Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread Gary McDuffie via wsjt-devel
> On Nov 13, 2023, at 14:38, Dennis W1UE via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > beverage antenna will often produce weaker signals than, say, an inverted L. > However, it will decrease the noise on the signal, and make it easier to > copy, which > should make it easier to decode. Going a step

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread Joseph B. Fitzgerald via wsjt-devel
Most "receiving" antennas for 160m including Beverages actually result in less signal at the receiver compared to "transmitting" antennas, however recieving antennas have _much_ lower noise.As you alluded to the name of the game for receiving is to improve the signal to noise ratio, so a

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread Bill Barrett via wsjt-devel
May want to browse the W8JI website for a lot of interesting information on all phases of ham radio. Here's a link to the Beverage antenna section: https://www.w8ji.com/beverages.htm Have a look at his antenna comparison spreadsheet to get an idea of performance of various receive antennas.

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread Neil via wsjt-devel
Hi Glenn, I've only been using Beverages on 160m for 40 years, so this is a somewhat partial and subjective view, but they certainly increase the S/N ratio considerably for human ear reception of extremely weak signals *when terminated correctly*.  Usual gain is around -20 dBi, but irrelevant

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread robert evans LAST_NAME via wsjt-devel
When they built and installed the beverages they noticed they had just as much noise as the other antennas if not more. I modeled the Beverage and discovered it was a very high loss antenna. The soil was the lossy element and if you tried to reduce the loss by tuning the termination and matching

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread Dennis W1UE via wsjt-devel
Glenn A beverage antenna will often produce weaker signals than, say, an inverted L. However, it will decrease the noise on the signal, and make it easier to copy, which should make it easier to decode. Dennis W1UE On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:29 PM Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel <

[wsjt-devel] FT8 on 160m with Beverage antenna

2023-11-13 Thread Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel
This is a theory question. There is a bit of FT8 on 160m. Does use of a Beverage Antenna to get more signal raise the S/N value? Would that antenna help with receiving weaker signals (a variation of that S/N question)? --73, Glenn, AF8C -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 TX6 mod entry and security hole

2023-05-09 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
> However attempting to use "CQ 3C AF8C EN81" created a couple of problems. Hi Glenn, You are simply trying something that is not supported in WSJT-X. The only supported additions to the CQ message are: CQ 000 - CQ 999 3 to 1002 CQ A - CQ Z 1004 to 1029 CQ AA - CQ ZZ 1031 to 1731 CQ AAA - CQ ZZZ

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 TX6 mod entry and security hole

2023-05-08 Thread Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel
@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Glenn Williams Subject: [wsjt-devel] FT8 TX6 mod entry and security hole Hello, Setup: FT8 V2.6.1, Windows 10, Kenwood TS590SG operated via USB cable. Time/Date: Last night, thinking about changing TX6 to specifically call 3C3CA with a CQ. So we know that "CQ DL AF8C

[wsjt-devel] FT8 TX6 mod entry and security hole

2023-05-08 Thread Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel
Hello, Setup: FT8 V2.6.1, Windows 10, Kenwood TS590SG operated via USB cable. Time/Date: Last night, thinking about changing TX6 to specifically call 3C3CA with a CQ. So we know that "CQ DL AF8C EN81" WILL be transmitted if I modify TX6 and call CQ for Germany, However attempting to use "CQ

[wsjt-devel] FT8 7 signal generator

2022-11-09 Thread Bob Larkin via wsjt-devel
I have been doing duty as curator of a DSP library for the Teensy processors.  This has quite a few ham radio classes that now include FT8 T/R based on the work of Karlis Goba and others.  This is all intended for the Teensy 4.x boards that use ARM Cortex-M7 processors. This note is about a

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 issues

2021-10-27 Thread Greg Sieckman via wsjt-devel
Thanks From: Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Bill Somerville Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 issues On 27/10/2021 18:50, Greg Sieckman via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi, I upped the software not too long ago to 2.4 &

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 issues

2021-10-27 Thread James Shaver (N2ADV) via wsjt-devel
Double click the TX4 button as noted in the manual. > On Oct 27, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Greg Sieckman via wsjt-devel > wrote: > >  > Hi, > I upped the software not too long ago to 2.4 & have now gone to 2.5.1. > Running win 10. > > I suddenly have the sequence of transmissions going from my

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 issues

2021-10-27 Thread Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel
On 27/10/2021 18:50, Greg Sieckman via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi, I upped the software not too long ago to 2.4 & have now gone to 2.5.1. Running win 10. I suddenly have the sequence of transmissions going from my RRR to CQ. I have to manually back track to send the 73. It was functioning ok

[wsjt-devel] FT8 issues

2021-10-27 Thread Greg Sieckman via wsjt-devel
Hi, I upped the software not too long ago to 2.4 & have now gone to 2.5.1. Running win 10. I suddenly have the sequence of transmissions going from my RRR to CQ. I have to manually back track to send the 73. It was functioning ok before updates: but also, at that time I had the RR73

[wsjt-devel] FT8 stops decoding after a mode change and back

2021-06-03 Thread Joe Dzekevich
WSJT-X 2.5.0 rc1 Windows 10 I was working some MA to FL Es on 50.313 on FT8 and all worked great. No problems at all. Then I switched to Q65-30A on 50.275 and called four CQs. No one around. Then I switched back to FT8 on 50.313 and the FT8 signals were not decoding. I stopped WSJT-X

Re: [wsjt-devel] [FT8-Digital-Mode] WSJT-X V2.31 Issues

2021-04-12 Thread Alan VK2ZIW via wsjt-devel
Hi all, Several ( many) years back I had the same symptoms with WSPR in that it failed after a few days and lasted longer running on machines with more memory. The problem was, not freeing up Virtual Memory after a decode cycle. On Windows systems, the problem did not surface, only on Linux.

Re: [wsjt-devel] [FT8-Digital-Mode] WSJT-X V2.31 Issues

2021-04-11 Thread William Smith
I'm seeing it too, just listening on 40M WSPR and reporting to wspr.net, and it stops working probably once a day. The waterfall stops moving and decodes stop happening. I have to stop and restart WSJT-X I'm running v2.3.1 0e7224 if it matters. I've seen similar behavior on previous

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 poor decoding problem solved

2021-03-17 Thread Don Hawbaker
an S9, or even a signal that moves my S meter. We operate in two different worlds. I just assumed the same guidelines applied. WA3RGQ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jim Brown Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:13 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 poor

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 poor decoding problem solved

2021-03-17 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/17/2021 12:29 PM, Donhawbaker wrote: The receive level, i.e. mic gain, should be set to 30, not 50 or 60. I strongly disagree with this advice when there are very strong signals present. On 6M and 160M which I most often use WSJT-X modes, I often see my neighbors decoding in the range

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 poor decoding problem solved

2021-03-17 Thread Donhawbaker
The receive level, i.e. mic gain, should be set to 30, not 50 or 60. > > On Mar 17, 2021 at 3:10 PM, (mailto:reino.tala...@kolumbus.fi)> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm passing along this info for others who might be experiencing low >

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 poor decoding problem solved

2021-03-17 Thread Reino Talarmo
I'm passing along this info for others who might be experiencing low numbers of FT8 decodes. In the past month on 3 occasions the number of FT8 decodes on very busy bands didn’t match the activity noted on the Wide Graph. Although many dozens of stations were seen, fewer than 10 were being

[wsjt-devel] FT8 poor decoding problem solved

2021-03-17 Thread Rich - K1HTV
I'm passing along this info for others who might be experiencing low numbers of FT8 decodes. In the past month on 3 occasions the number of FT8 decodes on very busy bands didn’t match the activity noted on the Wide Graph. Although many dozens of stations were seen, fewer than 10 were being

Re: [wsjt-devel] ft8 not decode I can decode ft4

2021-02-20 Thread Richard Larson via wsjt-devel
I would ask if you were on the right frequency or traditional FT8 frequency Rick KD0XD On 2/20/2021 2:09 PM, Donald Rossman wrote: I have ft8 2.2.0 I have windows 10 Ft8 not decode ft4 do decode In still t8 2.2.0 ___ wsjt-devel mailing list

Re: [wsjt-devel] ft8 not decode I can decode ft4

2021-02-20 Thread George J Molnar
Moon, we will need a little more than “it doesn’t work” to help you out. I presume you have checked your audio paths and clock? Can you provide more details of your installation and the specific problem? George, KF2T > On Feb 20, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Donald Rossman wrote: > > I have ft8 2.2.0 >

Re: [wsjt-devel] ft8 not decode I can decode ft4

2021-02-20 Thread Scott Brown
upgrade to 2.3. From: Donald Rossman Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:09 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [wsjt-devel] ft8 not decode I can decode ft4 I have ft8 2.2.0 I have windows 10 Ft8 not decode ft4 do decode In still t8 2.2.0

[wsjt-devel] ft8 not decode I can decode ft4

2021-02-20 Thread Donald Rossman
I have ft8 2.2.0 I have windows 10 Ft8 not decode ft4 do decode In still t8 2.2.0 ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

[wsjt-devel] ft8 not decode

2021-02-20 Thread Donald Rossman
Ft8 not decode I have not see ppl in ft8 I do see ppl in ft4 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Packet example

2021-01-22 Thread Reino Talarmo
>I have been digesting the "The FT4 and FT8 Communication Protocols" paper, and something is just not clicking for me, and I think I need to see it graphically. >Does anyone have or a link to a raw packet diagram for the 77 bit payload broken down by bits? My Google-fu is not paying off today.

[wsjt-devel] FT8 Packet example

2021-01-21 Thread halst...@gmail.com
I have been digesting the "The FT4 and FT8 Communication Protocols" paper, and something is just not clicking for me, and I think I need to see it graphically. Does anyone have or a link to a raw packet diagram for the 77 bit payload broken down by bits? My Google-fu is not paying off today.

Re: [wsjt-devel] [FT8-Digital-Mode] WSJT-X 2.3. RC2 on MacOS #wsjt-x

2020-11-16 Thread Philippe Nicolas
Hello Joe My problem was on macOS not on Windows but with your response, you show me the way, and for that I thank you a lot ! Indeed I could TX but get nothing from the air despite I show signals on the rig. I search in the system audio parameters and eventually discover in “Security &

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 auto-QSY ?

2020-07-01 Thread n2xk
I'm sorry I miss understood that you wanted FT8 with the boxes used on MSK144.FT8 does QSY the other station just like MSK144 if you call let's say on 7.074:CQ 080 N2XK FN20In this way you'd have to use split on the radio just as you did for JA's on 160.FredN2XKOn Jul 1, 2020 8:16 AM, Saku wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 auto-QSY ?

2020-07-01 Thread Saku
Now I have tried more. Fred you said it has been there always. Can you please tell me how I can make this box appear with FT8 mode? This clip is taken when MSK144 mode is on. When switch to FT8 it disappears. So I wonder how you make it? Saku kirjoitti 1.7.2020 klo 13.47: Really! I

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 auto-QSY ?

2020-07-01 Thread Saku
Really! I tried to be nice and  read the v2.2.2/Help/Online manual *before* posting. Used browsers "find" and found  2 hits with word QSY. First one tells how to enter frequency (the freq selector) and second describes just this MSK144/J9 fast modes case. No other hits. I have to try more.

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 auto-QSY ?

2020-07-01 Thread n2xk
FT8 already does this just as MSK144. It always has.FredN2XKOn Jul 1, 2020 4:51 AM, Saku wrote:Hi! As seen FT8 segments start to get crowded when band conditions get better. By manual MSK144 and fast JT9 modes have "QSY" feature where CQ calling station can make autoqsy for responding

[wsjt-devel] FT8 auto-QSY ?

2020-07-01 Thread Saku
Hi! As seen FT8 segments start to get crowded when band conditions get better. By manual MSK144 and fast JT9 modes have "QSY" feature where CQ calling station can make autoqsy for responding station to some free frequency. MSK144 I have tested before and it works fine. Is there any idea to

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click, sometimes wrong CallSign

2020-06-29 Thread roland.hartmann
Hi Reino, I am trying it. Until now it seems to work – thanks ! 73 Roland, DK4RH Von: Reino Talarmo Gesendet: Montag, 29. Juni 2020 19:26 An: 'WSJT software development' Betreff: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click, sometimes wrong CallSign Hi Roland, You could try use General

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click, sometimes wrong CallSign

2020-06-29 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Jun 29, 2020, at 11:25, Reino Talarmo wrote: > > Sometimes I try to answer a CQ with a double click in the Band Activity Part > - but not the station is used, which I had selected. More than likely, you are a victim of the multiple decoding cycles per 15 second sequence. The screen

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click, sometimes wrong CallSign

2020-06-29 Thread Reino Talarmo
Hi Roland, You could try use General > Display Start new period decodes at top. At least I got help. 73, Reino OH3mA From: roland.hartm...@web.de [mailto:roland.hartm...@web.de] Sent: 29. kesäkuuta 2020 19:24 To: 'WSJT software development' Subject: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Cl

[wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click, sometimes wrong CallSign

2020-06-29 Thread roland.hartmann
Think a smaller issue, but also happened on other stations: Sometimes I try to answer a CQ with a double click in the Band Activity Part - but not the station is used, which I had selected. Example: I did a double click on IU8MOA - but N9FN was used. It is almost happened, if

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observations

2020-06-22 Thread Al
Bill,   As stated in my post, replaying .wav files that where saved during when the original failure occurred does NOT cause the failure to recur.   Also note that while WSJT-X is in the fault mode, ALT-Z only clears the indicator until the next time the decoder is supposed to run (~ 12 sec ).

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observation

2020-06-22 Thread Tony
Hi Bill – Already tried using Option+letter instead of Alt+letter …. No luck. The Ctrl+letter and Shift+letter keyboard shortcuts work on the Mac keyboard with a Mac Mini … none of the Option+letter (aka Alt+letter) work in 2.2.1 as far as I can see. -Tony On 22/06/2020 11:16, Tony wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observation

2020-06-22 Thread Bill Somerville
On 22/06/2020 11:16, Tony wrote: Hi Bill – I was interested in keeping the Alt-Z shortcut in mind that you mentioned to Al.  I have found on WSJT-X 2.2.1 that most shortcuts work on my MacMini (with a Mac keyboard), but no matter what I try I can not get any of the “Alt” shortcuts to work. 

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observation

2020-06-22 Thread Tony
2020 10:10:30 -0500 From: Al To: WSJT software development Subject: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" ( WSJT-X 2.2.1, Win 10 ) From time to? time, usually while monitoring 6m over night, I ge

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observations

2020-06-21 Thread Bill Somerville
On 21/06/2020 16:10, Al wrote: ( WSJT-X 2.2.1, Win 10 ) From time to  time, usually while monitoring 6m over night, I get a a Decode lockup.  The Decode button is ON continuously, wide graph is still running, wav files still being saved and no decodes are displayed in the band activity

[wsjt-devel] FT8 Decode lockup observations

2020-06-21 Thread Al
( WSJT-X 2.2.1, Win 10 ) From time to  time, usually while monitoring 6m over night, I get a a Decode lockup.  The Decode button is ON continuously, wide graph is still running, wav files still being saved and no decodes are displayed in the band activity window. Seems more frequent with

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-06-08 Thread roland.hartmann
McDuffie Gesendet: Montag, 1. Juni 2020 07:51 An: WSJT software development Betreff: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency > On May 30, 2020, at 07:53, <mailto:roland.hartm...@web.de> > roland.hartm...@web.de wrote: >

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-05-31 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On May 30, 2020, at 07:53, roland.hartm...@web.de wrote: > > In all other cases where I was not named as receiver Rx and Tx frequency are > changed. You should check the HOLD TX box so the transmitter does NOT shift. You should not call on the other station’s frequency. Pick a clear

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-05-30 Thread roland.hartmann
0. Mai 2020 17:05 An: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency This makes sense. The calling station heard you where you are. He may not hear you if you move. 73 -Jim NU0C On Sat, 30 May 2020 15:53:18 +0200 wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-05-30 Thread Jim Shorney
This makes sense. The calling station heard you where you are. He may not hear you if you move. 73 -Jim NU0C On Sat, 30 May 2020 15:53:18 +0200 wrote: > After testing a little bit I recognize: If I do an double click in Rx > Frequency on an entry where I was named as receiver - than only

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-05-30 Thread roland.hartmann
nd - DK4RH -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Frank Hunger Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Mai 2020 13:32 An: WSJT software development Betreff: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency > Am 30.05.2020 um 12:56 schrieb > : > > Hi , >

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-05-30 Thread Frank Hunger
> Am 30.05.2020 um 12:56 schrieb > : > > Hi , > > sometimes I am trying already to answer another station - and get an answer > of a station some minutes ago. > Than I do a double click on the entry in the Rx Frequency Window. Only my > own Tx frequency is changed - the Tx frequency stay. >

[wsjt-devel] FT8: Double Click on entry in Rx Frequency only set the own Rx frequency

2020-05-30 Thread roland.hartmann
Hi , sometimes I am trying already to answer another station - and get an answer of a station some minutes ago. Than I do a double click on the entry in the Rx Frequency Window. Only my own Tx frequency is changed - the Tx frequency stay. (takes always a little bit to recognize and change also

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 with click anomaly

2020-05-28 Thread Artie Langston
I actually experienced that myself on my end once. It was solved by plugging the IC-7300 directly into the computer rather than a USB hub. I could actually see the spike on the 7300's audio scope. I caught it very quickly, but maybe that was me! :-) Artie KD0GY On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 5:01 PM

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 with click anomaly

2020-05-28 Thread George J Molnar
Sometimes hear that kind of effect showing up from an overtaxed computer. Over/under-runs and such. George J Molnar, KF2T Arlington, Virginia, USA > On May 28, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Gary McDuffie wrote: > >  > >> On May 28, 2020, at 12:33, Andy Durbin wrote: >> >> The linked WAV file was

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 with click anomaly

2020-05-28 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On May 28, 2020, at 12:33, Andy Durbin wrote: > > The linked WAV file was captured by, and edited in, Audacity. It does not > replay in WSJT-X. > > https://tinyurl.com/y8ehtrkd I don’t have a definitive answer, Andy, but have heard that myself now and then. I sometimes chalk that sort

[wsjt-devel] FT8 with click anomaly

2020-05-28 Thread Andy Durbin
I observed an FT8 signal that was "wide" in a similar way to a CW signal with key clicks. I listened to the signal and could hear what appears to be a regularly repeating series of clicks. The signal, which was from a local station, decoded normally. The linked WAV file was captured by, and

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 False Decodes 2.2.0 rc1

2020-05-16 Thread Saku
Hi! Downloaded wsjtx source from GIt yesterday and now rig model #2 Net rigctld works again as before. Fine!. Thanks ! I have used 2.2.0rc1 just few hours but noticed also one false decode on 17m band. It was claimed to be Iraq by prefix, but Grid was something CIxx At the end of the line

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 False Decodes 2.2.0 rc1

2020-05-15 Thread Stephen Ireland
Allan, I have been reporting exactly the same occurrence in exactly the same sequence in this place ! Bill has responded around 24 hours earlier ! You play recordings back and the "false decode" is not reported so its pointless posting these ! 73 Steve I VK3VM / Vk3SIR

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 False Decodes 2.2.0 rc1

2020-05-15 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Save your WAV files and submit some examples. de Mike W9MDB On Friday, May 15, 2020, 10:10:38 PM CDT, Allan VK4QG wrote: Hi All, While monitoring 6m, which for 99% of the time is very quiet here, (from a QRM and amateur activity perspective) I am getting a vast increase in the

[wsjt-devel] FT8 False Decodes 2.2.0 rc1

2020-05-15 Thread Allan VK4QG
Hi All, While monitoring 6m, which for 99% of the time is very quiet here, (from a QRM and amateur activity perspective) I am getting a vast increase in the number of false decodes with the new version 2.2.0. rc1, compared with 2.1.2.  With the previous version, I would get maybe one false

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 F/H mode - am I out of step ?

2020-02-26 Thread Frode Igland
It seems just right. According to the "RX Frequency" window you did not transmit 091645 and 091715 (no yellow line). That is the times when you see in the "Band Activity" window what was going on from all the other chasers you were able to decode. They did the same on all other 15 and 45, but you

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 F/H mode - am I out of step ?

2020-02-26 Thread George J Molnar
Looks absolutely fine George J Molnar, KF2T Arlington, Virginia, USA > On Feb 26, 2020, at 4:48 AM, runninge...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > > This morning I was trying to contact the PY0FF expedition and observed a > strange behaviour when attempting the QSO and sending my locator. > My

[wsjt-devel] FT8 F/H mode - am I out of step ?

2020-02-26 Thread runningerik
Hi, This morning I was trying to contact the PY0FF expedition and observed a strange behaviour when attempting the QSO and sending my locator. My "PY0FF ON4PB JO20" message is sent every 30 secs whereas all other stations are sending their locator in group at a specific time (see screenshot at

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 diversity patch

2020-01-21 Thread Iztok Saje
Hello! Patch now works for FT4 and FT8 with WSJTX 2.1.2, I am finalizing documentation and doing some more testing. There are three Fortran files changed, so only jt9 needs to be recompiled. As I am on Linux, I can not compile Windows version. I would kindly ask if somebody can compile

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-04 Thread Graham c
Indeed, pskreporter of course can not do anything with something it doesn't get. The dependency is of course on the client software and what it does. I did some more testing prompted by Reino's postings. FN25 VE3GHM does not get sent to pskreporter by WSJT-X, likewise nor does VE3GHM FN25. CQ

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-04 Thread Philip Gladstone
Whether PSK reporter gets to see some particular signal depends on the decoding software. It is easy enough to experiment with various transmissions and see which get reported. Use different callsigns (suffixes) so that you can tell which signals get through. On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:26 AM Reino

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-04 Thread Reino Talarmo
It seems that many, if not all messages, where the call sign is in the 'sender' position are reported to pskreporter.info. So 'DE VE3GHM FN25' would be fine, if non-standard call sign were supported with a locator. No need to use CQ, if broadcasting and not needing a response at that time. 73,

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/3/2020 9:05 AM, Christoph Berg wrote: Re: Graham c 2020-01-03 WSPR of course uploads reception reports to wsprnet.org. WSJT-X uploads FT8 reports to pskreporter.info but only for those CQ messages - as far as I know something like VE3GHM FN25 (without the CQ) would not get uploaded by

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-03 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Graham c 2020-01-03 > WSPR of course uploads reception reports to wsprnet.org. WSJT-X uploads FT8 > reports to pskreporter.info but only for those CQ messages - > as far as I know something like VE3GHM FN25 (without the CQ) would not get > uploaded by WSJT-X to pskreporter.info. Calling

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-03 Thread Graham c
Hi Reino, Belt and suspenders - WSPR is the belt and would be the primary tracking source providing, location and encoded in the power field altitude in some transmsissions, and temperature in others; FT8 would be the suspenders as a secondary mode and just provide a position using a four

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-03 Thread Reino Talarmo
>Since my call is six characters the grid gets truncated hence the reason for >my journey of discovery down the path of digging into the WSJT-X source to >understand how the standard message with non-standard call logic works. Hi Graham, You have an interesting Pico Balloon project. May I

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-03 Thread Graham c
I will do some more testing, it could have been that my testing methodology was flawed. I will play around some more with your example. yes indeed, it is getting truncated. The FT8 encoding found in Jason's NT7S JTEncode Arduino library will encode free text but nothing else. and since my call

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-02 Thread Pete
Hi Graham, I tried long long and uint64_t, and ULL. They all compile but in the end are still only 4 bytes. There are some online posts to the contrary but I couldn't get more than 4 bytes. I don't have any Arduinos any more but I tested some simple code on a Teensy2 which is still a 328

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-02 Thread Graham c
Hi Pete, Short term yes, atmega328 long term doesn't matter so much i.e. samd21, stm32, teensy or whatever. The idea is to be able to provide a secondary mode to WSPR for a Pico Balloon tracker. WSPR works well as primary mode but the desire is to have a secondary mode as well - kind of a belt

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-02 Thread Pete
Graham, The atmega328 is an 8 bit controller and Arduino is limited to 32 bits (i.e. 4 byte) and I have so far been unable to come up with some workaround that lets me do this 64 bit stuff on Arduino There is a uint64_t (and int64_t) datatype which allows you to work with a 64-bit word on

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2020 02:15, Graham c wrote: I have been working through the code that does the encoding of standard messages in FT8 with a goal of creating a simplified version that can compiled and used on an atmega328 processor (i.e. Arduino). There is an Arduino library called JTEncode which

[wsjt-devel] FT8 encoding logic

2020-01-01 Thread Graham c
I have been working through the code that does the encoding of standard messages in FT8 with a goal of creating a simplified version that can compiled and used on an atmega328 processor (i.e. Arduino). There is an Arduino library called JTEncode which includes FT8 but this only encodes free text

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-23 Thread Claude Frantz
On 11/23/19 5:21 AM, Jim Brown wrote: I see FT8 and DXpedition mode to be the greatest thing to happen to the little pistol station since I learned CW 60 years ago. That is exactly my opinion, too. Claude (DJ0OT) ___ wsjt-devel mailing list

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread jarmo
Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:21:47 -0800 Jim Brown kirjoitti: > On 11/22/2019 2:33 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: > > and FOX mode is playing a big part in the success of that. > > I see FT8 and DXpedition mode to be the greatest thing to happen to > the little pistol station since I learned CW 60 years ago.

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/22/2019 2:33 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: and FOX mode is playing a big part in the success of that. I see FT8 and DXpedition mode to be the greatest thing to happen to the little pistol station since I learned CW 60 years ago. 73, Jim K9YC ___

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Frantz
On 11/19/19 at 8:01 AM, iztok.s...@telekom.si (Iztok Saje) wrote: Hi! On band activity: how about ALL.TXT? On linux: tail -f ALL.TXT |grep -v A35JT would give nice idea what is going on the band segment. I assume ALL.TXT works in Fox mode, and there are similar commands in Windows as well.

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Grant VK5GR
: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator Grant -- You asked me to take our exchanges off-list, but then you seem to have reverted to the list. So for the record, I'll respond here. As I explained to you off-list, the ALL.TXT file in WSJT-X 2.1.0 provides the information you asked

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Joe Taylor
Grant -- You asked me to take our exchanges off-list, but then you seem to have reverted to the list. So for the record, I'll respond here. As I explained to you off-list, the ALL.TXT file in WSJT-X 2.1.0 provides the information you asked for, in real time. Perhaps we can furnish this

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Reino Talarmo
Hi Grant, I assume that the timestamps in the ALL.TXT are taken from the slot time counter at the moment, when software has performed its reception decoding. If the decoding happens to take place after the start of the next transmission, then the time indicated is wrong. That may or may not

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Grant Willis
Steve, Sorry that is my mistake. It was an incorrect memory based on when I was reviewing the ALL.TXT file trying to find broken log records when we got home after A35JT. (I had discovered that ALL.TXT didnt store the TX strings from the FOX transmissions - instead it only stored one string and

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 16:55, Carl Buehler wrote: > > How long does it take, after making the request, to be taken off this list? > K9ZA Should be immediate right after you REMOVE YOURSELF. Gary ___ wsjt-devel mailing list

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Carl Buehler
How long does it take, after making the request, to be taken off this list? K9ZA On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 07:22 Iztok Saje wrote: > Hi! > > On band activity: how about ALL.TXT? > > On linux: > tail -f ALL.TXT |grep -v A35JT > > would give nice idea what is going on the band segment. > I assume

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Steven Franke via wsjt-devel
Grant, > On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: > > Folks, > > ALL.TXT is not populated when in FOX mode in 2.1.0 - I checked the logs from > A35JT. Only when we were in standard mode was it being updated. I am not able to reproduce this. I have just tested v2.1.0 here on Linux and

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Grant VK5GR
November 2019 3:55 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator Hi! Let wsjtx dev team focus on hard stuff, and use support programs for the rest. While proposed tail -f can do the job, I think it is relatively easy to hack small program

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Iztok Saje
Hi! Let wsjtx dev team focus on hard stuff, and use support programs for the rest. While proposed tail -f can do the job, I think it is relatively easy to hack small program that reads last lines in ALL.TXT every 15 seconds and make small screen supporting Fox operation. Is frequency clean?

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Grant VK5GR
George, Allow me to answer your questions in line: | Aren’t major efforts (those we expect to use F/H) frequencies pre-coordinated and published in advance of the trip? You would like to think so. In practice despite trying to do just that the larger expeditions just took the

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread George J Molnar
A couple recent comments on Fox/Hound mode have me perplexed. Aren’t major efforts (those we expect to use F/H) frequencies pre-coordinated and published in advance of the trip? Do holiday-style trips really need F/H? Major dxpeditions should never operate in the standard watering holes,

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread George J Molnar
Please forgive what may be ridiculous questions. Some are for foxes, others for hounds. Fox/Hound operation should only be carried out away from the main “watering holes,” right? For expeditions, isn’t it standard practice to coordinate with other expeditions before leaving home to ensure

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread David Gilbert
I don't use Fox/Hound, of course, but it seems to me that VK5GR's request when using it is legitimate.  I wouldn't have said anything at all if it weren't for the dev reply that cited a lack of screen real estate as the reason for not addressing it. It's not bitching to point out the

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Joe Taylor
Grant -- On 11/19/2019 4:36 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: We tested a lot of the station before we left - as much functionality and hardware as we could in fact. However in the case of FOX mode, that is something that is extremely difficult to test ... Actually, the disabling of *Tx Enable* after

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel
Fred, I see no bitching here, just friendy questions and mostly very polite answers. 73 de Tom OH6VDA (occasionally semi-rare JW6VDA) Sendt fra min iPad Air 2 > 20. nov. 2019 kl. 13:34 skrev Fred Price : > >  > Ya know if you so much want this why not open your computer and reprogram the >

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Fred Price
Ya know if you so much want this why not open your computer and reprogram the interface yourself? What's it take 30 seconds to open settings or change a config? Is the DX going to disappear in that time? I guess everyone forgot about when the NA contest mode had a check box on the GUI. So many

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Melvin
Dave There is not a lot of space under the 'Auto Seq' box - I will agree date and time could be smaller - but disagree as to the DX Call/Grid - they need to be easily seen/entered for distance/Bearing - my eyes are not quite what the were a few years back and with all the different

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-19 Thread David Gilbert
If anyone was seriously concerned about real estate usage in the WSJT-X user window there wouldn't be all that wasted space in the lower left corner for any of the modes.  The Frequency display doesn't need to be anywhere near that large, DX Call and DX Grid is mostly superfluous, the size

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