as they are not likely to have the tools or skills
available.
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Corporation are just a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first
against the wall when the revolution comes!
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. That to me is the accessibility issue with regard to URL's (not
what they look like).
Over time, I am expecting we will find that the URL itself doesn't matter
as much as it is made to at the moment.
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how to use them.
I wonder when/if Browsers and websites will start using URN's instead of
URL's ??
Here's a nice page (with a nice cryptic URL) on the subject:
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci214164,00.html
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.
Bring on URN's (Uniform Resource Names) and a whole new industry to manage
them and employ all the software engineers in the task !!!
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it is a directory struct may not even map
to the file system at all and may map to a database.
That was another point I was trying to make earlier when I was talking
about URN's.
Just because a URL looks like it maps to directories doesn't mean it does.
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am pretty much in agreement with what is being said
there.
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If this communication is not intended for you and you
(and probably
bookmarks), I have to disagree with regard to URI's.
URI's (URL's and URN's) are a fundamental web standard that should be
discussable in this forum and are not OT.
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do i need to add any values in the css?
Here is a link on styling HR that will help:
http://www.sovavsiti.cz/css/hr.html
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(at least that would be Bill's story
if you asked him).
Works fine in Mozilla Firebird though. While I have become partial to
Firebird I am still a pragmatist and realise that 95%+ people in the world
are apparently using IE.
Do you have IE to test it with?
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though.
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content people the same flexibility that we can get by
hand-coding our HTML/CSS. So a lot of the content that gets created still
relies on old technologies.
We have tried, in the new template design, to stick pretty much to a
CSS-based layout.
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that
indicated it wasn't).
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Can someone please check again for me?
Checked it then in my IE6 (which crashed before).
Works fine now.
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p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email
me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey...
Write a website app for it ;)
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with any new system.
Every document that is edited is done so in DRAFT mode and the document is
then submitted for approval by a central place. That is pretty safe
from my perspective.
Am I a FarCry evangelist?? Yes - certainly.
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use background-position). No flicker there either.
I'm using IE 6.
Did I miss something ??
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be better (I have
never run PHP with both at the same time).
And the rest of the stuff would probably have more people on those other
lists that would know the answers.
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to
fixed point sizes. I always thought I was just a tech head programmer
but the designer in me is coming out and the aesthetics of sites are
starting to assert themselves rather strongly. Relative font sizes ruin
good design.
Gary Menzel
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of relative and non-relative fonts).
I am looking for some pointers or rules of thumb to know when to use
and when to NOT use relative fonts.
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.
That being the case - I might as well go with PX and be done with it (not
saying I will - but saying that if I have to do all of the above to get
back the control then I might as well make my life a lot easier and go
with fixed sizes).
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function loses out over
form (e.g. Zen Garden is wonderful, but the sites I have to build need
more function than form, they are full of figures and tables and graphs,
and that is where I find the brick wall gets more solid).
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the stylesheet
into the Edit CSS window for FireFox, I could not get the bookmarklet's to
work.
Has anyone else had success with that ? Or might I be running some
extensions that are clashing (e.g. Edit CSS extension) ?
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somewhere over the
weekend and repost to the list so people can have a look (again - IE
only).
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- then there is
'getting the job done'
In my case, the latter always takes precedence over the standards because,
in the end, I have to get the job done and meet the requirements (in spite
of standards).
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not be the same the next
time. You still can separate the CSS from the content though, using
server-side scripting.
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the design, that is irrelevant
as I would expect the code to be optimised for a production site.
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on Windows or
Linux.
So - even if one browser lets you do it on one operating system that is
not likely to be the case across the board.
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to Tax Law. If
you go to a Tax Accountant and convince them (outside of their better judgement
and knowledge) to claim things that you cannot reasonably claim within
said Tax Law, then the Tax Accountant is just as liable as you (given they
are the lodging agent).
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, on his death bed, repent of his sins and
return to his rightful place and the Emporer will lose.
[NOTE: any similarities of the above-mentioned
Star Wars (tm LucasFilm) characters to anyone living or dead is purely
co-incidental]
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would be a different list item type that performed this behaviour.
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next Bris meeting: I should remember from the
inaugural one when the
next is (but I've forgotten)
The next Brisbane meeting is on the
14th July 2004.
Planning is underway now. An official
announcement will be made in the next week or so.
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that can provide some contact details).
Thanks.
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nice layout -
but CSS is still not perfect and certainly not across all browsers)
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, I'd be pulling out too.
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they get
funding?
In any case, it's just my opinion.
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Another thing that is often forgotten is that many people DONT run
applications (which also means browsers) at full screen resolution.
Many people still run lots of overlapping windows (the messy desktop
approach).
So - it's all well and good to not design for 640x480 - but there will
be lots of
One comment...
which can be use by everybody
As long as you do that - there wont be any problems.
If the user is an idiot - and they configure their machine in a stupid
way - that's no-one's fault except the user.
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Works fine for me in Firefox.
Works fine in IE too.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:53:50 -0500, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kathryn Ross wrote at Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:59:29 +1100:
document http://www.scottschiller.com/
Firefox's busy wheel has been spinning on this for over a half
Use span instead of div.
That seems to give a more pleasant outcome.
Regards,
Gary
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:10:35 -, designer
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Ignore my last message - I realised I'm putting a block level div in an
inline p Duh! :-)
But I don't know how to get around it . . .
it jumps like that because no CSS is actually loaded (well - nothing
that has any signifcant impact on style) until the JS routine runs
after the rest of the page is loaded.
It could be fixed easily by having a default style that made eveything
hidden to begin with. Then the script could enable
Probably because IE is more forgiving if the server does not have the
correct MIME types set up ??
That's just a guess - but it is probably close to an answer.
Regards,
Gary
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:59:05 -0600, Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Using FF1.0 on a WinME machine, it doesn't
) that they have a not only a consistent look and feel -
but even a consistent standards compliant approach.
Having said all that - there is no gaurantee you wont find something
that LOOKS like the other sites but that still uses horrid markup.
Regards,
Gary Menzel
[PS if government people in other
Works fine in my copy of Firefox.
Very nice crab.
Gary
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:28:30 +1100, Hugh Todd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I I see it beautifully in Safari, but in
Firefox only a blue background
and tiny Times Roman text. What the...?
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The
Yes both are viable.
I would use the dl when I was expecting to have a few per page
type layout that would be more like a brochure layout.
I would use the table when what I wanted was - you guessed it - a
table layout.
My own personal guideline for table VS anything else is simply
asking myself
That all sounds good to me. You dont want to say too much - only
focus on the big things - because otherwise they will get suspicious
and ask you to explain in more detail (which, of course, they will
understand even less).
And I know what you mean about a Week of Friday Afternoons.
I - for one
PERL questions should be directed to a PERL list as PERL is a
scripting language and NOT a web standard.
This is in accordance with the guidelines of the WSG email list.
If you have the answer to this question, please reply OFF LIST to the sender.
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Gary Menzel
(for WSG CORE)
On Tue
Just remember - as far as I have found - if you dont set the width on
the DIV then the DIV will size to whatever the content is.
If you dont have a width on the DIV and say the TABLE is 90% - what
will it be 90% of? The closest bounding ancestor area that has a
width - which will be the body tag
Russ.
You left out vomit appeal!
Gary
[PS - however, it does show that you can do ANYTHING with the CSS Zen
Garden approach]
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:11:06 +1100, Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More proof that good/bad design is nothing whatever to do with
tools/code/software, and
Just a note.
The a two page article link takes you to a subscription page for the
NY Times. I didn't subscribe - just because I usually dont subscribe
to things like that just to read a link from another page. So it
could become counter-productive to the argument (even though it is not
Have you tried changing the DISPLAY style to INLINE instead of BLOCK ?
Gary
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:31:15 +1100, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heya?
How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an
Hx tag?
e.g.
h3My heading/h3 and some more text.
I want
. if it works for you - use it - if it doesn't -
then use something else.
Regards,
Gary Menzel
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:09:14 +1100, Chris Stratford
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James Bennett wrote:
For figuring out the structure of a Gmail page I've found the best
method is to use Mozilla's DOM
clients out there. Lets leave
GMail alone so we ALL get some choice.
Regards,
Gary Menzel
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:40:57 +1100, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
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Standards advice is free.
But I charge for site reviews.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 04:52:55 -0500, Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No replied after 13 days... yeesh. Was it that bad or that good? no
comments at all? worked perfect on everyone's computer/browsers?
here is the url again:
).
And, with all that said, it's only just my opinion (gleaned from all the available information on the semantic approach to markup).
But, when the chips are down and you have to deliver, you do what works.
Regards,
Gary Menzel
On 5/1/05, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been wondering
Of course, with XHTML, you can actually define your own tags (includingcopyright /, trademark /, flyingpigs /).
And don't forget namespaces as well (fairytales:flyingpigs /)
flyingpigs
It'll be nice when all browsers behave and play together in the same playground.
/flyingpigs
signatureGary
My 2c worth.
I can't see how any scripting language would be considered more or less XHTML friendly than any other scripting language. Once you move to a scripting language and not to just a plain text file with markup in it, you have to use the language to generate the markup. The markup is
Browsers that dont support SVG natively require some type of embed tag.
On 7/18/05, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:39 +1000, Joshua Street wrote: svg xmlns=
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg version=1.0 rect stroke=black fill=none rx=5px y=16px x=72px width=202px
If the list is a ul/ul based list you should be able to float the ul right.
If that is giving problems then you might need to wrap a div around it and float the div right.
The following code uses a bit of JS to make getting the list easier, but has a floated right ul (with appropriate inline
Got an error on that page.
You appear to be missing the ##'s around expandPath.
Could not find the included template expandPath(header.cfm).
Note: If you wish to use an absolute template path (e.g. TEMPLATE=/mypath/index.cfm) with CFINCLUDE then you must create a mapping for the path
g it couldnt find the closing body tag but its there.
cutting up the page into header, nav and footer sections, when u do that the validator takes a crap
From: Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:26 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject
: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s
Got an error on
There is a flip-side to the no new window recommendation..
Many of our users are very computer illiterate and giving them too many options confuses them.
We do open our PDF documents in a new window and never have any complaints about it.
We DO get complaints, though, when things are too
There is nothing to see.
I am on IE 6 and get a blank page with the following HTML in it.
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//ENHTMLHEADMETA http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8/HEADBODY/BODY/HTML
And. it takes AGES to come back with that
Browser DO go back out and update files (according to the policy set by either a network admin or the user - which may mean NEVER).
BUT - the biggest problem is all the Proxy Servers inbetween the user and the site.
You cannot always gaurantee that the policy on the proxy is set correctly (or if
maybe try..
white-space: nowrap
On 10/27/05, CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to specify anowrapfor content ofa Table Header or a Table Cell ? I have tried
nowrap: nowrap; but it doesn't work.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Bhuvnesh Chaudhry
We are using the fixed THEAD/TFOOT extensively and dont have any problems with it.
I also applied the concept to fixing a left hand section - which also worked.
Yes, and while it uses a DIV wrapped around the table (and the fixed sections are anchored to that DIV) it provides the very familiar
I will have to wait until I am work and find the reference.
The solution actually ensures that the head and foot still look like they are part of the table. I.E. the scroll bar still sits alongside the head and foot. I.E. it looks like a real listbox.
Gary
On 11/8/05, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The choice on how to handle any MIME type is in the hands of the downloading
application and cannot be controlled by the source site. If it was not for
this, it would be too easy for a site to infect any target operating
system with malicious intent.
Regards,
Gary
[that is - if you find a way
In regard to content-disposition
The following RFC states (very late in the text in the section on
Security)
In general, the receiving MUA should not name or place the file such
that it will get interpreted or executed without the user explicitly
initiating the action.
type).
Regards,
Gary
On 6/13/07, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In regard to content-disposition
The following RFC states (very late in the text in the section on
Security)
In general, the receiving MUA should not name or place the file such
that it will get
are wanting standards
compliance then shouldn't go just part of the way, like microsoft does, to
be standards compliant, that means being accessible to all. we do have laws
about that now, even for the web. let's go to target.
dwain
On 2/22/08, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah
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