Re: [WSG] CSS2.1 now an official recommendation

2011-06-17 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Does your amplifier go up to 11? On Fri, June 17, 2011 9:03 am, Grant Bailey wrote: Hello, I can barely believe that CSS2.1 has only just become an official recommendation (see http://www.css3.info/css2-1-and-the-css3-color-module-become-official-w3c-recommendations/). Could anyone

Re: [WSG] pop up windows and Google

2011-05-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Possibly you could use: META NAME=ROBOTS CONTENT=NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW so they're not indexed in the first place. On Thu, May 12, 2011 10:14 am, Bob Schwartz wrote: I have several sites where i use pop-up windows to present certain types of information. When someone does a Google search

Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-21 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Search engines are blind readers - design for accessibility. Each page on the Website should be on a specific topic (except, perhaps,for the Homepage). Put the topic first in the title tag, so that it is easily identifiable from the other pages. The top header in the page content should

Re: [WSG] images against color backgrounds

2010-12-09 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Might get some ideas from CSS Drop Shadows @ http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssdropshadows/ On Wed, December 8, 2010 9:01 pm, cat soul wrote: I hope I'm not bending/breaking the purpose of the list but wanted opinions on best practices for preparing images for use on web pages where

Re: [WSG] Site for Vision Impaired

2010-11-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/#tools On Fri, November 26, 2010 11:25 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: G'day Everyone, I was wondering if any of you have done any work on sites for the visually impaired? I have just started a projet for a school for the visually impaired and the

Re: [WSG] best formatting for alt text

2010-11-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Or rather, start with the the semantic structure of the page, then insert the image into the structure appropriately. On Sat, November 13, 2010 1:46 am, Christian Montoya wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Patrick H. Lauke re...@splintered.co.uk wrote: On 13/11/2010 01:23, cat soul

Re: [WSG] attribute selectors to target external and internal links

2010-10-23 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Sat, October 23, 2010 3:46 am, tee wrote: Now I feel like the simpleton who tried enter the room with a long stick holding horizontally. tee Is that horizontally, perpendicular to the entrance or horizontally, parallel to the entrance?

Re: [WSG] RE: Fonts in MS Publisher compared to onlineRe:

2010-09-14 Thread Stuart Foulstone
But then again, how it displays is dependent on the fonts available on the site visitor's system not what some graphic designer wants. That's why many graphic designers make poor Web Designers - they can't get their head round the flexibility that needs to be designed into a Website. On Tue,

Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]

2010-06-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Any bets we'll still be using HTML5 in 2018? On Sat, June 12, 2010 4:16 pm, Sam Sherlock wrote: Any bets for it being done in time to watch the 2018 World Cup on an HTML 5 video feed? in a ie browser without any fudging? my initial response was only if Google are in position to take

RE: [WSG] FINAL VERSION OF MY SITE

2010-02-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi Marvin, On Wed, February 3, 2010 11:50 pm, Webb, KerryA wrote: You should check the Top of page links on the Recipes page. They each seem to go to the start of the previous recipe rather than to the top of the Web page. Kerry That is, you have links with duplicate link-text pointing

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-02-01 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I have a chicken - explain how to make it into an egg. On Sun, January 31, 2010 11:46 pm, Andrew Stewart wrote: Sorry to ask again, but please explain how the site could be made accessible whilst maintaining the same ease of use? On 1 Feb 2010, at 10:31, Thierry Koblentz wrote: From:

Re: [WSG] vegetable page vallidation

2010-01-20 Thread Stuart Foulstone
yes On Wed, January 20, 2010 8:58 am, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. last page for this site. still getting errors. am i stupid or some thin. marvin. Markup Validation Service Check the markup (HTML, XHTML, .) of Web documents Jump To:Validation Output Errors found while checking this

Re: [WSG] font names problem in internet explorer

2010-01-17 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi Marvin, I don't have any experience with screen-readers, but here is a suggestion. It seems the only place you have defined a font is on body. Maybe it just reads out the explicit attributes you give the header, as in center. Try defining the same font-family on the header, as well, to see

Re: [WSG] IE Issue

2010-01-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Why,oh why, don't people validate their code and remove their own errors before complaining about some browser or other doing it wrong. This is supposed to be Standards list. On Wed, January 13, 2010 2:34 am, stephanie campanella wrote: Hey Guys, I'm experiencing an issue with IEUn

Re: [WSG] Using CSS to select a tag having an ID attribute: page served as application/xhtml+xml

2009-12-17 Thread Stuart Foulstone
It might be that xml requires lowercase only and that the problem is the H in the id div_Heading. On Thu, December 17, 2009 8:41 am, Grant Bailey wrote: Hello, I've recently started serving my web pages as xml pages using the MIME type application/xhtml+xml rather than text/css as

Re: [WSG] my final site

2009-11-25 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi Marvin, The semantics of the headers on your recipe page are wrong. Headers show the structure of the underlying document with the numbering indicating the position of importance and order. Thus, h1recipe nameh1 h2Ingredientsh2 h2Directionsh2 h3Country/h3 would relate the country, h3, to

Re: [WSG] I.E Navigation help

2009-11-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
What you're trying to do is alter the display of the native list structure - not the links. That is you want to display the list-items inline and floated left. ( e.g. .navlist li { display: inline; float: left; list-style-type: none; } On Wed, November 18, 2009

Re: [WSG] got some time to evaluate accessibility web resource?

2009-11-16 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A good start would be to validate your coding and correct the errors. On Mon, November 16, 2009 1:38 pm, Prisca schmarsow wrote: Hello everyone :) Would you be willing to evaluate a website which is a resource for web designers and developers on the topic of web accessibility and

Re: [WSG] Including a DIV element inside an HREF tag

2009-11-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Since links are inline elements, they shouldn't contain block elements, such as div and p. Why not use span (native) inline elements? You should then be able to use CSS to display them as you wish (including display: block if you want) using the classes you have ascribed. On Wed, November 4,

Re: [WSG] recovering file replace

2009-10-20 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I'd recommend backing files up. On Tue, October 20, 2009 2:57 am, Luke Hoggett wrote: Hi, Sorry you lost your file. As a precaution in the future I'd recommend installing some sort of version control e.g. svn can seem a bit daunting to install or overkill for 1-2 people but in the long run

RE: [WSG] IE6 display issue

2009-10-10 Thread Stuart Foulstone
handler Alternatively place the script at the bottom of the page? mike -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: 09 October 2009 11:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 display

Re: [WSG] IE6 display issue

2009-10-09 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Try onload() event handler, see: http://javascript.about.com/library/bltut31.htm On Fri, October 9, 2009 6:55 am, Western Web Design wrote: Kepler Gelotte wrote: In IE6, although the image fades and replaces etc, the #header is enlarged to accommodate all 4 images though three remain hidden.

Re: [WSG] my site and mouse rollovers

2009-09-22 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi Marvin, I am interested in your angle on regarding the repeating alt attribute values in your menu, e.g. alt=Closed Banana. This would appear to be against basic WCAGC accessibility guidelines, and also totally unnecessary verbiage for the listener. What is your reasoning for doing this?

Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice

2009-09-22 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Perhaps you could use separate lists for each sub-heading then use the appropriate start value for each list. Using something similar to: http://www.arraystudio.com/as-workshop/make-ol-list-start-from-number-different-than-1-using-css.html (maybe an unordered list(definition list?) of

Re: [WSG] hr / or CSS3 Border Background

2009-08-09 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Sun, August 9, 2009 3:53 am, tee wrote: ... However, seeing that HTML 5 has given hr tag a new purpose: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-hr-element http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#flow-content-0 quote: The hr element represents a paragraph-level thematic

Re: [WSG] Usability in Links

2009-07-19 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, if the different links are in clearly defined different areas there should be little confusion, even with using the same colors reversed. If you mix them in the same menu, then there's obviously a problem of consistency of the meaning. However, what you should NOT do, from a usability

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
sine qua non = indispensible On Thu, July 2, 2009 9:27 pm, Rick Faircloth wrote: It is the sine qua non of accessibility And that's exactly the point I'm trying to make...just addressing the font-size issue is the most basic form of accomodation possible. We can do better. On Thu, Jul 2,

Re: [WSG] converting CSS and XHTML to PDFs

2009-03-31 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Try http://www.expresspdf.com/ConvertHtmlToPdf.aspx with page orientation set to LANDSCAPE. On Mon, March 30, 2009 2:30 pm, agerasimc...@unioncentral.com wrote: I have a problem converting my web pages, which are CSS driven into PDFs (users usually do Right Click - convert page to PDF) - they

RE: Who's responsible (was Re: [WSG] add to favorites?)

2009-03-26 Thread Stuart Foulstone
The point of the introduction of Web standards was so that user-agent manufacturers can create browsers that render them as intended by the designer. And that, yes, in 10 years time the browsers that exist then (whatever form they may take)will still render them as intended because they are

RE: [WSG] add to favorites?

2009-03-25 Thread Stuart Foulstone
This list is aware of many marketing practices that are against Web Standards. On Wed, March 25, 2009 3:46 pm, Rick Faircloth wrote: No, previous arguments still miss the point. Having a button on a browser for booksmarks is not comparable to having a Bookmark this page link on the

Re: [WSG] add to favorites?

2009-03-25 Thread Stuart Foulstone
The Web Standards Group is for web designers developers who are interested in web standards (HTML, XHTML, XML, CSS, XSLT etc.) and best practices (accessible sites using valid and semantically correct code). We aim to: * Provide web developers and designers with a forum to discuss issues

RE: [WSG] Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator 1.0 Released!

2009-03-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
possibly something to do with: #websemantics a {display:none} producing an empty h1/h1 ? On Fri, March 13, 2009 10:33 am, Foskett, Mike wrote: An excellent tool. I'm intrigued as to why this code would flag an error: titleWelcome to siteName - blah blah blah/title ... h1a

RE: [WSG] Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator 1.0 Released!

2009-03-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Err... sorry about my initial confusion - I've had a long day. Perhaps, The text content of each h1 element should match all or part of the title content. means that ALL the h1 text content, Welcome - work, you're welcome to it should match PART of the title content - which of course it

RE: [WSG] Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator 1.0 Released!

2009-03-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
of the title content (which of course it doesn't). Try removing the tagline so it just reads Welcome and test again. On Sat, March 14, 2009 12:35 am, Stuart Foulstone wrote: possibly something to do with: #websemantics a {display:none} producing an empty h1/h1 ? On Fri, March 13, 2009 10:33

Re: [WSG] a WCAG 2.0 question

2009-03-12 Thread Stuart Foulstone
No contradiction. WCAG 2.0 Recommendation is the normative document. Not all techniques can be used or would be effective in all situations. Therefore, any particular TECHNIQUE is not REQUIRED for conformance. That is to say, if you have some other technique that meets the WCAG

RE: [WSG] IE and the button element

2009-02-24 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Which IS semantic and separates content (the link) from presentation (a button). On Mon, February 23, 2009 10:56 pm, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, John Horner wrote: Thanks for all the discussion so far. It seems I'll have to re-code. I will definitely not be using

RE: [WSG] IE and the button element

2009-02-24 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Which IS semantic and separates content (the link) from presentation (a button). On Mon, February 23, 2009 10:56 pm, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, John Horner wrote: Thanks for all the discussion so far. It seems I'll have to re-code. I will definitely not be using

RE: [WSG] URL naming best practice guide? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-02-20 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Possibly http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990321.html On Fri, February 20, 2009 3:25 am, Chris Vickery wrote: Thanks. Not really what I'm looking for. I know the principals myself... I'm looking for a site, a guide... something more substantive or with some authority. If it's in relatively

Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

2009-02-15 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Also take account of results in published surveys of actual users. For example, see screen-reader user survey: http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey/ On Sat, February 14, 2009 11:35 pm, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On 11/2/09 05:59, Henrik Madsen wrote: What similar software /

Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Mmm.. something strange happening with line spacing, cursor positioning or something in this column. If you try and block (as in block and paste) a piece of text you actually have to move the cursor along the line above. Weird??? This could mean that you can never actually position the cursor

Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Another clue... If you position the text cursor (as opposed to the mouse cursor) on the text just before a link... then use the right-arrow key to move this cursor over the link... then the link works as it should. On Fri, February 6, 2009 11:53 pm, Kristine Cummins wrote: Hi all: I'm having

RE: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-02-02 Thread Stuart Foulstone
See: http://accessites.org/site/2007/02/graceful-degradation-progressive-enhancement/4/ On Fri, January 30, 2009 12:29 pm, kie...@humdingerdesigns.co.uk wrote: Agreed - people certainly aren't getting any smarter as far as web technologies go. Particuarly as the web is now viewed as a common

Re: [WSG] Microformats Accessibility

2009-01-20 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I think it's a clash between microformats VS html AND accessibility standards. On Mon, January 19, 2009 12:48 am, Ben Rowe wrote: on microformats.org, it suggests the ABBR element and title attribute for machine code. however, title attribute for this element will be read out to a screen

RE: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

2009-01-19 Thread Stuart Foulstone
As I said - the coding errors. On Sat, January 17, 2009 8:03 pm, Rick Faircloth wrote: What did you find to be so bad about the site, Stuart? -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Saturday

Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

2009-01-17 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Perhaps the students should code the site - they couldn't do much worse! On Fri, January 16, 2009 7:00 pm, Fred Ballard wrote: Take a look at Sullivan High School's http://www.sullivanhs.org/. As you can see in the homepage's lower right corner it's from the Chicago Public Schools,

Re: [WSG] SEO and Flash

2009-01-14 Thread Stuart Foulstone
If the text in Flash is accessible SEs will index it. Search robots are in effect blind readers. If text in Flash is accessible, screen readers can read it. However, sensible screen-reader users disable Flash. On Wed, January 14, 2009 7:21 pm, Christie Mason wrote: It seems that SEs are

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-12-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
but is effectively not one. However, complying with WCAG confers added benefits which standards compliance creators strive for. On 29/11/2008, at 09:22 , Stuart Foulstone wrote: It may validate, but valid code is just a pre-requisite to achieving standards compliance. On Fri, November 28, 2008 8:43

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you do it in a standards compliant way? On Fri, November 28, 2008 10:45 am, Dave Hall wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 23:11 -0600, Brett Patterson wrote: What Dave? I was simply illustrating how to make text blink in a standards

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
It may validate, but valid code is just a pre-requisite to achieving standards compliance. On Fri, November 28, 2008 8:43 pm, Dave Hall wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 13:07 +, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you do it in a standards compliant

Re: [WSG] Strange character encoding issue

2008-11-20 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, could used named ampersand character codes. http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/text/specialcharacters.html eg lsquo;SOAPrsquo; On Wed, November 19, 2008 4:05 pm, James Jeffery wrote: Never had a problem with character encodings on web pages, but since I reinstalled the OS on my iMac I have

Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-17 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Actually, the label tag wrapped around form input is the old traditional method. The for attribute method was introduced later to allow designers greater flexibility in positioning/styling forms whilst maintaining accessibility. On Fri, October 17, 2008 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank

Re: [WSG] Accessible menu lists - using the pipe character as separator?

2008-09-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Early screen-readers were not very good at differentiating links and would run together the text of two adjacent links so it was necessary to use a separator character. The vertical line (pipe) became the preferred character to separate adjacent links because, whilst it is quite verbose -

Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites

2008-08-17 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Section 508 is a minimum standard required for Websites of US Government contractors, etc. and so has been adopted by many other Websites too. It is not law, as such. Disability Discrimination legislation in Europe, the US and Oceania are all very similar and require Website owners to take

Re: [WSG] Tables for product=price list

2008-08-11 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A list is the most appropriate for a list. The fact that price list states list DOES mean a list should be used - when you use the term list that's what the user then expects it to be. If you don't want to use a list (for whatever pedantic reason) then don't call it one. If you want to use a

Re: [WSG] Tables for product=price list

2008-08-11 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Mon, August 11, 2008 10:38 am, James Jeffery wrote: Disagree. ... Again, just because something is a list does not mean it should be in a list. Take for example students grades. The school needs to list the name, the subject, the expected grade, the outcome (30/30) and a percentage

Re: [WSG] Correct markup of fieldset

2008-08-08 Thread Stuart Foulstone
If it's not a field it shouldn't be in a fieldset - which is a set of fields. On Thu, August 7, 2008 10:07 am, Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, This is one I've never been sure of; should the submit button be in a seperate fieldset, or should it even be in a fieldset at all because it is not a

RE: [WSG] Correct markup of fieldset

2008-08-08 Thread Stuart Foulstone
-- Stuart Foulstone. On Fri, August 8, 2008 11:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my mind, one of the most pressing questions that needs to be answered in any particular case is: How is the fieldset labelled? If it specifically says something like 'postcode' or maybe 'contact details

Re: [WSG] Appropriate postings

2008-08-06 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I have no problem with elementary questions about Web standards. But there are perhaps too many posts about how to write basic HTML mark-up and elementary CSS. This is especially true when the 'poster' has apparently not even tried to validate it (and, therefore, not seriously tried to solve

Re: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Another problem is that there are organisations which still have large investments in a legacy O/S (MS included) on which IE7/8 cannot run. So it's not just a time issue for downloading the browser, but upgrading to a new O/S. On Mon, August 4, 2008 8:03 am, James Ellis wrote: Hi Not wanting

Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A dl is a LIST of definition terms and their description. dt is a definition term to be described (not title). dd is description of the definition term. See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 On Mon, August 4, 2008 4:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was under

RE: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A drop down list with a Go button is better than a jump menu for accessibility standards. If a user [can't use a mouse and] has to use the arrow keys for navigating the menu you will find that jump menus tend to open the second option automatically (i.e. when the user first uses the arrow key)

Re: [WSG] Re: Form (layout/accessibiity)

2008-07-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Incidentally, the second part of the postcode should have maxlength=3 (it is always three characters long). On Wed, July 9, 2008 9:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have created a form which acts as a interface to a system outside of my control. This takes UK postcode in two parts (postcode1

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

2008-06-07 Thread Stuart Foulstone
For discussion on usability of breadcrumb trails see Nielsen, http://www.useit.com/alertbox/breadcrumbs.html On Fri, June 6, 2008 7:45 am, libwebdev wrote: Hi folks, My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments, using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the

RE: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

2008-06-07 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Flaming is definitely off topic! On Fri, June 6, 2008 9:38 am, Ted Drake wrote: Damn, this is refreshing to hear for a change! Enough said. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Harris Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:13 AM To:

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Stuart Foulstone
But the Webpage (or the entire site for that matter) is not be about The Sun or The Times - it's about the news. And the news is what the user is looking for. On Fri, May 30, 2008 9:10 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on this, is that IT ALL DEPENDS ! Every site is different. For

Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li

2008-05-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I seem to remember someone in a previous thread, about similar problem, suggested using, display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; On Sat, May 17, 2008 3:39 pm, Darren Lovelock wrote: Hi list, I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically center all the items in

Re: [WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?

2008-05-16 Thread Stuart Foulstone
But that's not because lots of people don't know how to use the address bar, its because MOST PEOPLE find it easier to type partial URL's into Google rather than typing the whole URL into the address bar - plus if you make a slight error you get prompted for the correction rather than just told

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-12 Thread Stuart Foulstone
This point originally concerned which character to use IF you use a character to separate links. It did NOT say that this was the preferred method. On Mon, May 12, 2008 2:18 am, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: Screen-reader users have said that the vertical bar is THEIR preferred character Really? Do

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Stuart Foulstone
The reason for putting the character there in the first place is explicitly to help screen-reader users distinguish between links. Screen-reader users have said that the vertical bar is THEIR preferred character (even though this means repeating vertical bar) since it is not used for anything

Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-08 Thread Stuart Foulstone
From a usability/accessibility point a view. The most common separator used in such circumstances (and therefore that most expected by screen-reader users) is the vertical bar. i.e. IF you add extra characters for accessibility, use the ones they are familiar with (usability). Addition:

Re: R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?

2008-05-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stuart Foulstone wrote: Or use a CSS class to do the same, div class=”centre” and .centre { text-align: center; } On Sat, May 3, 2008 10:22 am, Diego La Monica wrote: What about div style=”text-align: center” ? Diego La Monica Web

Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
happens when you go against the natural order of things. On Sat, May 3, 2008 7:15 pm, Dean Matthews wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote: To be clear, I have a 1pixel bottom border on hover (It looks better than the default underline). The problem is to easily

Re: R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?

2008-05-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
, Chris Price wrote: Stuart Foulstone wrote: CSS classes are for presentation. Content is content. Centering content is presentation. Class names should not use keywords such as center. centre is not a keyword and can be used. The class centre can then be used anywhere centering is desired

Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Yes there is a simple way. Set up the anchor hover rule using, text-decoration: underline; An image is NOT text so it will not underline the image. The image should be given an alt text description for when the image is not available. This text WILL be underlined on hover which is as it

Re: R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?

2008-05-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Or use a CSS class to do the same, div class=”centre” and .centre { text-align: center; } On Sat, May 3, 2008 10:22 am, Diego La Monica wrote: What about div style=”text-align: center” ? Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype:

Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
PS As someone mentioned earlier you should also remove borders from the image, a img { border: 0; } (since some browsers will treat border as underline in these circumstances) On Sat, May 3, 2008 10:11 am, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Yes there is a simple way. Set up the anchor hover rule

RE: [WSG] help with background color

2008-04-27 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Why The Fuss? On Fri, April 25, 2008 9:28 pm, Rick Faircloth wrote: Chill, out... and watch the language... Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ?? ? Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:54 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

2008-04-27 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Your problem is probably because your CSS converts the normally inline span elements to floating block elements. On Sun, April 27, 2008 10:41 am, Naveen Bhaskar wrote: hi, I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put inside a span. I want this two values come

Re: [WSG] Path semantics

2008-04-14 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Mon, April 14, 2008 3:25 pm, Samuel Santos wrote: Semantically speaking, what is the right HTML/XHTML element to represent a path or a file name? Would it be samp, kbd, or simply code? Best regards, -- Samuel Santos http://samaxes.com/ Hi, None of the above. The samp tag is

Re: [WSG] How to make diagonal lines change color?

2008-04-11 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, From a usability and accessibility point of view doing this is a very bad idea, so is way OT for Web Standards Group. On Thu, April 10, 2008 11:54 pm, Laert Jansen wrote: Hello everyone. Well there´s something I want to do but I have no idea if it´s possible to be done and how would I

RE: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers....

2008-04-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 8:43 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers Hi, You might find the following link useful: See http

Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers....

2008-04-02 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, You might find the following link useful: See http://www.webaim.org/techniques/frames/ Stuart On Wed, April 2, 2008 1:13 am, Anat Katz wrote: Hi team, Just a general question - is there any value from a screen reader point of view, to have a specific title to the actual pages that

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Stuart Foulstone
While yet another 50+ age group, who invented the Internet and the World Wide Web, continue to set the standards which stop it descending into chaos. On Mon, March 31, 2008 3:39 pm, Michael Horowitz wrote: I find most do. I think there is a wide disparity depending on who you work with.

Re: [WSG] nest heading properly

2008-03-29 Thread Stuart Foulstone
But the bold text titles in this situation are usually at the same level in the document structure so should have the same , say h3, heading level. On Fri, March 28, 2008 7:08 pm, tee wrote: ... it's more than a challenge for a complicated columned layout that designer tends to use h3 for

Re: [WSG] Why is u deprecated?

2008-03-27 Thread Stuart Foulstone
as useful feedback that it is in fact, a link. Predefined standard colours are less important these days, but good design does seem to favour blue-ish for link as a convention. Joe On Mar 27, 2008, at 09:14, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Hi, Usability. Users expect link-text

Re: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists

2008-03-26 Thread Stuart Foulstone
browser/user agent? /Svip On 25/03/2008, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, RE: When I hid the del using display: hidden; the list would render something like this I can't say I've ever felt the need to use these tags, but isn't hiding the content supposed to be the job

Re: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists

2008-03-25 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, RE: When I hid the del using display: hidden; the list would render something like this I can't say I've ever felt the need to use these tags, but isn't hiding the content supposed to be the job of the browser/user agent - rather than you using CSS. On Sun, March 23, 2008 12:43 pm, Thomas

Re: [WSG] Apply ALT tag to background image?

2008-03-24 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, If it's a CSS background image then it's not content and doesn't have an alt attribute. (The non-preferred alternative is to to put it in an img tag with alt=) If it IS content, it should be in an image tag rather than CSS background image, with the alt attribute describing the content of

Re: [WSG] Hanging indents

2008-03-21 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Perhaps you could try nested lists. On Fri, March 21, 2008 1:56 am, Elizabeth Spiegel wrote: Hi all I'm developing a site for a non-profit organisation and one page is their constitution. I'm trying to get the clauses to appear with a hanging indent as they currently do in the word

RE: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction

2008-03-07 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Search robots are essentially blind users. Design to Web accessibility standards and you remove all the clutter that can get in the way of bots traversing your site and also include information that they might otherwise miss (e.g. through alt attributes). The easier it is to find keywords

RE: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction

2008-03-07 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Search robots are essentially blind users. Design to Web accessibility standards and you remove all the clutter that can get in the way of bots traversing your site and also include information that they might otherwise miss (e.g. through alt attributes). The easier it is to find keywords

Re: [WSG] re: generate data

2008-02-24 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I agree - ignorance and couldn't care less are the commonest excuses for not creating professional standards based Websites. On Sun, February 24, 2008 4:02 am, Breton Slivka wrote: I don't really feel like participating in the dramatic part of this- But I can answer some of the questions

Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking, etc. The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis,

Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Very ironic. On Wed, February 13, 2008 12:38 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: ... NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to degenerate into pretentious drivel mode... -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/

RE: [WSG] Navigation - Pseudo Standards?

2007-11-15 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Thu, November 15, 2007 12:42 pm, Christie Mason wrote: This is a dynamic, database driven site to present product information on around 2500 B2B products. Top Navigation is the product Division, bottom will probably be a repeat of the site navigation, Product navigation is drill down

Re: [WSG] multilingual website advice

2007-11-02 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Certain Islamic cultures have restrictions on images of any living thing - not just people. There are also differences of opinion as to whether this applies to just drawings or to photographs too. See: http://www.muhajabah.com/pictures-fiqh.htm Whilst some things of these may be unoffensive

Re: [WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
But the point is that, this accessibility feature is for people who can't use a mouse - i.e. they cannot click anywhere. On Sun, October 28, 2007 6:46 am, Tee G. Peng wrote: John said don't use display:block. Actually the very reason I used it is because I want a user able to click on any

Re: [WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Sun, October 28, 2007 6:38 pm, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Stuart Foulstone wrote: But the point is that, this accessibility feature is for people who can't use a mouse - i.e. they cannot click anywhere. In general parlance, click has become the general term for activate. Keyboard users

Re: [WSG] WCAG conformance and checking

2007-10-26 Thread Stuart Foulstone
You might like: http://www.wave.webaim.org/index.jsp as a graphic aid. On Fri, October 26, 2007 1:22 pm, Simon Cockayne wrote: Hi Jen, Ooh...http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en is nice. Thanks! Simon *** From: Jens Brueckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

Re: [WSG] Opera for Nintendo Wii and CSS

2007-10-25 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Opera mini simulator: http://www.operamini.com/demo/ -- On Thu, October 25, 2007 11:36 am, Rob Crowther wrote: Geoff Pack wrote: Does Opera on the Wii support handlheld and/or projection stylesheets? SVG? According to these articles, it supports handheld and tv media types, SVG and

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