rpret* these differently,
they'll *display* them differently...
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fact that they visually look
the same in print. The meaning (it's a mathematical exponent vs an
ordinal indicator vs an abbreviation for Mademoiselle) changes depending
on context, so the semantics are certainly far from cut and dry.
IMHO of course,
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that comes with each email
to this list.
Cheers,
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avaScript datepicker
}
You can also simply test if the "type" of your input is reported as
"date". Older browsers that don't implement the new HTML5 types simply
fall back to changing them - in the DOM itself - to type="text"
if (!myElement.type =
On 01/06/2012 21:00, Tom Livingston wrote:
a definition
What's most semantic and appropriate?
a definition list?
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g for ^.*@.*$.
Or not using pattern/regexp at all and relying on the fact that browsers
that support type=email should automagically do internal validation of
the input against their baked-in pattern.
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text". So
something like
if (document.getElementById('email').type == 'text') {
// doesn't support type=email ... load JS-based validation script
}
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On 12/05/2012 09:54, coder wrote:
I have a very simple html5 contact form which I'd like to keep that way.
However, the 'pattern' attribute isn't recognised by IE and I feel that
it surely must be possible to just use a bit of modernizr to make it
work. Example is:
Email
I'm not a javascript p
), is...sub-optimal in that respect.
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put
anything (HTML structures, as opposed to just an image) into the LI's.
Is putting block elements into an LI really semantically ok/allowed?
TIA
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uses it (and you probably DO want
your styles to also apply there).
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AI IG list
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2012JanMar/0143.html
Coincidence? Or have RS launched some kind of marketing campaign?
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m one camp is likely to convince somebody firmly in the
other camp, it's fairly pointless beyond this.
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ot;visitors won't want
to leave MY website, I want to keep them here...let the external link
open somewhere else".
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indow is a good thing...explain WHY! Is it the age-old
"but if I link out of my site, users won't know how to get back to my
site...I don't want to lose visitors" stance?
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Nonetheless, make it clear if a link is going to a completely separate
site. Don't make it look like any other link within your current site,
if possible. Or change the wording a la "for more information, visit the
http://...";>Blahblah company
//xkcd.com/763/ )
:)
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http://redux.deviantart.com | http:
les/tablets, if we want to include those in the discussion.
TL;DR just use straight links.
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the difficulties you may be experiencing in getting
inaccessible systems etc installed on your own...that's not quite the
point of this mailing list. List mums and dads...agree or disagree?
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about media queries... Is the mobile checker suitable for if
you are creating one set of htmls code and for mulitple devices?
No.
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headers, getting a count of rows/cells and where the current focus is) that are
impossible to replicate with anything other than table markup. So, as much as I
sympathise with the developers' "it's easier" take, it won't cut it I'm afraid.
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tested, but I'd start with a min-width:50% (with caveat that if I
remember right, IE6 and below doesn't support min/max widths)
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settings > font size (3rd option down)
or am i missing something?
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On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:55, tee wrote:
> I clearly remember OM used to have this feature, but in my recent upgrade,
> it's gone. Anybody knows about this? This list has Opera Inc employee(s), a
ole -
it's based on what group you fall in, like "members" etc.
If I understand it right, I'd say that yes, seems appropriate for
the grid as well - though keep in mind that there's no ONE TRUE WAY(TM)
to mark anything up semantically, so opinions
tly have that
particular heuristic (though I know of at least one that's planning to
add something similar).
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Flash ... does anyone know.
View Source...
And yes, it does use flash (rather than the element) for the
actual sound playback...
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On 17/05/2011 17:05, Carl Heaton wrote:
You are mainly looking for CSS3 type things as full accessibility means
no Javascript.
Not really, it just means that there must be an alternative if JS isn't
available, which usually means loading the image itself at a minimum.
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adjustment).
The Opera article already mentions this, but still worth having a look
at my recent preso (slide 50 onwards)
http://www.slideshare.net/redux/mobilefriendly (don't be put off by the
title slide in russian, the rest is in english ;) )
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at, there's nothing wrong with a
traditional or whatever...
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cally try doing stuff with new
touch events on supported devices, you may have to actually get such a
device as far as I know)
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in context.
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just overkill in my opinion)
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appeared in terms of touchscreen interfaces,
where hovering doesn't work (reliably - some devices have weird
heuristics where a click can be interpreted as a hover in certain
conditions).
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ctical benefit
of using these new structural constructs - e.g. there's no crawlers
looking specifically for s to syndicate etc).
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her or not
that can supplant flash in certain generic use cases), not the
(royalty/patent-encumbered) h.264 codec.
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"/header"
element, so the DOM will look something like
header
textnode
/header
where the three are siblings, rather than
header
-- textnode
where textnode is child of the header node
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#x27;s a good wake-up call (but of
course this is only applicable in certain situations). http://www.lukew.com/
As ever, your mileage may vary,
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On 19/08/2010 11:51, Rob Crowther wrote:
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Also worth pointing out that, to my knowledge, no AT/screen reader
currently supports it either, so this may cause some issues for these
users at present.
Similarly the native semantics of elements like header and nav don'
.
Also worth pointing out that, to my knowledge, no AT/screen reader
currently supports it either, so this may cause some issues for these
users at present.
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5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html
also it is not finished 100% some tweaks to go - mid aug apparently
- S
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x27;t ignore it. Stick with valid markup. In the case of the
h1 there it seems far more logical to use a class name...just because
you can now do attribute selectors, doesn't mean that the old tried
techniques are not valid.
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t recently http://www.slideshare.net/maxdesign/css3-media-queries
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ribute (as minimally useful as it is today).
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o continue
down the 'Alice in Wonderland' route?
Look, let's do it this way: let's agree to disagree. You can go off and
feel that you've proven your point, while the rest of us can get on with
actually underst
in
your CSS, but not in Flash, or in images. So again, you need to actually
be aware how to build things properly. Simply saying that it shouldn't
be your responsibility is not a carte blanche for not doing anything at all.
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one control to the next, and use arrow keys
to move sliders left/right.
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y
be taken pre-emptively. The "'we just won't employ disabled people for
this role" is a potent mix of ignorance and arrogance.
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nt? WCAG 2 has been out
for over a year now, and that's the yardstick we use. And yes, WCAG 2
allows for scripting, or any other accessibility-supported technologies.
But that still means that these technologies need to be used in a
responsible and correct way...because that's the "
JS, if it's
used correctly.
"So I can finally understand the principles behind WCAG2.0."
I get the impression that you still don't, I'm afraid. By saying that
accessibility does not matter in certain situations, you're implicitly
saying that WCAG 2 doesn't
Please have a read of my article and comment via email or on the blog itself.
http://www.flexewebs.com/semantix/accessibility-does-not-matter/
I'm sorry to say that, in my opinion, your argumentation is confused,
ill informed, and m
are best served by having separate web publication guidelines, and have
the strategy simply refer to them.
IMHO, anyway,
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On 27/10/2009 00:05, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote:
Geocities is closing down! So xkcd did a commemorative ‘reprise’ of
their site ... http://xkcd.com/499/
I think Bruce Lawson's tribute from a few years ago is also quite
fitting now.
http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2004/zengarden/
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floats (for the navigation, content, etc) in your styles and
see if that helps.
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Rick Faircloth wrote:
Wow...10 years from now...as fast as change occurs these
days, who knows what things will be like then!
Blind people flying around with jetpacks ;)
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ide the in-page bookmarking function.
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#x27;s desirable to still let users know that a new window
will pop up, but not essential. Compare this to a change of context (new
window or otherwise) when, say, a user simply changes the selected
option in a select element (old-school navigation dropdown selects)
d
I think the above can be decyphered as:
opening and closing tags are required, it can contain any number of
flow elements (block or inline), but can't CONTAIN links, other form
controls, forms or fieldsets.
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ven
in HTML 5 I don't get the impression they have to
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-button-element
(Sorry, genuine question...not trying to be facetious).
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rvalenzu...@mapfreseguros.cl wrote:
Dessde el 9 al 27 de Febrero me encontraré de vacaciones.
Counting down the days...
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only targetting the latest browser versions
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/#rgba-color
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en know that
"the internet" is not just the blue E on their desktop, or what
javascript is, or how to install extensions, or what security threats
are. Heck, most don't even know that they can zoom/text resize/print
most of the time, without having a widget or
ormation? The real solution here is
to get these content authors to actually write their information in a
clearer way (in clear text), I would suggest.
> It would certainly be nice if people were to learn to write "human" dates
> more clearly!
>
> Lets ban those yearl
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
As the lord of microformats Tantek seems so vehemently opposed to it, I
sincerely doubt it will happen any time soon. It's now been roughly
three years since the debate around ABBR issues first started, and
little visible progress seems to have been made. Who
first started, and
little visible progress seems to have been made. Who knows, maybe the
cynic in me will be pleasantly surprised, but I won't hold my breath...
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Anthony Ziebell wrote:
Just a note... for now the following should be used instead:
/human valuemachine
value/
And rely on CSS to display:none that nested span?
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ssible solution (as long as tools that
consume those microformats actually recognise the span solution...been a
while since I checked if that's the case - otherwise, it's purely academic).
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, relationships of elements, etc. And,
with well-authored flash, it's possible even today to have a reasonably
accessible experience even for screen reader users.
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s my core point. Otherwise, it becomes a patronising "I know
what's best for those users". It's far better to actually ask those
users directly (or, in the case of Bim, reading what they've got to say
on the subject).
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annoyance whether the legend is one word or 10 words
long. One word of legend text, if repeated 10 times to me over and over
on every page I visit. It's an annoyance.
But is it an annoyance to somebody who can't actually see your form and
has to rely on auditory cues to know where
t one particular one.
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ht
sourceforge.net/
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Sorry, resending this, as I don't think my gmail account is signed up
to the list. (if it posted anyway, apologies for the doubler)
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Foskett, Mike
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED
think?
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kate wrote:
In Australia, websites are covered by Disability Discrimination
legislation,
Wow!
Idon't think ours are (UK)
Yes, they are.
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actual
label (that would, for instance, be read out by screen readers).
What are you actually trying to achieve?
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Styling/dp/1590597656
and Ian Lloyd's Sitepoint book http://www.sitepoint.com/books/htmlref1/
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www.s
up the DOM more
dramatically) any day if it actually provides an improvement to usability.
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your flash itself is accessible; wouldn't work
on devices like iPhone and co...
more?
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Andrew Harris wrote:
A poem is, essentially, a block quotation, is it not?
Not if it's your own poem you're putting on your own page.
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..disregard my passionate reply rant...
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standard)
Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Challenge the support staff to actually point
out where this statement from the W3C is supposed to be...
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ng. Has been working reasonably
well in all modern browsers.
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http://
kate wrote:
The alt tag which is'nt really the right discription is really called
the attribute tag.
or...the alt attribute, if you want to correct people...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm guessing you don't actually administer a corporate size
spam-filtering 'solution' do you?
I have spamassassin on the server, and thunderbird as client - and I
rarely see spam make it through those and into my inbox. Does that count?
Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:
Although spam is a big red flag for many.
Which should ideally be solved at the email server + email client end,
in my view.
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Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:
I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.-
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" title="e-mail address -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">first name last name
so what if i want to copy/paste the email from the page to another
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them even without any characters, gaps,
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another (e.g. .centre { float: left; } ) ...
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Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
"Quirks mode" is the best mode for the old bugger known as IE6, IMO,
Care to clarify why, exactly?
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that one. Another very strong point: more
predictable = less time and money wasted on workarounds and CSS acrobatics.
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Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
"Pages that validate as strict are superior to transitional because
___."
There's not really a clear-cut answer. Again, speaking personally, I
find that using strict helps in my quality assurance of other authors'
work, because st
es of problems from the HTML 4 days...
"It is important to serve pages that validate as strict because
___."
Serving them as strict is irrelevant, in my mind. You could in fact
still have transitional pages, just run them through the validator set
to
On Mon, April 14, 2008 3:25 pm, Samuel Santos wrote:
Semantically speaking, what is the right HTML/XHTML element to represent a
path or a file name?
Would it be , , or simply ?
could work, at a stretch...
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es when you *can* drop the underline, if the context
makes it clear enough that something is a link (e.g. left-hand
navigation bars).
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Of course, this all also depends on the target audience of your site.
If it's something aimed at the middle-/upper-class 11-16 market, for
instance, you can start to assume a higher IT literacy level.
As with anything, absolutely everything is relative :)
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