Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Eric Rogers
the contract to what they are selling to others. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers So what

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Eric Rogers
And when I say re-negotiate, I mean sign a new contract at the other rate. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
much. We watch our usage and when the system hits 95% of capacity for mroe than a few minutes per day we buy more capacity. That help? marlon - Original Message - From: ~NGL~ To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-08-05 Thread Marco Coelho
We see each server with about 500 subs sucks down during peak load at around 50M/s. or around 100 subs per 10M 10 users per meg. Your mileage may vary. We rarely see less than 20M for the same 500 subs Marco

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
the residential that will drive me crazy. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers Also I guess when you

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-08-01 Thread Josh Luthman
We did a similar survey and found Travis was the biggest bandwidth nazi. I was in the worst third :( On Jul 31, 2010 10:48 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, thats about right. At 300 subs, I'm seeing occasional burst of 20Mbps. On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Josh Luthman
You mean Canopy down link? 66 and 33 as that is 2/3. On Jul 31, 2010 10:38 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What ratio of bandwidth per 100 customers is being used to deliver 2M down and 1M up? WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread ~NGL~
How much bandwidth do you purchase per 100 customers to deliver 2M down and 1M up? From: ~NGL~ Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers What ratio of bandwidth per 100 customers is being used to deliver 2M down and

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Well we do 2x512 and 4x1 and 200 customers use roughly 15 megs. On Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How much bandwidth do you purchase per 100 customers to deliver 2M down and 1M up? *From:* ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net *Sent:* Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:37 AM *To:* WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread RickG
Ya, thats about right. At 300 subs, I'm seeing occasional burst of 20Mbps. On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well we do 2x512 and 4x1 and 200 customers use roughly 15 megs. On Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How much bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers Well we do 2x512 and 4x1 and 200 customers use roughly 15 megs. On Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers My thinking has been 10 meg per 100 as a baseline but it really depends on the usage in that network. If there are heavy Netflix or any other HD video service, the demand could be double. Monitoring is the only thing

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Jeremie Chism
://www.shelbybb.com *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert West *Sent:* Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:53 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers My thinking has been 10 meg per 100 as a baseline but it really depends

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Jeremie Chism
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:11 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers Well we do 2x512 and 4x1 and 200 customers use roughly 15 megs. On Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How much

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

2010-07-31 Thread Robert West
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers Well we do 2x512 and 4x1 and 200 customers use roughly 15 megs. On Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM, ~NGL~ n

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Coelho
Akami requires you to hit 75 Mb/s of their content before they want to add a server to your noc. mc WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-26 Thread jp
There is no such thing as collisions now on ethernet/fiber as we use switches instead of hubs. Each link is full duplex and capable of handing 100% capacity. However if you basing utilization on 5 minute averages like MRTG, keep in mind that's a 5 minute average and you could be going from

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-25 Thread Marco Coelho
Lots of different factors. One of the biggest is how fast you are growing. We build out in spurts. I may add 10 towers in a three month period. As soon as marketing in that area hits, growth is usually pretty fast. The second biggest factor is how slow new bandwidth is to light up. I just

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-25 Thread Marco Coelho
BTW, We retired our squid cache server a few years ago. It was based in our main NOC, not at the edge. If I had to do it again, I would put small caches at the edge instead. Just make sure if they die or hang the customers can still get out. I would make the caches small (10G) with multiple

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-21 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On May 20, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: I had heard folks like Akamai will give servers if your network is big enough - but never been able to get traction on that rumor sadly http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_partner.html -- Blake Covarrubias

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread RickG
When you peak at 65-75 percent its probably time to add more. It depends on how fast your filling it up and how long it takes to implement the new capacity. -RickG On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: At what percentage of your backbone usage do you look at

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread D. Ryan Spott
What do your trends show you? Take your yearly graph and draw a line along the averages. Extend this line what does it do? ryan On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:54 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: When you peak at 65-75 percent its probably time to add more. It depends on how fast your

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Scott Reed
Old rule of thumb for Ethernet, because it is based on collision detection, is 70-75% is the max you want. Above this and collisions often become an issue. I assume the same is true for the faster links as well. Jeremie Chism wrote: At what percentage of your backbone usage do you look at

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
That depends on how long your peaks last. The bottom line is that peaks generally only last short periods. If you run out of peak capacity, the side effect is usually minimal. All that occurs is that transfers during those peak time slow down a bit and spreadout over a longer period of time.

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Jeremie Chism
Thanks Tom for the information. I appreciate you taking the time our of your busy day to give me such good information. It is greatly appreciated. I will make some adjustment to increase cpe bandwidth and see what happens. Most of my traffic shoul be bursty because it is business but I do

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Glenn Kelley
to the design and technology of the backbone. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Justin Wilson
Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:54:49 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth When you peak at 65-75 percent its probably time to add more

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Scott Reed
, May 20, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Old rule of thumb for Ethernet, because it is based on collision detection, is 70-75% is the max you want. Above this and collisions often become an issue. I assume the same is true for the faster links as well. Jeremie Chism wrote

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth To point one, it depends on the device and the settings. If set to full duplex, there should not be collisions in a ptp

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
11:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Well Put. Have you guys thought about - (sorry jumping in the back end here) adding squid or caching? I have seen some major drops on bandwidth when caching is put in place - up to 30+% On the other hand - squid is not a replacement

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Jeremie Chism
: [WISPA] Bandwidth Well Put. Have you guys thought about - (sorry jumping in the back end here) adding squid or caching? I have seen some major drops on bandwidth when caching is put in place - up to 30+% On the other hand - squid is not a replacement for the additional bandwidth. On May

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread RickG
and technology of the backbone. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread Glenn Kelley
: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Old rule of thumb for Ethernet, because it is based on collision detection, is 70-75% is the max you want. Above this and collisions often become an issue. I assume the same is true for the faster links as well. Jeremie Chism wrote: At what percentage of your

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-07 Thread Frank Crawford
Matt; Thanks for sharing your information. Frank On 5/6/2010 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently implemented, along with some details on how we are

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-07 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hey Matt, Can you give us your customers' reaction to this change after a few weeks? ryan On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this list recently, I thought that I would share the one

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-07 Thread Josh Luthman
EXCELLENT post. This is worth framing. Thank you very much for the information and publishing this with us. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”

Re: [WISPA] bandwidth available

2010-04-28 Thread Mike
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] bandwidth available In the words of a good friend, never underestimate the bandwidth of a Ford Pinto loaded with CDs / DVDs traveling 90 miles per hour down the highway. Where are you located? We've got some pretty good contracts in place. Marco On Tue

Re: [WISPA] bandwidth available

2010-04-28 Thread Marco Coelho
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] bandwidth available In the words of a good friend, never underestimate the bandwidth of a Ford Pinto loaded with CDs

Re: [WISPA] bandwidth available

2010-04-27 Thread Mike
Marco, could you just mail me some? I have a hard time finding wholesale bandwidth in my market; I wish I was closer. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, April 27,

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-04-11 Thread Roger Howard
We use Ipacco http://ipacco.sourceforge.net/ This collects the IP accounting data from our border cisco router(s) and puts it into a central MySQL database. But it makes a HUGE database with lots more data than we need that is really slow to query. So we wrote a PHP script that runs every few

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Bandwidth or bits? Actually ip track kind of does both. Each customer can see the speeds that their system was averaging. We never use it because we worry about peak speeds, but the data is there. All data is sent by the main routers. marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen -

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-31 Thread David
We use mrtg/rrd to collect data transfer values from cpe. Then we use mrtg totalizer to produce graphs that have daily and month totals. We also have a modified totalizer script that checks to see if that are any bandwidth abusers because they have used more than x in the last 30 days and y in

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
Matt I think Cacti Made Easy is a great solution for you :-) In short - CACTI will listen on SNMP - as well as at the switch level and give you this control. As of Freeside - Not sure - btu would assume there should be an import. Call me off list - and I can help ya - one fat cowboy to

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
Matt - I almost forgot the link http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/ On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a hard time coming up with a

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Scott Reed
If you can run IPTrack (see some of Marlon's previous posts) you have have the MTs report by IP address back to the server. I have done this on my network, though it is not running right now. I would be glad to help if you opt to go this way. Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Hello list, I am

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Scott, 4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location It's StarOS NATing the customers off of the backbone. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
That is a great link! I don't think it will solve my immediate problem, but I may look at using this to replace our current Cacti server at some point. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:30 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: Matt - I almost forgot the link http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
IPTrack is Brandon Checkett's program, and we did experiment with it, but it doesn't do exactly what we are looking for, and we were concerned about its apparent lack of any new development. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:32 PM, Scott Reed wrote: If you can run IPTrack (see some of

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
StarOS is NATting at each backbone location - that is why I wanted to put this collection in place between the core router and the NAT router so it can see the customer data in its native (pre-NATted) state. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Scott, 4)

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Scott Reed
3) Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location I took it that all traffic goes through these as well. Matt, does all your traffic run through an MT somewhere on its way out? Josh Luthman wrote: Scott, 4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location It's StarOS NATing

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I think we need to find out if I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers... means how much you're entire upstream is using or how much each customer is using individually so you can find the top few heavy users. Josh

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi Josh, I'm wanting to track how much each individual customers is using so I can bill the ones that go over our bandwidth cap. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think we need to find out if I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Then you will need to find a solution with StarOS. Can you maybe set a single queue for each customer and then obtain that via SNMP? I'm totally unfamiliar with StarOS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Actually, I could potentially do it from the Mikrotik router at the core, behind the StarOS NAT server. Only problem is that the NetFlow collector on Mikrotik is broken. That is why we are leaning toward something between the core and NAT servers to collect the data. Queues will not work,

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Sam Tetherow
What is broken in netflow? I've been using it for over 5 years now to collect traffic data and it seems spot on. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless On 3/30/10 3:30 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Actually, I could potentially do it from the Mikrotik router at the core, behind the

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Justin Wilson
Cacti would be what I would start with. I have set it up where business customers have their own individual logins and can see just the graphs you want them to. It has built in graphs for 95th percentile. There is a plugin called nectar which allows you to have graphs e-mailed. You can also

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Steven McGehee
We're also big fans and long time users of Cacti, so I'd happily recommend it as well. On 3/30/2010 16:46, Justin Wilson wrote: Cacti would be what I would start with. I have set it up where business customers have their own individual logins and can see just the graphs you want them

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
prtg will meet your needs Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: Hello list, I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a hard time

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Nick Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions We're also big fans and long time users of Cacti, so I'd happily recommend it as well. On 3/30/2010 16:46, Justin Wilson wrote: Cacti would be what I would start

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Tim Sylvester
Hi Matt, I have built usage-based accounting systems for ISPs using NetFlow and/or RADIUS Accounting and MySQL running on Linux. Contact me directly to discuss. Tim -- Tim Sylvester Network RADIUS (408) 826-8350 (o) (408) 334-1700 (m) tim.sylves...@networkradius.com -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Matt Jenkins
Have you looked into PMACCT with NetFlow? Tim Sylvester wrote: Hi Matt, I have built usage-based accounting systems for ISPs using NetFlow and/or RADIUS Accounting and MySQL running on Linux. Contact me directly to discuss. Tim -- Tim Sylvester Network RADIUS (408) 826-8350 (o)

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Richey
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Tim Sylvester
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Have you looked into PMACCT with NetFlow? The short

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Scott, 4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location It's StarOS

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Actually, I could potentially do it from the Mikrotik router at the core, behind the StarOS NAT server. Only problem is that the NetFlow collector on Mikrotik is broken. That is why we

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Richey myli...@battleop.com To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions I had CactiEZ running in a VM Ware on a Dell 1850 with 4GB of ram. It did fine

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell of a cacti box. But you could SNMP hit each customers CPE device if it supports

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Charles Regan
: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell of a cacti box. But you could SNMP hit each customers CPE device if it supports it. That would be quite the load

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Charles Regan
graphs now. Richey -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Charles Regan
30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell of a cacti box. But you could SNMP hit each customers CPE device if it supports it. That would be quite the load

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Charles Regan
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell of a cacti box. But you could SNMP hit

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
graphs now. Richey -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Well, This would be a little

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-05 Thread Ray Jean
Marco We are looking for 50 meg pipe in Pulaski Tn.16724 west college st. Ray - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Can you give an exact address

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-05 Thread Mike Hammett
, February 05, 2010 8:59 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Marco We are looking for 50 meg pipe in Pulaski Tn.16724 west college st. Ray - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-04 Thread Marco Coelho
Can you give an exact address and quantity of bandwidth you're looking for? Marco On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Ray Jean webbil...@surfmore.net wrote: Anyone know of a cheap provider of bandwidth in southern middle Tennessee? Thanks Ray Jean

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-03 Thread Robert West
One man's cheap bandwidth is another's OH HELL NO! Try asking your county engineers office or the county tax office. They should have fiber maps and would be able to tell you who owns what and where. After that. A big black hole with large dollar signs if you aren't careful.

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Pay attention to utility markers on the side of the road. Eventually you'll notice patterns of routes and what companies use what markers. If I see a red rectangle on a metal post in area A, I know it's the power company. In area B, I know it's Comcast. If I see a faded

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-29 Thread John Thomas
the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-29 Thread John Thomas
Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-29 Thread Glenn Kelley
The best way to test bandwidth is to use simple tools like iPerf. Techs should load iPerf on their laptops as well. Iperf was developed by NLANR/DAST as a modern alternative for measuring maximum TCP and UDP bandwidth performance. Iperf allows the tuning of various parameters and UDP

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
of my rambling... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread Andy Trimmell
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread jp
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:42:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even further to go. - Mike Hammett Looks like we'd have to go across three states to get

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo On Wed, Jan 27

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread Justin Wilson
Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. -- John, You are correct, Gig is starting to go for $1-$2 per mb. Not only from Hurricaine, although Hurricaine is clearly a

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:42:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-27 Thread RickG
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Justin Wilson
­ Hosting ­ Consulting ­ Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Mike Hammett
General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Andy Trimmell
] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Brad Belton
Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Location, location, location... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Philip Dorr
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread John Thomas
should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread John Thomas
-- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
into the colo. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread Justin Wilson
I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now. No complaints for the users. But this network also has a BGP feed from Tier1. We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago. No problems with them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes. --

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread Jon Auer
2nd that. Cogent in Wisconsin has been solid for us for the past two years or so. I have not heard bad things about their network out of Illinois either. Some people have problems with them in other markets. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote:    I have seen a

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