Charles Wu wrote:
> Ultimately, the issue is one of size and uncertainty...say I'm a product
> manufacturer for xyz radio infrastructure company, and I have some chunk of
> $$$ to put into designing a product for a specific market...from a
> bang-for-buck perspective, it's a lot easier to build
gt; I agree, just add supprot for 10Mhz channels, and Its all good for me.
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
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> I've heard most of the backstory on the Trango MM death. In a way I
> think we
res to the t45...
>>>
>>> Better ethernet configuration options
>>>
>>> 5 10 40 channels support
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>>> gino
>>>
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>> gino
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> Thay just need to add a couple of features to the t45...
>
> Better ethernet configuration options
>
> 5 10 40 channels support
>
> gino
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> Hi,
>
> You are co
M5, even if it can't give us
everything we want.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
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> Hi,
>
> You are correct... my mistake.
>
>
Charles,
You are full of all kinds of good posts this weekend. Glad to have you back
on list!
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RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Hi Travis,
I'm with you - the Nanostations are a pretty amazing product. I've
been deploying Nanostations on 10mhz channels in 2.4 and 5ghz with
StarOS access points and the performance/interference resistance is
pretty amazing at ANY price point. I could say the same thing for the
newer T
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nt: Saturday, July 19, 2008 5:39 PM
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I have been on both ends of this as a manufacturer. I made airborne PBX
systems that were installed in the avionics bay of head-of-state, military
command and c
: Saturday, July 19, 2008 5:02 PM
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Charles,
How about selling hundreds of AP's and thousands of SU's to a single
customer... and now that's gone.
I understand selling a $10k radio has more
: Travis Johnson
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Charles,
How about selling hundreds of AP's and thousands of SU's to a single
customer... and now that's gone.
I und
ww.winog.com
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Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, t
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> Trango is a very opportunistic company ran by a smart and opportunistic
> individual, and Z tends to chase the market that makes Z
n Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
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true to the no sm left behind mantra.
At least for the time being.
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Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the MM5 was going to be 5ghz along with an MM2 (2.4ghz) and MM9
(900mhz)... but as yo
No, the point to point.
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> >Their 45 has promise.
>
>
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Their 45 has promise.
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> Hi,
>
> You are correct... m
hnson
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>
> What about Trango?
>
> Charles Wu wrote:
>
> So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
>
>
>
>
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Iirc, there where plans for a mm2 and mm9 series...
gino
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Travis,
The Trango 5830 / 900 / 240
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Charles Wu wrote:
> Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents (as
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>Wu-WU Special? Or the "Mr. That Said" Special?
Hehe...
Maybe it's a subliminal message to get you to contact me off list =)
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stems are there for 900?
>
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> >So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
>
> Mini-PCI:
> Ubiquiti
> Zcomax
>
> Vend
Charles Wu wrote:
> Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents (as
> there seems to be a resurgence of "puff" in this space)
>
> DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various WiMAX 802.16d systems - so feel
> free to apply your necessary 'BS' filter
What I find most int
They dont have any ofdm 900 product
gino
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What about Trango?
Charles Wu
Paging Patrick Leary! This would be a great place for some insight. :-)
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Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
(as th
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>So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
Mini-PCI:
Ubiquiti
Zcomax
Vendor Solutions:
Tranzeo
Alvarion
Vecima/WaveRider
Wu-Wu Special*
*We are doing some exploratory
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> Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
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>
>
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> > Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
> > (as there seems to be a resurgence of "puff" in this space)
>
And these are as robust and immune from interference as Canopy?
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> Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents
> (as there seems to be a resurgence of "puff" in thi
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900?
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>
Even thought this thread is a bit old, couldn't help but add my 2 cents (as
there seems to be a resurgence of "puff" in this space)
DISCLAIMER: I am also a vendor of various WiMAX 802.16d systems - so feel free
to apply your necessary 'BS' filter
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
1. Spectra
ffrey thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Scottie,
>
> We already do that. We have a sliding scale licensing model that starts
&
We operated in 2.5/6 with Navini and saw some great results. I know that
it is a different monster than 3.65, but I guess the point that I was
trying to make was the overall difference in using a robust product,
like what's available in 3.65, vs using off the shelf or even Moto 900.
I completel
> We already do that. We have a sliding scale licensing model that starts
> at
> 16 CPE per sector. I know one other competitor that does this as well (
> Airspan )
Is there an omni option? We have some rural sites that only have like
<15 users on the total site. They don't make us much money bu
Jack,
Drew is an operator who is already deployed with Airspan, I believe.
Is this correct Drew?
Yes, forested areas always present a challenge, whether its 900, 700,
3.65ghz,
5.8ghz, etc etc.
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Scottie,
We already do that. We have a sliding scale licensing model that starts
at
16 CPE per sector. I know one other competitor that does this as well (
Airspan )
Jeff Booher
Channel Manager, North America
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> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:45 PM
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Mbps through trees with Canopy.
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> > We&#
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> Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
> in :)
>
>
> Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
>
> 1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gr
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> We've got a Redline system with NLOS indoor mount at .75 miles. We did
> drive
> tests out to a mile NLOS, through trees, and got anywhere between 2-3Mb
nerally you hear stuff like that from sales folks
> who
> believe puffery to be a perfectly legit way to promote product.
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y to promote product.
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> Drew,
>
> Are you drawing your conclusions based o
Drew,
Are you drawing your conclusions based on 3.65 deployments in other
parts of the world? I ask because it's hard to imagine that there are
already enough 3.65 deployments in the U.S. to draw all your conclusions.
Also, physics is still physics. Even given advanced antenna systems,
nLOS an
I completely disagree with you on this topic. 3.65 makes a great play in
a rural setting. I have spoken with many different groups who are
capitalizing exactly on what benefits this frequency space offers in
these environments. The price tags are not as high as you think, and the
return on it i
It would be great if this worked for everyone, everywhere. Still vendors are
missing the point in many cases. Every place does NOT have a potential for 1000
subs (there is not a 1000 homes in the town I live), nor is every place FLAT
that can be reached with service for 1000 subs. I have 4 900 M
rey thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
> in :)
>
Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents
in :)
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz
1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gross bp/hz ) On a six sector
configuration with only 25mhz of spectrum, you can effectively deliver
approx 20mb per sector or 120 mb / per pop, 240 mb when
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