Oh, and XO has a lot of their own metro fiber. Not sure of their long haul.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:31 PM
To:
Web hosts are usually fairly good sources. They buy large quantities from
many carriers and often have a lot of inbound capacity available.
Check out BGPlay for the routing and reliability of a certain IP block.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Not to you, but to the thread:
Cogent isn't even the low cost leader anymore.
PCCW is often cheaper as is HE.
HE even has $1250 GEs and $400 FEs.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Tom DeReggi
Many carriers swap routes around.
http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/2/AS2828.htm
According to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network
XO has paid peering with Sprint and L3, but some information on that page
isn't exactly current with things I've heard
http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/2714
Lets hope the FCC can make a ruling as balanced and appropriate as this one.
Matt Larsen
Vistabeam.com
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
HE even has $1250 GEs
Wow, is that transport or transit?
Yeah, 2 months ago, we were going to get an Abovenet transport to Hurricain
transit because Hurricane's market low pricing, but then Equinix started
giving us a hard time on colo, trying to charge us more for the colo than
both the
Useful site. I found it particular intersting that Level3 was high up on all
teh stats.
These are all good metric for evaluating provider's peering relevence and
size.
What these sites dont help with is tell you the capacity or throughput
accross the routes.
A company could have 1000 more
Hi Daniel,
Thanks, busy checking them out now.
Does anybody on the list have some experiences they can share regarding Exalt,
Infinet Orthogon.
Regards,
Rolf
On Monday 19 October 2009 12:50:15 3-dB Networks wrote:
Rolf,
You might also want to check out this product... I've done some bench
Yeah, but I'd have shipping on that
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Used Tower Pricing.
Pole mounts are 8 bucks at
Our situation is thus: We are leasing a 45 Mile1 Gig fiber link from
Greenville TX to 2323 Bryan ST. in Dallas (carrier hotel).
My primary need is quality bandwidth. This will become my preferred
route to the world.
Secondary requirement is a company I won't have to spend 1 year
working to get
Hey someone was on my roof and stole my dish!
Get your livestock offa my roof!
mc
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
I have a guy who pays his bill in dish mounts. $2 per mount delivered.
We only accept the ones that are clean and reusable. He drops
AboveNET will layout the exact path your fiber feed will be for you. Just
make sure you're secondary path is completely diverse from whatever you
choose as your primary.
My suggestion would be to go with AboveNET or Level3 as your primary and use
Cogent as your secondary. We haven't had any
Yes, this is the reason I want the data. Of course it won't account for
RT deployment, though.
Thanks for the responses.
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com
jp wrote:
Telcodata.us has some info
I've had as few people approach me in the recent past wanting to partner up
with me and to be honest, I can really use someone to carry half the load.
I'm leery, however of getting screwed. (My father was in business for years
with one partner and after they took on another they all got screwed
Dell, Microsoft Launching Broadband Net In Rural Virginia
Computer Companies Join TDF Foundation, Spectrum Bridge To Debut Network
Using 'White Spaces'
John Eggerton -- Multichannel News, 10/21/2009 3:47:19 PM
Computer companies Dell and Microsoft are scheduled to join with TDF
Foundation and
Don't do it...
Or if you do do it make sure you have controlling interest in the company
and can ultimately make any decision there is to be made. Consult lawyer
do not do it on your own... That's my 2 cents :)
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
My rules are:
Make it performance based
Make sure what he is bringing to the table is equitable to the proposed
share of the company
Try to talk out exit strategy, where you are taking it, how you want to
go and see if that matches up to what your new partner wants to do.
This all depends on
It's funny but I bet that happens. Good example of that is stolen man hole
covers to be sold at the scrap yard, road signs and on the metal light
poles, the little covers at the bottom that cover the electrical
access.. They were stolen so much that now they dont even come with
them. This
Worldcom was the worst for billing issues. MCI was the bomb before
they were assimilated.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
AboveNET will layout the exact path your fiber feed will be for you. Just
make sure you're secondary path is completely diverse
I sell MY junk on the street corner!
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
It's funny but I bet that happens. Good example of that is stolen man hole
covers to be sold at the scrap yard, road signs and on the metal light
poles, the little covers at
I don't know why Microsoft would even want to include Dell in any of that,
they have the muscle to wipe everyone but Google out of the way. But if
Microsoft is involved, poor service and failed applications will soon
follow.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
We're a full C corporation. I never thought about Exit strategy but I have
thought about the death of one of the partners, hopefully from natural
causes and how their share should be handled.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Thought about that too. I want to at least have control in policy and
pricing.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
I dont think I want to know the details on that one..
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Used Tower
In WA state they are trying to make it a law that no cash leaves the
scrapyard. Only checks dated 2 days in the future.
Makes it harder to turn a quick buck on metal recycling
ryan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
It's funny but I bet that happens.
You need to finalize the divorce plans before getting married in business.
Talk to a good business lawyer or you could end up having his wife be your
partner or any number of other things that may be undesirable. Don't give
away what you have worked on to this point by not being educated by a
Hiya Robert,
First off, we've got nearly 7000 square miles of coverage (NOT all together
in one area) and 600 wireless subs. Plus dialup and fiber (we're a fiber
reseller so there's not much work involved most of the time). You may not
really NEED a partner, rather a good secretary. We take
Three methods in order of best to worst:
Buyout
*Pay the guy a good salary, buy his equipment, buy this and that but do not
give controlling interest/stock
Cooperation
*This never works don't even try
Partnership
*You better get a whole hell of a lot before trying this as this ends many
small
That will not work. Federal banking laws make it illegal to write any other
date other tan the present on a bearer instrument
That's an uphill battle.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:34:13
To:
My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint
used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I
guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go one MB its not on my radar
of concern. Actually in our market if you cant deliver 10-20MB your
Robert,
A good partnership agreement / shareholder agreement is a necessity if you
are going to take on a partner and make your business venture a success.
There are a lot of considerations:
How to split profits
How to split losses
How to elect a board of directors
How to make management
A good lawyer around here is tough. I have honestly used 5 different
lawyers in the past 2 years. They always know but they are always wrong. I
hate that... Need to find a good one but it's not like a TV where I can
read reviews! Yes, they do have legal reviews but it all seems like self
IIRC, 6 mhz channels were proponed on the FCC RO, you could bond them...
so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 mhz
channel.
Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
I will share a couple of pointers...
Besides getting professional advise from an Accountant / Lawyer / and your
Business Insurance Adviser.
Partnership is an ownership arrangement, which IS NOT the same as Owner's
Compensation Arrangement.
We have passive partners who
In Ohio, not sure of other states, but if you write a check with a date that
is not the date you write it, it becomes an IOU. We had a guy in the area
who was writing checks on a closed account and was putting the next month as
the date. Had the right day and year but post dated them all for the
I'm not sure how Equinix is in other cities, but in Chicago, they are just
one tenant among many in the building. Equinix charges a lot for
everything. If you can find another tenant such as TelX or a web host, I'd
go there (depending on cross connect charges).
It's transit. Usually in the
Yes but out here in BFE, they can get dialup on very bad phone lines, Wild
Blue or cell card. Offering 512k in a market such as mine will have them
beating down your doors.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott
That sort of information would be impossible to have without the carrier
providing it.
The more peers a carrier has, the less finger pointing can go on. If L(3)
or Cogent are your carriers and you're having connectivity issues to someone
else that also uses them, they can't blame anyone
Hit me offlist I can recommend an excellent one that is very familiar with
your business because he handles mine. Sharpest lawyer I ever worked
with.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent:
We got severely screwed during the MCI-Verizon transition. They
stopped billing us our overage on our DS-3 for about 6-8 months. We
just assumed we hadn't gone over our base rate. All of a sudden, we
get an invoice in the mail for something like $20k+. The very next
day we get a call from
6 MHz is correct. Self-install is unlikely. Mobile is highly
questionable.
Gino Villarini wrote:
IIRC, 6 mhz channels were proponed on the FCC RO, you could bond them...
so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 mhz
channel.
Not bad for a NLOS, self install and
Spectrum is spectrum. 6 MHz of space at 300 MHz is just as fast as 6 MHz at
5 GHz or 600 GHz.
That said, each TV channel is 6 MHz and the radio must support bonding (in
my opinion) to be useful.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Hold that... UUNET, not MCI
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
Worldcom was the worst for billing issues. MCI was the bomb before
they were assimilated.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
AboveNET will layout the
To list members:
Yesterday, Redline hosted a conference call with 15 operator participants to
kick off a coalition of operators who have deployed or plan to deploy broadband
wireless systems in the 3.65 GHz band in the US, with the goal to discuss the
current license exempt rules, some of the
Find the most trustworthy, successful businesses in your area and get
referrals for a lawyer. -RickG
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
A good lawyer around here is tough. I have honestly used 5 different
lawyers in the past 2 years. They always
Regardless, the state is looking for a method of reducing the
steal-copper-from-YOUR-tower-in-exchange-for-quick-cash/fix
opportunities.
I thought it was pretty cool.
ryan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
In Ohio, not sure of other states, but if
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:14 -0400, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
The circuit was originally purchased from UUNET and there were great.
MCI acquired them and support went downhill fast. Like Cogent, you
could have someone at UUNET look at BGP problems 24/7. Once MCI took
over, they only
Marco,
If you are considering Level3, you may also want to get a price quote from
WBSConnect, who is a Level3 reseller. They can sometimes be very
competitive, and give you an idea if you are paying what you should.
I'd be interested in learning what Abovenet quotes you for Gig-E Transit.
Has anyone put forth a serious effort to develop the mechanism they call
for, or have people seriously tried, and just been rejected without just
reasoning?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From:
Any comments on this unit?
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=58646eventPage=1
Thanks
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Broadband for Business
Public and Private WiFi
http://www.aircloud.com
Jerry Richardson
VP Operations
925-260-4119 x2
P Please consider the
Also, anything else that is lower cost that is reliable?
Any AGM chargers that have LVD built in?
How about using a standard charger with an outboard charge controller/LVD?
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of
Mike,
We have been working with the FCC team for the past year on a mechanism that
has already been accepted by Industry Canada for the new 3.65 GHz band opening
up this winter (entire 50 MHz). It seems to us that the upper 25 MHz may never
be opened up; this is a key action item for the
You can use this as an LVD only. If your load is under 10amps.
http://www.mrsolar.com/page/MSOS/PROD/morningstar/SS-10L-24V
-Kevin
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
Also, anything else that is lower cost that is reliable?
Any AGM chargers
The first thing is to establish WHY a partnership agreement is neccessary,
apposed to other options.
I have generally find that the new prospective partner under values what the
primary owner had already given to build its business, and often new
prospective partners under-estimate what
How about reducing the size of grandfathered satellite station exclusion
zones. Dealing with SES Americom is worse than dealing with a
government agency.
Pat
Kevin Suitor wrote:
Mike,
We have been working with the FCC team for the past year on a mechanism that
has already been accepted
I saw that. Seems too cheap to be reliable.
Load is ~3.5A
This is going on a tower that loses power during storms, during which the tower
is not really accessable.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Kevin Neal
Sent:
Another key topic
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of pat
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes
How about reducing the size
If you are a Ccorp, easy to convert to Scorp, if it determines appropriate.
But yes, definately pre-define the exit strategy, considering wether it
would be you or him exiting, and both.
The horror stories in Partnership occur most at exit time.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet-
After reading this thread, I something gnawed at me... it did not seem
correct that a post-dated check would fall outside of the bad check laws.
So without doing a lot of research, I would contend that knowingly or
intentionally passing post-dated checks on a closed account is most
certainly
What do you mean? Whitespace is like a 6 mhz channel. Put QAM64 on that, and
you are pushing like 10 mbps per sector.
Whitespace will give you everthing 900Mhz did, except less interference (In
hopes), more NLOS coverage, and many cases MANY more channels.
Sure whitespace wont be living in the
Exactly. The problem is, he dated them all for the following month and I
dont know about you, but I never pay attention to the date, just the
amount. So me and everyone else deposited them in the bank thus they were
presented before the date on the check. From what I heard, I wasn't there,
the
are there not many spaces? I think this first test is just one channel
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Tom DeReggi
wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
What do you mean? Whitespace is like a 6 mhz channel. Put QAM64 on
that, and
you are pushing like 10 mbps per sector.
This is primarily going to be useful for rural areas. In large cities
there will be few or NO channels available. The more rural you are, the
more unused TV channels will be available.
Jerry Richardson wrote:
are there not many spaces? I think this first test is just one channel
Sent
Was Motorola involved at all with this? I am pretty sure they have a
3.65 product in the pipeline.
Matt
To list members:
Yesterday, Redline hosted a conference call with 15 operator participants to
kick off a coalition of operators who have deployed or plan to deploy
broadband wireless
I'd suggest looking at the various solar charge controllers. We've bought
morningstar ones from altestore.com
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 01:53:52PM -0400, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Also, anything else that is lower cost that is reliable?
Any AGM chargers that have LVD built in?
How about using
Right. MCI billing was a nightmare.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams
Hold that... UUNET, not MCI
On
Rockwell Collins, over in Cedar Rapids apparently finally got the
retro encambulator perfected. It works way better than Canopy, and
makes a laughing stock of WiFi.
How many should I buy?
Mike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVVKEsPeLtIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVVKEsPeLtI
Wow, We've been working on this for over 20 years and just could not
figure out how to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.
I never thought about employing it conjunction with a drawn
reciprocating dingle arm.
Man, that's pure genius.
Mike wrote:
Rockwell Collins, over in Cedar Rapids apparently
I'm not sure how Equinix is in other cities, but in Chicago, they are just
one tenant among many in the building. Equinix charges a lot for
everything.
Thats good to know. Here in Ashburn, its not the case, they own all the
buildings, and there are several.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless,
2009/10/22 Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com:
Any comments on this unit?
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=58646eventPage=1
Not sure what your application is, but we have been happy with these:
http://www.newmartelecom.com/EPS/EPS.html
What equipment are they using? Did they have to do the 30 meter antennas?
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:22 -0400
IIRC, 6 mhz channels
At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven
element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way
shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think about the 900 MHz
antennas you see but just a little bigger for the upper UHF white space.
Ch 52 is 698 MHz. Ch
http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-FCC-votes-net-neutrality-rules-102209.aspx
I agree with most of it myself as long as it is legal, as Genowski (or
whatever) points out. How, as a (W)ISP's do we discern what is legal and what
is not? I think the FCC should turn this around and make bittorrent
Mike,
I recommend buying one gross.
We can all run but we can never hide from capacitive varactance.
jack
Mike wrote:
Rockwell Collins, over in Cedar Rapids apparently finally got the
retro encambulator perfected. It works way better than Canopy, and
makes a laughing stock of WiFi.
I just got a quote today from a HE reseller for the HE facility in
Fremont CA
$599 cabinet with 15 amps
$699 cabinet with 15 amps and 20 Megabits/sec
$899 cabinet with 15 amps and 100 megabits/sec
John
Tom DeReggi wrote:
HE even has $1250 GEs
Wow, is that transport or transit?
Yeah,
More specifically, a little town called Brooklet - an inquiry popped up on a
forum earlier about satellite/3g options and I thought I'd look into the
possibility of a wireless alternative.
TIA.
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For those that don't know him, Larry is an ex wisp all around good guy.
He's now a lawyer but I try hard not to hold that against him.
Did I say that I've known him for years and he's a great guy? Litterally
one of the founders of the WISP business.
marlon
- Original Message -
From:
A VERY good guide to the whitespaces antenna sizes... are the millions of TV
antennas we've been using for 50+ years.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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