The Web Standards Group is for web designers & developers who are
interested in web standards (HTML, XHTML, XML, CSS, XSLT etc.) and best
practices (accessible sites using valid and semantically correct code).
We aim to:

    * Provide web developers and designers with a forum to discuss issues
and share knowledge (via our discussion list and regular meetings)
    * Provide web standards information and assistance to developers
    * Promote "web standards" within the development community


On Wed, March 25, 2009 10:46 pm, Nathan de Vries wrote:
> On 26/03/2009, at 3:56 AM, Steve Green wrote:
>> Is this list interested in discussing how to balance the conflicting
>> requirements of various stakeholders (including marketers) or does
>> it take
>> the dogmatic position that compliance with web stardards trumps
>> everything
>> else?
> You've pretty much summed up the reason I constantly ask myself why I
> haven't unsubscribed from this list yet. To me, web standards evolve
> by taking something that works, recognising its' usefulness, and
> standardising it. In many cases, it's valid and necessary to use
> proprietary features of browsers in lieu of standardised features;
> whether it be using VML in one browser and SVG in another, Flash for
> uploading files to indicate upload progress, vendor-specific
> Javascript calls to add bookmarks, or IE's CSS filters for enabling
> transparent backgrounds.
> Pragmatic use of standard *and* proprietary features of browsers (with
> a preference towards standards) is my definition of someone who takes
> standards seriously. Surprisingly (and unfortunately for many users of
> their software), some of the more vocal on this list seem to disagree.
> Cheers,
> Nathan de Vries
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