Re: [Zope-dev] vyshakh krishnan wants to chat

to the invitation system. I've seen a couple of those talk to Zope mailinglists recently. Can you *please* avoid putting mailing list addresses into those systems? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Uses of the ZTK and how it relates to management

On 03/04/2010 11:35 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: A thought that came up when reading this paragraph: another option restructuring/grouping to reduce the amount of packages may be to join smaller packages with weird

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

Hi, On 03/04/2010 09:17 PM, Sebastien Douche wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 17:32, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: here's my first shot at a summary of today's meeting. I found the meeting itself very positive and energetic - thanks again to everyone who joined. The current state

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

noticed that the health agency runs Windows tests. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Automating tests of the ZTK / zopeapp package sets

to help out here. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope3 sessions and database conflicts

sessions where just the access to the session would create a new session even if it was never touched. The API actually provides two invokations: one to get a session and create if not existing, the other got get a session and raise a KeyError instead of creating a new one. -- Christian Theune · c

Re: [Zope-dev] Uses of the ZTK and how it relates to management

is that we would have to impose a rule which requires cool down time after a checkin before making a release. That's probably not a terrible thing anyway. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Uses of the ZTK and how it relates to management

in Dresden I'd love to see as many of you zope-dev guys here in our offices. :) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

[Zope-dev] ZTK compatibility testing

? Should we accept breakage of all trunks with each other or not? Also, there is not version of the ZTK (I think) that specifies 'use the trunk of everything', right? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

blog? :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Stop energy

Hi, On 03/03/2010 04:56 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Morning, On 03/02/2010 07:09 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Chris McDonough suggests to ponder further structuring of the ZTK into separate sub-sets which might

Re: [Zope-dev] Stop energy

had lately: grouping the 65 packages into chunks that are easier to keep in your head and to communicate to the outside world. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49

Re: [Zope-dev] Uses of the ZTK and how it relates to management

ones again. (Not that I suggest this to be an ultimate option, nor do I know from the top of my head any candidates for this, but we can keep that on the list of options we have.) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/tseaver-clarify_install_docs/doc/ Split out docs for 'normal' installation from those using 'zc.buildout'.

a tool for that but we decided it not to be built into Zope itself. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

[Zope-dev] Reminder: IRC meeting today at 3pm UTC

/ working on bugs regularly Frameworks - Will Zope 2.13 use the ZTK? - Zope 3.5 release I think that will already be enough stuff for 30 minutes. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel

[Zope-dev] Reminder: IRC meeting today at 3pm UTC

stuff for 30 minutes. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic

Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: IRC meeting today at 3pm UTC

On 03/02/2010 09:47 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 3/2/10 09:31 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, today we'll start the experiment of having a short IRC meeting to talk about organisational issues. I've had some input for the agenda and mixed with my own questions here's the list of topics

Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: IRC meeting today at 3pm UTC

On 03/02/2010 09:31 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, today we'll start the experiment of having a short IRC meeting to talk about organisational issues. Oh, and it's supposed to be #zope (*not* #zope3-dev) on freenode. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

[Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

(or link to them) somewhere and maybe tell me for the future. Cheers, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

. ;) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

is not able to represent the structural properties of a URL in http scheme properly, thus encoding back to ASCII is not possible. Can someone confirm or disprove this? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

On 03/01/2010 03:34 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 3/1/10 15:09 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, On 03/01/2010 02:28 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm with Wichert here. In most places, we tend to carry around unicode strings internally, and only encode on the boundaries, e.g. when the URL

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

on the scheme) you need to quote it. OTOH encoding is done only on non-ascii characters. Supposed that the encoding is utf-8. What's hardwired into absoluteURL. But then again, it's not UTF-8 for all of the URL. No spec ever says code path elements to UTF-8. Christian -- Christian Theune · c

[Zope-dev] Developer IRC meeting on#zope next Tuesday at 3pm UTC

balancing that. Cheers, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic

[Zope-dev] 01797808...@t-mobile-sms.de

asdf -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] 01797808...@t-mobile-sms.de

On 02/27/2010 11:01 AM, Christian Theune wrote: asdf Ouch. Sorry. My mail client betrayed me. Feel free to spam my mobile phone now ... :/ -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer IRC meeting on#zope next Tuesday at 3pm UTC

people's ideas flowing, too. Good point - I'll try to remember that. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] redirect burps on unicode URLs

. Other suggestions? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form vs. Invalid exceptions

with a test. You can also release a new z3c.form version if you like. I can give you access Fixed. I also added the behaviour to not render anything for a non-200 request. Yay! -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany

Re: [Zope-dev] Adding W3C validating to zope.testbrowser

an option then which can influence that switch beforehand. (E.g. via a feature) I think that's one of the valid use cases of arbitrary plugins for the test runner. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

see where improvements could happen is that packages might be able to provide UI components that get re-used within the various frameworks. Just a quick thought from my side, though. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

will probably use Twitter as the ZMI ... SCNR -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing coverage support

only figured that out by reading the source. Also, if this functionality is useful, I'd rather see this folded into the mainstream runner. At some point, the test runner recipe could also be provided by the zope.testing package itself IMHO. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.authentication

for that though. And I think architectural changes don't need to be implemented within days or weeks. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.authentication

here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zopetoolkit/ Also, can you add a proposal page to the documentation that points out what you already implemented and what you intend to achieve globally? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle

Re: [Zope-dev] vocabularies missing wihtout zope.app.schema

a registry concept, though. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Adapter registration in ZCML provides IUserPreferredCharsets lost ?

statement might continue living there. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4 and the way forward

. And also because it would help us get rid of the somewhat confusing Zope 3 terminology. Hmm. Just because I've been lagging and do get some newcomer questions here and there: is there an overview of what KGSs exist and what they mean? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co

Re: [Zope-dev] quitting the ZTK steering group

and if you don't get reverted then we were able to act quicker than having lengthy discussions at all times. Right now, I think I need to ponder the structure for a while and discuss with Stephan and Jim how they think about what's happened. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.authentication

a proposal for that stuff. If it's a pure dependency refactoring, well then, that's what we already all agreed about. Isn't it? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.authentication

:) However, I'll polish a bit zope.plugabbleauth and it will be eligible for a release, I guess. Sounds like a plan. :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889

Re: [Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design

WRT logos, maybe. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing coverage support

there. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.authentication

with it I feel the urge to do so. There's also subtle API annoyances that I'd like to get rid of but don't remember exactly right now. How about a specific proposal? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Wrong check out path on zope site

://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope3/branches/3.4 Zope Can someone correct this please. Fixed in Subversion. The docs should be updated automatically soon. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.form and zope.formlib

on zope.app.form anymore either, instead zope.app.form depends on zope.formlib. Sounds about right to me. :) I'm actually happy seeing those cleaned up -- as much as I like z3c.form I do tend to go with formlib here and there because it's a well known area to me. :) Christian -- Christian Theune · c

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

will be in zope and zope.app namespaces. BTW, the original meaning of BlueBream is same as that of Zope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus Oh cool. +1 -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing.doctestunit and BBB

will raise a warning. A new release would | be great, I guess. Christian, what do you say? I'm sorry, I was out of the loop for a while. Is this about getting rid of our own doctest and relying on Python's standard doctest module? Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co

[Zope-dev] zope.testing feature creep in release (WAS: zope.testing.doctestunit and BBB)

the trunk at all start hurting us here as we're getting lost in our own policy. Any ideas for limiting feature creep? Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889

Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?

and the page shows fine now. Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?

/ Reviewed and merged. I made some minor textual changes, otherwise that code was fine. Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] Copyright header change script ready

Hi, On 12/18/2009 11:27 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi, after transferring the code ownership from ZC to the ZF we need to change copyright headers in the repository. I wrote a script [1][2] to help doing that (changing the trunks and last two release branches) which

[Zope-dev] Copyright header change script ready

://svn.zope.org/?view=revrev=106694 -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces vs ZCA concepts

. That sounds a lot like what the SQLAlchemy guys did with their attrgetter (well, that was 2007 IIRC so they might be doing something even more fun by now. Just in case someone goes for hunting down a fast pluggable __getattr__-alike. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing.testrunner.debug.post_mortem and try/finally

. If no one else gets around to that, I might. One day. Well, if someone threw this code in the bug tracker on the wish list, then it's even more likely someone will get around to do it. Some day. ;) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle

Re: [Zope-dev] the ZCA API decision

. Silence is assent. :)] I'm assenting loudly as I'm happy to see progress on this issue. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] improving the utility and adapter lookup APIs

specific adapter that would have been invoked if the former wasn't there. The use case is similar: delegate to a default. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345

Re: [Zope-dev] Object schema field validation

find it in the archive? Thanks and kind regards, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] make zope.component.registry.Components inherit from dict?

dict. Just for clarification as I'm confused now from reading the back-and-forth-maybe-lets-not-play-together stuff all at once: that means you're going down an incompatible route rolling your own convenience mechanism? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

Re: [Zope-dev] improving the utility and adapter lookup APIs

with that but I'm relatively sure it's a valid implementation of Thomas' suggestions. Tres? -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] improving the utility and adapter lookup APIs

implementation and then make backwards compatibility work. (I know, I'm a dreamer ...) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?

still on my todo list and I'll get to it at some point ... maybe even during this week. ;) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] Contributing initgroups upstream

.) of the same code. Just for belt-and-suspeders: as a ZF board member, I would certainly vote to contribute the code to Python. Same here - discussing about this issue takes longer than writing the code from scratch :) Another me too. :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh

[Zope-dev] Packing and GC versus packtime

its thing exactly. The question can also be phrased as: Are the operations pack and append transaction for storages commutative? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax

Re: [Zope-dev] Packing and GC versus packtime

On 11/09/2009 01:22 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'm wondering: Scenario 1: I pack a storage to a time T and append X transactions after that Scenario 2: I append X transactions to a storage and then pack it to time T. Will those scenarios end up with the same result? I can

Re: [Zope-dev] Packing and GC versus packtime

On 11/09/2009 02:47 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering: Scenario 1: I pack a storage to a time T and append X transactions after that Scenario 2: I append X transactions to a storage and then pack it to time T

Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?

repeated run. Also, we can add that later on in case you figure out a way how to do it. ;) Christia -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3 shutdown isn't a proper shutdown?

/paster Z3 server (without ZMI ServerControl) Signal handling (on Unix) comes to mind. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?

Hi, On 10/08/2009 03:28 PM, Jonathan Ballet wrote: Hi Christian, On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I *thought* the test runner had a feature to run tests in randomized order, but I can't find it. Is that something that Zope 2 had

Re: [Zope-dev] Updating the ZTK KGS

on all platforms (and Python versions) as run by a buildbot. We don't have the infrastructure for this yet and Christian Theune and I were wondering whether this is needed. An alternative process would be to only *release* the ZTK after the compat tests run on all platforms as shown

[Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?

Hi, I *thought* the test runner had a feature to run tests in randomized order, but I can't find it. Is that something that Zope 2 had and that was never ported to zope.testing? I couldn't find in the history either. /me is confused. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

[Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

me back if they don't like this policy change :) I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to announce policy changes in a separate thread. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

On 09/18/2009 02:04 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote: I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they don't like this policy change :) I'm happy

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

On 09/18/2009 09:21 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Christian Theune wrote: I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to announce policy changes in a separate thread. Good point. I'll do that in the future; please remind again if it doesn't happen. I'll try

Re: [Zope-dev] Redesign suggestion for IReRaiseException

On 09/17/2009 01:48 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, Christian Theune wrote: I'd like to suggest a redesign of the IReRaiseException. I found this when reviewing revision 103682 and stumbled over the naming of the interfaces and that the interface only mentions a __call__ to retrieve

Re: [Zope-dev] Redesign suggestion for IReRaiseException

On 09/17/2009 10:49 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, Christian Theune wrote: This would be an interface on exceptions, right? Would it try to adapt exceptions raised to IPublisherExceptionInfo and if successful look at this attribute? So an exception can either implement this interface

[Zope-dev] Open issues ported to Launchpad blueprints

proposals should also get registered there. If you need to write detailed specification, please put it in the proposals section in the Zope Toolkit documentation and link the blueprint to the resulting HTML page on docs.zope.org. Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

[Zope-dev] Heads up: ZTK svn breakage

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Hanno and I are working on the release engineering of the ZTK. We'll refactor the SVN structure a bit which will cause intermittent breakage for the next few hours. We'll give another heads up as soon as we're done. Christian - -- Christian

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/ctheune-fix-zodb-startup/ Start working on cleaning up database opening and fixing multi-db startup.

Log message for revision 103678: Start working on cleaning up database opening and fixing multi-db startup. Changed: A Zope/branches/ctheune-fix-zodb-startup/ -=- ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/ctheune-fix-zodb-startup/src/Zope2/App/startup.py Ensure that multi database participants are opened along the main database.

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[Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

this will also make svn/svn+ssh work in a nicer way (IMHO) as the externals will follow the protocol of what you used for checkout. Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49

Re: [Zope-dev] Move implementation of getParent to zope.location?

things) pushing them away from contributing. I don't think we can afford that. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

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Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/andig-catalog-report/src/Products/ZCatalog/dtml/catalogReport.dtml Minor styling.

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Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK

a pain to install (and thus test) because it needs ICU. It is in there because I started that list from an inclusive point of view, removing things that shouldn't be in there. I'll take zope.ucol out. Christian - -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 3.8 fails in mysterious ways

at it for a while but I'd also not have it forgotten. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

[Zope-Annce] Participant registration opened for annual German Zope conference

with. If you want to join and are having trouble with the registration system, feel free to mail us at em...@dzug.org asking for assistance. Cheers, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel

Re: [Zope-dev] unregistering persistent utilities

but moved around, you might want to look at zodbupdate: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zodbupdate/0.2 Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK

a go): Silence is consent, isn't it? ;-) Commited in r102361. Yes. Thanks for taking the time. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.testing/trunk/ when a test module does not define a test_suite, first try to load any unittest.TestCase descendants in it before complaining it does not contain any

agenda in Launchpad. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Integrating Five code properly into Zope2?

compatibility imports in place and do the same for ZCML files. It would be work targeted at the lucky numbered Zope 2.13 ;-) Do people generally agree with this direction? Sounds good: putting the domain-specific code into the Five package compares to sorting your books by colour. Christian -- Christian

[Zope-dev] zope.testing 3.7.7 released

and work for doctests as well. This should make debugging page template issues (e.g. with the testbrowser) a lot easier. Cheers, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49

Re: [Zope-dev] How to test changes to ZTK packages?

runners in parallel. I was able to execute the 100+ package tests in less than 10 minutes on an 8-core machine. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1

Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK

z3c packages just to fit into the ZTK seems a bit unorthodox. Good catch! The package `zope.catalog` was refactored out of zope.app.catalog and wasn't in the 3.4 KGS that I used. Damn. I need to rerun with the package list of 3.5dev ... Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept

Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK

Hi, On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 13:31 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Theune wrote: I took the Zope 3.4 KGS, removed the obvious packages that do not belong to the ZTK out of the list and created a home for the master list that defines

Re: [Zope-dev] [Distutils] Where is the setuptools source repository?

fixed on the testrunner trunk now. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 7 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development signature.asc Description

[Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK

see that a package is missing or is classified in the wrong way, then please speak up. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 7 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] [Distutils] Where is the setuptools source repository?

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 11:25 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Christian Theune wrote: It was shallow after understanding it ... ;) The test runner already tried to avoid those directories, except there wasn't a test for this and obviously it was bound to be broken

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 3.7.7

On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 09:59 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Christian Theune wrote: I just released zope.testing 3.7.7. It only contains a single change: installing the test runner callable via a console_script entry point to allow simple usage without buildout

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