Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Is it that I keep misunderstanding what you are trying to say? But I
feel like this has been discussed before in no uncertain terms.
Maybe I wasn't there?
I gladly yield to your apparent superior knowledge, until that is proper
reflected in an FCC ruling and the only p
Matt,
I'm not a WISP (I do network design, deployment, and consulting for service
providers), but, seeing as how none of the WISPs are answering, I'll give it
a shot as to percieved advantages of MT or StarOS.
1. I don't think the FCC certification is a huge issue. This is largely
because any of
doing that.
Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200
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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Then why can I purchas
Let me further clarify the statement below.
Computer certifications permit each component to be certified separately
and assembled as a system. As long as all of the components which go
into the computer are certified individually, you can assemble them
together into a computer which is also
So is the Ubiquiti SRC and 4.9 PCMCIA card a computing device since it was
designed for install in laptops?
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Mike Hammett
.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Then why can I purchase a Netgear PCI card for my Dell desktop?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
ned components, but I don't see
the FCC number where it was certified as a complete system. Did I miss
something?
Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12,
A General List"
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Mike Hammett wrote:
Then why can I purchase a Netgear PCI card for my Dell desktop?
Because the Netgear PCI card has been certified both as a computing device
and a Part 15 intentional radiator - but o
Mike Hammett wrote:
Then why can I purchase a Netgear PCI card for my Dell desktop?
Because the Netgear PCI card has been certified both as a computing
device and a Part 15 intentional radiator - but only if it is used with
the antenna which the Netgear was certified with.
-forrestc
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g legal?
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
It works l
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I have the contacts, forms to fill out etc. just waiting for me to get
the time to take this issue on as part of the FCC committee's job. We
have basically no FCC committee though. The principal membership
doesn't seem to be all that interested in anything other than
ligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
It works like this Doug.
A radio card is an i
"Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Mike,
What Marlon said IS NOT OPINION. The only way you can be legal is to
certify a system as a whole. You might want to take a look at t
ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
It works like this Doug.
A radio card is an intentional radiator. Under part 15 rules
in on a PC based
system run a good chance of being legal?
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To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Babble
But the base product, the "computer" does not start life as an intentional
radi
Just to be absolutely clear since this topic has generated a lot of
'assumptions'. I have NOT confirmed with the FCC that a
routerboard/wrap/gateworks SBC is considered a unintentional radiator I
have just made the statement that *I* don't see how it could be
considered an intentional radiator
Joe wrote:
Not sure about now but when smartbridges came out with Nexus line it had a a
few extra channells. And it was certified.
Did you know it was Pac Wireless who paid for the certifications on the
original Smart Bridges, not Smart Bridges?
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ubject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Or maybe it was Adaptive Broadband gear that allowed the end user to break
the rules? Anyone remember?
Best,
Brad
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Dawn DiPietro wrote:
All,
I have come to the conclusion that there are some on this list that
think FCC certification is up for debate. There may be a need for
clarification in some cases but like it or not the FCC has the final
say in what can and cannot be certified.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietr
Ryan Langseth wrote:
I made one comment in this entire thread, which I am already regretting.
I hardly consider that vocal.
My bad, Ryan, My bad. I did not mean to lump you in with a few vocal
people..
My comment was not meant to be sarcastic, I would like to see a ruling
on it one way or a
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
George,
As I said in my post wireless providers do not get to decide what
has to be certified this is up to the FCC and if there are any
questions they need to be clarified not argued a
m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
George,
As I said in my post wireless providers do not get to decide what has
to be certified this is up to the FCC and if there
Sam,
Thank you, that is what I wanted to hear. If a "system board" is
certified then the "operating system" is certified for "FCC" and of
course your mini-pci was certified by the manufacturer.
Now anybody can attach an antenna and have it certified. Total
certification.
You have a Good Day n
t; >> > or else broke it out of simple ignorance.
>> >> >
>> >> > jack
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Brad Belton wrote:
>> >> >> Wasn't there an ISP in Puerto Rico that was fined because
they h
t; or else broke it out of simple ignorance.
>> >> >
>> >> > jack
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Brad Belton wrote:
>> >> >> Wasn't there an ISP in Puerto Rico that was fined because they had
>> >&
r power than they should have?
The
>> >> manufacturer's manual clearly stated it was up to the user to
>> follow the
>> >> rules and regulations of the country the gear is deployed.
>> >>
>> >> So, if this is the case how did this gear get FCC certifi
to the user to
>> follow the
>> >> rules and regulations of the country the gear is deployed.
>> >>
>> >> So, if this is the case how did this gear get FCC certified if the
>> >> end user
>> >> was able to make these changes?
&g
For the record, I don't feel that you "have no credibility because you
no longer run a WISP", I just don't agree with you and if 15.201-221 is
your basis for the belief that a RB can't be considered under component
rules I have to believe that you don't understand what a RB is.
It is NOT an in
net a PC or vice versa doesn't make sense. Cisco
Aironet=Intentional Radiator, PC=Unintentional Radiator.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Butch Evans wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Dawn DiPietro wrote:
How would the number of customers I had on my network have any bearing
on this discussion?
The question was, however, why it matters to you what gear WISPs are
using. Sounds like George agrees with me in his opinion of your harpin
Sam,
Since some here feel I have no credibility because I no longer run a
WISP I will let you decide from this information provided.
Starting on page 78 of the following link should explain why the
wireless devices in question cannot be certified as computers.
http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rul
get FCC certified if the
>> end user
>> was able to make these changes?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Stephen Patrick
>
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Dawn DiPietro wrote:
How would the number of customers I had on my network have any
bearing on this discussion?
The question was, however, why it matters to you what gear WISPs are
using. Sounds like George agrees with me in his opinion of your
harping on this issue.
I think the question that really hasn't been answered is if a RB can be
certified class B and then use a certified radio/antenna combo as is
allowed with a PC/laptop.
And you are right that then FCC makes the rules. What is not clear is
that Dawn's (and others) position that the component rul
;> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Stephen Patrick
>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
>>
>> This "FCC country-code-lock-down" questio
ssage-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stephen Patrick
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
This "FCC country-code-lock-down" question is interesting.
Doing a quick "google"
Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
George,
As I said in my post wireless providers do not get to decide what has to
be certified this is up to the FCC and if there are any questions they
need to be clarified not argued against whi
11, 2007 2:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
George,
As I said in my post wireless providers do not get to decide what has to
be certified this is up to the FCC and if there are any questions they
need to be clarified not argued against which seems to be the norm amon
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Behalf Of Stephen Patrick
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
This "FCC country-code-lock-down" question is interesting.
Doing a quick "google" I found this:
http://www.cisco.com/unive
ed" country ID. Interesting debate- look forward to hearing more
Regards
Stephen
-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 June 2007 16:25
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I have no means of testing that. Howev
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Mike,
I'l
I think we can all agree that gear certification is the law. Could we
maybe kill this thread off before we start losing list members from the
inflation of the number of posts about this seemingly elementary topic?
Scriv
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
George,
As I said in my post wireless providers do
are they allowed if the user cannot select something outside of
FCC permission?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11
mber it. :-p
-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
One
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I dis
George,
As I said in my post wireless providers do not get to decide what has to
be certified this is up to the FCC and if there are any questions they
need to be clarified not argued against which seems to be the norm among
some on this list.
How would the number of customers I had on my ne
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Wasn't there an ISP in Puerto Rico that was fined because they had set their
gear (Aperto I think) to a higher power than they should have? The
manufa
, June 11, 2007 1:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Wasn't there an ISP in Puerto Rico that was fined because they had set their
gear (Aperto I think) to a higher power than they should have? The
manufacturer's manual clearly sta
ject: RE: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
This "FCC country-code-lock-down" question is interesting.
Doing a quick "google" I found this:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo1200/accsspts/a
p120scg/bkscgaxa.htm
Don't know how up-to-date those
abble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
This "FCC country-code-lock-down" question is interesting.
Doing a quick "google" I found this:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo1200/accsspts/a
p120scg/bkscgaxa.htm
Don't know how up-to-date those lists are, as
ave a
"locked" country ID. Interesting debate- look forward to hearing more
Regards
Stephen
-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 June 2007 16:25
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I have no means of test
Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
Is that really a necessary question,
It sure is to find out where she's coming from.
As a wisp, a long term wisp, as the person that bootstrapped this tiny
bbs-isp from the dial up days in 99 to where we are today, who has put
his money where his mouth is, and taken all
Matt Liotta wrote:
George Rogato wrote:
Dawn,
Just how many wisp customers did you have in your short career as a wisp?
Why is it that some people who don't actually participate in running a
wireless service want to come in and try to tell us how to run our wisps?
I don't think that is fai
alf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:47 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Dawn,
Just how many wisp customers did you have in your short career as a wisp?
Why is it that some people who don't actually participate in running a
wireless service want to com
George Rogato wrote:
Dawn,
Just how many wisp customers did you have in your short career as a wisp?
Why is it that some people who don't actually participate in running a
wireless service want to come in and try to tell us how to run our wisps?
I don't think that is fair. It isn't Dawn tel
ot select something outside of
FCC permission?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: Not Babble
Dawn,
Just how many wisp customers did you have in your short career as a wisp?
Why is it that some people who don't actually participate in running a
wireless service want to come in and try to tell us how to run our wisps?
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
All,
I have come to the conclusion that t
m Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.
- Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I would. I already committed to my guy that he will be my source for
whatever h
grin
marlon
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From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Can you use "nice" and Teletronics in the same sentence? ;)
Travis
Marlon K.
e the ability to
set them for non fcc areas. All the need is a MODE that puts the
device into an FCC compatible format.
laters,
marlon
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:00 AM
S
o use different, non-FCC frequencies.
Why are they allowed if the user cannot select something outside of FCC
permission?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA G
do is mail it off to a
lab.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS
r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:00 AM
Subject: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Michael,
Just for info -
The question of being required to use a software version that denied
operation on non-US frequencies has been hanging o
the lab.
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
On a volume of 1, I can get a 5 GHz CPE for $185. IIRC, 100 unit quantities
were $140. I can
ot select something outside of
FCC permission?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: Not Babb
From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Why $200 more?
At $200 if the vendor sell 10 systems, that is $2000, almost 66% of the
certification cost returned. Sell 100 and that is
om: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Mike Hammett wrote:
Speed, features, reduced points of failure, price.
If I can setup two complete and separate MT systems for less than the
ccess, Inc.
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From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I would. I already committed to my guy that he will be my source for
whatever he makes that I cou
Bravo. The best way to get gear certified from vendors is to NOT buy it
until it is. The problem then fixes itself. There are plenty of
certified gear options out there already.
Scriv
Matt Liotta wrote:
I don't really understand this MT thread at all. Why use MT over all
the other certified
ssage -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Babble
If indeed, an XR5 is certified with that particular 32dbi antenna, cable and
pigtail. No reason they wouldnt certify popular antenna combos, not t
Mike Hammett wrote:
Speed, features, reduced points of failure, price.
If I can setup two complete and separate MT systems for less than the
other guys can... Heck, could probably even setup a wireless ring
using different bands for each link for less than the other guys.
Even the greatest
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I never thought of it that way. Doug makes a lot of valid points.
I can put an XR5 with a 32 dbi antenna into a PC and install Windows and be
legal. Why can't I install
ssion?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Michael,
J
st
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
The problem is the current RB532 will NEVER pass FCC certifications. It emits
too much noise in the 150mHz and 400mHz areas to ever pass any certification.
Maybe their new boards are different?
Travis
Microserv
is willing to call their cards
peripherals like Linksys and D-link already do.
-Original Message-
From: Dawn DiPietro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
All,
I have come to the conclusion that there are s
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Babble
Ok. I've said this before. On a home PC, I don't need to certify a Dell
computer running Win2k an
quot;Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I don't really understand this MT thread at all. Why use MT over all the
other certified systems available? Further, why spend time and money tryi
is Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I said this several months ago and I'll say it again MT and Star-OS are
used because of price. Period.
If the "certified" syst
king on it.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Mike,
I see no evidence of a
All,
I have come to the conclusion that there are some on this list that
think FCC certification is up for debate. There may be a need for
clarification in some cases but like it or not the FCC has the final say
in what can and cannot be certified.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
--
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Michael,
Just for info -
The question of being required to use a software version that denied
operation on non-US frequencies has been hanging over Mikrotik and WISPs
now for several months. Seems this is the last issue that needs to be
addressed before we will see a potential flood of Mikrot
Michael,
This is the first time I have gotten into this subject, and the last.
As I said, I have seen this same thing come up at least a dozen time on
this list. While I did say how long I have been on this list, my time
in the industry is only about a month longer. Its always the same
thing, it
Ryan,
A few of you are making a lot of noise.
You seem to want to talk a lot about how MT is not certified and you say
"but if it were"...
Ryan, Why haven't you and those so vocal gone to the FCC with this
question already?
The FCC is but a telephone call away.
http://www.fcc.gov/
It never ce
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 01:09 -0400, Michael Erskine wrote:
> Rick;
>
> I think that your opinion is like mine, both informed and experienced.
> I am perfectly comfortable with my opinion. And I did not get into an
> argument, or even suggest one was somehow a good idea.
>
> That said, let me al
labels on it
and sell it as certified. If not, fix it, resubmit it and try again.
Repeat until
certified.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michael Erskine
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babbl
Matt Liotta wrote:
George Rogato wrote:
Matt there is a tool for every job. Just because someone uses MT or
Star does not mean they don't use canopy, trango or alvarion as well.
And nobody needs to explain why.
I am well aware of that, which is why we use so many different
vendors' radios.
t: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Dawn;
I think you are reading the letter of the law and not understanding the
reality. An RB153 is *NOT* an intentional radiator any more than the PC
you mention is an intentional radiator. The cards which
t;Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
I said this several months ago and I'll say it again MT and
Star-OS are used because of price. Period.
If the "certified" sy
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:36 AM
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I disagree with that.
I can get a nice Teletronics AP for about $220. My last MT solution ran
closer to $500.
I tried MT (lost one of
read. :P
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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:38 PM
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Ryan,
Currently a "typical" MT AP with wireless card, outdoor case, pigtails,
etc. with an RB532
27;d still be working to get customers back online.
It was sure nice to have all of the test modes that the MT has though.
Pretty cool stuff.
marlon
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM
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The issue of certification is a simple one.
Certs are only good for the assembler or complete system manufacturer.
If you assemble your
ehalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:44 PM
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The problem is the current RB532 will NEVER pass FCC certifications. It
emits too much noise in the 150mHz and 400mHz areas to ever pass any
certification. Maybe their new board
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:36 PM
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If the "certified" systems come out and are double the price (so $400
for a RB532 type solution compared with $200 now) how many people are
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:38 PM
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Ryan,
Currently a "typical" MT AP with wireless card, outdoor case, pigtails,
etc. with an RB532 board is
Travis Johnson wrote:
I said this several months ago and I'll say it again MT and Star-OS
are used because of price. Period.
Thats right, MT and Star are priced to the point a wisp can make the
market happen a whole lot faster than other more expensive solutions.
The guys that cherry
George Rogato wrote:
Matt there is a tool for every job. Just because someone uses MT or
Star does not mean they don't use canopy, trango or alvarion as well.
And nobody needs to explain why.
I am well aware of that, which is why we use so many different vendors'
radios. We first started wit
sell this to me? My credit card is standing by.
ryan <- The troll trying to kill this thread. :P
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:38 PM
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R
d try again.
Repeat until
certified.
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:41 PM
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Dawn;
I think you are reading the letter of the law and not unders
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