Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-04-01 Thread Alan Cain
Quite so. Very true. Tom DeReggi wrote: The idea is to put yourself in a spot that you won't feel the squeeze. When enough of your gear is paid for, enough of your cell sites are traded, once you've reached a scale to have rock bottom bandwidth, and spread your business around without all you

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
Charles, Intersting answer/perspective. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:23 AM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-31 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: They call EVERY number in that area Not just your customers. This simply shows the level of desperation that they have. I don't see it as desperation. I see it as aggressive marketing. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
happens, they will be far more loyal in the days to come. marlon - Original Message - From: "Alan Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? George Rogato wrote: Travis J

RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-31 Thread Charles Wu
l business owner main source of cash is its subscriber base Clearwire's main source of cash is Venture Capital / Wall Street -Charles From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of George Rogato Sent: Fri 3/30/2007 2:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] M

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
competitive markets. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Alan Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread George Rogato
Alan Cain wrote: What speeds and price were you offering that they picked of most of your subs? 40.00 per month, 3 Mbps (actual). And we do offer hand holding, antivirus filtering, spam filtering and usually free truck rolls for problems (we only charge for the most clearly definable "not

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Alan Cain
Dylan Oliver wrote: What exactly is it you're going to file against this student? That is the question, isn't it. I am not a lawyer. Just pissed. I could file him with a nice rasp. (that is a joke) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailma

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Peter R.
Loved your service buy left? They didn't really know what they had then. Do you combat these special offers with a mailing comparing the real billing from Qwest with yours? Plus add in the extras plus add in the time for one service call to Qwest per billing period. Alan Cain wrote: 40.00 pe

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Dylan Oliver
What exactly is it you're going to file against this student? -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Alan Cain
Dylan Oliver wrote: Alan, You offer wireless service at $40/mo, don't you? I'm surprised that anyone left you for $2.50 a month. Inertia alone is worth far more to people .. especially when it comes to things like changing internet addresses, and the prospect of having to learn something new.

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Travis Johnson
I have a suggestion for you... your pricing is currently at $40/month. That's the same price we had for the previous 4 years and we just changed it... to $39.95 and guess what? It made a huge difference. We changed all of our existing customers, and made all the changes on all of our other acco

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Alan Cain
George Rogato wrote: Alan Cain wrote: And quoting unit prices is fully effective enough. One of my POPs has gone from 20 customers to 1 customer, as Qwest has aggressively targeted the area with phone calls to each (!) of my customers 4, 5 and 6 times a week, offering 1.7 Mbps service for 3

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread Dylan Oliver
Alan, You offer wireless service at $40/mo, don't you? I'm surprised that anyone left you for $2.50 a month. Inertia alone is worth far more to people .. especially when it comes to things like changing internet addresses, and the prospect of having to learn something new. How fast is your servic

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
Alan Cain wrote: And quoting unit prices is fully effective enough. One of my POPs has gone from 20 customers to 1 customer, as Qwest has aggressively targeted the area with phone calls to each (!) of my customers 4, 5 and 6 times a week, offering 1.7 Mbps service for 37.50/month. The contra

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Alan Cain
George Rogato wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: I agree with almost everything you said... except the "triple play" revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... bu

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Clint Ricker
I agree with almost everything you said... except the "triple play" revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Their introductory price is $99 per month, but they are most likely counting on people bumping up a tier in DSL

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
Travis Johnson wrote: I agree with almost everything you said... except the "triple play" revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... but ClearWire is wirele

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Travis Johnson
I agree with almost everything you said... except the "triple play" revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... but ClearWire is wireless... all the equipment

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Clint Ricker
Just some general thoughts on large corporations, financing, and business. While Peter's analysis about silos and funding sources is right on, I'm going to skirt that discussion because it isn't a meaningful discussion on a superficial level. How do they make money? (Well, if they do make money

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Travis Johnson
The problem with that is eventually all of those income sources (IPO, credit line, investors, etc.) dry up... and then you are left with revenue to try and pay all the others (hardware, long term and monthly debt, etc.). It can work, but I just don't see it in this industry. With $30/month acco

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Peter R.
I've spent much of this year analyzing the financials of Vonage and other companies. I just finished looking at VZ. (http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2007/03/vz-spending-billions.html) The numbers make no sense. But then under GAAP accounting its all about putting your numbers in the proper silo and

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread George Rogato
half Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? The cellular business was different 2-3 years ago... before number portability... Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: Hes basically emulating the Cellular Biz

RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Brad Belton
Or possibly called BGP... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? Yea there is, its call DNS Ryan On Wed, 2007

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Travis Johnson
band Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? The cellular business was different 2-3 years ago

RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Ryan Langseth
s Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw

RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Gino Villarini
] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? The cellular business was different 2-3 years ago... before number portability... Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: Hes basically emulating the Cellular

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Travis Johnson
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? Smart people sometimes do foolish things. However, he isnt the dumbest guy in the world either

RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread Gino Villarini
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? Smart people sometimes do foolish things. However, he isnt the dumbest guy in the world either. So what is his bet? Why would a guy who cut his teeth in cellular come out so hard against the cell carriers with a new

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread ccooper
Smart people sometimes do foolish things. However, he isnt the dumbest guy in the world either. So what is his bet? Why would a guy who cut his teeth in cellular come out so hard against the cell carriers with a new wireless product? chris Quoting Ryan Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Just