[WSG] CSS foul-up in IE. Trying to implement Myers "pure css pop-up" code

2005-12-11 Thread morten fjellman
Hi list.I'm trying to implement Eric Myers css code for pop-up text on hover, but are having difficulties making it work in IE (I have been successful before so I don't get this). On hover all the span tags that contain a seperator in the form of | to the right of the link are being moved a few pix

Re: [WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-09 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/9/05, Srecko Micic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, hmmm I try it with java disabled in IE, and it still works. That's what I thought. Of course, if your users don't have DirectX, the filter won't work, but what's the likelihood of that? -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... r

Re: [WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-09 Thread Srecko Micic
Well, hmmm I try it with java disabled in IE, and it still works. 2005/12/9, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 12/8/05, Matthew Cruickshank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Srecko Micic wrote: > > > But what if Java is disabled in browser ? > > > > Then it won't work anyway, because all me

Re: [WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-08 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/8/05, Matthew Cruickshank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Srecko Micic wrote: > > But what if Java is disabled in browser ? > > Then it won't work anyway, because all methods I've seen use > progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader() which is itself a > call via Javascript. > > (fairly

Re: [WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-08 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Srecko Micic wrote: But what if Java is disabled in browser ? Then it won't work anyway, because all methods I've seen use progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader() which is itself a call via Javascript. (fairly sure that's the case) .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/

Re: [WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-08 Thread Srecko Micic
But what if Java is disabled in browser ? Maybe you should try this then -> http://koivi.com/ie-png-transparency/ 2005/12/8, Matthew Cruickshank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Artemis wrote: > > If anyone knows anything about this htc file, if it would be good to > > use, how exactly it works, and where I

Re: [WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-07 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Artemis wrote: If anyone knows anything about this htc file, if it would be good to use, how exactly it works, and where I might find a bit more information about it I would be ever so appreciative :) http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/pngbehavior/pngbehavior.html .Matthew Cruickshank http://hollow

[WSG] CSS - Fixing PNG Transparency Issues in IE?

2005-12-07 Thread Artemis
I was reading Matt's WordPress blog and noticed at the bottom of the page he has an up arrow so you can click to go up, so I tried peeking at his css with the Web Developer Toolbar so I could see how he did it. But, something else caught my attention. I noticed in his other.css file that he has

RE: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content

2005-12-06 Thread Chris Harrington
ECTED] On Behalf Of Barrie North > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:45 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content > > That is a nice script Richard. I have spent a while trying to > get this one > to work, I

RE: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content - SOLVED

2005-12-06 Thread Barrie North
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content That is a nice script Richard. I have spent a while trying to get this one to work, I am sure its something obvious sigh http://www.compassdesigns.net/4corners/NASCAR_Champions.html Its only breaking in IE

RE: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content

2005-12-06 Thread Barrie North
www.compassdesigns.net ~Professional, affordable web design~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Stephenson Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:26 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content Hi

Re: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content

2005-12-06 Thread Richard Stephenson
Hi Barry not sure if this would be what you were after but i have just published an article about creating a DOM pagejump menu that works on all modern browsers and degrades back to a list of links if there is no javascript support. http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk/index.php?story=67. Thought it that

[WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content

2005-12-05 Thread Barrie North
Hi, I seem to be having a problem with a CSS drop down list box, it isn't properly floating over the content below it. http://www.compassdesigns.net/4corners/photoessay2.html If anyone could take a look and offer some help, that would be great!! Barrie North Compass Design www.compassdesigns.ne

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-12-01 Thread Steve Ferguson
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Alan Trick wrote: Is there a problem with this: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-28 Thread Steve Ferguson
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Alan Trick wrote: Is there a problem with this: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we

RE: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-28 Thread Geoff Pack
Alan Trick wrote: > Is there a problem with this: > http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html > Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we can't find any alternatives. Thanks also for the o

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-28 Thread Alan Trick
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 12:42 +1100, Geoff Pack wrote: > Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) > that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local > network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is > not available

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-28 Thread Alan Trick
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 12:42 +1100, Geoff Pack wrote: > Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) > that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local > network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is > not available

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-28 Thread Christian Peper
Geoff Pack wrote: Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is not available for download. Topstyle, either freeware

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-27 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On Nov 23, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is not available for download

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-27 Thread Steve Ferguson
On Nov 27, 2005, at 7:44 PM, Peter Williams wrote: Geoff Pack wrote: ...install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? From: Steve Ferguson What don't you want to use the W3C one? "...files on my local network", if you're working on an intranet you can't use the

RE: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-27 Thread Peter Williams
> Geoff Pack wrote: > > ...install on an local server to batch check files > > on my local network? > From: Steve Ferguson > > What don't you want to use the W3C one? "...files on my local network", if you're working on an intranet you can't use the w3c validators, unless you cut and paste, or

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-27 Thread Steve Ferguson
What don't you want to use the W3C one? On Nov 23, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but th

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-23 Thread Jhondie Abenaza
You can try using HTML-kit & try to install the plugin for w3c css validatorhere is the link http://www.chami.com, hope this will help you.regardsJhondie AbenazaGeoff Pack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an l

RE: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-23 Thread Paul Noone
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Pack Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:43 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS Validators Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We

[WSG] CSS Validators

2005-11-23 Thread Geoff Pack
Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is not available for download. Cheers Geoff Pack

Re: [WSG] CSS equivalent for image alignment

2005-11-21 Thread Neal Watkins
vertical-align: top middle or bottom (middle may be center) Quoting Ben Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi all, What is the CSS way of setting the align attribute of to middle? e.g., I just want to align text to the middle of an button image sitting on the same line instead of to the bott

[WSG] CSS equivalent for image alignment

2005-11-21 Thread Ben Wong
Hi all, What is the CSS way of setting the align attribute of to middle? e.g., I just want to align text to the middle of an button image sitting on the same line instead of to the bottom of it. TIA -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net *

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread James Ellis
Hi This has been discussed on the list before but the quick answer to URL's generated by PHP automatically  (like its session handler) is to use ini_set("arg_separator.output", "&");See : http://php.mirrors.ilisys.com.au/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.arg-separator.outputIf you generate URL's m

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread Alan Trick
Another issue: this may be caused by ussing sessions. When PHP manages sessions using GET queries as opposed to Cookies it might do this to your. What it does is appends &PHPSESSION= to the end of your urls, by default the & is *not* escaped. There's a way (in php.ini I think) to fix it. Check http

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread Katrina
designer wrote: H All, I've been having a little bother with validation of my PHP generated pages. I'm new to PHP/mySQL and I'm finding that some peculiar things happen, such as and appear in the middle of the code. (???) Also, I find that submitting a URL such as: $myurl="testdate.php?h

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread designer
Thank you Gentlemen, Very helpful as always! (I mean it!) -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelin

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread Bert Doorn
Tim Burgan wrote: Just a quick note that'll help: In the URL, the special characters (such as ampersands, question marks, etc) need to be converted to html character entities. Question marks do not need to be converted. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:09:42 +, designer wrote: > I've been having a little bother with validation of my PHP generated > pages. I'm new to PHP/mySQL and I'm finding that some peculiar things > happen, such as and appear in the middle of the code. > (???) Also, I find that submitting a URL

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread Tim Burgan
Just a quick note that'll help: In the URL, the special characters (such as ampersands, question marks, etc) need to be converted to html character entities. You can find entity codes from: http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm For example: ampersand can be & or & question mark is ? Therefore yo

RE: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread Patrick Lauke
> designer > I'm new to PHP/mySQL and I'm finding that some peculiar things > happen, such as and appear in the middle of the code. Difficult to know without seeing a URL and the associated PHP code. Sound like an error in the PHP to me, though... > $myurl="testdate.php?houseID=$housename&ch

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread The Visual Process
I'm not clued up on php or mySQL but if you use amersands then you need to display it as such & otherwise it wont validate. designer wrote: H All, I've been having a little bother with validation of my PHP generated pages. I'm new to PHP/mySQL and I'm finding that some peculiar things ha

[WSG] CSS and PHP

2005-11-14 Thread designer
H All, I've been having a little bother with validation of my PHP generated pages. I'm new to PHP/mySQL and I'm finding that some peculiar things happen, such as and appear in the middle of the code. (???) Also, I find that submitting a URL such as: $myurl="testdate.php?houseID=$housename

RE: [WSG] CSS filesize and selector names

2005-11-11 Thread Geoff Pack
Anders Nawroth wrote: > Mixing lower/uppercase enhances readability, just remember to > write it the same way everywhere, class names and ID's are case > sensitive. I tend to prefer hyphens, like #btn-save > hyphens? bah! .realCoders use #camelCase ***

Re: [WSG] CSS filesize and selector names

2005-11-10 Thread Lloyd
It is a double edged sword. If you split your CSS sheet into multiple sheets for each page then you will only be making the user download what they need, but if they visit all the pages they will probably need to download more in total. That 10k will add about 2 seconds to the initial load of your

Re: [WSG] CSS filesize and selector names

2005-11-10 Thread Vishwam Annam
You could use, these CSS optimizers to reduce the file size a little bit, http://cdburnerxp.se/cssparse/css_optimiser.php http://flumpcakes.co.uk/css/optimiser/ Vishwam Anders Nawroth wrote: Hejsan! [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: This has made my CSS file nearly 10kb large and consists of near

Re: [WSG] CSS filesize and selector names

2005-11-10 Thread Anders Nawroth
Hejsan! [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: This has made my CSS file nearly 10kb large and consists of nearly 600 rows of CSS code. Is this a problem in general? No. Are there any issues regarding large CSS files? Any recomendations for CSS file sizes both in KB and rows. When hitting 40 KB I thin

Re: [WSG] CSS filesize and selector names

2005-11-10 Thread felix . zapata
hi, about your first question sometimes I do some css files; one with de principal layout and the other with the specific of each page. About the second question, i think that there is no problem about use underscore in the name, but sometimes css validator tell me warnings about that. Quot

[WSG] CSS filesize and selector names

2005-11-10 Thread jorgen
Hey folks! I'm working on a project where nearly every web page differs from each other in layout. Due to the nature of the project, it is a blend of admin and report system, with a lot of configurations and various styled reports. This has made my CSS file nearly 10kb large and consists of nearly

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Richard Czeiger
attributes. R :o) - Original Message - From: "Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net)|(http://board.mcville.net)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax) My point exactly

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Samuel Richardson
riginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jad Madi Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2005 6:17 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax) Hi, any idea if it's possible to create menu like this one pure css without JS ? http://d

RE: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Paul Noone
Damn these infernal acronyms. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2005 9:10 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax) Paul Noone wrote: > Using a PNG you co

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Paul Noone wrote: Using a PNG you could achieve a similar effect. Did you mean SVG? -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.p

RE: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Paul Noone
AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax) Hi, any idea if it's possible to create menu like this one pure css without JS ? http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.html if yes, please shot a kickstart -- Regards Jad madi Blog http://EasyHTT

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net)|(http://board.mcville.net)
My point exactly why not use JS ? 2005/11/8, Wayne Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That has about as much to do with AJAX as my mother does. > > Whats wrong with using the fisheye widget? Dojo code is standards compliant, > effiecient JS. Why would you try to do something like that in _pure_ CSS? I

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Wayne Douglas
That has about as much to do with AJAX as my mother does.   Whats wrong with using the fisheye widget? Dojo code is standards compliant, effiecient JS. Why would you try to do something like that in _pure_ CSS? If your going to do that you might as well try to do it in plain text aswell.   HTH   w

[WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Jad Madi
Hi, any idea if it's possible to create menu like this one pure css without JS ? http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.html if yes, please shot a kickstart -- Regards Jad madi Blog http://EasyHTTP.com/jad/ Web standards Planet http://W3planet.net/ *

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Carolyn Diaz
The closest I've seen in css can be found at http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/expand.html. Good luck! CarolynOn 11/8/05, Jad Madi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,any idea if it's possible to create menu like this one pure css without JS ?http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.ht

[WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Jad Madi
Hi, any idea if it's possible to create menu like this one pure css without JS ? http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.html if yes, please shot a kickstart -- Regards Jad madi Blog http://EasyHTTP.com/jad/ Web standards Planet http://W3planet.net/ *

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-05 Thread Andy Kirkwood|Motive
Hi Sarah, >Unfortunately the exact wording of the content (in this client's case) >is legally required, and so the possibility of editing it, or the >references, in any way is out of the question. Moving the title of the reference to the fore of the title attribute value wouldn't be changing the

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-05 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I like the idea of linking back to the content once the reader has read the relevant footnote, but there are many instances when more than one footnote is attributed to a portion of the content (see example below). Also, the same footnote reference is referred to in different portions of t

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-05 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Andy Thank you for your input. Unfortunately the exact wording of the content (in this client's case) is legally required, and so the possibility of editing it, or the references, in any way is out of the question. I like the idea of linking back to the content once the reader has read the re

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-05 Thread Andy Kirkwood|Motive
Hi Sarah, >I was just looking for a way to give the user immediate feedback about >each reference, and thought the title may be useful. > >The problem with linking back and forth is that there are *so* many >references on each page, sometimes two or three to each quote, so it >gets a bit messy. P

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-04 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Josh Thanks very much for your reply. I should have mentioned that we will also be listing the entire references in the footer as well. I was just looking for a way to give the user immediate feedback about each reference, and thought the title may be useful. The problem with linking back an

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-04 Thread Joshua Street
I honestly don't think this is the best solution for you, especially if you're doing academic papers. For two reasons: 1) because it's impossible to get titles to "display" in a normal browser without JavaScript, and; 2) if someone prints out your page they don't get any citations at all. Well, yo

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-04 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Dustin Thanks for your link - impressive titles! Just wondered, is it possible to have them degrade when javascript is disabled, so that at least in IE WIN (for eg) the user sees the normal title? At present, if I disable javascript in FF (mac) I don't get any titles at all. Regards Sarah --

Re: [WSG] css title styles

2005-11-04 Thread Dustin Diaz
I had created a pretty nifty library for displaying titles just not too long ago called "Sweet Titles" which had became quite a hit: http://www.dustindiaz.com/sweet-titles/ They were tested to work across IE6, Moz1.0+, Opera 7+, Safari 1.3 Hope this helps, Dustin On 11/4/05, Sarah Peeke (XERT)

[WSG] css title styles

2005-11-04 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi all I am trying to find a web standards compliant way of styling a title for a description of references within an article. Eg: 7 If I use the above example the full reference is obviously truncated as "title" has a predetermined maximum width. I have found a css/javascript example:

Re: [WSG] CSS Block for menu buttons Active Area in IE.

2005-10-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gareth Houston wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have created a very basic CSS Menu. I am having a problem with the > active area for the link. In Firefox the block acts as the link and a > rollover effect is given when the cursor is over any part of the > block, which is what i want. In IE the text only

[WSG] CSS Block for menu buttons Active Area in IE.

2005-10-24 Thread Gareth Houston
Hi Everyone, I have created a very basic CSS Menu. I am having a problem with the active area for the link. In Firefox the block acts as the link and a rollover effect is given when the cursor is over any part of the block, which is what i want. In IE the text only is active part and not the rest

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-15 Thread Mordechai Peller
Peter Ottery wrote: fwiw, I forgot about testing in IE4 about 3 years ago. I still like to make things look "ok" in IE5.0 but if some text is butting up against the edge of a container due to it not supporting some float issue or something, i dont worry about it. Its usually a better story with I

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-15 Thread Mordechai Peller
Geoff Pack wrote: Sure. But if you are only testing your own sites, and not surfing the web with them, then it shouldn't be much of a risk. Assuming the site hasn't been hacked, there should be ZERO additional risk beyond just being connected. **

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-14 Thread Mark Harris
Mark Harris wrote: I can think of 2 secure ways to use IE/windows to test webpages: 1 run a webserver on a separate box _inside_ your firewall and install your pages there for testing - stack a firewall between the systems if you need to test that. 2 run VirtualPC (or some other windows

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-14 Thread Mark Harris
Peter Ottery wrote: Peter Firminger wrote: Not at all recommended on any machine you care about. Just for my own peace of mind tho - they're only a security issue when you have launched the program right? so if i'm launching them (old standalone IE5 & 5.5) once a month to *only* test pages t

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Joshua Street
Yeah, the main risk is in the OS/Browser integration thing. And, since those versions are standalone, they're "safer" than IE6... plus your usage patterns for it will be different.On 10/14/05, Peter Ottery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just for my own peace of mind tho - they're only a security issue

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Ottery
Peter Firminger wrote: > Not at all recommended on any machine you care about. Just for my own peace of mind tho - they're only a security issue when you have launched the program right? so if i'm launching them (old standalone IE5 & 5.5) once a month to *only* test pages that I've created - I'm n

RE: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Geoff Pack
2:18 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: RE: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5 > > > But they may make your system vulnerable as they are not > patched. There's a > very good reason Microsoft doesn't publish these for > developers or anyone > else. > >

RE: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
But they may make your system vulnerable as they are not patched. There's a very good reason Microsoft doesn't publish these for developers or anyone else. Not at all recommended on any machine you care about. P > Standalone versions of IE 4 and IE 5 are available at > http://browsers.evolt.org/

Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Ottery
Rhys wrote: > But with the implementations in ie6 and the ones to come in ie7 perhaps its > time to finally stop worrying about ie 4/5 you're the only one that can take on that issue and make a decision for *your* site. Different sites require different decisions. Examine your logs and weigh them

RE: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Geoff Pack
ys Burnie > Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005 1:52 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5 > > > I am interested in the current opinion of the relevance of css hacks > for explorer 4.0.x & 5.0.x specifically in regards to the Box Model > Hack. >

[WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Rhys Burnie
I am interested in the current opinion of the relevance of css hacks for explorer 4.0.x & 5.0.x specifically in regards to the Box Model Hack. I understand the problem associated with the box model in ie4 & 5 but have begun to question the need for hacks in your css for these browser versions. In

RE: [WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Drake, Ted C.
If all heck is breaking loose on your floated objects in IE. Add position:relative and it may cure the problem. Sure, it is better to break it all down and try a more bullet-proof design. But sometimes its better to just go with the quick fix. Ted -Original Message- Adam Morris wrot

Re: [WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Adam Morris wrote: What is this bug in IE/Win that you need "position: relative;" for? Parts of the float that's overflowing the outer container when pulled like this, will become invisible. -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Adam Morris
That's great! Using margins instead of relative positioning has placed the image in IE Mac too! What is this bug in IE/Win that you need "position: relative;" for? On 05/10/05, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam Morris wrote: > > Is there a way to accurately and seamlessly position t

Re: [WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Adam Morris wrote: Is there a way to accurately and seamlessly position this image over the background? http://www.janelehrer.co.uk/uwish/girls.html .tornpic { width:350px; height:316px; float: right; margin: -113px -24px 0 0; background: url(tornpic0.jpg) no-repeat; position: relative; }

Re: [WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Adam Morris
BTW the floated page is here: http://www.janelehrer.co.uk/uwish1/girls.html On 05/10/05, Adam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to seemingly use this group to have a conversation with myself > but I have been working on my problem and floated the image within the > wrapper and then used r

Re: [WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Adam Morris
Sorry to seemingly use this group to have a conversation with myself but I have been working on my problem and floated the image within the wrapper and then used relative positioning! Is this a valid method? The site works in IE for PC and Safari and Firefox for Mac. In Mac IE, though, the relative

[WSG] Css fluid but accurate positioning

2005-10-05 Thread Adam Morris
Is there a way to accurately and seamlessly position this image over the background? At the moment, a percentage left position doesn't quite do the job. Or am I barking up the wrong tree? http://www.janelehrer.co.uk/uwish/girls.html ** The discus

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-10-03 Thread Mordechai Peller
Drake, Ted C. wrote: Here’s the deal. I have a main navigation css. I’d like to create an alternate template and instead of replacing the nav.css with a new flavored nav.css, I’d like to put my color rules in a theme css file. Since I've only glanced at the solutions referred to in some of t

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-30 Thread Paul Sturgess
I like to opt for naming conventions that work across all pages of the site and all layouts where possible. The suggestions mentioned by others of nav and navSub are ones I always use. Be careful though not to get carried away with content specific naming. Giving a column an id of 'news' rather th

RE: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-30 Thread Glen Wallis
PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a set of naming conventions for css classes and ids? > Should they have semantic meaning? I.E. "address" rather than "bottom". >

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-29 Thread Alan Trick
If at all possible don't use class names that describe the way something looks, but more what the thing actually is. I find that using names that discribe the style of something will almost always come back to bite you. And depending on how large you project is, it can bite pretty hard. I was work

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-29 Thread Alan Trick
Hassan Schroeder wrote: > Terrence Wood wrote: > > >>Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, so you >>will need some kind of server side solution ... >> >>AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement > > > Well, no -- I frequently use variables in styl

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-29 Thread Irina Ahrens
James, Read this: http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/week_05/managing_files.html and Tantek's presentation today at WE05, especially "meaningful class names" part http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/elements-of-xhtml/ Cheers, Irina. On 9/30/05, Nick Gleitzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-29 Thread Nick Gleitzman
James Oppenheim wrote: I tend to use underscore for class and id, try very much to stay away from two word file names. This is a question (discussion?) that comes up every couple of months here on the list - ultimately, I reckon you'll get as many 'conventions' in use as you've offered sugge

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-29 Thread James Gollan
Whilst it won't affect accessibility or usability for the end user (afaik) the class and id names should have semantic meaning indicating there logical function - rather than id="rightColumn" you might use id="localNavColumn" if the function of the column was to contain local nav. This means if

[WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

2005-09-29 Thread James Oppenheim
Hi all, Does anyone know of a set of naming conventions for css classes and ids? Should they have semantic meaning? I.E. “address” rather than “bottom”. How should you go about naming the “right column” div. What about for file names. naming_conventions.html naming-conventions.html n

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Bert Doorn wrote: > ASP, PHP or whatever server side language you use, as long as you set > the appropriate content type on (in) the file (be it css.asp, css.php > or whatever) it should work in more browsers than just MSIE. > > I just ran a test and it worked fine in Opera 8, Firefox, MSIE6 and

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Thierry Koblentz wrote: And as a side note, with MSIE, it is possible to give an ASP extension to the styles sheet to use scripting logic within that file. ASP, PHP or whatever server side language you use, as long as you set the appropriate content type on (in) the file (be it css.asp

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hassan Schroeder wrote: > Terrence Wood wrote: > >> Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, >> so you will need some kind of server side solution ... >> >> AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement > > Well, no -- I frequently use variables in style she

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Terrence Wood wrote: > Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, so you > will need some kind of server side solution ... > > AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement Well, no -- I frequently use variables in style sheets built in JSP, especially earl

RE: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Terrence Wood
yeah, I thought you meant you were using 56K lines of code to replace 4 lines of CSS... sounded like overkill to me when a one line regex can do the same thing. Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, so you will need some kind of server side solution - a few are mentio

RE: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Drake, Ted C.
PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables Hi Ted, You're not thinking of these? http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/31/the-constants-gardener/ Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Rebecca Cox
sgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables Hi Terrence I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just

RE: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Rebecca Cox
'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables Hi Terrence I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just

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