[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
Agreed. It amazes me how little people know about the telecommunications
infrastructure in their area.
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Mike
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Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
LOL! Ya, we had some overly optimistic carriers alright. Trying to get T1's
at cell towers in the middle of cornfield was a challenge. But wait, it gets
: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
In my previous life as an ATT Cellular switch manager, we had
hundreds of T1's T3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean
never. And we practically had a blank check!
-RickG
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
In my previous life as an ATT Cellular switch manager, we had
hundreds of T1's T3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean
never. And we practically had a blank check!
-RickG
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh
Cornfield 3, Grain street, Rural USA comes to mind.
Richard
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Hehe! Thats what I said!
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Cornfield 3, Grain street, Rural USA comes to mind.
Richard
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
LOL! Ya, we had some overly optimistic carriers alright. Trying to get
T1's at cell towers in the middle of cornfield was a challenge. But
wait, it gets better - E911 came along and we had to get addresses for
the tower
I do. ;-)
The difference, however, is that our livelihoods are telecommunications
and far too often people don't know what's around them.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 7/20/2010 11:24 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Well .. it is like plumbing
The most cost effective form of transport that an ISP / WISP can
purchase from a Carrier (ILEC or Cable Co or another type of provider)
would be Ethernet ..
100Meg or Gig E While these are un-regulated services, which means
an ILEC's can exercise their discretion on providing this type of
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
The most cost effective form of transport that an ISP / WISP can
purchase from a Carrier (ILEC
Very true. I'll add that my story is 4 years old, and the T3s mentioned
have already or are being switched to Ethernet services. Didn't help
that it took 9 months to finally get a hold of a Charter wholesale/ISP
rep. :-| It also took us 6-7 months from yes send me the contract to
turn-up with
.
End of conversation.
Sucks.
Me-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
Agreed. It amazes me how
After about a year of getting the same response from ATT after multiple
order requests at different locations across our network, the guy in
charge of building out fiber for the region called and said what in the
world are you guys doing?!? He ended up giving us the location of a
few fiber
We used Charter fiber for PTP and Internet Access for a few years, a
few years ago.
It was OK. Way more outages than the SBC DS3 that we had at the time.
(a few hours of planned or unplanned downtime in the middle of the
night every month)
Pricing was far better than SBC.
We dropped them once we
Very good experience with them here. Best pricing available out in the
boondocks of MN. They own the tower where the fiber pop is, so or PtP
link on that side is no rent.
They do average a short outage every 6 weeks or so for upgrades and
such, but the last notice I got was for BGP tables so
Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my
business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could
order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so.
Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without
huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000
100meg metro e is running 3000.00 here.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my
business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could
order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so.
100meg metro e is running 3000.00 here.
What are you paying for your DS3? We are nearing the point of moving
to OC3's at both locations and the loops are outrageous. This is on
ATT as well.
100meg metro e is running 3000.00 here.
Ugh, right now paying quite a bit more for 45mbps DS3.
Wish I could get that here...100Mbps where I'm at is closer to $8000.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
100meg
In my previous life as an ATT Cellular switch manager, we had
hundreds of T1's T3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean
never. And we practically had a blank check!
-RickG
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:
After about a year of getting the same
I have been quietly watching this discussion
I don't claim to be an expert, but being a wire line ISP, let me add /
clarify some thoughts / facts
T1 / T3 or DS3 / OC3 are all TDM / Legacy services
T1, can be extended (long distance) via field repeaters... (T1's are
based on
At 7/20/2010 06:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
I have been quietly watching this discussion
I don't claim to be an expert, but being a wire line ISP, let me add /
clarify some thoughts / facts
T1 / T3 or DS3 / OC3 are all TDM / Legacy services
That really shouldn't matter. The
To sum it up
Location, location, location.
:)
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:56 PM
To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you
Agreed. It amazes me how little people know about the
telecommunications infrastructure in their area.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 7/20/2010 5:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
I have been quietly watching this discussion
I don't claim to be
It amazes me how little people know about telecommunications
infrastructure - or lack thereof.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
Agreed. It amazes me how little people know about the
telecommunications infrastructure in their area.
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Mike
Well .. it is like plumbing
How many of us know the Plumbing and Drainage infrastructure in our
areas ?
(Myself very little, cause I don't have to deal with it... :) )
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305
But, if you're a plumber!?!? Now, to be fair, I've never claimed to be
an expert nor expect to ever do so. Then again, not too many expert
plumbers either :)
Now, back to the outage list!
-RickG
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote:
Well .. it is like
I am paying close to $1200/mth here for 6 Mbit on metro-e. Located at
middle TN/KY border.
Scott
100meg metro e is running 3000.00 here.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my
business on T1
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