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David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for
BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mob
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David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for
BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending ke
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> I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
> basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have
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I'm looking for a way t
It's not in CPAN but anyone who wants it can send me a request on the
members list and I'd be happy to forward it along.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
David E. Smith wrote:
Sam Tetherow wrote:
Not that it helps much, but I got you covered for most of the
RouterOS stuff. I have a perl
Something like (mt) Media Temple's new sysadmin interface for the iPhone (
http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/) would be ideal!
(except for the iPhone, and AT&T)
On 8/6/07, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell
> phone wit
lways have a laptop handy.
> But our techs always would have their Laptops
> around, thus use the AirCard.
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> Tom DeReggi
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:50 PM
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For what it's worth, Circuit City had a cheap (Everex) laptop for $349 a few
days ago. Why mess around with a small s
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John Scrivner wrote:
You really need your own OSS to
August 07, 2007 7:58 PM
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John Scrivner wrote:
>
>> You really need your own OSS to manage all of your network. We
>> looked around at smaller successful telecommunication companies and
>> fou
John Scrivner wrote:
You really need your own OSS to manage all of your network. We
looked around at smaller successful telecommunication companies and
found that all of them had a good OSS. As such, we decided to do the
same and it has been worth every penny.
-Matt
Sowhat is it?
U
You really need your own OSS to manage all of your network. We looked
around at smaller successful telecommunication companies and found
that all of them had a good OSS. As such, we decided to do the same
and it has been worth every penny.
-Matt
Sowhat is it?
Scriv
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Dave: I was involved in a similar project as yours
using Dexterra http://www.dexterra.com/ development
software. Dexterra specializes in applications for
mobile devices. They are located in Bothell
Washington.
For NOC monitoring, you may consider contacting CEO
Tom Shaw and his team at WAMS -
A hearty AMEN to that Ryan!
Key-Man life insurance is another good idea.
Jeff
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From: "Ryan Langseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:15 PM
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I am going to go off-topic here a little with a story.
I have been working for InvisiMax for a little over a year now. I do
not know who knows the history of this company for the last 1.5 years
but we are just finishing up going through a very rough stage in the
companies existence. Six months be
Matt Liotta wrote:
Is this a statement of "I've used SSH and found it wanting," or "I
haven't done this but I don't think it'd work"?
Of course I have used SSH. That was one of the applications I was
planning on using when I bought the phone. I have since learned my lesson.
Why didn't you j
For what it's worth, Circuit City had a cheap (Everex) laptop for $349
a few days ago. Why mess around with a small screen and keyboard on a
phone when you can just buy a laptop and have everything you need? :)
Travis
Microserv
Clint Ricker wrote:
Well, to chime in late and throw in my two
Well, to chime in late and throw in my two cents...
Don't bother. Back when I was in that sort of deal, I went down this road a
few times and the reality is that it is not worth it. (I've done this on
about 6 different devices and none of them are really viable for anything
more than a simple se
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Matt Liotta wrote:
> You are suggesting that there is a situation where there is a problem
> so important or complicated that only you can fix it yet you want to
> be able to fix it remotely via a cell phone at a baseball game.
David E. Smith wrote:
I refuse to tether myself to my job. I've done that over the last few
years, and I'm not doing it any longer. I do accept, though, that
there are some things that, out of the eight or so employees working
under my boss, I'm the only one who knows them. The ability to fix
Matt Liotta wrote:
You are suggesting that there is a situation
where there is a problem so important or complicated that only you can
fix it yet you want to be able to fix it remotely via a cell phone at a
baseball game.
Yup!
I refuse to tether myself to my job. I've done that over the las
David E. Smith wrote:
Ah, but I'm at the baseball game. At best, my laptop's in my car. (If
I felt like putting up with traffic, that means it's in a nearby
parking lot, ten or fifteen minutes away, plus however long it takes
me to find a wi-fi hotspot in an unfamiliar downtown area. Most of th
Honestly to find a cell phone or single device that is the prefect
sysadmin device is a pipe dream imo.
Here is one more thing for you to look at though.
http://www.oqo.com/products/model02/features.html
The price may make you jump though.
Ryan
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:37 -0400, Matt Liotta wr
Matt Liotta wrote:
And in those cases you should probably use a laptop.
Ah, but I'm at the baseball game. At best, my laptop's in my car. (If I
felt like putting up with traffic, that means it's in a nearby parking
lot, ten or fifteen minutes away, plus however long it takes me to find
a wi
Sam Tetherow wrote:
Not that it helps much, but I got you covered for most of the RouterOS
stuff. I have a perl class that uses expect to interface with the
command line interface for RouterOS.
Is it in CPAN, and if so, what's it called?
I know it doesn't quite fit into your pocket and they
Not that it helps much, but I got you covered for most of the RouterOS
stuff. I have a perl class that uses expect to interface with the
command line interface for RouterOS.
I know it doesn't quite fit into your pocket and they only work with
cingular (for cell service) but the sony vaio UX's
Mac Dearman wrote:
A real life example would be sitting at the ball park - NMS sends a text
that "whatever" is down - pick up the cell phone telnet into the "whatever"
device and take care of business. Surely you can see the simplicity in what
we are looking for, but for some reason you feel the
David E. Smith wrote:
Yeah, well, now we're kinda back to the whole "you wanna give me a new
network?" thing. If I have any say in it, any new gear will be easier
to manage, but that doesn't magically make all the old gear work that
way. I have backhaul links that only support read-only SNMP, a
hat you are doing with this thread.
Not difficult.
Mac
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:16 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on
Matt Liotta wrote:
I certainly understand your point as we have a variety of radio vendor
equipment with a variety of management interfaces. However, all of them
have SNMP interfaces, which gave us a common way to manage all of our
radios.
Yeah, well, now we're kinda back to the whole "you w
David E. Smith wrote:
The original assumption was that "replacing my whole network" was
where you were going with your statement, and I apologize for that
misinterpretation. Not that your actual suggestion of "write a bunch
of Web interfaces" is that much better...
I haven't actually suggeste
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Butch, why not the Blackjack? Does it have issues or is it more
limited than the others?
1. No touchscreen
2. It is SLOW
3. It has serious bluetooth problems
4. The "world's smallest qwerty keyboard" that they claim is the
"worlds biggest pita"
Those
Matt Liotta wrote:
Are you suggesting that you would want to SSH in via a cell phone and
adjust BGP or OSPF configs?
If the alternative is having a broken network, yes. ;)
David Smith
MVN.net
WISPA Wants You! J
Matt Liotta wrote:
It would appear you are making incorrect assumptions. Why would it cost
a lot of money? A programmer can be hired on the cheap and the amount of
work you need is small. If it cost you more than a few hundred dollars
you are over paying.
The original assumption was that "re
Adam Kennedy wrote:
While a web interface is a good idea there are times at which one
would still need to SSH into a network. I would rather not have a php
interface adjusting BGP or OSPF configs for instance.
Are you suggesting that you would want to SSH in via a cell phone and
adjust BGP or
While a web interface is a good idea there are times at which one would
still need to SSH into a network. I would rather not have a php
interface adjusting BGP or OSPF configs for instance.
Matt Liotta wrote:
David E. Smith wrote:
Hey, if you want to write a Web interface for StarOS, go right
David E. Smith wrote:
Hey, if you want to write a Web interface for StarOS, go right ahead.
I'm sure Lonnie would love you for it. :)
I don't really have any incentive to do that.
In the meantime, though, my network has a lot of things that can only
be accessed through telnet or SSH, and I ha
Matt Liotta wrote:
This is my point from yesterday. These devices are designed to work well
with web-based applications. You will spend far less time and money
interfacing them with such.
Hey, if you want to write a Web interface for StarOS, go right ahead.
I'm sure Lonnie would love you for
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>
> Felix A. Lopez wrote:
> > Dave/Mike: Handango has a bevy of software and
>
David E. Smith wrote:
I need, specifically, a working "Ctrl" key, and key chording. I
couldn't find any Windows Mobile SSH client that supported those (when
I started on this project a few weeks back, I tested substantially all
of 'em). Can anyone confirm/deny whether there's one that works tha
Felix A. Lopez wrote:
Dave/Mike: Handango has a bevy of software and
"handheld applications". See weblink below
http://www.handango.com/home.jsp?siteId=1
Okay, now let's poke at details...
I need, specifically, a working "Ctrl" key, and key chording. I couldn't
find any Windows Mobile SSH
eneral List"
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Alltell is all CDMA. They have acquired a couple companies that were GSM,
but they pretty quickly migrate custoemrs to CDMA handsets and replace the
equipment at the towers.
Allte
: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally,
something I could take to a baseball
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I think the Alltel network around us is all GSM based which would mean, I
would as
Dave/Mike: Handango has a bevy of software and
"handheld applications". See weblink below
http://www.handango.com/home.jsp?siteId=1
F.
--- "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Hammett wrote:
> > I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the
> way to go, but I haven't
> > tried
I think the Alltel network around us is all GSM based which would mean,
I would assume, that we could load a SIM card into any unlocked GSM
device and use it on their network. Any reason why I might be wrong with
this thinking? Anyone ever load a SIM card from an unlocked device for
use on thei
e Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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Mike Hammett wrote:
I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the way to go, b
Mike Hammett wrote:
I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the way to go, but I haven't
tried it.
The device would probably work, but Sprint's coverage around here is
atrocious. (My personal phone is on Sprint, and it doesn't work reliably
at about half of our tower locations, for instan
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:06 PM
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I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic
stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something
I could take to a baseball game with me, even.
John Valenti wrote:
This is totally in the other direction of having a full keyboard, but
you might look at the Nokia 770 and 800. The 770's are on discount now,
for about $150. Someone showed me theirs last week. It is more geared
toward Wi-Fi connections, but would connect to the net thru
David,
This is totally in the other direction of having a full keyboard, but
you might look at the Nokia 770 and 800. The 770's are on discount
now, for about $150. Someone showed me theirs last week. It is more
geared toward Wi-Fi connections, but would connect to the net thru
bluetoot
Matt Liotta wrote:
What do you call a Blackberry and Motorola Q other than a cell phone?
Well, if you want to poke at semantics... ;)
My intent was to imply that "full QWERTY keyboard" good, "standard phone
keypad with only twelve or so buttons" bad.
Just for playing, I did play with midps
Matt Liotta wrote:
Again, I think a web-based system would be better. For example, you
could on the cheap write a PHP script to SSH into something and reboot
it all while presenting a web interface to your mobile. Safe and effective!
That implies my ability to write a PHP script with "click h
JohnnyO wrote:
I've used my Cingular 8125 to do SSH and Web based management I have
not looked into what upgrades they have for this but it's been nice at
times.
What SSH client are you using? (And does the keyboard actually have a
Ctrl key?)
It's likely I'll still be stuck with a Black
Butch, why not the Blackjack? Does it have issues or is it more limited
than the others?
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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:33 PM
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David E. Smith wrote:
It's not so much a "network management system" as it is "a
six-year-old copy of WhatsUp Gold."
That might be worth looking into then.
The most complicated thing I'm likely to try with one is rebooting it,
but even that requires logging into something via SSH (either the
John Scrivner wrote:
We are not looking at a cell phone. We are looking for a device with a
very small keyboard as you can see by his request...
Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile
device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network.
What do you c
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Matt Liotta wrote:
If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell phone
with a decent browser should do
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David E. Smith wrote:
I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you.
Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.
I'd suggest an IPAQ or similar type palmtop pc. I know
Matt Liotta wrote:
If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell
phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine
wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to
have a typo on something important.
It's not so much a "network ma
Matt Liotta wrote:
If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell
phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine
wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to
have a typo on something important.
-Matt
We are not looking at
If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell
phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine
wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to
have a typo on something important.
-Matt
David E. Smith wrote:
I'm looking for a way
I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally,
something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.
A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's
likely to double as a pass-arou
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