[Zen] Re: Three Buddhist Practices

2010-11-23 Thread ED
The Noble Eightfold Path 1. Right View <#Right_View> Wisdom 2. Right Intention <#Right_Intention> 3. Right Speech <#Right_Speech> Ethical Conduct 4. Right Action <#Right_Action> 5. Right Livelihood <#Right_Livelihood> 6. Right Effort <#Right_Effort> Mental Development 7. Right Mind

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread ED
Definitions of shikantaza on the Web: * Shikantaza|`üŠÇ`ō¿ is a Japanese term for zazen introduced by Rujing and associated most with the Soto school of Zen Buddhism, but which also is "the base of all Zen disciplines." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikantaza

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread ED
My belief about a koan is that your response, verbal and/or non-verbal, and your body language in particular, confirms in the Zen Master (who can read you like an open book in any case) as to the state of evolution of your heart-mind. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, siska_...@... wrot

[Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Bill, You stated that Shigantaza is "just this". If "just this" is indeed Shigantaza, as you stated, now I would understand finally why you channel most postings to "just this" as the singular truth and others as "illusory". For us to communicate better, I like to clarify some of the ter

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Kristy,   Thank you. Can you explain further who is Blaise Pascal?   Anthony --- On Tue, 23/11/10, Kristy McClain wrote: From: Kristy McClain Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 8:20 AM   Bill / Anthony,   You did no

Re: [Zen] Three Buddhist Practices

2010-11-23 Thread Anthony Wu
JMJM,   Most of your remarks make sense. But there is a problem with the following:   Most of us consider kensho a result of stillness, but you think it the other way around.   Yes, the Sixth Patriarch did not write, because he was unable to. He was illiterate. That does not mean he did not want

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Then I answer you as follows:   We need a deterrent to make Hitler and the like gentle lambs, so that they can be your companions on the way to heaven.   Anthony --- On Tue, 23/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book To: Z

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   Refers to zazen without any specific focus or technique. So JM's Heart Chan is different, as he cultivates 'chi', instead of no technique. I think this is the key point that zazen has no focus or technique, while sitting with other schools involves manipulating chi, or concentration on an

Re: [Zen] Three Buddhist Practices

2010-11-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Anthony, 1. Yes, you are right。 Kensho『見性』 is resulted from sitting, which is a state before Samadhi『三摩地』。All these descriptions are resulted from sitting. No different from describing the taste of Apple. 2. Don't know what you were trying to say. 3. Heart is everything you were talkin

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
rks containing koans such as these are THE GATELESS GATE and THE BLUE CLIFF RECORD. > > The quality that makes a koan a koan is that it is a direct expression of Buddha Nature. > > ...Bill!   __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature d

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
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Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
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Re: [Zen] Three Buddhist Practices

2010-11-23 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > > Hi Anthony, > > 1. Yes, you are right, Kensho is resulted from sitting, which is a state before Samadhi ... "Student: What is the relationship between samadhi and kensho? Daido Roshi: Samadhi can eventually lead to kensho. Ken

RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
". All includes the life force and wisdom of the universal essence as well as all the transient, relative and impermanent forms. Then we are whole and complete. Otherwise, we are still practicing a incomplete practice. JMJM -- Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogsp

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-23 Thread BillSmart
meant 'clear mind'. See > the quotes attributed to Rujing and Dogen Zenji in the definition in my post > below. Perhaps it is an extreme interpretation of 'just sit' which means you > are just sitting and not thinking or doing anything else. __ Informati