps. The dedicated BW is 10mbps.
Mac Dearman
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Not to change the subject, but
on that page, I fund this a lot more disturbing..
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/03/vonage_fire.html
wispa wrote:
That at least SOME people agree with me.
http://blogs.globalcrossing.com/regulatory?from=50
The second entry on that page is very inte
Is the ALVARION VL 4.0 AP a polling radio system?
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Wel it's raining so hard here, it makes me think I'm stuck in a Ray
Bradbury short story. "The Long Rain"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Rain
So here is something to lighten the day:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0sNE9k8mZ1w
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Rich,
That was an excellent explanation.
And now I understand why my cell phone service is poor and not likely to
get better any time soon.
George
Rich Comroe wrote:
We don't have to agree. I certainly respect differing opinions as
long as their from people that seem to know the
.
Anyways, food for thought. I'd hate to see you go in with just one idea
that may make you not look as good as you are.
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
We do not poll, deliberately. Polling has lots of overhead, especially
as users are aggregated since all users are being polled whethe
You asked :)
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http://ftc.gov/opp/workshops/broadband/index.html
If anyone is really interested in what the big boys have to say and how
each side looks at things.
I watched this last weekend, was interesting.
George
John Scrivner wrote:
Mark your calendars folks, me and Mark K are in agreement for once
Panel 3 might get to the point quicker.
It's titled:
"Discrimination, Blockage, and Vertical Integration"
George Rogato wrote:
http://ftc.gov/opp/workshops/broadband/index.html
If anyone is really interested in what the big boys have to say and how
each side looks at thin
So what your saying Patrick is,
It's ok, we should go and buy some of these things and do some testing,
right?
:)
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Patrick Leary wrote:
You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :)
:)
Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in.
Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand
upon this.
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nd to see what kinds of results I
can get.
I am going to use it personally in a variety of different fashions.
We hired Kris months ago and we've paid him to handle our application.
I'm sure we will have to alter our application now that these guys have
George
Patrick Leary wrot
more
experimenting because they cost less than a redline, etc.
Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't just
sell them to just anyone with a cc.
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
George, to the extent that this thread contributes to myth quashing (a
never ending ta
hopefully
many will see the value of the information buried in here.
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Part-15 org people selling a "help get licensed on 3650 manual" -- their
webpage doesn't indicate to me that it is still experimental.
http://www.part-15.org/sales/3650manual.asp
Catch this from that page:
Training Manual
Have you looked into using 3650MHz for the security of Interfere
Test received...
Patrick Leary wrote:
Last post I received until the below was John's post entering this
thread just over one hour ago. Did the list go down?
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x27;m not the one to do a good job explaining this.
Maybe Butch or some one else can explain it.
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Funny, I was just checking out the news according to Yahoo Financial for
ticker ALVR to see whats going on.
You guys at Alvarion are tearing up the overseas WiMax markets.
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
Here are some further details.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/070309/mar2007pi20070308789499.html
Marlon is missing the advertizing dollars.
Eve I am getting money from google through their adsense. Not a lot, but
it's a check.
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
?
Marlon, income is never recorded with "investor monies" except to the
extent corporate investments generate ret
27;ve been told.
Now with that tidbit of information, you can figure out how they are
getting paid and can assume how those who direct people to google or
yahoo get reffereal commissions.
George
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Yeah, that's the part I don't get. Who's
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Point well taken.
Marlon <--- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up
to speed.
And underfunded
I have a sub who does signs and printing etc with his computerized stuff.
Kids only about 25, he made a skin for the Wii that got
Wednesday was the day according to:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070308/clearwire_ipo.html?.v=13
Craig McCaw's latest venture landed with a thud on Wall Street Thursday
after critics said his underwriters sold too many shares at too high a
price.
Clearwire Corp., a wireless Internet service provi
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leg
movements across the braces?
Thanks,
Travis
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uggestions on how to
resolve this problem?
Thanks
Ray Hill
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the short term it
looks like walmart wins.By the way we are located approx 2000 ft LOS from
their docks.again thanks for all the advice.
Ray Hill
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Thats why we need some outdoor only frequency.
The semi licensed makes more sense all the time.
Rick Smith wrote:
yeah? Wait'll 700 mhz is unlicensed. Talk about the perfect rfid spectrum.
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So is rfid going all 900 or is there other frequencies as well?
I'm not up to speed on rfid
W.D.McKinney wrote:
That would be a losing battle, as we have RFID deployed all over the
ship yards, the railroad and soon airport cargo facilities. The large
enterprise lobby will no doubt chime in.
-De
Peter R. wrote:
You guys do complain loudly but do very little action.
It is left to the few to fight for the many.
It's very lonely out here, wish more wisps would get past the 250.00 and
join wispa so that we can make things happen.
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George
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Peter R. wrote:
You guys do complain loudly but do very little action.
It is left to the few to fight for the many.
It's very lonely out here, wish more wisps would get past the 250.00 and
join wispa so that we can mak
As a matter of fact, to give Peter R. some pay back for helping us.
Do you guys know that he is " the man" to get you great pricing on
bandwidth, just about anyplace in the country.
So there is a plug for Peter R. and his ability to help you buy better.
George
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Why not have the students build them as part of a computer class?
I bet there are kids there that can run circles around some computer
people and it would be a great lesson for students who hope to take the
technology road in their career.
George
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Can you elaborate Travis.
What do you mean by unlimited?
If a sub downloads say 50 gigs in a month, do you not bother them unless
they are impacting an ap, or do you let them keep on going?
George
Travis Johnson wrote:
The unlimited model seems to be working for us for almost 10 years now
Thats the way I do it as well.
Travis Johnson wrote:
Unless they are causing a problem with other customers, we just let them
go. 99% of the time the issue is an upload running (p2p, virus, etc.)
but if they are just downloading, it's fine with me.
Travis
George Rogato wrote:
Ca
Market forces dictate that Tom.
Sure there are lots of companies that don't make a profit and have some
relatively high stock prices.
But the market forces are that if a company is not a viable eventual
profit maker, then people sell those shares and the price goes down.
If the price goes down
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It depends on who provides you the figures...
People go to jail when those figures are wrong.
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Peter R. wrote:
Not to compare it to a skunk, but look at Vonage stock.
Tanked quick despite their accounting methods.
(Sure some of that was from the patent lawsuit, but it was fading before
that).
- Peter
Yeah, but Vonage also shot itself in the foot on IPO
"We will offer refunds if our st
Thats funny, didn't notice my clock off till just now.
Is there something wrong with xp's clock?
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the
right time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time.
I just unchecked the "adjust for daylight savings" bu
oh yeah, time.gov usually has the right time :)
George Rogato wrote:
Thats funny, didn't notice my clock off till just now.
Is there something wrong with xp's clock?
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Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the
right time, and it kee
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I need a couple very short range PtP links. A few hundred feet at most
for each one. Something that did close to 50 or even 100 megs duplex
would be good
Has anyone worked with Free Space Optics and can advice?
Also looking to be frugal. But don't want 5 gig.
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Non set budget.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
what's the budget?
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I need a couple very short range P
x27;s?
does the power supplies burn out or the units need to be repaired often?
Or are they switch em on and walk a way for a few years?
George
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hard to beat orthogon!
And for a link that short I'd look REALLY hard at fso gear.
http://www.plaintree.com/
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I wonder how much a set of Plaintree WBLS100 are?
100megs full duplex would do the trick for me. I'm only going across the
street 100 yards or so. Twice. I need two sets of PtP links.
George
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
As far as I know, both are very good units.
I know
nough
smarts to do this?. Even a little guy like me knows how to block an
offending IP address, and I am stupid, LOL!
Matt Liotta wrote:
http://gigaom.com/2007/03/14/why-did-level-3-turn-off-a-rural-isp/
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Unfortunatly not.
There are mountains and 60 miles between us and them and it's Qwest
territory anyways.
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
Can you do a microwave shot from another town/provider?
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You know, this really is the answer. Two different isp's
I've had the customers over the years, that want 10- 9's because
their business depends upon the internet, but then they don't want to
pay an extra 30 - 40.00 per month to get it.
John Scrivner wrote:
I tell them the fiber is down. I
Matt Liotta wrote:
George Rogato wrote:
You know, this really is the answer. Two different isp's
I've had the customers over the years, that want 10- 9's because
their business depends upon the internet, but then they don't want to
pay an extra 30 - 40.00 per month to
Peter R. wrote:
Two, I am pretty sure that there is more to this story than what was
written.
And if Said Inc. was talking to L3 Security as often as implied, it
would seem they had some issues that they did not want to own up to.
- Peter
Me too, I caught the , web hosting, adult sites, and
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See now that is the issue around here.
If we want true redundancy we need to ride two different fibers out of town.
One is the fiber we are alrea
Scott Reed wrote:
Who supplies pre-terminated (N connectors) cables in the 70 to 150'
range using LMR 600, LMR900 and/or Heliax? Looking to move radios to
the bottom of towers.
You can buy them preterminated from electro-comm.com
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