Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

2008-05-20 Thread James Jeffery
There are a number of ways to get tasks done on the intnernet. Some hard core programmers would use plain old C and CGI. As for PHP Standards, follow the manual and best practices. Get a book on design patterns, especially the one by the Gang Of Four, as these patterns can crossover to the

Re: [WSG] firefox 3 beta5

2008-05-20 Thread Korny Sietsma
I have had problems running FF2 on a machine also running FF3 - specifically, and fatally for me, FireBug wouldn't install cleanly in FF2 if I had FF3 running. I'd load FF3 in a vmware image, or maybe test it with an Ubuntu 8.04 live CD. Note that beta 5 at least is still rather unstable. I've

Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

2008-05-20 Thread Matijs
I haven't had time to look into other frameworks but make sure to check out Zend as well. It's at version 1.5.2. at this time and it has a nice built-in templating system. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:05 AM, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a number of ways to get tasks done on

RE: [WSG] firefox 3 beta5

2008-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
Korny Sietsma Release Candidate 1 is out now, so hopefully things will get more stable when Ubuntu picks it up, but at the moment it's a world of pain - at least for my configuration! Beta5 and RC1 have been rock-solid on my systems (WinXP). And, as far as I understand, RC1 is fairly

Re: [WSG] firefox 3 beta5

2008-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/05/20 18:27 (GMT+1000) Korny Sietsma apparently typed: I have had problems running FF2 on a machine also running FF3 - specifically, and fatally for me, FireBug wouldn't install cleanly in FF2 if I had FF3 running. Did you ever think to try closing the other long enough to get it to

Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

2008-05-20 Thread Ian Chamberlain
Thanks for all the tips folks, very useful. In response to Michael, I have just escaped the large corporate, global enterprise world that seems to fund much of the IT work done and in my experience most such organisations are only just now waking up to the concept and benefits of open source.

Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Pruim
Hey Ian, Sorry for coming in late in this thread, but I would like to recommend the php.net site and their mailing lists as well. I am a subscriber to a few of their lists and am just learning the language, but the people who post to the php-general list are some of the most knowledgeable

[WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Rob Enslin
Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to use with quotes? These are actual comments made by folk during a show. For example: q pqLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an exciting 7 new products which our customers loved. LIW is a great event to

Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Rob Enslin wrote: Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to use with quotes? These are actual comments made by folk during a show. For example: q pqLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an exciting 7 new products which our customers loved. LIW

Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread David Dorward
On 20 May 2008, at 16:13, Rob Enslin wrote: Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to use with quotes? These are actual comments made by folk during a show. You are quoting paragraphs, use blockquote. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 20-May-08, at 8:43 PM, Rob Enslin wrote: Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to use with quotes? The most appropriate tag to use is the blockquote element. I would mark up your content like so: blockquote pLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We

Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Rob Enslin
That's pretty clear. Many thanks Robert, David and Rahul. 2008/5/20 Rahul Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 20-May-08, at 8:43 PM, Rob Enslin wrote: Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to use with quotes? The most appropriate tag to use is the blockquote

[WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Julián Landerreche
A workmate come with this idea, which then I have searched on web and haven't found too much information about it, but this: [1] and [2]. The idea: using fieldset and legend for adding structural markup/labes [3]. It seems that using fieldsets _outside_ forms doesn't make the code to invalidate.

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Grant
Hello Julian, If you are unsure about what an HTML tag is there for, look up in the W3C specs. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-FIELDSET It is pretty clear to me there that fieldset element exists for the purpose of grouping form elements together, and not for other

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Svip
What if your fieldset is intended for an AJAX application? And thus will not require a form (as your data is not sent through the form, but is picked up by javascript)? Indeed, my opinion is that a fieldset should only contain form elements, but not necessarily be inside a form tag. I do

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Grant
Needless to say that your application should progressively enhancehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Enhancementthrough the presentation layers. So, irrespective of what technology (or mix of technologies) you are using, the basic (X)HTML page should make total sense with everything (images,

[WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Julián Landerreche
@Jason and @Svip quoted: Svip wrote: I do disagree with Julián's approach. Also, if I may add, strong should only be used as an inline element (you cannot really compare hN with strong, headlines are block elements, while strong is inline) and only in a case where you have a strong point to

Re: [WSG] firefox 3 beta5

2008-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/05/21 07:43 (GMT+1000) Korny Sietsma apparently typed: Sorry, I didn't mean if I had FF3 running - I had it *installed* but not running. And maybe I could have made it work, but I was under time pressure. I just installed FF2 through Ubuntu's standard apt system, and I'd hoped that it

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Julian, strong is for emphasis. I am on your side on that one. divs are for separating components/sections of a page and can be semantically very strong, especially when given a meaningful class or id name (e.g. header, footer, contacts, product, etc.) fieldset however is quite specifically

Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Ray
This question was asked less a week ago, here was my reply: The W3C has an example of the use of the cite and quote elements here: http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/xhtml2/spec-examples/mod-text/cite -ex01.xhtml Or you can read all about quotations here:

[WSG] global site list...

2008-05-20 Thread Naveen Bhaskar
hi , anybody can suggest me a best way to show global site links in one page.. I have around 70 countries to list out. -- navii - thanks and regards Naveen Bhaskar Menon ***