Charles Wu wrote:
Ultimately, the issue is one of size and uncertainty...say I'm a product
manufacturer for xyz radio infrastructure company, and I have some chunk of
$$$ to put into designing a product for a specific market...from a
bang-for-buck perspective, it's a lot easier to build a
: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Should have read have you been affected...
Patrick Shoemaker
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Tom
, 2008 1:08 AM
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What about Trango?
Charles Wu wrote:
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
Mini-PCI:
Ubiquiti
Zcomax
Vendor Solutions:
Tranzeo
Alvarion
Vecima
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Thay just need to add a couple of features to the t45...
Better ethernet configuration options
5 10 40 channels support
gino
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Which really leaves me wondering what Trango is going to be selling?
Kick ASX PTP systems. Both Tri-Band Atlases, and Licensed Links. The
have
the potential to stay a price leader in Quality PtP
Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:00 PM
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Thay just need to add
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I've heard most of the backstory on the Trango MM death. In a way I
think we should applaud Z for killing it. It would not do what we
needed
Charles,
You are full of all kinds of good posts this weekend. Glad to have you back
on list!
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the MM5 was going to be 5ghz along with an MM2 (2.4ghz
] On
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 5:02 PM
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Charles,
How about selling hundreds of AP's and thousands of SU's to a single
customer... and now that's gone.
I understand selling
riday, July 18, 2008 1:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
What about Trango?
Charles Wu wrote:
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
Mini-PCI:
Ubiquiti
Zcomax
Vendor Solutions:
Tranzeo
Alvarion
Vec
Broadband
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:04 PM
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Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the MM5 was going
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
Mini-PCI:
Ubiquiti
Zcomax
Vendor Solutions:
Tranzeo
Alvarion
Vecima/WaveRider
Wu-Wu
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
(as there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space
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Great post.Charles.
What I find funny is The primary WiMax vendors, (Alvarion, redline,
airspan, Aperto, etc) were always the Vendors that tried to sell their
Non-Wimax grear for $10,000 an AP before
Wu-WU Special? Or the Mr. That Said Special?
Hehe...
Maybe it's a subliminal message to get you to contact me off list =)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:08 AM
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, 2008 5:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Charles Wu wrote:
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents (as
there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various
Iirc, there where plans for a mm2 and mm9 series...
gino
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:51 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Travis,
The Trango 5830
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
What about Trango?
Charles Wu wrote:
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
Mini-PCI:
Ubiquiti
Zcomax
Vendor Solutions:
Tranzeo
Alvarion
Vecima/WaveRider
Wu-Wu Special*
*We
Their 45 has promise.
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No, the point to point.
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:43 PM
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Their 45 has promise.
Chuck, if you're talking about
, 2008 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the MM5 was going to be 5ghz along with an MM2 (2.4ghz) and MM9
(900mhz)... but as you mentioned, the products have been discontinued.
Which
true to the no sm left behind mantra.
At least for the time being.
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:02 PM
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Trango
, July 19, 2008 3:53 PM
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List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:02 PM
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Trango is a very opportunistic company ran by a smart and opportunistic
individual, and Z tends to chase the market that makes Z the most money
(can't really
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:04 PM
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Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the MM5 was going to be 5ghz along with an MM2 (2.4ghz) and MM9
(9
: Travis Johnson
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Charles,
How about selling hundreds of AP's and thousands of SU's to a single
customer... and now that's gone.
I understand selling
5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Charles,
How about selling hundreds of AP's and thousands of SU's to a single
customer... and now that's gone.
I understand selling a $10k radio has more profit than a few AP's and SU's, but
I
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
I have been on both ends of this as a manufacturer. I made airborne PBX
systems that were installed in the avionics bay of head-of-state, military
command and control and corporate fleet aircraft. Almost
Hi Travis,
I'm with you - the Nanostations are a pretty amazing product. I've
been deploying Nanostations on 10mhz channels in 2.4 and 5ghz with
StarOS access points and the performance/interference resistance is
pretty amazing at ANY price point. I could say the same thing for the
newer
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From: "Charles Wu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:19 PM
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Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 c
Paging Patrick Leary! This would be a great place for some insight. :-)
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:20 AM
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They dont have any ofdm 900 product
gino
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:09 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
What about Trango?
Charles Wu wrote
Charles Wu wrote:
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents (as
there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various WiMAX 802.16d systems - so feel
free to apply your necessary 'BS' filter
What I find most
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents (as
there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various WiMAX 802.16d systems - so feel free
to apply your necessary 'BS' filter
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
1. Spectral
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Even thought
List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
(as there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor
And these are as robust and immune from interference as Canopy?
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
So, what down
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
(as there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various WiMAX 802.16d systems - so feel
free to apply
: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
(as there seems to be a resurgence of puff in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various WiMAX 802.16d systems - so feel
free to apply your
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
Mini-PCI:
Ubiquiti
Zcomax
Vendor Solutions:
Tranzeo
Alvarion
Vecima/WaveRider
Wu-Wu Special*
*We are doing some exploratory investigation
: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
Scottie,
We already do that. We have a sliding scale licensing model that starts
at
16 CPE per sector. I know one other competitor that does this as well (
Airspan )
Jeff Booher
Channel Manager, North America
www.apertonet.com
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On Sun,
Jack,
Drew is an operator who is already deployed with Airspan, I believe.
Is this correct Drew?
Yes, forested areas always present a challenge, whether its 900, 700,
3.65ghz,
5.8ghz, etc etc.
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Jeff Booher
Channel Manager, North America
www.apertonet.com
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We already do that. We have a sliding scale licensing model that starts
at
16 CPE per sector. I know one other competitor that does this as well (
Airspan )
Is there an omni option? We have some rural sites that only have like
15 users on the total site. They don't make us much money but I
We operated in 2.5/6 with Navini and saw some great results. I know that
it is a different monster than 3.65, but I guess the point that I was
trying to make was the overall difference in using a robust product,
like what's available in 3.65, vs using off the shelf or even Moto 900.
I
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Scottie,
We already do that. We have a sliding scale licensing model that starts
at
16 CPE per sector. I know one other
Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
in :)
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gross bp/hz ) On a six sector
configuration with only 25mhz of spectrum, you can effectively deliver
approx 20mb per sector or 120 mb / per pop, 240 mb when
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Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
in :)
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
It would be great if this worked for everyone, everywhere. Still vendors are
missing the point in many cases. Every place does NOT have a potential for 1000
subs (there is not a 1000 homes in the town I live), nor is every place FLAT
that can be reached with service for 1000 subs. I have 4 900
I completely disagree with you on this topic. 3.65 makes a great play in
a rural setting. I have spoken with many different groups who are
capitalizing exactly on what benefits this frequency space offers in
these environments. The price tags are not as high as you think, and the
return on it
Drew,
Are you drawing your conclusions based on 3.65 deployments in other
parts of the world? I ask because it's hard to imagine that there are
already enough 3.65 deployments in the U.S. to draw all your conclusions.
Also, physics is still physics. Even given advanced antenna systems,
nLOS
.
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:53 PM
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Drew,
Are you drawing your conclusions based on 3.65 deployments in other
parts of the world? I ask
to be a perfectly legit way to promote product.
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:53 PM
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Drew,
Are you drawing your conclusions
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:05 PM
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We've got a Redline system with NLOS indoor mount at .75 miles. We did
drive
tests out to a mile NLOS, through trees, and got anywhere between 2-3Mbps
at
the lowest modulation
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
in :)
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gross bp/hz ) On a six sector
configuration
.
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From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:05 PM
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We've got a Redline system with NLOS indoor mount at .75 miles. We did
drive
tests
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