they lose those features with their
> conversion to OFDM?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General
l working. On the few with problems
> the
> > call center folks diagnose and fix the problem remotely. Only if the
> wind
> > has caused a misalignment do we have to do a truck roll. I have yet to
> > see
> > any material difference or benefit to using Trang
PA General List"
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>I had the same question. The main difference is that we know before the
> roll in most cases the frequency and color code and if that ap is blocked
> by
> trees we generally have s
eneral List'"
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:14 AM
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> Tom,
>
> Can you please help me understand how that procedure is any different then
> Canopy except the software selectable polarity? My only experience with
> Trango SU's
Also a small channel width ensures you have a better receive sensitivity.
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It needs a small channel
Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:19 AM
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Cc: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Travis,
>
> Im a little late responding to this thread, but I will put my
ot the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all
copies.
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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
I don't think this is entirel
up temporarilly interfering with someone before you can see if jsut the
>> single channel does interfer.
>>
>> MAnufacturers ahve come a long way, but they still need improved MACs that
>> allow them to offer the Basic Core management features. I'm not sure it is
>> poss
. But I can
show the converse.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:14 AM
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> Tom,
>
> Can you please help me unders
orked with that did
have to deal with them)
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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Many people have misse
ednesday, November 26, 2008 2:08 AM
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> Truck roll: $50
> MikroTik CPE: $200
> Trango SU: $786 (as of Nov 26 2008 2AM)
> Repairing your Trango link without having to truck roll: *three times* the
> price of MikroTik and slow truck roll (no, not pricele
; Sure, we are all migrating to higher capacity gear options where we can
>> but its not feasible or necessary everywhere.
>>
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message
s
> possible today with standard OEM/OFDM products, because if it was, it would
> have been done already.
>
> The closest thing to accomplsihing it, is Canopy.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
&
om DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:51 PM
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>I must be using a
s not feasible or necessary everywhere.
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Travis Johnson
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:59 PM
> Subje
m: Travis Johnson
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:59 PM
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Josh,
I think this was the point. The Trango 5800 series (the 5830 radio) was the
top of the line product when it first came out (2001 or 2002 I think). There
was no
channel sizes).
Travis
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
The comment was "twice" the bandwidth for 1/3rd the cost.
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The comment was "twice" the bandwidth for 1/3rd the cost.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:10 PM
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> That'
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I didn't say Trango... ;)
Mikrotik AP's can be built for $400 including your choice of antenna
(omni, sector, etc.). Tha
ginal Message-
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:04:52
To: WISPA General List
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Yeah, I have had to change my mind on Motorola recently. They no longer
seem to be pushing for licensed at every turn.
No one
A General List'"
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> I've always found the argument that Canopy is a poor steward of the
> spectrum
> interesting...
>
> Canopy allows channel reuse with GPS sync. Canopy is also more likel
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> Doesn't the GPS sync only work if you have the exact same settings as the
> other systems?
>
> Which part is $70/sub?
>
> Is that 20.2 Mbps the new seri
Canopy 100 and 200 started at those prices too.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:51 AM
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> never mind. The 400 series sounds great
Broadband Corp.
> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:08 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISP
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: WISPA General L
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> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:08 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> We don't use Canopy just because my competitors are using it. And really,
> any more, the cust
b?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Travis Johnson
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> We don't use Canopy just because my competitors are using it. And
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>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>
>
> Is the 400 series available? And where?
>
&
, November 25, 2008 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
Is the 400 series available? And where?
3-dB Networks wrote:
I've always found the argument that Canopy is a poor steward of
the spectrum
interesting...
Canopy allows channel
Band. Try that with any other
system.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
On Mon, 24 Nov 200
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
Chuck,
We don't use Canopy just because my competitors are using it. And really,
any more, the customer doesn't care HOW the bandwidth gets delivered. So why
not use a product that can deliver twice the bandwidth for 1/3 the price? ;)
Travis
rks
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Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wil
PureWave
Aperto
Vecima
Three off the top of my head.
-d
On 11/24/08 10:32 PM, "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value" decision. If
> there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could support 1000 subscribers,
> I would
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will find more than
>a hundred WISPs, many of them very small operations from 100-1000
>subscribers that are 100% canopy. And generally speaking they are
>kicking butt and taking names in their markets.
OK, ouch, not to get OT here, but have you looked at Samsung? Have you looked
at the consumer ratings between the two? Only thing Sony got over them was in
the highest end model's, and again this is like buying Alvarion or Canopy to
UBQT as far as price is concerned.
I may be blind, but I spent
A lot of folks have a philisophical problem adopting a product that seems to
have been designed to cause interference to other equipment trying to share the
same band.
Tom S.
I don't understand human psychology well enough to even begin to explain why
this is such a polarizing topic. Co
l.com
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From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:17 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
> The very best reason to use canopy is because the competitors are using
> it. It can peacefu
give my customers 20.2 Mbps (including guaranteed 7 mS
latency with 130 subs on an AP?) for $70/sub?
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From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
Chuck,
We don't use C
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From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:45 PM
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:
I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it b
age -
From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:
>
>>I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a
Butch,
As much as I like Mikrotik (I have been using it for ptp backhauls for
over 4 years now) and recently ptmp for customers, the ptmp is not on
the same level as Canopy or Trango. Having a hardware based scheduler
is something that just can not be done in software. The latest
improvement d
Josh,
I think this was the point. The Trango 5800 series (the 5830 radio) was
the top of the line product when it first came out (2001 or 2002 I
think). There was nothing else on the market (including Canopy) when
Trango first started shipping this product. However, nothing has been
done with
t; From: Travis Johnson
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:32 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>
>
> I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value" decision.
> If there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps a
I must be using a different product line then everyone else here - the
Trango Access 5800 has left quite a bit to be desired - short range and at
most 7mbps throughput. Mikrotik (costing less new then Trango used) easily
outperforms in wireless distance, throughput and (my favorite) capability.
I
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:
>I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value"
>decision. If there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could
>support 1000 subscribers, I would be willing to pay $10,000+ for it
>today. There is a real "gap" in the products tha
the price.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value" decision. If
t
Where do you rate Ubiquity Nanostations or the Bullet?
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From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value"
I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value"
decision. If there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could
support 1000 subscribers, I would be willing to pay $10,000+ for it
today. There is a real "gap" in the products that are available on the
market:
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