Re: [Zen] Some of us..(to Steve)

Steve, the highlighted sections of the article below summarize what I was taught about 'emptiness' by Tibetan Buddhist teachers. --ED Nagarjuna's Seventy Verses on Emptiness Nagarjuna (who lived during the second century C.E) is regarded as the founder of the Madhyamaka school of Mahayana B

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

These issues are a huge can of worms I am unwilling to discuss for a variety of reasons, but especially as I to not perceive a strong connection to dharma, unless you convince me otherwise. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ChrisAustinLane wrote: > > I am almost certain that training I have go

Re: [Zen] Some of us..(to Steve)

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel wrote: > > Hi Steve >   > Thanks for that one as well >   > Buddha be praised > Mel > Hi Mel. I hope you are well. This is something that I think should be kept in mind when reading the Sutras. Some literature, such as the Prajnaparamita literature, ap

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Indeed. Directly experience it is the best way without any detour at all. We are after all "it"... Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 4:18 PM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Realization(to JMJM)

Thank you, Mel. Sometimes, Rinzai works. Sometimes the Soto way works. Sometimes silence works. Sometimes a slap works. When we are no one, we can be anyone at any time. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 9:42

[Zen] Realization(to JMJM)

ED: Mel, I humbly request that you not include my name in the subject line of a post. JMJM: Why, ED? MEL: Hi JMJM(*smiles*). I wouldn't worry too much about it Buddha be praised Mel

[Zen] Some of us..(to Steve)

Hi Steve   Thanks for that one as well   Buddha be praised Mel --- On Tue, 8/3/11, SteveW wrote: Some Buddhist documents deliberately use negative language, while other documents deliberately use positive language. But all language fails, imo. We can't really talk about it, but we can taste it.

[Zen] Two Potent Quotes(to Steve/list)

Yay!! At last, somebody had finally pointed this out. Thank you Steve! When I was in my 20s, I dated a highly-driven career-type woman who was frustrated with me to no end because I couldn't answer the.   ...'Mel, I just want a straight answer: where do you see yourself in 5 years time?'

[Zen] Realization

Done MEL --- On Tue, 8/3/11, ED wrote: Mel, I humbly request that you not include my name in the subject line of a post. Thanks, ED

[Zen] Two Potent Quotes(to Mike/list)

Hi Mike That was beautiful. Thank you Buddha be praised Mel --- On Tue, 8/3/11, mike brown wrote:   I've heard it said that we climb the mountain of enlightenment for ourselves and climb back down for others. I'm still on the way up so I can't speak for the masters. It's a dangerous thing to

[Zen] Realization(to Mayka/list)

--- On Mon, 7/3/11, Maria Lopez wrote: MAYKA: Reciprocated smiles to you. Thank you Mel for your warm response and insight; MEL: Hey there, sister in faith!(*smiles*)   M: It must be difficult for ED to get into the real thing through just reading in internet.  MEL:...*laughter*...It certa

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

At the time, in the moment, it is clear. I did not mean something which would be labelled appropriate, but acting appropriately. On Mar 7, 2011 7:57 PM, "mike brown" wrote: Chris, >"...and able to see when action is appropriate." When (before or after) and who (the doer or the wider co

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

JM,   >Personally I think Steve got me beaten with his "dance" parallel.    A dharma duet!   Mike

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Chris,   >"...and able to see when action is appropriate."     When (before or after) and who (the doer or the wider community) labels the actions "appropriate"?   Mike

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Thank you for the link, Steve. No problem. I always "labeled" Jesus as a Buddhist...though both Buddhists and Christians are also labeled as Chanists... Oh, on second thought, perhaps I may just have to abandon all the labels, after all spirituality and labels are in two different realm

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

I am almost certain that training I have gotten in "how to communicate well" does include some sort of assess your audience step. I sure respond to people more skillfully when I know them better, including my mental model of their intentions. Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone

Re: [Zen] just checking

Look in the spam folder and find the messages and then try to find a way in your spam settings to allow emails from that sender through. Edgar On Mar 7, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Maria Lopez wrote: > Edgar: > > The spam folder is set down by itself. How can I change its settings?. I > see nowher

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > > My teacher said, "..emptiness is not emptiness... there is indescribable > and exquisite existence..no form is true form "... Hi JM. Yes. Some Buddhist documents deliberately use negative language, while o

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > I don't seem to have all the quotes you did from Gospel of Thomas. Do > you have an online reference? > > Much Obliged, > JM > Hi JM. Here's a decent translation. http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/g

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Beautiful. Thank you Steve. Thank you TS Eliot. My teacher said, "..emptiness is not emptiness... there is indescribable and exquisite existence..no form is true form "... Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 1:21 PM

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Hi Steve, I don't seem to have all the quotes you did from Gospel of Thomas. Do you have an online reference? Much Obliged, JM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 1:50 PM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > Steve: >   > Why one would like to reign over all?.  What an exhausted work will be > that!. .    The only way I would like to reign is in the kingdom > within myself.  And once I manage that...I don't know.   >   > Mayka > Â

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

What a dharma ED and yourself conversation!.  Thank you Mayka --- On Mon, 7/3/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Subject: Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 7 March, 2011, 20:42   Thank you, ED. The key

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Steve:   Why one would like to reign over all?.  What an exhausted work will be that!. .The only way I would like to reign is in the kingdom within myself.  And once I manage that...I don't know.     Mayka     --- On Mon, 7/3/11, SteveW wrote: From: SteveW Subject: Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > Steve; >   > You're humble now.  It was an inspiring post .  I like it too very much. So > it did JMJM and almost positive everyone else. Thank you. >   > Mayka >   > > Hi Mayka. Don't be fooled. It's all "false modesty"! ;-) "Let

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

So do I Steve! --- On Mon, 7/3/11, SteveW wrote: From: SteveW Subject: Re: [Zen] Some of us.. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 7 March, 2011, 21:41   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > JMJM; >   > Steve didn't beat you with the dance and you electrocu

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Steve;   You're humble now.  It was an inspiring post .  I like it too very much. So it did JMJM and almost positive everyone else. Thank you.   Mayka   --- On Mon, 7/3/11, SteveW wrote: From: SteveW Subject: Re: [Zen] Some of us.. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 7 March, 2011, 21:

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > JMJM; >   > Steve didn't beat you with the dance and you electrocuted him with the > electricity!.  Haha!!!.      >   >  Mayka >   > Hi Mayka. I always find JM's posts electrifying! ;-) Steve >

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

JMJM;   Steve didn't beat you with the dance and you electrocuted him with the electricity!.  Haha!!!.     Mayka           --- On Mon, 7/3/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Subject: Re: [Zen] Some of us.. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 7

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > > Hello Mayka, > > That was trying to develop a "high-tech" parallel to the realization. > Personally I think Steve got me beaten with his "dance" parallel. It is > fun, real, down to earth and romantique. > > :-

Re: [Zen] just checking

Edgar:   The spam folder is set down by itself.  How can I change its settings?.  I see nowhere edit on it.   Thanks Mayka --- On Mon, 7/3/11, Edgar Owen wrote: From: Edgar Owen Subject: Re: [Zen] just checking To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 7 March, 2011, 11:42   Mayka,

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Thank you, ED. The key is in the moment when you answered my last three posts. You are the only one who would know how that felt. Is it the same as when you replied this one? Dharma is in every moment. Truth is in every moment. Chan is in every moment. They are not in the words you or

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED,   Ok, I've found some (Wikipedia) answers, so now I'm going to sleep   Sleep is a naturally recurring state characterized by reduced or lacking consciousness, relatively suspended sensory activity, and inactivity of nearly all voluntary muscles.[1] It is distinguished from quiet wakefulness

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Mike, (I will take the bait! ;-) ) Just sit, and the answers will come to you. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > ED, How should I 'just sit'? Is sitting in a comfy chair ok or should I be in the full-lotus? How did the ancient masters sit and what benefit was it

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

JMJM, You have always been free to work on mine. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > > Actually ED, I may need you to work on mine. You may need me to work > on yours... > > Isn't this a scary thought? > > :-)

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, How should I 'just sit'? Is sitting in a comfy chair ok or should I be in the full-lotus? How did the ancient masters sit and what benefit was it to their hemorrhoids? Mike From: ED To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 March, 2011 4:26:19 Subjec

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Actually ED, I may need you to work on mine. You may need me to work on yours... Isn't this a scary thought? :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 11:18 AM, ED wrote: JMJM, you work on what you think you need to wo

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Mike, Just sit and be with the feeling. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > ED, Damn, that was boring Mike Mike, No weapons. No dharma combat. A mondo between peers. I use expedient means unconstrained by Zen manuals. --ED > ED, > > >Mu! > > Haha!

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, Damn, that was boring Mike From: ED To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 March, 2011 4:12:31 Subject: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes   Mike, No weapons. No dharma combat. A mondo between peers. I use expedient means unconstrained by Zen manuals.

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

JMJM, you work on what you think you need to work on, and I will do likewise. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > Hi ED, Buddhist teaches the self refection as five poisons -- "greed, anger, arrogance, delusions and suspicion."Â Whatever I think of you or you

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Hi ED, Buddhist teaches the self refection as five poisons -- "greed, anger, arrogance, delusions and suspicion." Whatever I think of you or you think of me is a reflection of ourselves. Perhaps we can also reflect on what Eckhart's statement, "all resistance, no matter what, is a reflectio

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Mike, No weapons. No dharma combat. A mondo between peers. I use expedient means unconstrained by Zen manuals. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > > ED, > > >Mu! > > Haha! If you want to challenge me to a 'dharma duel', then you at least have to > recognise the wea

Re: [Zen] Some of us..

Hello Mayka, That was trying to develop a "high-tech" parallel to the realization. Personally I think Steve got me beaten with his "dance" parallel. It is fun, real, down to earth and romantique. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

JMJM, I believe that you believe that you experience that your heart is always open. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > ED, My heart is always open... :-) JMJM, I do not recall having said anything of the sort. What I *have* asserted is that perceivingÂ

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Again JMJM, Your trying to connect to my heart, if done with good intention as perceived by yourself, is skillful, wholesome and compassionate. Whether I am concerned or not is a matter for me to ponder. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > Trying to connect

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

ED, My heart is always open... :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 10:49 AM, ED wrote: JMJM, I do not recall having said anything of the sort. What I *have* asserted is that perceiving one's *own* motivation in ev

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Glad that my fragmentary post made sense. Awakened vs. awakening seems to me to reflect humanity's love of dualistic thinking. Anyone that is saying that "Just become enlightened and all the suffering and work that is humanity near term future (at the very least) will become trivially solved" is

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, >Mu! Haha! If you want to challenge me to a 'dharma duel', then you at least have to recognise the weapons, let alone know how to use them! Mike From: ED To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 March, 2011 2:45:25 Subject: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

JMJM, I do not recall having said anything of the sort. What I *have* asserted is that perceiving one's *own* motivation in every arising thought, of every word and in every action is of the essence. 'awareness and motivation' ('attention and intention') are the crux of the matter. There is

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED,   >Beyond words?   Why even bother asking , "Beyond words?", when you'll only except words to answer it?!   Mike

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Trying to connect my heart to yours... Are you concerned? :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 10:09 AM, ED wrote: JMJM, If I revealed my 'motivation', what would you do with the information? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoo

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > > > > > So, ED, it sounds like for you a path of social service or of engaged > > compassion would be more appealing than a path of meditation. That > seems > > fine. > > I sa

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

I like that. But there is 'awakening' and then there is 'awakened'. It's a complex business! Beyond words? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > Perhaps it is useful to remind ourselves that "enlightenment" is a Christian > term and concept. The historical term as

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

JMJM, If I revealed my 'motivation', what would you do with the information? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > > Just trying to learn about your "motivation" as you requested. :-) > > Why not, JMJM? > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming w

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > > > After that, of what extra benefit to humankind was her life? > > Hi ED. Zen people are an aimless, useless lot, going nowhere and doing nothing! Steve > Current Book Discussion: any Zen

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Just trying to learn about your "motivation" as you requested. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 9:42 AM, ED wrote: Why not, JMJM? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Why, ED? Mel,

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Perhaps it is useful to remind ourselves that "enlightenment" is a Christian term and concept. The historical term associated with Zen is awakening, which is much less absolute and much more capture On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:40 AM, ED wrote: > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Aust

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > How do the masters use their knowledge of the truth that they have have > found? > > How do kensho-struck Zenists in the West use their knowledge of the > truth they have tasted? > > Hi ED. They eat when they are hungry and sleep when the

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, Do they? Do you? I can't. How often do you carry out your day-to-day chores fully engaged? If we can't even drink a cup of tea in peace, how can we possibly not get caught up in the stresses and tensions of the usual day? True peace of mind isn't found sitting by a babbling brook in a ding

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Mu! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > > ED, My comments are embedded below: > Why should there be something 'extra'? These no need at all. To me the transformation is significant if it enhances active compassion. Otherwise, I am underwhelmed. If compassion did

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Why not, JMJM? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Why, ED? Mel, I humbly request that you not include my name in the subject line of a post. Thanks, ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com , Mel wrote: > > Damn, I tried but I just couldn't keep away. Hey there M

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > > So, ED, it sounds like for you a path of social service or of engaged > compassion would be more appealing than a path of meditation. That seems > fine. I said was unimpresed by a person's enlightenment, if it does not push him to

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED,   My comments are embedded below:   > Why should there be something 'extra'? These no need at all. To me the transformation is significant if it enhances active compassion. Otherwise, I am underwhelmed.   If compassion didn't arise then it wouldn't be enlightenment. 'Active' compassion is s

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Why, ED? Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 9:02 AM, ED wrote: Mel, I humbly request that you not include my name in the subject line of a post. Thanks, ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Sorry, I bumped the send button too soon. So, ED, it sounds like for you a path of social service or of engaged compassion would be more appealing than a path of meditation. That seems fine. Zen advertises itself as being of no merit, no goal, and it does indeed seem to meet that promise. If zen

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Mel, I humbly request that you not include my name in the subject line of a post. Thanks, ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel wrote: > > Damn, I tried but I just couldn't keep away. Hey there Mayka(*smiles*). ED, this is one of those things about Zen...people/objects/otherwise annoyi

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, I've heard it said that we climb the mountain of enlightenment for ourselves and climb back down for others. I'm still on the way up so I can't speak for the masters. It's a dangerous thing to think that after kensho 'this is it!' (have you heard 'The devil in the hole' koan?). It is it, b

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

It sounds then ED that perhapsby On Mar 7, 2011 8:35 AM, "ED" wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > > ED, > > Why should there be something 'extra'? These no need at all. To me the transformation is significant if it enhances active compassion. Otherwise, I am unde

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > > ED, > > Why should there be something 'extra'? These no need at all. To me the transformation is significant if it enhances active compassion. Otherwise, I am underwhelmed. > Isn't breaking free of falsity and living in the truth enou

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" wrote: > > Simple, I eat when I'm hungry and sleep when I'm tired. Yes, and non-Zenists do that too. > It's the ability to see what needs to be done and simply doing that. Yes, and non-Zenists do that too. Take care of the Universe around you. Incl

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, Why should there be something 'extra'? Isn't breaking free of falsity and living in the truth enough? Her enlightenment enlightens all of us. In fact the entire universe (which is nothng more than mind) is enlightened. What more would you have her do? Mike ___

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

Simple, I east when I'm hungry and sleep when I'm tired. It's the ability to see what needs to be done and simply doing that. Take care of the Universe around you. Including you. Guy --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > How do the masters use their knowledge of the trut

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

After that, of what extra benefit to humankind was her life? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > > I remember reading a book about an English woman who became a Tibetan buddhist nun and went there to meditate in a cave for 3 years. When she was first exposed to Buddhism sh

[Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

How do the masters use their knowledge of the truth that they have have found? How do kensho-struck Zenists in the West use their knowledge of the truth they have tasted? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote: > > All the masters say desiring, or striving, for the truth takes us

Re: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

ED, Isn't this the shadow side of trying to grasp an (intellectual!) understanding of Zen tho?- the feeling that the answer lies just around the corner: 'if I just read one more book, ask one more question, sit a bit longer, try to be more mindful tomorrow etc. All the masters say desiring, or

Re: [Zen] just checking

Well, this one came up on my Yahoo account, but the one I re-sent for ED hasn't. Anyway, it sucks re-sending an already sent post - a bit like being on stage and having to explain a joke people didn't get the first time (my apologys ED if you got the same post twice). Mike __

Re: [Zen] just checking

Mayka and Edgar, Thanls for letting me know, guys! I'll repost the 2 replies I sent today and see if they work (Don't anyone worry about reading them twice - you're sure to be enlightened if you do). Mike From: Edgar Owen To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent

Re: [Zen] just checking

Mayka, This is a setting in your own spam folder you need to change. Edgar On Mar 7, 2011, at 5:32 AM, Maria Lopez wrote: > Mike: > > I have received the posting you mention in the spam folder as all posting > from you. Yours is the only posting that I keep receiving at all times in >

Re: [Zen] just checking

Mike:   I have received the posting you mention in the spam folder as all posting from you.  Yours is the only posting that I keep receiving at all times in the spam folder.  Why is yahoo doing this, I don't know.  Perhaps Bill or Edgar can report it as this seem to be a fix error from the group

[Zen] just checking

Bill!, Usually when I post, I see my name come up on my yahoo mail, but as of this morning (I posted 2 responses - both to Ed - about 7 or 8 hours ago). Did they appear on the forum? Cheers, Mike

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

Reciprocated smiles to you. Thank you Mel for your warm response and insight;   It must be difficult for ED to get into the real thing through just reading in internet.  If he only could understand that our sayings have nothing to do of putting him down but well on the contrary, to release him fr

[Zen] Re: What is the equivalent of 'pure awareness' in Zen?

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > Steve. > > Well said! > > So what sort of mind or intellect should we bring to the Zen Forum? > > --ED > > What mind do you use to carry the other minds around in? And if you use that mind to carry other minds, which mind is you? Sa