Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure. It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the same or similar clip art gallery or CD? Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no. Has to be the whole wispa logo, not just part of it. I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: JohnnyO To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to learn a little bit about house cleaning from this. Who is Bob Smith ? *Bob Smith Wrote* HI All, I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you all might get a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower install' The tower in the pictures is used by a TV translator system , but a new WISP in Ky. is thinking of putting up a system on the tower also. He is experiencing a whole lot of electrical noise when he mounts his antennas on the tower, but he can hold them in his hand, not mounted, and the noise goes away. So now he's thinking of wrapping the mounts with electrical tape to insulate them from the tower and install his equipment. (Good electrical practice?) My comment to him was "tie a cable to his bumper and to the tower and drive away from the tower, this way he would be doing both the tower owner and himself a favor". No kidding aside, as you can see in the pictures (#13 - #27) the tower is a mess. http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/index.php Gawd, ham's get hassled in California for a 30' tower, and in Ky. you can just put of anything, anyway and use it ,, Go figure. Bob Smith NA6T Bob Smith A.R.S NA6T ARRL Life Member Fort Bragg, California 95437 "On The Air-Conditioned Mendocino Coast, In REAL Northern California" No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA (Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why I'm giving it a look. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo I understand the problem. Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help us get some spectrum. The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it up! Join TODAY! KyWiFi LLC wrote: >We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members >of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local >vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure. >It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so >maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the >same or similar clip art gallery or CD? > > >Sincerely, >Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder >KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky >http://www.KyWiFi.com >http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com >Phone: 859.274.4033 >A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider > >== >Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and >UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! > >No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles > >FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com >== > > >- Original Message - >From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" >Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo > > >Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no. Has to be the whole wispa logo, not >just part >of it. > >I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy. > >Marlon >(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: JohnnyO > To: wireless@wispa.org > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:18 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo > > > Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ? >http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg > > Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to > learn a >little bit about house cleaning from this. > > Who is Bob Smith ? > > *Bob Smith Wrote* > > HI All, > > I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you > all might get > a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower > install' > > The tower in the pictures is used by a TV translator system , but a new WISP > in Ky. is thinking of putting up a system on the tower also. > > He is experiencing a whole lot of electrical noise when he mounts his > antennas > on the tower, but he can hold them in his hand, not mounted, and the noise > goes away. So now he's thinking of wrapping the mounts with electrical tape > to > insulate them from the tower and install his equipment. (Good > electrical practice?) > > My comment to him was "tie a cable to his bumper and to the tower and > drive away from the tower, this way he would be doing both the tower owner > and > himself a favor". No kidding aside, as you can see in the pictures > (#13 - #27) > the tower is a mess. > > http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/index.php > > Gawd, ham's get hassled in California for a 30' tower, and in Ky. you can > just > put of anything, anyway and use it ,, Go figure. > > Bob S
Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
Hi Rick, Thanks for the e-mail. I tried logging in to view the current membership of the wireless@wispa.org listserv but it is rejecting my password. I am entering the same e-mail address and password I subscribed with so please e-mail me offlist what you are showing to be my login credentials. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo Shannon, You can go to http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless and login with your email and password to view the current membership of the wireless@wispa.org listserv. Let me know privately if you forgot your password. Currently the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list is private to all paid members. We discuss things on that list that we do not discuss on the open wireless@wispa.org list. There are currently about 50 paid members of WISPA. We would like to double that number in 2006. We have tried to maintain an affordable membership fee so that we can attract more members. New membership applications can be found at http://signup.wispa.org/wispa-newacct.html. Thank you, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA (Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why I'm giving it a look. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo I understand the problem. Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help us get some spectrum. The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it up! Join TODAY! KyWiFi LLC wrote: >We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members >of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local >vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure. >It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so >maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the >same or similar clip art gallery or CD? > > >Sincerely, >Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder >KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky >http://www.KyWiFi.com >http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com >Phone: 859.274.4033 >A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider > >== >Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and >UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! > >No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles > >FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com >== > > >- Original Message - >From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" >Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo > > >Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no. Has to be the whole wispa logo, not just part >of it. > >I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy. > >Marlon >(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >428468
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
Beautiful enclosure Rick! How long before we see these available at RadioShack? ;-) Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator Nah, that one is a mess (hurried job), here is the way they should look. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator Rick, Sweet! You did a heck of a clean job on that cabnet. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator >I use Signamax fiber transceivers. They run on 12vDC. I still run AC up > the tower with 12 guage wire in EMT conduit to a box with a regulated 12v > power supply. I have attached a photo of a recent box that has fiber > running down a 260' tower. The fiber transceiver is on the left side. > There is also a Hirschman 4 port switch with a fiber port beside it. We > wanted to try both and allow some redundancy. I doubt if I put two in the > next application. In this case we ran 12 strand hybrid fiber up the > tower. > It was over kill but we had enough extra left over from another job that > it > was convenient and cheap to use. There is also a Corcom RF isolator > inline > on the power leads. I designed this box to combat a recent installation > of > a 7000w FM radio transmitter mounted 10' below our system. > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:56 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator > > But then you need AC up the tower right? > Or how do you do it? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 PM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator > > >> >> For this, I've normally used an Ethernet fiber converter. Cat5 -> Fiber >> on >> the tower and Fiber -> Cat5 down below. >> >> These are "standard" 10/100 megabit Ethernet converters readily available >> from networking supply houses. >> >> >> Frank Keeney >> Pasadena Networks, LLC >> Antennas, Cables and Equipment: >> http://www.wlanparts.com >> >> -Original Message- >> On Behalf Of Jason Wallace >> >> >>Does anyone know of a good isolator for cat5? I want to really >> protect >> my network from a tower mounted radio. >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations
Blair, Where are you seeing the -62 reported? StarOS? Mikrotik? According to my calcs, your link below is a perfect link. The link calculator I use estimates your loss at each side to be 2dBm. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations I have an 8 mile link with CM9 cards (17db) and 27db grids. This link has clear LoS. I get -62 sig strength at each end YMMV Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db > radio’s and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I > am thinking about using a pair of Tranzeo TR-5a-24f for a 5 mile link > but I am skeptical about the low power. > > Kurt Fankhauser > > WAVELINC > > 114 S. Walnut St. > > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > 419-562-6405 > > www.wavelinc.com > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Hi Scriv, We tried Lingo but could not get it to work reliably and their voice quality was horrible when it did work. Their support is overseas so expect to be treated like a number instead of a person. LNP's are hard to get approved and people calling our ported number often got a busy signal when we were not on the phone. Even if we were on the phone, they should not have received a busy signal because we their service is suppose to include call waiting. During the first week or two after our number was ported, some callers received a "This number has been disconnected" message when they called us. My advice is to turn and run. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do make money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share more about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in knowing anything I can about them right now. Thanks, Scriv Peter R. wrote: > You haven't seen it yet, because Lingo is not profitable yet. > Primus owns Lingo and Primus is basically an International VOIP company. > > Like so many VOIP Providers, they are still trying to figure out how > to make a profit. > > Delta3 (which is the backend for VZ's VoiceWing) made $9.1M in revenue > in 4Q05 and just $22k in income. > > Vonage has a customer acquisition cost that is 20 times their MRC. > > Regards, > > Peter > > > Jonathan Schmidt wrote: > >> I've been personally delighted with two years of Lingo giving me >> unlimited USA/Canada/EUROPE calling on 7 lines each for $19.95/month >> and an unusually rich set of features (like e-mailing me compressed WAV >> files of all incoming voicemails, etc.). >> >> Now, that's retail w/box and support. >> >> I've taken the box on trips and routed it through my laptop Ethernet >> while >> the laptop is on a V.32 dialup and it works but sounds kind of like a >> cell >> phone but having my local number with me in Europe and having unlimited >> free calls throughout Europe from Europe or Eastern Europe for ZERO >> additional cost is kinda cool. >> >> It's SIP but they keep promising a soft phone for the line, like >> Vonaga, but >> haven't seen it yet. >> >> . . . j o n a t h a n > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors
How much can this model be purchased for? It looks like a good high gain H-POL sector IMO. We've been quite pleased with SuperPass sectors but their gain is only 13.5dBi for a 120 Degree H-POL. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Julius Igugu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs - Original Message - From: "Jason Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors > Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n > 15-124, in a 3 antenna array? Anyone know what the front to back ratio > is on one of these? How about weatherability? > > Jason Wallace > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
We live in a town of 6,000 people and there are only 20,000 in the county. The city water company makes $3000+ per month from one of their water tanks. They charge $1000 - $1500 per month per tenant. The tank is only 100' tall so I don't know why the cell companies just don't erect their own tower in the area, there is a lot of land here for sale at prices in the $3k - $10k per acre range. Most water companies however will swap out free broadband and free installation for free use of their water tanks. Others are happy to receive $50 - $100 per month per water tank. I think what it really comes down to is who you are and who you know when dealing with water companies. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Cliff Leboeuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, The $1,000 per month was probably set by some cellular company years ago. The cell provider probably has its own tower now, but the $1,000 number remains in the water tower owners head and is probably 'pie-in-the-sky,' especially now. I have also located on billboards here... Where there's a will...there's a way! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Thanks Cliff (and everyone else). The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower. Needless to say that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000). So, I'm working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere near the $1000 per month for a water tower. Other towers, yes, maybe, but not water towers - at least not that I have found. - Original Message - From: "Cliff Leboeuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Hensley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation > > >> I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have >> another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if >> anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / >> connections, etc), etc etc. >> >> Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything >> will help. >> >> Thanks a lot in advance!!! >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8" diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding
What do you ground the shield to? We are needing to ground the mounting arm. Plus, I would think that it would be hard to attach the shield to a ground rod plus this would require that the Cat5 be cut outside which is something we are wanting to prevent. If we had a Cat5 with an attached ground wire then it would be nice to cut the ground wire and attach both of the cut ends to the ground rod then the outside end would be attached to the mounting arm and the inside end could be attached to a Cat5 surge protector. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this. We use it on all tower installs but not for CPE's. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it would take to make it. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding I know this is something every WISP should be interested in using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000' spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff. While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8" diameter copper ground rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up
That's an Atheros chipset on the PCB but what type of PCB is it? The model # in the pics looks like 8WAPD15_5A1 but Google.com doesn't turn anything up on it. Looks like a homebrew solution IMO. -Shannon - Original Message - From: "Matt Glaves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up Hey Folks, Last month I posted to the list asking about low cost 5Ghz bridges and a few folks responded that I should check out Airaya. I decided to give them a try based on some really excellent discounts from one of our vendors. In short, I hate them :-) If you're interested in why, feel free to hit me off list.. We bought two complete links and before installing the first one I cracked it open and took a picture of its high tech innards to share with this list. I hope this helps those looking at sub $3k PTP bridges. http://www.pinn.net/~glaves/DSCN0714.JPG http://www.pinn.net/~glaves/DSCN0712.JPG thanks, matt _ From: Matt Glaves Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:50 PM To: 'wireless@wispa.org' Subject: Solectek Skyway 7000 I have never used the Solectek equipment and am looking at either trying their Skyway 7101 or the Trango Atlas for some short building to building links. I have seen enough favorable posts about the Atlas to know plenty of you are using it successfully - although I sure wish I could get one of their sales folks to return a phone call. Leave a message about buying 250 CPEs and no one calls back Anyway :-) I would like to get opinions on the Skyway 7000. This would be for very short <.5 mile links between buildings. We would normally use Terabeam/Proxim systems but are looking for alternatives with similar capabilities and 20-40% lower cost. Any info/opinions on reliability and real world throughput would be great. Thanks, Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hosted PBX
Hi Chris, We have a 5-line hosted PBX system from Nuvio and it has worked flawlessly since day one. You can do so many kewl things nowadays with a hosted PBX system that I can't see any reasons for going with a non-hosted PBX system instead of a hosted PBX. If you would like to earn a commission from selling hosted PBX systems, contact me offlist. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] Hosted PBX Ive got a client that has a need for a 90 seat PBX system. E-911 isnt much of an issue as these are all just inter-office lines. Ive looked at Nuvio's hosted PBX but haven't actually put one to use. Any pointers good/bad on Hosted PBX systems? Thanks, Chris Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform
I agree, I would think that 12 months is plenty long enough, definitely not more than 36 months. Take our company for example, we deployed 7 broadcast sites in our first 12 months of operation and we were profitable by month number 8 or 9 and this was WITHOUT any "free" money. If a company in this line of work cannot achieve a profit in their first year or two of operation, I don't see them being around long term. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform 10 to 20 year time line? I would like to see 1 to 5 years. I do not see how a network can not be profitable in that time frame with "free" monies. Jeromie Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > Hi All, > > Here's what WISPA is prepared to submit to the commerce committee. > Thought you guys would like a peek at it first. > > > > WISPA USF Reform Position Paper > > > >WISPA is a the WISP industry's only industry owned and > operated trade association. We're a 501c6 corporation with a 7 > person, membership elected board. > > > >The goals for USF should be clarified. Are laptops for > kids part of the program goals? Was it the original intent that USF > exclude small local entrepreneurs and give preferential treatment to > the incumbent? As USF changes, do the changes have a clear goal? Is > this just a mechanism to try to put more funds into the program > otherwise leave it as is? Or does Congress want to see substantial > changes in the program that do more to foster rather than stifle > innovation? > > > >WISPA believes that market forces should mostly be left to > their own. Without government tweaking. USF should be canceled > completely. If a real need for outside funding in regions or small > pockets turns out to be needed, address those issues on a case by case > basis. At the very least the USF program needs major reform as its > cost based fee structure encourages abuse. > > > >An example of artificially high costs would be in Odessa, > Washington. In the early 2000 time frame the local telco replaced an > 8 T-1 microwave link with a fiber optic line at a cost (or so we've > been told) of $600,000. Even at the time, the cost of a microwave > replacement with more capacity would have been half or less. This is > for a town of 1000 that's not on the way to anywhere. The telco is > now in the process of adding more fiber to complete a fiber loop to > other areas. This next 30 mile stretch is through many solid rock > canyons and the costs are expected to be even higher. > > > >This same telco has installed $60,000 DSL systems in rural > areas that have fewer than 15 houses within 18,000 feet of the hut. > Clearly these are cost raising mechanisms. > > > >We understand that USF is not likely to go away at this > time. The above telco gets 2/3rds of its income via subsidies and > would not likely survive without them. Leaving such business > practices in place permanently is not good public policy though. > > > >WISPA proposes that a time limit on the USF program be > instituted. Expand the program to include all communications > companies and use USF to help them build an infrastructure. Once that > system is built, it needs to stand on its own two legs though. If it > doesn't, then that's the company's fault and they can live with the > results of the network they built. Somewhere between 10 and 20 years > should allow plenty of time for efficient network upgrades or > construction. The program should not be viewed as a permanent profit > line item for companies but rather be a short term > capitalization/construction fund that will end and leave the company > standing (or not) on its own two feet at a set specific date. > > > > We believe that opening up USF to all operators would likely cause > multiple networks to be built at the same time and the most efficient > ones would survive. If, after USF was discontinued some areas were > left with no viable options for service those specific cases could be > addressed under some
Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform
Generally speaking no. However, if the 2 customers are commercial customers paying a few hundred or a few thousand dollars per month, then yes, if the numbers work out to our benefit. Cost is what makes or breaks a deal so everything has to be analyzed properly. In most cases, a $400 telephone pole deployment will suffice in place of a tower. Our company has recently started to deploy roof top repeaters to pick up additional customers. Under our business model, we can normally justify the cost of the repeater even if we are just picking up 1 additional residential customer. In most cases, that 1 customer is willing to cover part or all of the cost of the roof top repeater and its installation on a neighbor's home/barn/silo. What are the current requirements in order for a telco to receive USF money? Are they required to provide service to a specific % of the population in the areas where they receive USF money? A good friend of mine was once quoted $11,000 by the local telco to run a phone line to his home (he lives a half mile or so off his road in a rural area). I would think that the telco must provide service to 100% of the population in the areas for which they receive the USF money but this is evidently not how it is structured. Also, how is the USF money currently shared amongst multiple telcos in the same area/city? How much USF money is there? What determines the amount each telco receives? -Shannon - Original Message - From: "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform Are you willing to put up a tower to serve 2 customers? Only if you think you can get your money back. John >-Original Message- >From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 01:11 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform > >I agree, I would think that 12 months is plenty long enough, >definitely not more than 36 months. Take our company for >example, we deployed 7 broadcast sites in our first 12 months >of operation and we were profitable by month number 8 or 9 >and this was WITHOUT any "free" money. If a company in >this line of work cannot achieve a profit in their first year or >two of operation, I don't see them being around long term. > > >Sincerely, >Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder >KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky >http://www.KyWiFi.com >http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com >Phone: 859.274.4033 >A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider > >== >Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and >UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! > >No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles > >FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com >== > > >- Original Message - >From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "WISPA General List" >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:30 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform > > >10 to 20 year time line? I would like to see 1 to 5 years. I do not see >how a network can not be profitable >in that time frame with "free" monies. > >Jeromie > >Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Here's what WISPA is prepared to submit to the commerce committee. >> Thought you guys would like a peek at it first. >> >> >> >> WISPA USF Reform Position Paper >> >> >> >>WISPA is a the WISP industry's only industry owned and >> operated trade association. We're a 501c6 corporation with a 7 >> person, membership elected board. >> >> >> >>The goals for USF should be clarified. Are laptops for >> kids part of the program goals? Was it the original intent that USF >> exclude small local entrepreneurs and give preferential treatment to >> the incumbent? As USF changes, do the changes have a clear goal? Is >> this just a mechanism to try to put more funds into the program >> otherwise leave it as is? Or does Congress want to see substantial >> changes in the program that do more to foster rather than stifle >> innovation? >> >> >> >>WISPA believes that market forces should mostly be left to >> their own. Without government tweaking. USF should be canceled >> completely. If a real need for outside funding in regions or small >> pockets turns out to be needed, address those issues on a case by case >> basis. At the very least the USF program needs major reform as its >> cost based fee structure encourages abuse. >> >> >> >>An example of artificially high costs would be in
Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform
Where does a WISP look to find out if their state/city will allow them to provide broadband service to schools under the erate program? I tried searching google but didn't see any details listed for our state. -Shannon - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform Same here in Michigan. We provide internet and data services under the erate to several schools. John Scrivner wrote: > >> Years ago I looked into what it would take to sell access to the >> school. erate is set up so that one company provides all telecom >> needs to the school. Voice, data etc. The only companies that can >> do that are the ilec or a clec. > > > > This is not true in Illinois. We have what is called a "SPIN" number > which allows us to sell Internet to schools even if they get other > services from other providers. I am not an ILEC or a CLEC. > Scriv > -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband
I'm noticing more and more WISP's selling their wireless broadband service as "DSL" or "Wireless DSL". I know that 75% of the people who call our sales number have a difficult time understanding what Wireless Broadband is. They already know what DSL is and that is what the majority of them ask for so I would be interested in hearing everyone's opinions on the pros and cons of a WISP labeling their wireless broadband service as "DSL, wDSL or Wireless DSL" instead of "Fixed Wireless, WiFI or Wireless Broadband". If the masses are more familiar with the term DSL then I think we would generate more sales leads by advertising our (WISPs') broadband as DSL instead of Wireless Broadband. I'm sure the local telco would just love to see all of us selling "DSL". Are there any legalities to this? Does wireless broadband qualify as DSL or a form of DSL in the eyes of the law? Is it legal for a WISP to sell their wireless broadband service as DSL? Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Hi Dylan, Here is the e-mail I originally sent to the P15 list which contains links to their state notices for the states I could find them associated with. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.? They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices that I have found however, based on search engine results, it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate where they are based or their contact information. I searched bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company. There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away for areas that already have broadband available whether the area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC. North Carolina: http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf South Carolina: http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985 Maine: http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=91346 Colorado: http://tinyurl.com/g99rl Connecticut: http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=93998 Idaho: http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browse&cat=Personals&code=018 http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous Nevada: http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcan&ui=tb&a=850526 Rhode Island: http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm Vermont: http://tinyurl.com/ghruo Iowa: http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm Georgia: http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm Texas: http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detail&main=LEGALS Kentucky: If you are a provider offering service in one or more of the cities for which Open Range Communications Inc. has applied for RUS funds, you need to file a Legal Notice Response Form ASAP. Here are the links to the form and the necessary reporting instructions: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband/legal-notice-response-form.doc http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband/legal-notice-response-form.pdf You have 30 days from the date their notice was posted if you wish to file a response to stop them from receiving funds for the applicable cities for which they have applied. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $19.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Is there a centralized listing of all communities to be effected by Open Range? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISP For Sale with 100+ Subscribers
At this time, my partner and I would like to solicit inquiries for our WISP for sale. We have 100+ fixed wireless subscribers on a routed StarOS network consisting of 11 broadcast sites (4 additional sites are under contract but not yet deployed with 10+ subscribers already awaiting service from each). Company has zero debt and ultra-low fixed operation costs. All CPE is owned by us and the majority of subscribers are on auto-renewing 2 year contract terms. We are asking 12x - 18x monthly revenue. Business is being sold due to partners' limited time availability. Cash flow positive with a bright future for growth. 75% of new customers presently come from word of mouth referrals. Very little advertising has been done to date as we've focused on network buildout more so than customer acquisition. Great opportunity for anyone looking to acquire or start a WISP. Business can be managed remotely and 30 days of training are included. 90% of the subscribers pay via debit/credit card, billing/invoicing takes less than 1 hour per month. On average, the company receives 3 - 5 support inquires per week which, along with all sales inquiries, are handled by a sub-contractor. The company has ZERO employees! All site surveys, installations, service calls, subscriber and tower maintenance work is handled via a sub-contractor with set pricing. Documented, consistent growth rate with excellent service and support reputation. Approx. 20 - 30 VoIP subscriber accounts are also included in the sale. The wireless network presently utilizes unlicensed spectrum in the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies. Please contact me offlist for additional details and NDA if interested. My personal e-mail address is shannon at kywifi.com Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy
Here's the version I think you are looking for John: http://tinyurl.com/z7ovs I purchased one of these a while back but haven't had the time to play with it yet. It's like $200 off right now while they still have stock so you better go grab one if this is what you are looking for. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy HI, We have used many of these, but they aren't sub-$100... http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html Travis Microserv J. Vogel wrote: >I seem to recall that someone posted a link to a sub-$100 ping >watchdog/reboot >unit on one of these lists recently, but I cannot locate the message I >am thinking >I saw. I need a simple device to power-cycle an access point radio or >two when >pings to the network default gateway fail. > >Can anybody point me to such a thing? Thanks! > >John Vogel > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
We use a rotary hammer drill with a special bit that is for driving grounding rods and man does it make them slide right in like a hot knife through butter. It will even drive them through small rocks. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but tis the easiest way I know how. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, " You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in." You don't need "the big ass Hammer"! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
Discontinued by Wisp-Router.com or all vendors? There's no mention of this on http://www.pcengines.ch Where did you hear this? I recall hearing that the chipset used on the current WRAP platform has been discontinued but to my knowledge, there is a replacement chipset available which will be used on future batches of WRAP boards. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "jeffrey thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device Fyi everyone, wrap boards have been discontinued On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:45:00 -0500, "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > If you order it all from wisp-router they will assemble it for your so > you would get a die-cast case with the RB mounted the radios and > pigtails installed. All you would need to do is set up the software end > of things, which could be done with a script once you have the initial > setup done. One thing to note, I have not ordered 5Ghz pigtails from > wisp-router in quite sometime, but the last time I did order them, their > quality was questionable. > > I would bet if you went the WRAP/StarOS route wisp-router would do the > same. No idea on other vendors or the WAR boards as I have never > ordered them. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > Matt Liotta wrote: > > > I am looking for a device I can buy that does all of this out of the > > box. I don't want to build my own since I need 30-40 of them in the > > next 30 days. > > > > -Matt > > > > Sam Tetherow wrote: > > > >> Mikrotik on a routerboard 532 should do the trick although I haven't > >> messed with the VLAN stuff. > >> I am not a StarOS user, but I would bet that a StarOS setup on either > >> a WRAP or WAR board would work > >> as well. > >> > >>Sam Tetherow > >>Sandhills Wireless > >> > >> Matt Liotta wrote: > >> > >>> I am looking for a device with the following requirements: > >>> > >>> * Can backhaul at >11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band > >>> * Can support VLANs > >>> * Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet port > >>> * Powered by PoE (the standard is not required) > >>> * Can act as a 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi access point assigned to a different > >>> VLAN than the Ethernet port > >>> * Everything in a single outdoor enclosure > >>> > >>> Any ideas? > >>> > >>> -Matt > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP
Hi Lee, We've had great success with 18" X 24" yard signs posted at intersections: http://www.IncomeBuddy.com/ad.php?id=68&at=71 I would also suggest making friends with your local real estate developers so you can post 3' X 6' banners at the entrance to their subdivisions: http://www.IncomeBuddy.com/ad.php?id=68&at=72 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === ISP Business Management System: http://www.ISPBuddy.com === - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP Gentlemen; I am in the final stages of design and have begun to guild my WISP. I was wondering what the most effective methods were for marketing? I was thinking of using the mail, possibly arranging a demo in a parking lot, flyers, and of course adding my company name to the lists on the internet. Lee -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed
Hi Javier, The web development company I own is creating a web-based business management system for ISP's. You can subscribe to the system's launch notification list at http://www.ISPBuddy.com It is going to offer numerous features, including WISP monitor and billing processes and it will be affordable. I'm already using it to alert me when devices become unresponsive and it automatically logs in daily and backs up the settings for all of our access points so we have them readily available in the event a restore is needed. If there are special features you have in mind, contact me offlist and I'll see what we can do to accommodate your requests if the features aren't already planned. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:39 AM Subject: [WISPA] WiSP info needed I plan to create a WiSP using Alvarion equipment in a rural area in Spain. I want to offer data and in the future voice as well. Do you now any good WiSP monitor/billing software?, is it expensive? Thanks in advanced. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed
It will be 100% web-based so you will not need to install anything as it will all reside on the ISPBuddy.com's servers. So, you'll be able to manage your ISP business from anywhere you have a computer and Internet access (dial-up or broadband, doesn't matter). The billing module will integrate with Authorize.net and LinkPoint to start and others will be added upon request and if feasible. - Shannon - Original Message - From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed Hi Shannon, is your web solution meant to be installed in one server in our offices or is it a solution similar to fon (external billing and so on)? Thanks, Javier On 7/6/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Javier, > > The web development company I own is creating a web-based > business management system for ISP's. You can subscribe to the > system's launch notification list at http://www.ISPBuddy.com It > is going to offer numerous features, including WISP monitor and > billing processes and it will be affordable. I'm already using it to > alert me when devices become unresponsive and it automatically > logs in daily and backs up the settings for all of our access points > so we have them readily available in the event a restore is needed. > If there are special features you have in mind, contact me offlist > and I'll see what we can do to accommodate your requests if the > features aren't already planned. > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > http://www.KyWiFi.com > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > === > $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet > $14.99 Home Phone Service > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > - FREE Activation & Equipment > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > - Locally Owned & Operated > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > === > > > - Original Message - > From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:39 AM > Subject: [WISPA] WiSP info needed > > > I plan to create a WiSP using Alvarion equipment in a rural area in Spain. > I > want to offer data and in the future voice as well. Do you now any good > WiSP > monitor/billing software?, is it expensive? > > Thanks in advanced. > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed
Tom, what exactly are you wanting to automate between your billing solution and technical backend? - Shannon - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed ASP model accounting software is all good and fine if all you want to do is use the application. But what happens when you want to start automating and integrating the billing solution to your technical backend? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed > It will be 100% web-based so you will not need to install anything > as it will all reside on the ISPBuddy.com's servers. So, you'll be able > to manage your ISP business from anywhere you have a computer and > Internet access (dial-up or broadband, doesn't matter). The billing > module will integrate with Authorize.net and LinkPoint to start and > others will be added upon request and if feasible. > > - Shannon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed > > > Hi Shannon, > > is your web solution meant to be installed in one server in our offices or > is it a solution similar to fon (external billing and so on)? > > Thanks, > > Javier > > > On 7/6/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi Javier, >> >> The web development company I own is creating a web-based >> business management system for ISP's. You can subscribe to the >> system's launch notification list at http://www.ISPBuddy.com It >> is going to offer numerous features, including WISP monitor and >> billing processes and it will be affordable. I'm already using it to >> alert me when devices become unresponsive and it automatically >> logs in daily and backs up the settings for all of our access points >> so we have them readily available in the event a restore is needed. >> If there are special features you have in mind, contact me offlist >> and I'll see what we can do to accommodate your requests if the >> features aren't already planned. >> >> >> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder >> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky >> "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" >> http://www.KyWiFi.com >> Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 >> === >> $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet >> $14.99 Home Phone Service >> - No Phone Line Required for DSL >> - FREE Activation & Equipment >> - Affordable Upfront Pricing >> - Locally Owned & Operated >> - We Also Service Most Rural Areas >> === >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:39 AM >> Subject: [WISPA] WiSP info needed >> >> >> I plan to create a WiSP using Alvarion equipment in a rural area in >> Spain. >> I >> want to offer data and in the future voice as well. Do you now any good >> WiSP >> monitor/billing software?, is it expensive? >> >> Thanks in advanced. >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
-90 is not just bad, it's horrible. ;-) It has been my experience that a signal of -75 or better *should* allow for a reliable 11Mbps connection rate. I have seen times when the subscriber had a -65 to -60 and they would only associate at a rate of 1Mbps but after changing channels, their association rate was able to negotiate at the optimal rate of 11Mbps. We also have a subscriber with a -89 and they have been able to sustain a constant 11Mbps rate which blows my mind. They are one of our happiest subscribers and since we have not noticed a degradation in service/speed from the AP to which they are associated, we have left them connected. I will be testing a 400mw 2.4GHz CPE at their location in the near future. Right now, they have a 18dBi CPE with a 24dBi grid and they are connected to a 13.5dBi H-POL sector and 18dBi radio which is 7 miles away. They use to have a -75 I think it was but the trees around the halfway mark between the sector and them have since then grown into their link's fresnel zone. We service rural Central and Eastern Kentucky and I would say our noise floor is around -95 to -90 in most areas. We always use the largest antenna approved by the subscriber. If we can get a -75 link with a 13dBi panel, we normally go with a 19dBi panel so we can get the signal into -60's. Just try to keep your signal level in the -75 to -55 range and you *should* do well with 2.4GHz. I can't wait until the day when we can deploy 5GHz CPE for the same price as our 2.4GHz CPE. But, as time goes on, I'm sure 5GHz spectrum will someday be used the same (if not more) than 2.4GHz and we will all be looking for the next best piece of spectrum to utilize for our PtMP links. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Interference really isn't much of an issue here. There's one other WISP and we work pretty closely together to stay out of each other's way. We've analyzed the area and nothing else is out there but us and the typical home APs. So -90 is that bad huh? Guess I may need to rethink those two installs. - Original Message - From: "Chad Halsted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems No personal experience on the X10, but from what I here, it will give you nightmares. Seems like I heard Marlon speak such wonderful things about the x10 before, eh Marlon? -90 signal is never a good thing. We won't do an install unless it's -75 or better. Sometimes even a -75 isn't strong enough to combat all the interference we have in town. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems I've got a two AP WDS setup with Tranzeo TR-6000's with PacWireless 13db omni's on each. They are less than a mile apart. Any idea how many CPE's can run on each AP before it starts causing issues? We're going to be replacing the WDS setup with an actual backhaul soon, but just haven't gotten it done yet. I'm having trouble with performance. Works fine for awhile and then it seems to bog down, and then back to normal again. I've got about 10 clients (all Tranzeo gear) on each of the AP's. I wouldn't think that this would cause issues but I may be wrong. Signal between the WDS connections is around the -65 mark so that's no problem. I've got a couple of marginal clients (running -90 or so) so I'm wondering if these could possibly be causing it. Everything is horizontal pol. When the service completely drops out I can get to the AP's just fine from the client end, but can't get to the router (RB532). I've switched out cabling, switches, etc with no luck. Have a new 532 on the way so I'm going to switch it out as well and see what happens, but anyone have any other thoughts? Also, anyone have experience with an X10 camera shutting down their network? Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archive
[WISPA] Field Techs & Non-Standard Installations
We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc. How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20 to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups
Does Mikrotik have a method of backing up its settings like is done with the StarOS StarUtil commands? If so, what are the commands? I'm wanting to make sure we automate this much needed task with http://www.ISPBuddy.com which will allow automated nightly backups to our remote storage facility. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Is that 1 radio card serving 200 subscribers or multiple radio cards? Which radio card(s)? 802.11g or 802.11a? BTW, bravo on 200 subs from 1 AP! What would you say the population is for the coverage area of this AP? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Oh yeah that AP is serving about 200 or more subs. George George Rogato wrote: > > > Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: >> As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot >> achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. > > Hey Lonnie, you should try war boards, speed is killer. here's my speed > test across a pair of them. > It's about the same for all my customers who are using them. > > OregonFast SpeedTest > > > Your current bandwidth reading is: > > 15398.5 Kbps > > which means you can download at 1924.81 KB/sec. from our servers. > > ;) > > George -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups
Did you mean to say "updates" or "backups"? We were planning on writing some scripts to login to Mikrotik devices to download their backup file but after realizing that most of the ISP's I know are using static IP's on their Mikrotik devices, I think the backup-to-email method is the way to go. What we are going to do is issue http://www.ISPBuddy.com members their own unique e-mail address to configure in their Mikrotik devices. Then, when ISP Buddy receives the backup files, it will archive them in the member's account for the time specified by the member. This way, the member will always have daily backups for all of their Mikrotik devices and the files will be stored offsite in a secure environment and accessible 24/7/365 via any Internet connection. One thing that we are able to do with StarOS devices that I have not yet figured out how to do with Mikrotik devices is the real-time editing of configuration files. The ISP Buddy system will allow you to select the StarOS device and file type you would like to edit and then the system will login to the device and download the file specified (for instance, cbq.txt). The file's contents are then displayed in an editable textarea field where you can make the necessary changes (via your browser without having to use StarUtil or SSH) and then save, upload and activate the changes on the StarOS device. We would like to offer this same functionality for Mikrotik users but have not yet figured out how to accomplish it. Does Mikrotik allow you to write configuration settings to a plain text file or are all files saved as binary and not editable outside Mikrotik? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups Has anybody taken this a step further and set up some type of automated “ftp” or something more secure to download new updates? Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems HYPERLINK "http://www.wbisp.com"www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] support: HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups /system backup save name=MS1; /tool e-mail send to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" subject=([/system identity get name] . "Backup") server=10.10.10.10 file=MS1.backup Put these in a script and schedule the script as often as you want. I have all my routers email me on Thursday night. 10.10.10.10 needs to be your mail server address. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration HYPERLINK "http://www.nwwnet.net/"; \nwww.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:28:52 -0400 Subject: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups > Does Mikrotik have a method of backing up its settings > like is done with the StarOS StarUtil commands? If so, > what are the commands? I'm wanting to make sure we > automate this much needed task with HYPERLINK "http://www.ispbuddy.com/"; \nhttp://www.ISPBuddy.com > which will allow automated nightly backups to our remote > storage facility. > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > HYPERLINK "http://www.kywifi.com/"; \nhttp://www.KyWiFi.com > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > === > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > $14.99 Home Phone Service > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > - FREE Activation & Equipment > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > - Locally Owned & Operated > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web site update
I agree, you did an excellent job Matt! The tower image looks like the one in our logo now that you changed its colors, needless to say, I love the color update you made to it. ;-) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Cliff Leboeuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web site update Matt, I like the new site a lot! On 8/7/06 3:47 PM, "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Matt Larsen for your hard work. > http://www.wispa.org/ > > George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Current Bandwidth Prices?
How much is everyone paying for good quality bandwidth? We're in the market for 10Mbps - 20Mbps and we're seeing pricing around $100 a meg for the bandwidth only (we'll be providing our own transit via wireless). This is for Sprint bandwidth via fiber (upstream has two OC12 circuits and has a ton of excess bandwidth available). I'm thinking about asking them for a quote for 10Mbps/10Mbps burstable to 100Mbps/100Mbps. Anyone have a burstable plan like this with their upstream? How are high bandwidth burstable plans like this usually priced by a provider? One provider's quote difference between 10Mbps and 20Mbps was $400. Is this typical, do fiber prices really drop off like this once you purchase more than 10Mbps? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-FounderKyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"http://www.KyWiFi.comCall Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet$14.99 Home Phone Service$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV- No Phone Line Required for DSL- FREE Activation & Equipment- Affordable Upfront Pricing- Locally Owned & Operated- We Also Service Most Rural Areas=== -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Auto rate or Locked rate 802.11b
Hi Marshall, My personal advice is to let the radios negotiate the best rate. Just make sure they associate at the 11Mbps rate and you'll be good to go. Anything less and you're going to have un-needed stress. ;-) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Auto rate or Locked rate 802.11b All, What is the best practice when configuring 802.11b clients. Do you find that locking the client rate to something low (5.5M, 2M) works best, or is it best just to let the radios negotiate the best rate? Thanks marshall -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] lightning
We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts. If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation from their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No exceptions. As a result, approx. 95% of our subscribers purchase our EPP. The added revenue allows us to cover the cost of CPE that gets taken out by lightning and the associated service call fees we incur. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning If it's your equipment and the customer didn't damage it (hit it with a rock etc.) then it's your problem to deal with. The cheaper the gear, usually the easier it is to break :-). I've had much less trouble this year with cpe from Tranzeo than from any other brand I've used. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] lightning We had the lightning storm of the century here 2 days ago. It was an awesome spectacle to witness. It was a much more distressing spectacle to watch our network map begin to blink red all over the place. Which leads me to a couple of questions: How do you handle customer installations that get fried? We install and own the gear. We are taking the external ones on the chin. We took down one panel that has a big black hole right in the center. Another customer has a hole in his roof- our gear died along with the roof. What do you do if the customer AC takes a shot, and burns your equipment? Do they pay because it came in on their side or do you take the replacement and the truck roll on the chin because you own the equipment? We have multiple brands of products on the same towers. The tower that took a hit was populated with, among other things, some B-14s, proxim QB, and some Tranzeos. All units are grounded to the same structure/bussbar. The Tranzeos seem much more sensitive to lightning than some of the other products. Has anyone had any similar experiences with them? Thanks Chris -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] lightning
Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be interesting to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced by WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to lightning. We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an approved earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken any direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO, owning a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so prone to damage caused by lightning. BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates with the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips, tricks and wisdom. Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 - $20 per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection compare with installations where there is none? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Brent Hegerfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months. Knocked a backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1 week), another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's. I'm told the probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low. Let's hope. Brent Hegerfeld East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts. If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation from their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No exceptions. As a result, approx. 95% of our subscribers purchase our EPP. The added revenue allows us to cover the cost of CPE that gets taken out by lightning and the associated service call fees we incur. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning If it's your equipment and the customer didn't damage it (hit it with a rock etc.) then it's your problem to deal with. The cheaper the gear, usually the easier it is to break :-). I've had much less trouble this year with cpe from Tranzeo than from any other brand I've used. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] lightning We had the lightning storm of the century here 2 days ago. It was an awesome spectacle to witness. It was a much more distressing spectacle to watch our network map begin to blink red all over the place. Which leads me to a couple of questions: How do you handle customer installations that get fried? We install and own the gear. We are taking the external ones on the chin. We took down one panel that has a big black hole right in the center. Another customer has a hole in his roof- our gear died along with the roof. What do you do if the customer AC takes a shot, and burns your equipment? Do they pay because it came in on their side or do you take the replacement and the truck roll on the chin because you own the equipme
Re: [WISPA] lightning
Can you share some info on the $1.50 inductor you reference below? Do you then ground the inductor to the mounting arm which is then grounded to an earth ground? Please share if you don't mind, inquiring minds would LOVE to know. ;-) Also, where are the bulk of your subscribers located (city/state)? I would venture to say that WISP's out west have fewer lightning related failures than WISP's in the East or South. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Jenco Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning I lost 15% of my CPE's one year. It was a dry Summer (I theorize the earth was not conducting well), then we had a couple of bad storms. Using a $1.50 inductor on the Ethernet cable near the radios really seems to have helped a lot. Brad Hagstrom On 10/7/06, Jason Hensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, I've been fairly lucky. The only lightning losses I've had were > on my tower. I've got one CPE that may have been taken out by lightning, > but it came through the house and blew a LOT of other stuff as well. To > me, > to add $30 per install doesn't make sense when I've only lost 1 > (percentage-wise, less than 1% for me) in a little over a year. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:53 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning > > > > Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be > > interesting > > to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced by > > WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to > lightning. > > We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the > > outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an approved > > earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken any > > direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO, > owning > > a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so prone > to > > damage caused by lightning. > > > > BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates > with > > the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips, tricks > > and > > wisdom. > > > > Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE > > installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 - $20 > > per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection > > compare with installations where there is none? > > > > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > > http://www.KyWiFi.com > > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > > === > > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > > $14.99 Home Phone Service > > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > > - FREE Activation & Equipment > > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > > - Locally Owned & Operated > > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > > === > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Brent Hegerfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'WISPA General List'" > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning > > > > > > Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months. Knocked a > > backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1 > > week), > > another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's. I'm told the > > probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low. Let's hope. > > > > Brent Hegerfeld > > East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations
We pay $10 - $30 to a sub-contractor to do a site survey and we usually have 5 - 10 of them a week. This has been an expense we've absorbed but starting in the next few days, we will be passing this fee along to the person requesting the site survey. If their site survey is successful and they purchase our service, their site survey will be free. If their site survey is unsuccessful or if it is successful but they do not purchase our service within (3) business days following us notifying them that the site survey was successful, then their credit card will be billed a $29.99 site survey fee. We will be having them submit their credit card info at the time of their site survey request so we have it on file prior to their site survey. This will also streamline things because the subcontractor will no longer need to ask them for their credit card info on the day of their installation. How are other list members handling site survey related expenses? BTW, we keep a database of street addresses which show if its site survey was successful or not. This allows us to avoid site surveys in the same area from time to time depending on the terrain. While we're on the topic of site surveys, has anyone heard or seen of an affordable handheld device that can be attached to an antenna and then display the SSID and signal/noise readings? I know bvsystems.com has some similar devices but they are way over priced IMHO. I purchased an iPAQ and PCMCIA expansion sleeve but every Orinoco Gold card I have locks up in it after a few minutes so it is not what I would call reliable. I wonder if you can purchase a PCMCIA expansion sleeve for the Dell Axim PDA? I really think it would perform better than the iPAQ if this is possible. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations I've done all of our installations so things have been easy, but I'm moving toward contractor installs. As it has been, I have not done site surveys...I go out to install and if I don't get the connection I walk away and the customer doesn't owe us anything. So I'm out a little time and a slot on the schedule...big deal. With contractor installs, how do people handle this? Do we do site surveys prior to the installation? I know that there are owners out there that own remote systems so you must pay something for site surveys or pay something for unsuccessful installations??? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Rick Smith To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Outsourced installations right – but I hand them the EQ, name and number and let them schedule their installs. They pay me $10 back if I hear from a customer that they didn’t make an appointment, and they credit me the install if I get a complaint serious enough from the customer.. J R From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations We actually did that for a while. It works out well, except that a contractor must provide his own tools and manage his own time. In other words, I cannot promise that he will be at Mr Smith's house at 2:00p on Wednesday. He has to be the one to schedule installs. It gets real fuzzy there. pd Rick Smith wrote: the answer is hire a company to do installations for you. if your employee just happens to own that company, well, oh well… It’s all invoices. Pay them as normal, and you don’t need to worry about taxes, etc. Your employee (or sub’d company J…) does that on their own. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations Where the problems come in are, that paying someone peice rate does NOT NEGATE the requirement to pay overtime for Employees. Nor does it Negate the IRS's definition of what an EMployee is and a contractor is. You have to restrict employees to work less than 40 hours or prepair to pay time and a
[WISPA] Welding Cable For Grounding?
Anyone used a welding cable for a tower ground? We have ran across a really good deal on 2 and 4 guage welding cable and would like to use it for grounding of our upcoming sites in place of the 2 guage copper wire we've been buying from Lowe's. It is composed of many very fine copper strands which makes it very easy to bend. Will the small copper strands perform the same as thicker strands or solid copper wire? Anyone have experience with using it or know if it will perform the same as other 2 and 4 guage wire types? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
I can see both sides. Since we haven't implemented the new policy yet, we may just charge the $29.99 site survey fee if they decline service after a successful site survey. We only charge $99 for installation and our CPE is provided on a free-to-use basis as we are competing against one other WISP, cable and DSL. Out of 10 site surveys, only 3 or 4 are successful due to the rolling terrain in our coverage area and we have (17) broadcast sites! Now if we were using 900Mhz, we could probably double our site survey success rate but fewer people would be interested because of the cost of the 900Mhz CPE which we would have to pass along to them in order for it to be feasible. In a perfect world, prospects should expect to pay for an onsite site survey because there are costs involved (labor and gas). Too bad we don't live in a perfect world. Hopefully unlicensed 700Mhz will become available in our lifetime and we can avoid site surveys altogether. I wonder though if it will be less costly than 900Mhz gear when/if that time does come? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Justin Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) I would not be happy about the $29.95 fee. If you can get away with it go right ahead. I look at it the customer is betting $29.95 that they can get service. I would rather have it here if they can get service, and they don't then they are charged $29.95. If they can't get service why should they have to pay $29.95? That would be like going to buy a new car. You want a Blue one with a stick shift. The dealer can't get you one, but they charge you $29.95 for looking. I think the word will spread pretty quickly. Customers are a weird beast. I can see the coffee shop conversations now: Joe:"Yeah that company came out and did a site survey to see if they could get me wireless" Bob " How did that go?" Joe "The installer guy waived an antenna around and said he could not get me a signal" Bob "Too bad, so what now?" Joe "I don't know, but I got charged $29.95 for him coming out" Bob "What? They are supposed to come out next week. I don't want them charging me $29.95 if they can't hook me up." Just my .02 Justin -- Justin S. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing Web: http://www.mtin.net Web: http://www.jwilson.ws -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
I think those who decline our service following a successful site survey are just tire kickers. They almost always tell our subcontractor that they "will speak to the wife and get back to us" or they were merely "wanting to see if our service was available in their area". People of this stature waste our time and resources, they are the ones that we need to avoid from the get go in order to optimize our company's efficiency. I do not feel that we should punish ethical customers by charging an inflated installation fee to subsidize our site survey expenses incurred by the tire kickers. We've decided that we are going to require a signed site survey request form with payment authorization prior to the site survey being performed and those who decline service following a successful site survey WILL BE billed the applicable site survey fee. If they are serious about obtaining our service, they will find a fax machine or scanner to return the signed document to our company. Feel free to follow-up with me in a couple of months to see how this new policy is working for our WISP. BTW, the other WISP in our area is charging $75 - $150 for a site survey fee. The word on the street is that they are adding 4 - 5 new subscribers per day but I find this very hard to believe because we are only adding 4 - 5 per week but our coverage area is more limited than their's. They are also charging $300 - $500 in upfront installation/CPE fees compared to our $99 upfront fee. When their company was planning expansion into our area, my partner and I hosted a conference call with their two owners and they told us point blank, "people will pay us whatever we charge them because we are their only option." This is just the opposite of how my partner and I approach our WISP, we did not get into this business to get rich, we simply wanted to offer a better service (for less) to the communities we service. We're not the type of company who's strategy involves taking advantage of people but if someone wants something (a site survey for instance), they need to pay for it because it's the fair thing to do being that it does require time, labor and other expenses. For now, we're just going to enforce the site survey fee for those who are disrespectful of our resources (i.e. those who decline our service following a successful site survey). Time will tell. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) It seems more likely that Blair is disqualifying his prospects before spending money on a site survey. One of the best sales skills is the ability to DQ prospects early - it saves the sales guy and the company time and money. If the site survey for the prospect comes back positive, what are the objections? Are you creating a response for each objection? How are you presenting the site survey results? Is it an enthusiastic delivery like The Irrestible Offer or is it flat? "Wonderful! Right now you have a chance to get our broadband service. In just 2 days we will have you surfing the web on a safe, reliable and fast platform." - Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
Will 700Mhz not work like the local tv station broadcast? I mean, if someone can pick up a local tv station's broadcast via an antenna, they should be able to receive broadband via the same spectrum, right? Are you saying that 700Mhz is not much better than 900Mhz? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Chris Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:17 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) You are still going to need to do site surveys w/ 700. If you are in rolling terrain, the 700 is going to have the same problem with dirt as 900 c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) I can see both sides. Since we haven't implemented the new policy yet, we may just charge the $29.99 site survey fee if they decline service after a successful site survey. We only charge $99 for installation and our CPE is provided on a free-to-use basis as we are competing against one other WISP, cable and DSL. Out of 10 site surveys, only 3 or 4 are successful due to the rolling terrain in our coverage area and we have (17) broadcast sites! Now if we were using 900Mhz, we could probably double our site survey success rate but fewer people would be interested because of the cost of the 900Mhz CPE which we would have to pass along to them in order for it to be feasible. In a perfect world, prospects should expect to pay for an onsite site survey because there are costs involved (labor and gas). Too bad we don't live in a perfect world. Hopefully unlicensed 700Mhz will become available in our lifetime and we can avoid site surveys altogether. I wonder though if it will be less costly than 900Mhz gear when/if that time does come? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Justin Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) I would not be happy about the $29.95 fee. If you can get away with it go right ahead. I look at it the customer is betting $29.95 that they can get service. I would rather have it here if they can get service, and they don't then they are charged $29.95. If they can't get service why should they have to pay $29.95? That would be like going to buy a new car. You want a Blue one with a stick shift. The dealer can't get you one, but they charge you $29.95 for looking. I think the word will spread pretty quickly. Customers are a weird beast. I can see the coffee shop conversations now: Joe:"Yeah that company came out and did a site survey to see if they could get me wireless" Bob " How did that go?" Joe "The installer guy waived an antenna around and said he could not get me a signal" Bob "Too bad, so what now?" Joe "I don't know, but I got charged $29.95 for him coming out" Bob "What? They are supposed to come out next week. I don't want them charging me $29.95 if they can't hook me up." Just my .02 Justin -- Justin S. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing Web: http://www.mtin.net Web: http://www.jwilson.ws -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
If it deters a tire kicker from wasting our company's resources, then I will be very happy. I don't believe it will deter anyone who is seriously wanting our broadband service as they will not be charged a site survey fee unless they decline service following a successful site survey at their location. If I forget, will someone please remind me in a couple months so I can report back whether or not our new site survey policy is successful or not. Sure will be nice if it works like your puppy story. ;-) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) Its not that I don't understand or agree with your point of view, but I just question wether it will work based on unecessarily detering customers. Its hard enough getting someone willing to try wireless in the first place, and now you are saying that the odds of getting it aren't good enough to to risk your $29. If trying to get their business isn't worth $29 to you, They may not even bother to subscribe. On the flip side, if your business is like mine, and you focus on Business and sure things, the lost residential business may not be a bad thing, if it just isn;t financially viable to go after with money at risk. It also could end up working th opposite. You are establishing value for your time. Possibly preventing other from abusing/taking up your time in the future. And when you set a value, people recognize it as more valuable and want it more. It goes back to my puppy story. I put an add for free puppies in the paper, and nobody called. The next week I put an add Puppies only $25, and sold every one of them the first day the paper was out. I'm interested in seeing how it plays out for you over time, charging the survey fee. Let us know as the plan progresses. PS. This is also a factor of wether you are in a underserved or served area. There is more demand in an underserved area. In my urban market, everyone offers everything for free. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) >I think those who decline our service following a successful site > survey are just tire kickers. They almost always tell our subcontractor > that they "will speak to the wife and get back to us" or they were > merely "wanting to see if our service was available in their area". > People of this stature waste our time and resources, they are the ones > that we need to avoid from the get go in order to optimize our company's > efficiency. I do not feel that we should punish ethical customers by > charging an inflated installation fee to subsidize our site survey > expenses > incurred by the tire kickers. We've decided that we are going to require > a signed site survey request form with payment authorization prior to the > site survey being performed and those who decline service following a > successful site survey WILL BE billed the applicable site survey fee. If > they are serious about obtaining our service, they will find a fax machine > or scanner to return the signed document to our company. Feel free to > follow-up with me in a couple of months to see how this new policy is > working for our WISP. BTW, the other WISP in our area is charging > $75 - $150 for a site survey fee. The word on the street is that they are > adding 4 - 5 new subscribers per day but I find this very hard to believe > because we are only adding 4 - 5 per week but our coverage area is > more limited than their's. They are also charging $300 - $500 in upfront > installation/CPE fees compared to our $99 upfront fee. When their > company was planning expansion into our area, my partner and I hosted > a conference call with their two owners and they told us point blank, > "people will pay us whatever we charge them because we are their > only option." This is just the opposite of how my partner and I approach > our WISP, we did not get into this business to get rich, we simply wanted > to offer a better service (for less) to the co
[WISPA] OsBridge CPE
Anyone using the OsBridge 5GXi CPE in their network and care to share their comments on or off list? We are chomping at the bit to offer a 10Mbps/1Mbps service but we need an affordable 5Ghz CPE to make it a reality. With the OsBridge 5GXi model coming in at <$200 per unit, it has caught my eye. Does the OsBridge 5GXi play nice with StarOS and Mikrotik? How susceptible is it to static build-up and non-direct lightning strikes? What type of throughput are you seeing with it at 3 - 5 miles? The OsBridge 5GXt (http://www.osbridge.com/products5.php) and OsBridge 900XL (http://www.osbridge.com/products900.php) are also rather interesting but their pricing may be a show stopper. Anyone tried either of these models? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?
Is our company the only Nuvio Private Label Partner who has reported this to Nuvio or are there others? See their e-mail below... From: Mike Roberts To: KyWiFi LLC Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48 PM Subject: RE: October & November Sales Shannon, This is the first if have heard of this. Nuvio has not been experiencing any service issues, nor have we had any system wide problems. Do you have any specific examples? Have you, or your customers, contacted Nuvio technical support? Do you have any ticket numbers? Lets get in touch to find out what is going on. Best regards, Mike Roberts -Original Message- From: KyWiFi LLC To: Mike Roberts Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: October & November Sales Hi Mike, Any idea when Nuvio is going resolve the call routing and voice quality issues which have plagued the Nuvio service over the past couple weeks? Our subscribers are dropping like flies. The problem is not with our network as our subs are switching to other VoIP providers and their service is working flawlessly. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas ===. - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP tables twice a day. Or it could be they are experiencing outages. TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day). XO had a bad outage this week. Could be a billing issue. Could be lots of things - Peter C. Moses wrote: >AGAIN !!! > >Chuck Moses >HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION >16922 Airport Blvd # 17 >Mojave CA 93501 >661 824 3431 office >818 406 6818 cell > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Brad Belton >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM >To: wireless@wispa.org >Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? > >Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website? Phones are down too... > >Thanks, > >Brad -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate it and I'm sure others do too! Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj). TGIF. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a. Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client. While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it. What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do so much better. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing. I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the 5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP. We are fortunate in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both directions very nicely. I set up and AP 42 km from my first install. It is linked at 5.8 GHz with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios. I get -70 dB signals and it is solid. For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away. The signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss. This is with near perfect LOS. The other direction had a very large group of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and it was stable and usable. Lonnie On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate > it and I'm sure others do too! > > Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni > instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that > is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the > PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj). > > TGIF. > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > http://www.KyWiFi.com > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > === > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > $14.99 Home Phone Service > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > - FREE Activation & Equipment > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > - Locally Owned & Operated > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > === > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results > > > Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a. > Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client. > While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it. > What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From > about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up > and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up > always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a > subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell > or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any > luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two > locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to > the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the > way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak > out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I > needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do > so much better. > Superior Wireless > New Orleans,La. > www.superior1.com > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?
Same here, our customers' calls were being routed to an automated Qwest recording over the past few weeks. Not all calls, but something like 8 out of every 10 calls placed. Nuvio is going downhill, maybe they will turn things around and be honest with their partners. If not, I don't expect to see them in business for the longterm. We are already taking initiatives to migrate our VoIP subscribers to an in-house Asterisk server and I advise you and any others interested in selling VoIP to do the same. We need to have the highest amount of control over the services we sell consumers. When something goes south, I want to kick myself in the rear and fix the problem instead of being at the mercy of a third party vendor. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "C. Moses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? We had the same BS They had the nerve to tell us basically the same as your letter but in our case the actually disassociated numbers and business (when someone tried to call) were receiving "this number is no longer in service" OH THIS WENT OVER WELL let me tell ya And of course NUVIO recites the same rhetoric."we are not experiencing network issues" Humph ! Chuck Moses HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 16922 Airport Blvd # 17 Mojave CA 93501 661 824 3431 office 818 406 6818 cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? Is our company the only Nuvio Private Label Partner who has reported this to Nuvio or are there others? See their e-mail below... From: Mike Roberts To: KyWiFi LLC Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48 PM Subject: RE: October & November Sales Shannon, This is the first if have heard of this. Nuvio has not been experiencing any service issues, nor have we had any system wide problems. Do you have any specific examples? Have you, or your customers, contacted Nuvio technical support? Do you have any ticket numbers? Lets get in touch to find out what is going on. Best regards, Mike Roberts -Original Message- From: KyWiFi LLC To: Mike Roberts Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: October & November Sales Hi Mike, Any idea when Nuvio is going resolve the call routing and voice quality issues which have plagued the Nuvio service over the past couple weeks? Our subscribers are dropping like flies. The problem is not with our network as our subs are switching to other VoIP providers and their service is working flawlessly. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas ===. - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP tables twice a day. Or it could be they are experiencing outages. TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day). XO had a bad outage this week. Could be a billing issue. Could be lots of things - Peter C. Moses wrote: >AGAIN !!! > >Chuck Moses >HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION >16922 Airport Blvd # 17 >Mojave CA 93501 >661 824 3431 office >818 406 6818 cell > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Brad Belton >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM >To: wireless@wispa.org >Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? > >Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website? Phones are down too... > >Thanks, > >Brad -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/m
Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
It's okay to mention StarOS Lonnie, the more details the better IMO. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results Yes that is with WAR boards and StarV3, but the point was more the range that can be attained and the antenna used (which is why I did not even mention StarOS). Lonnie On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing. > > I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the > 5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below? > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > http://www.KyWiFi.com > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > === > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > $14.99 Home Phone Service > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > - FREE Activation & Equipment > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > - Locally Owned & Operated > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > === > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results > > > We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP. We are fortunate > in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both > directions very nicely. > > I set up and AP 42 km from my first install. It is linked at 5.8 GHz > with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios. I get -70 dB signals and it is > solid. For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site > survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away. The > signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss. This > is with near perfect LOS. The other direction had a very large group > of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and > it was stable and usable. > > Lonnie > > On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate > > it and I'm sure others do too! > > > > Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni > > instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that > > is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the > > PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj). > > > > TGIF. > > > > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > > http://www.KyWiFi.com > > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > > === > > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > > $14.99 Home Phone Service > > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > > - FREE Activation & Equipment > > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > > - Locally Owned & Operated > > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > > === > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results > > > > > > Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a. > > Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client. > > While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it. > > What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From > > about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up > > and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up > > always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a > > subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell > > or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any > > luck with 2.4.
Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap. I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually really good considering the market at this time. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition Out of curiosity -- how is 1.4x annual revenue considered "cheap" Keep in mind...this is $$$ CASH $$$, not stock -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network WithDataFloAcquisition Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a firesale.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With DataFloAcquisition > Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press > release it > appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap. > > -Matt > > Peter R. wrote: >> Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets >> of >> DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, >> adding a sixth market to its coverage area. >> >> Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for >> approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo >> expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping >> with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA >> accretive. The transaction is expected to close later this month >> subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals. >> >> Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, >> San >> Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary >> NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year. >> >> Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude >> Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning >> and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in >> response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to >> incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, >> the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network >> strategy. >> >> Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity >> services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on >> licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also >> enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals >> from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables >> the company to serve clientele with temporary needs. >> >> Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses >> via a >> direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad >> to balance its predominantly wholesale focus. >> > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/474 - Release Date: > 10/13/2006 > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
Yes, our WISP is for sale and yes, we would consider selling out for 1.4x annual revenue. This amount would basically just cover our investment into the company so yes, it would be a "giveaway" for the most part. If anyone is interested, contact me off list for a NDA. The only reason we are wanting to sell is because my partner and I each own other businesses and all of them are doing very well. My partner is not able to devote more than a few hours a month to our WISP so I am the one left wearing all of the hats and spending the time running it. It's just not an equal partnership based on the money we each invested to start it so this is why we would like to sell it. This is the first and last partnership I will ever be involved with. If I can't do it myself or pay someone to do it for me then it is not a good fit IMO. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "rwf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition I guess... If you want to give your company away. Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered? I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition To us on the "inside" (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds cheap but when you are on the "outside" it is not so cheap. I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking for <1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually really good considering the market at this time. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue
We are experiencing a recurring problem with one of the WRAP boards running StarOS with CM-9 cards in our network. The problem initially started out with the board locking up every 3 - 4 days like clockwork. The problem was resolved by an onsite reboot because I was unable to login to the board and it was unresponsive after it locked up. After several onsite visits over the past month and after replacing the power supply, poe injector and Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the Cat5, I decided that it was a bad WRAP board so I replaced it with a new one. To be on the safe side, I re-configured the board manually without uploading the server.dat backup file. The board worked fine for a week and then the clients on wpci1 lost their connection. I was able to login to the board and reboot it this time but the reboot did not resolve the issue. None of the clients on this CM-9 were able to re-associate to it following the reboot. The issue was resolved by replacing that particular CM-9 card with a new one. Well, a week later, it is doing the same exact thing again. The other CM-9 is working properly as it is serving a BH link to one of our other sites. The signal on it is normal and clients are passing traffic through it (wpci2) normally. Has anyone experienced this type of problem in their own network? At this point, I am thinking we received a bad batch of CM-9 cards or there is a problem with the Cat5. Being that it is happening with the same card slot (wpci1) I honestly do not feel it is a Cat5 related issue so I'm leaning more towards it being a bad batch of CM-9 cards or defective WRAP board. Any tips on further troubleshooting this issue? What are the odds of it being a problem with the Cat5 cable? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service Request for Slocomb, AL
Can anyone service the following area: County Road 30 Slocomb, AL 36375 Please reply off list if you can. This is for a residential account without access to DSL and cable broadband. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
We're running Plesk with SpamAssassin for our users' mail. Do you know if the OCR plugin you reference below will work under the Plesk software? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Andrew Niemantsverdriet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Marlon- > > We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has > been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable > text. > I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email > accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. > > How does postini filter the graphical spam? > > Ralph > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam > > our postini is doing a pretty good job. > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Comcast Tech Video
http://tinyurl.com/y8hdpx Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Faxes?
http://www.MaxEmail.com I have been a customer of their's for years and have no complaints with their services or support. You can send and receive faxes using their web-based system although I only use it for receiving faxes which their system auto-converts to a PDF file and sends it to my e-mail address as a file attachment. To my knowledge, they are also the lowest priced provider for this type of service. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] Free Faxes? What is the best way to fax over broadband? And can it be done (send/receive) for free? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
So 18vdc *should not* damage a 12vdc radio? Any idea on how long an 18vdc DeWalt battery pack will power a 12vdc radio? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Eric Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys We use the 18V DeWalt Flashlights and take the head off. Put a Cat5 plug on it where the flashlight head was, and you can inject power into the devices. Be sure to use a volt meter because on the one I had, Red was negative, and Black was positive. If you make a Cisco Reverse PoE cable, you can power the Motorola gear too. We used the DeWalt gear because we use the drills, and they all take the same battery. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:30 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
I would say you're right Dylan so I am posting this reply on-list so everyone knows the outcome of our newest company policy regarding site surveys. (see below) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Dylan Oliver To: KyWiFi LLC Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) Thanks for the quick reply! I'll bet others on the list would like to know.. On 12/13/06, KyWiFi LLC wrote: > > Hi Dylan, > > It's working out great, we have made it standard policy. > We haven't had to charge anyone's credit card because > they all have purchased our service following a successful > site survey at their premises. > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > http://www.KyWiFi.com > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > === > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > $14.99 Home Phone Service > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > - FREE Activation & Equipment > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > - Locally Owned & Operated > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > === > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) > > > How's your new policy for site surveys working out? > > On 10/10/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If it deters a tire kicker from wasting our company's resources, > > then I will be very happy. I don't believe it will deter anyone > > who is seriously wanting our broadband service as they will > > not be charged a site survey fee unless they decline service > > following a successful site survey at their location. > > > > If I forget, will someone please remind me in a couple months > > so I can report back whether or not our new site survey policy > > is successful or not. Sure will be nice if it works like your puppy > > story. ;-) > > > > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > > http://www.KyWiFi.com > > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > > === > > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet > > $14.99 Home Phone Service > > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV > > - No Phone Line Required for DSL > > - FREE Activation & Equipment > > - Affordable Upfront Pricing > > - Locally Owned & Operated > > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas > > === > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) > > > > > > Its not that I don't understand or agree with your point of view, but I > > just > > question wether it will work based on unecessarily detering customers. > Its > > hard enough getting someone willing to try wireless in the first place, > > and > > now you are saying that the odds of getting it aren't good enough to to > > risk > > your $29. If trying to get their business isn't worth $29 to you, They > > may > > not even bother to subscribe. > > > > On the flip side, if your business is like mine, and you focus on > Business > > and sure things, the lost residential business may not be a bad thing, > if > > it > > just isn;t financially viable to go after with money at risk. > > > > It also could end up working th opposite. You are establishing value for > > your time. Possibly preventing other from abusing/taking up your time in > > the > > future. And when you set a value, people recognize it as more valuable > and > > want it more. > > > > It goes back to my puppy story. I put an add for free puppies in the > > paper, > > and nobody called. The next week I put an add Puppi
Re: [WISPA] training
Hey Dee, There will be wireless training manuals available for download and customization on http://www.ispbuddy.com They will be available in the "Tools" section of the system. Go to the URL above and signup for the notification list. There are already several hundred ISP's and Satellite TV businesses registered and awaiting system details. Plus, once you're registered, you can send in feature requests which will be considered for development and addition to the system. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] training I really would like to see a "simple wireless installation training manual". The local folks wnat $7K to produce one :-( -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com, WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:26:18 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] training > Hi, > > Does anyone have a simple "wireless installation" training manual > already put together? We are finally to the point we need to have > something for the new hires, but I want to see if anyone has something > they want to share? > > Travis > Microserv > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] building out
Can someone check this list, I commented on the post below twice yesterday and they have still not yet been delivered by the listserv. Happy Holidays to my fellow WISP's! Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] building out Profile your best clients. Pick out who you want your clients to be. Research them. Be in front of them. Sell them. Here's one thing to discuss -- "selling" vs "order taking" The conundrum of sales is that everyone LOVES to buy, but HATES being sold to When one goes in the mentality to try to "sell something" -- more often than not, one ends up more like the "greasy car salesperson" that leaves a bad taste in someone's mouth -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] building out Dylan Oliver wrote: > Hi Charles, > > Any tips on learning to sell? What's helped you the most? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wanted: Antennas, PoE Injectors, RJ45 Feedthru Adapters
Just checking to see if any of my fellow list members have any of the following items in inventory you would like to sell? QTY Needed Item 20 PacWireless 16dBi Panel PA24-16 20 PacWireless 24dBi Grid DC24HDPF1PF 50 PoE Injector EBU-101-01 100RJ45 Feedthru Adapter RJ45-FT Hit me off-list ASAP, I have to place an order today for the above items. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The WISP that walked away
Do what Scriv says, it is the *safest* thing to do at this phase. How many subs will signup and pay you in this "small area"? I am sure they wouldn't mind a bit to pre-pay 2 - 3 months plus installation provided that you have been in business for a while and have a good repuation in your area. This upfront cash flow would then *hopefully* take care of the entire investment on your part to service this "small area". Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas - We Are Beta Testing ISP Buddy. . . http://www.ispbuddy.com - - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] The WISP that walked away Hire an attorney, get copies of what customers signed from an existing customer of his. Give it to the attorney along with the brief letter you got from the guy saying he was calling it quits. I see no need to let the CPE go to waste if you can make it work provided there is no legal / civil reason to avoid it. Worst case I see is you use the existing CPE for a while and then replace it if someone comes calling to claim it later. This is strictly my opinion though. Seek legal counsel no matter what you do. Best $100 you'll spend. Scriv Mike Ireton wrote: > An operator in my local area, covering a small area I would > nevertheless like to have, recently just upped and walked away from > his operation, leaving all cpe in place and some very confused > customers who were told to go get cable or dsl. He was very short with > me in email and indicated that the equipment was leased and that he > had had enough with trying to scratch out something more than an > avarage living and is glad to be rid of it and out of the business, > and no further communication will be possible, end of story. > > Ethics question: Do I swoop in with my own backhaul and reactivate the > system using the existing cpe units (mostly motorola, right up our > alley), or do we build a new system from scratch and avoid these now > defunct cpe's like the plauge? > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Just Testing...
The reply I sent at 10:36am EST has not made it to the list yet so I'm testing the list to see if there is a problem with it. Please disregard this e-mail. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas - We Are Beta Testing ISP Buddy. . . http://www.ispbuddy.com - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Just Testing...
Something is wrong with the WISPA list, it is not delivering my replies. It delivered the one below and may deliver this one but I replied to an earlier post regarding EL at 10:36am EST today and it has still not delivered it to the list as of right now. I re-sent the reply again at 12:25pm EST and it has not been delivered to the list either. Who's in charge of the WISPA list? Can someone look into this to see what's going on with it? Thank you. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA List" Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] Just Testing... The reply I sent at 10:36am EST has not made it to the list yet so I'm testing the list to see if there is a problem with it. Please disregard this e-mail. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas - We Are Beta Testing ISP Buddy. . . http://www.ispbuddy.com - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?
The speed test below is way off for me. It is no where close to being accurate. Is there a problem with it or is the server where it's hosted overloaded right now? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server? A week late but I didn't see anyone mention: http://www.brandonchecketts.com/open-source-speedtest/ It has both up and download speed test. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Bo Hamilton wrote: > Hello Everyone! Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. > Can > someone on the list help me? > > Thanks in advance! > > Bo Hamilton > > NCOWireless.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA Compliance - Will you be ready by May 14th?
Me too, time for someone to contact their ISP and have them shut down for spamming. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA Compliance - Will you be ready by May 14th? I got spammed too. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Does anyone know about these guys? Can anyone take the time to touch base with them and gather useful data? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Intelleq Communications To: Undisclosed-Recipient: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: CALEA Compliance - Will you be ready by May 14th? ATTN: Wireless Internet Service Provider, What are your plans for becoming CALEA compliant by May 14, 2007? Are you looking for a solution like all other Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISPs) that will minimize your costs? If so, allow us to introduce you to Intelleq Communications. Our service, Capture-CALEA Solutions, is a complete lawful intercept solution, which provides state-of-the-art intercept capability for the provisioning, access, delivery and recording of authorized communications. We believe our solution and pricing flexibility will meet your needs. Therefore, we have enclosed a data sheet that will provide you with a brief overview of who we are and why your company might benefit from exploring how Intelleq can meet or exceed your CALEA needs. Key features of our service: . Reduce operations expenses, including staffing needs . Minimize capital expenditures for current and future network services . Minimize LEA-related network interference . Alleviates risk of stranded investment in rapidly changing network infrastructure . Most cost-effective way to meet LEA needs . Faster time to market, easier entrance to new markets, generates compliance quickly . Allows carriers to focus on their "core business" Intelleq Communications welcomes the opportunity to provide you with additional information on our industry- leading, lawful intercept solution, Capture. All we need is a mutual Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA), so we can provide you with a comprehensive overview of our service, along with a proposal for your consideration. Once the NDA is in place, we would like to schedule a web meeting so you can communicate to us your specific requirements, and we in turn can present our unique solutions. We are confident Intelleq can help your organization become CALEA compliant in a very cost-effective and timely manner. The clock is ticking, with less than 115 days left to be compliant, so call us today at 1-866-50-CALEA to learn more about our lawful intercept solution. Best regards, Jeff Cato V.P. Sales & Marketing 1-866-50-CALEA www.intelleq.net/calea -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 6:47 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management
WOW, $450 per month for a T-1 in a rural area is unheard of! This is great for you Blair, count yourself VERY lucky. It took 6+ months of negotiations between myself and AT&T just to get T-1's for $605 per month. We have located a full DS3 approx. 15 miles away from here for $1,950 per month so we are working diligently on acquiring it. The problem is that there is a tower we need to use right onsite where this AT&T POP is but AT&T knows nothing about it when I speak with their agents. The tower is like 30' away from the backside of their POP and there are several wires and heliax running from the POP to the tower so you would think they would know who owns it if they don't. Well, I went over there and took some pictures last week and the sign on the chainlink fence shows Cingular as the owner. What a joke... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas - We are beta testing ISP Buddy!! http://www.ispbuddy.com - - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management We sell mainly to residential users and to some small businesses. We are quite rural, and my cost for a T-1 is $450 per month. My pending fiber hookup is $1100 per month for 5Mbit. A bit ago, a business customer's new IT consultant complained that the 256Kbit committed rate for $60 a month was over priced. He demanded a 1Mbit committed rate and no price change. I explained this was not possible. He was quite nasty and told me he was recommending that the customer find a new ISP. I, fed up with his big city attitude, told him to go right ahead. He said to come pick up the gear on this Friday. Although, I might have lost my temper a bit and used some words that the FCC doesn't permit on the phone.. After he was quoted $600 per month for a T1, (and $9500 install), and a 3 month lead time, he called me back... He decided that my offer of 1Mbit committed rate (6am-6pm, Mon-Fri) and a 256Kbit committed rate at other times) for $250 a month was a damn good deal.. The point of this, is that, for many customers, pricing and bandwidth expectations are being driven by the cheap bandwidth in the large cites Out here in the real world, it don't work that way. The other point is, that with a good mix of residential and business customers, and a little creative thinking, one can match their usage patterns to minimize ones peak bandwidth requirements while still providing the 'fast, snappy feel' that the users prefer Just my $.02 J. Vogel wrote: >I would suspect that the customer (as is the case in much of the world, >not necessarily in the limited >world you may operate in) does not want to, or in many case could not >pay for such a pipe. In many >areas of the US, especially rural, bandwidth is extremely expensive. >Customers do not want to pay >close to $1k / month for their residential connection to the internet, >yet the customer would like to >access the internet at speed approaching 1.5 mbps (or even faster) >whenever they can. In such a case >it makes sense, is good business practice, and not at all unethical to >sell customers shared bandwidth. > >In cases such as these, the question posed by the OP is a valid >question, and deserves an answer >other than one which implies that they may be doing something they >should not be. The world is a big >place. It is good to get out and see parts of it you may not have seen >lately. > >John > >Matt Liotta wrote: > > >>Have you thought about selling the customer a pipe that works for any >>and all traffic at the speed the customer signed up for as opposed to >>deciding for the customer? >> >>-Matt >> >> >> >> > > > -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: Advanced Bandwidth Management
Here are the plans I am working to make available in 2007 for our own subscribers: 5 Mbps / 1 Mbps for $59.99 10 Mbps / 2 Mbps for $69.99 15 Mbps / 3 Mbps for $79.99 20 Mbps / 4 Mbps for $89.99 Just because you give someone faster speeds, don't assume they will consume more bandwidth. Our subs with faster speeds use 1/2 as much total bandwidth in any given month as our subs on the slower speed plans offered by our company. It is best to get them on and off your network as fast as you can IMO. If they need something, make it where they can get that something quickly and you'll have a very happy subscriber for life! If you don't someone else will... and when they do, don't blame them, blame yourself for not doing it first. What's hard about competing? Competition around here is beneficial because we beat them hands down in the areas of service and support. We ask our customers for their name when they call, instead of their account #, maybe this has something to do with it? ;-) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas - Proud Beta Testers Of ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com - - Original Message - From: "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings,By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: Advanced Bandwidth Management But, the model will work if you bill by the bytes If Joe is paying $40 per month for 6 Gig and gets throttled at 6 Gig, then he has a disincentive for keeping going. If he is paying $40 for unlimited access, he has no reason to slow down. Charter cable is doing 10 meg down/1 meg up in some markets for like $99 per month, how can you compete with that? John >-Original Message- >From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 07:59 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: >Advanced >Bandwidth Management > >No... I don't think that model works... because Joe Surfer sees how fast >this last movie downloaded and decides to grab 3 more while he's at it... >The model of "the customer will use what they are going to use and then >get off" is not true... imagine if Joe Surfer figures out he can >download the movies AND still surf, check email, etc. at the same time? >Then he can just leave it downloading 24x7. :( > >Travis >Microserv > >RickG wrote: >> Sorry guys for hijacking the thread but this hit a chord... >> >> I've sold bandwidth in all sorts of ways but the most prevalent is by >> speed which is the way am currently doing it. My question is this: >> What if you played the "cable game" and just sell all you can eat? >> Would that not free up your network more quickly for everybody else? >> Example: Joe Surfer downloads movies on demand but is too cheap to buy >> your highest speed offering. So, he buys your slowest speed and ties >> up your network much longer. Just looking for some opinions here ;) >> >> Thanks! >> RickG >> >> On 1/24/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> OR, we could stop playing the Cable Co. and Telco "games" with their "up >>> to 3meg" and "up to 7meg" connections for $34.95 and just start selling >>> what they get. >>> >>> We started selling 512k, 1meg, 1.5meg and 2meg connections (up and down, >>> guaranteed speed 24x7) about 3 years ago. It was the best thing we ever >>> did... people get what they pay for, and when they need more, they buy >>> more. No games, no "burstable" speeds, etc. >>> >>> Make your customers pay for what they need and use. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Blair Davis wrote: >>> > We sell mainly to residential users and to some small businesses. >>> > >>> > We are quite rural, and my cost for a T-1 is $450 per month. My >>> > pending fiber hookup is $1100 per month for 5Mbit. >>> > >>> > A bit ago, a business customer's new IT consultant complained that the >>> > 256Kbit committed rate for $60 a month was over priced. He dema
Re: [WISPA] Welcome Kelly Shaw of Pure Internet!
Kelly, please drop me an e-mail sometime. I would enjoy picking your brain a little bit about the Tobacco Settlement funds... I have the same exact intentions with our WISP but government does not want to talk to us wireless guys so it seems. Just curious if you've found a way inside. ;-) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] Welcome Kelly Shaw of Pure Internet! I would like to take this opportunity to introduce all of you to Kelly Shaw of Pure Internet in Southern Virginia. Kelly is a new Principle Member of WISPA. There has been much activity in new memberships in WISPA lately and I want to thank all of you including Kelly. Here is a little background on Kelly Shaw and Pure Internet: I've been in the ISP business since 1995 when I started a small local ISP called Halifax.Com, which is now owned by a regional CLEC called nTelos. After working for them for awhile, I decided that I liked working for myself more (which I am still trying to figure out what ever gave me that idea :-) . In 2002, I left nTelos to start Pure Internet. Almost immediately, we started offering Wireless Service with the Nokia Rooftop product. Aside from the high costs ($700+) of the CPE, these were great little radios. In fact, I still have two Nokia Rooftop POPs up and operational with very little maintenance required. We now serve three rural counties in Southern Virginia with wireless service. We use Trango, WaveRider and even Tranzeo products. My wireless backhaul to various POPs exceeds 100+ miles in total. I have several POPs that are 20+ miles from each other being connected via wireless. In the gently rolling hills of Virginia, this is no easy task when only using water towers. Our state was part of the Tobacco Settlement with the tobacco companies. As such, our state receives millions of dollars per year from the tobacco companies. My state, Virginia, has chosen to use part of this money to build a regional (23 Counties) fiber-optic network that terminates in mostly-empty Industrial Parks with the promise of Economic Development. In 2002, when we first started Pure Internet, I spoke in front of the Tobacco Commission hoping to persuade them to spend less money on fiber and more money on a hybrid approach of fiber, wireless and other technologies. I am still speaking in front of the Commission about the problems of Last Mile and how expensive tower space on the big boy's towers can be. I am also the President of the local Technology Council. I am trying to push our area as being a resource for technology and a great place to locate a technology business. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty. We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link: http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers, vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should question that, I know I do. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now? The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a "N" router, and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Ross Cornett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routers Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Hi, Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in business? Travis Microserv KyWiFi LLC wrote: > We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm > proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY > pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of > around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them > in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty. > We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link: > http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html > > I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers, > vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is > only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should > question that, I know I do. > > > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" > http://www.KyWiFi.com > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > === > Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! > http://www.ispbuddy.com > === > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers > > > Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. > > However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. > Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to > eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you > go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost > to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of > all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home > Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor > their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No > questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin > also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see > private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can > opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only > reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our > local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which > prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot > it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was > identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now? > > The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a "N" router, > and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ross Cornett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Routers > > > Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of > router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and > netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone > have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of > replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. > Your feedback is very welcome. > > > Ross Cornett > VP > 217 342 6201 ex 7 > HofNet Communications, Inc. > www.HofNet-Communications.com > > HofNet-Communications.com > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Belkin has a lifetime warranty. I am sure there are others, if not, there should be. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === We Are Beta Testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: >Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. >If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If >their product is junk, then... > > >Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder >KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky >"Your Hometown Broadband Provider" >http://www.KyWiFi.com >Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Windows Vista Networking Tutorial
Anyone have one of these or mind to share with me how someone goes about configuring a Windows Vista PC to use a static IP and specified DNS servers? I figured it out after a few minutes while at a customer's residence the other day but now we have a different customer who is demanding we walk them through it over the phone. I can walk them through it in Windows XP with my eyes shut but the guys at Microsoft just had to change things up with their release of Vista... errr!! Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Proud Beta Tester of ISP Buddy: http://www.ispbuddy.com === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress
Make it easy on yourself and go with their 1" width, we go through it by the cases, the more you buy from them, the deeper their discounts. Shannon D. Denniston http://www.ispbuddy.com WISP Management System - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress There are a lot of places that sell it... I buy it from Electrocomm in the large rolls. I think it's 1/2" wide by 12ft long for $7 each... we use about 6 inches per seal... so that's 24 seals for roughly $.30 each. Here is the actual website: http://www.coaxseal.com They have a list of distributors, etc. on that page. Travis Microserv Mario Pommier wrote: > Where do you get it? > > Mario > > Blair Davis wrote: >> Same here. Coax Seal is GREAT!!! >> >> >> >> Travis Johnson wrote: >>> We started using Coax-Seal about two years ago and have never had a >>> problem since. It's moldable so you wrap the connector and then form >>> it around the connections. Quick, easy and cheap. Even on >>> mountaintops at 9000ft elevation with 60mph winds and freezing >>> rain/ice we have never had a problem. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> John Scrivner wrote: I would like a bit of feedback from those of you who have been installing outdoor antennas for a while. I have a problem that I would like to see fixed. It seems that after every long rain we see problems with the occasional connection outside at the antenna getting water into it. We use the Scotch seal mastic tape to seal the connections. The guys do not like having to climb and they work hard to try to make sure we do not get these problems and yet they come back. I would like to hear what you veterans out there are doing to make sure the water stays out. Thanks, Scriv >> > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Farewell Everyone
Hello Everyone, Well the time has come, I am no longer a WISP owner as my partner and I have sold our company to Rick Gunderson of Compulinx Inc. (d.b.a. Palm Beach Broadband). Rick is a very fine fellow and after spending a large amount of time with him, someone we feel comfortable with acquiring our WISP. We have gone to great lengths to find the perfect fit and we feel we have found it with Rick Gunderson of Compulinx Inc. He has a great deal to offer the WISP community and is very passionate about the wireless industry. So where do I go from here you might ask? Well, let me see... I own a portfolio of online properties, a thriving real estate rental business and I recently diversified into the music industry as co-owner of Gateway Music Festival LLC (http://www.gatewaymusicfestival.com) If you would like to stay in touch with me (I am unsubscribing from this list tonight), you may do so by subscribing to my personal newsletter via the opt-in form located at: http://www.shannondenniston.com I am anxious to continue development of http://www.ispbuddy.com which will offer numerous amenities, not found elsewhere, to ISP's of all sizes. If you are spending more than an hour or two per day managing your ISP then you need an ISP Buddy! You can go to http://www.ispbuddy.com to subscribe to the launch notification list if "automating your ISP" is of interest to you. Take care everyone, I have learned a lot over the past few years as an ISP and I attribute a large amount of my ISP success to the knowledge I learned from this list and the many friendships I have made along the way. This is one of the greatest WISP lists in the world and I am grateful for finding it so early on in my ISP venture. I wish you all success! Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, President Denniston Enterprises, Inc. http://www.DennistonInc.com 859.498.4729 ___ "To us, everyday is a dot com day!" http://www.DennistonInc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
