[Zope-Annce] mod_pcgi2 has been declared obsolete

2006-03-21 Thread Oleg Broytmann
Hello!

   Zope lost support for PCGI protocol at version 2.7. Because of this I
stopped maintaining mod_pcgi2. Today I switched my last site that have used
mod_pcgi2 to mod_proxy. Now mod_pcgi2 is declared obsolete. Please use
mod_proxy or mod_fastcgi instead.

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Re: [Zope] User Sessions

2001-01-31 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Chris Withers wrote:

  state with authenticated users.  It's just not as useful because once
  they're authenticated you'd probably be better off associating the state
  with their user object.

 Wow... I wish Zope supported this. Maybe a proposal for dev.zope.org is in
 order?

 How I'd like to see text box widths and top frame preference stored against
 the user, not the domain name/browser... :-S

   Oh, no, no, no. I, for example, use at least two different computers
with 2 different screen resolutions, so I certainly want to store these
preferences in my cookie files (these files are different on these 2
computers, of course).

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Re: [Zope] User Sessions

2001-01-31 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Chris Withers wrote:
 No problem, just have another _user_ preference which says whether ZMI
 preferences are stored as Browser Preferences or User Preferences.

 Then you and me can both be happy, even if we're using the same server ;-)

   Right! Give free choice to a user !! (No, I am not about GPL, you know!!! :)

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Re: [Zope] [OT perhaps] ZMySQLDA

2001-01-30 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Lee Reilly CS1997 wrote:
   CREATE TABLE STUDENTS
 when i try and query it from Zope or Unix (select * from students) I get

   SELECT * FROM STUDENTS;

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Re: [Zope] How to display image returned from Catalog query

2001-01-30 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Timothy Wilson wrote:
 What I can't figure out is how to display that image. I can use

 a href="dtml-absolute_url;"dtml-var title/a

 to make a link to the image, but I want this method to display the image
 directly.

   img src="dtml-absolute_url;" ?

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Re: [Zope] License

2001-01-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Chris Withers wrote:
 Olaf Zanger wrote:
 
  is the product planned to ship under GPL or an corresponding licence?

 Please don't shit it under GPL, it makes it much less useful :-S
 A variant of the Zope License would be much mroe friendly :-)

   OH, NO, PLEASE NOT AGAIN :( NONE OF THESE LICENSE WARS, PLE-E-E-SE! Do
allow people to choose their licenses freely!

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Re: [Zope] let problem (or just a stupid newbie)

2001-01-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Hans de Wit wrote:
 dtml-var standard_html_header
 dtml-let person="'Bob'"
 dtml-var person
 dtml-var standard_html_footer
[skip]
 Document Template Parse Error: (see above)

   But of course. dtml-let must be closed with /dtml-let

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Re: [Zope] License

2001-01-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
 |   is the product planned to ship under GPL or an corresponding licence?
 | 
 |  Please don't shit it under GPL, it makes it much less useful :-S
 |  A variant of the Zope License would be much mroe friendly :-)
 |
 |OH, NO, PLEASE NOT AGAIN :( NONE OF THESE LICENSE WARS, PLE-E-E-SE! Do
 | allow people to choose their licenses freely!

 Geez Oleg, all he did was make a request... chill on the caps..

   Those requests with these answers ("Please don't shit it under GPL")
produce flamewars far too easily :(

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Re: [Zope] problems with URL passing again

2001-01-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote:
 dtml-var expr="id==pass_id"
 dtml-if expr="id == pass_id"

   Sometimes id is not a string, but a function to call: id(). To force
Zope renders it to string always write _['id'].
   Zope 2.3 has getId() that is always function.

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Re: [Zope] DCOracle with Python 2.0?

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Michelle Walden wrote:
 I'm having zero success getting DCOracle to build with any version of Python
 using the included Makefile.pre.in files.  Anyone with a working DCOracle
 install on RedHat 6.1 who might be willing to offer suggestions or donate
 binaries will receive many thanks from my programmer.

   I've built it on Debian 2.2. Makefiles require some tweakings...

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Re: [Zope] Editors [OT]

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Chris Withers wrote:
 Hmmm... interesting, maybe it's time to find a new editor...
 My wishlist would be:

 - Runs nicely on NT4
 - Syntax highlighting for Python, C, XML, HTML (and, although this is dreamworld
 stuff, DTML ;-)
 - FTP or WebDAV editing built in as standard (or alternative solution, like
 cadaver making it work ;-)
 - Regular Expression search  replace
 - search  replace of multiple files

   www.vim.org

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.3.0 beta 3 released

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   Many cheers to DC people and the community!

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Brian Lloyd wrote:
   Zope 2.3.0 beta 3 is now available. You can download it
   from Zope.org:

   http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.3.0b3/

   Finally it works for me lake a charm! (Even with python 2.0!) Thanks to
all, good guys!!!

   Now going to dive into new features (VirtualHostMonster, getId, etc...)

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.3.0 beta 3 released

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On 25 Jan 2001, Erik Enge wrote:
 | Finally it works for me lake a charm! (Even with python 2.0!)

 Really? Python 2.0?  Without any problems?

   I didn't found any, do you?

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[Zope] Re: Zope and Python 2.0

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, [iso-8859-1] Åsmund Hjulstad wrote:
 I am having a nightmare getting ZClasses to work with Python 2.0. Does it
 work for you??

   I don't create ZClasses because:

1. I am The Knight Of Command Line! I do not understand visual programming :)

2. I learned Zope Product API before ZClassess... and sticked to it :)

   Really, I want to learn ZClasses, but knowledge of the Product API
stands on the way :)

   Well, I use ZClasses written by other people. FlexFAQ, for example.
Let's see whether it would work with Zope on Python 2.0:

   http://phd.russ.ru/zope.net.ru/Zope/FAQ/

Don't see any problem, do you? At least these ZClasses (Questions and
Answers) are working fine.

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Re: [Zope] DNS/access problems

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Olaf Zanger wrote:
 but then, when i clicked to any link i got an error.
 any idea where to search?

   First, carefully read the error message...

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Re: [Zope] REMOTE_ADDR

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   This [P] suggests that you use mod_proxy. --\
|
   As I already said, mod_proxy can't pass environment. ---+--\
|  |
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Marcus Mendes wrote:   |  |
RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://myserver:8080/marcus/$1 [P]-/  |
  |
 I'm using Zope.cgi with SiteAccess   |
 In the SiteAcess, I have - base: http://myserver:8080   |
 and URL : /marcus|
  |
 How can I pass to my ZServer the REMOTE_ADDR's content?  |
  |
 -+
 Oleg Wrote:  |
  V
   Which way do you connect Apache to Zope? Mod_pcgi? mod_fastcgi?
 mod_proxy? I am afraid if you use mod_proxy - you cannot obtain remote
 address. Or may be there is a way to pass it explicitly to Zope.
   Other modules (FCGI/PCGI) should pass all neccessary information
 (actually, the entire request environment) by default.

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Re: [Zope] Add this to Wish list

2001-01-24 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Jerome Alet wrote:
 A way to download Python Script's sources
 Now I cut and paste but it's horrible.

 Please could you include a button "Download Source" to the Python Script
 edition form ?

   Sometimes through-the-web editing stands on the way? :)

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Re: [Zope] Dowloading images from another site with external method?

2001-01-24 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Etienne  Labuschagne wrote:
 "http:\\www.mysite.com\images:8081\img1234545.png"

   Incorrect slashes in the URL. It seems M$ is destroying people's brains :(
   Use right slashes ///

 My problem is that I don't know how to download the image from the URL

   Use urllib.urlretrieve. Or use external program that can download files
from URL. lynx, e.g. (I think, there is lynx for Win; certainly, there are
other tools.)

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Re: [Zope] PythonScripts editable through FTP?

2001-01-24 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Jerome Alet wrote:
 I want to use my own text editor (JERED), not because it's the best to
 develop (far from that in fact) but because it works exactly like I want
 it to work (which is normal since I've written it). Unfortunately it
 doesn't handle WebDAV or any other Internet protocol...

   Compile Python into it and go with ftplib!

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RE: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 bug #2

2001-01-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Dieter Maurer wrote:
 Oleg Broytmann writes:
  Hm, will you fix my browser, too? I am using Netscape for Linux, don't
   know how well it plays with Unicode. I suppose it plays bad :(
 We use Netscape (4.5, 4.7; Linux, Windows) with "charset=utf-8" and
 it handles it well.

   Good news, thanks. Are there (free) Unicode fonts for X? What should I
do if I want to save an HTML to disk? (I want plain text, of course, in my
preferred encoding... probably need to write Unicode-to-koi8 converter)

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Re: [Zope] ZPyGresQL Connection Add Error

2001-01-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Craig wrote:
 Error Type: IOError
 Error Value: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
 '/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/connectionAdd.dtml'

   Also check all permissions starting from the root.

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Re: [Zope] Getting access to python methods of some product

2001-01-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Ivan Somov wrote:
   How I can use method, stored in a ".py" file of some product, and send
 some parameters to that method?

   I think, you can just acquire the method (if it is in the ZODB and is
acquirable).

   I want to create an instance of ExtImage product programmatically,
  but have a troubles doing it..

   Ah, that worse - you need a constructor, not an ordinary method. Not
sure how to call it. Probably, you need to import that .py, call the
constructor, get an object in return, and then _setObject somewhere into
ZODB.

   (Why not to try to ask the question in the Russian Python  Zope Mailing
List? :)

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Re: [Zope] Getting an object from it's id

2001-01-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Gale wrote:
 dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')"
 dtml-if "myId==id"

   You don't need to "get" the object, as the object is already on top of
the namespace stack (dtml-in put the object there on every iteration). Just
use the object's attributes (id, after all, is just yet another attribute).

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Re: [Zope] Object DB versus Relational DB

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Tom Deprez wrote:
 Can somebody provide me informational links of documents which present the
 benefits and non-benefits of both DB? eg. When to use one and when not to
 use one?

   http://www.zope.org/Members/anthony/sql_vs_ZODB

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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 bug #2

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"
 
 This is WRONG way of doing! Please stop it and don't do it :) Meanwhile
  - where I can turn this off?

 It would be very nice, if we could set it somewhere in configuration.
 Till now (Zope 2.2.x) I have to patch Zope (some *.dtml files, and even
 some *.py files) in order to have proper Content-Type headers on my
 management screens (specifically iso-8859-2).

   Oh, NO! This should be handled in HTTP, not HTML! HTTP responce shold
give correct Conten-Type header.
   With Apache, it is easy to configure. But I certainly don't want to
force all my editors to use one fixed encoding. This because some of us use
KOI8-R encoding (UNIX), and other use windows-1251 (gues the OS). This is
at least browser/user preference, not a server-side option.
   Russian Apache (specially patched version of Apache) correctly handles
this on HTTP level...

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RE: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 bug #2

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Brian Lloyd wrote:
 FYI - I've taken out the charset declaration altogether for beta 3,

   Thanks.

 since this is obviously an issue that needs more thought. Since

   Sure. Language/encoding issues are hard to implement, though. There are
servers, proxies, browsers - and almost none of them obey standards
correctly :(

 Zope 2.4 will be the Python 2 (unicode) release, we should start
 a fishbowl project to work out how / whether Zope should deal with
 charset issues for the 2.4 release...

   Hm, will you fix my browser, too? I am using Netscape for Linux, don't
know how well it plays with Unicode. I suppose it plays bad :(
   My only hope is to have Mozilla  at the time of Zope 2.4. Anyone here
knows how Mozilla handles Unicode?

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Re: [Zope] REMOTE_ADDR

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Marcus Mendes wrote:
 Where can I find (and use) the variable REMOTE_ADDR? I've a python
 function that deal with REMOTE_ADDR, but I've got the IP address's Zope
 Server Machine. I looked at Z2.log and find the same IP, ie. the
 address's Zope Server Machine. I need the remote address. I'm using
 SiteAccess and Zope 2.2.4 on Linux. I don't understand ...

   Do you use Apache? Which way do you connect Zope and Apache?

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Re: [Zope] REMOTE_ADDR

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Marcus Mendes wrote:
 Yes,  I'm using apache before the Zope, ie,  Apache redirects all the
 request to the 8080 to Zope. How can Id obtain REMOTE_ADDR ?

   Which way do you connect Apache to Zope? Mod_pcgi? mod_fastcgi?
mod_proxy? I am afraid if you use mod_proxy - you cannot obtain remote
address. Or may be there is a way to pass it explicitly to Zope.
   Other modules (FCGI/PCGI) should pass all neccessary information
(actually, the entire request environment) by default.

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RE: [Zope] zope@zope.org

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Farrell, Troy wrote:
 Is it possible this is another issue with 2.0 (I'm no python guru :)?

   Certainly no. It is just the python caanot import a standard module.
Permission or path problem, I am sure.

 FR, Zope 2.x is designed to work with Python 1.52.

   Zope 2.3 (currently in beta) works (though not "officially") with 2.0.

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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 undo strangeness

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
 Did you start from a fresh Data.fs for 2.3.0b2 or did you use an existing
 Data.fs from another install?

   Oops, are they incompatible with each other? (I am not the author of the
original question, just curious). IWBN to see some information in
INSTALL.txt about upgrading from prev. version.

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Re: [Zope] List Mail Duplicates

2001-01-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Tim Cook wrote:
 Is the list mailer sending duplicates or am I seeing double?

   Not only you. There are certainly dups in the list. May be it's our list
manager's fault, may be someone (misconfigured robot?) sends it back to
the list...

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[Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 bug

2001-01-20 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   Little bug - if there is no items in a folder - there is no
"Import/Export" button. :) I have to create a dummy item to import a zexp.

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[Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 bug #2

2001-01-20 Thread Oleg Broytmann

It is not exactly bug, but VERY unplesant misfeature:

   Zope now sends all HTML in management screens with

meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"

   This is WRONG way of doing! Please stop it and don't do it :) Meanwhile
- where I can turn this off?

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[Zope] Zope build script

2001-01-20 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/build-zope/

   Zope build script helps to build Zope from sources. The script:

-- runs python w_pcgi.py
-- runs python zpasswd.py inituser|access
-- generates root.sh - a script to run under root to complete the
  installation; root.sh set up right ownership and permissions in the
  installation tree.

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Re: [Zope] Zope build script

2001-01-20 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/build-zope/

   Oops, forget to say - the script was updated for Zope 2.3 (it now
asks for "inituser" along with "access"). The script still can be used for
Zope 2.2.

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Re: [Zope] Arguments in URLs with bookmarks

2001-01-19 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Michael W. Homyack wrote:
   http://www.mysite.com/x#gotohere?arga=oneargb=two

   This is browser issue, not a Zope problem. Make the anchor in the end:

http://www.mysite.com/x?arga=oneargb=two#gotohere

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Re: [Zope] No product management

2001-01-18 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Veen, J.S. van der wrote:
 I've got a problem with Zope. When I click on the 'Product Management' link
 in the Control Panel it shows me the 'Welcome to Zope' page again. I'm using
 Zope 2.2.5 on FreeBSD 4.2. Can anyone help?

   I've got this problem with a browser that does not support "base" tag
(ChrisW, wanna say something? :)
   Switching back to Netscape "fixed" the problem.

   Moral: there are 2.5 browsers out there (Netscape, Mozila and M$IE) and
only 1.5 of them (M$IE and Netscape) can work with Zope management screens.
   Other things that called itself "a web browser" (lynx, links, opera,
w3m) and are actually worth 0.1 of a whole browser are suitable for simple
tasks, but not for such a complex task as managing Zope :)))

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Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?

2001-01-18 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Etienne  Labuschagne wrote:
 What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope?  When

   Pack + backup Data.fs.old.

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Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?

2001-01-18 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Marty Stitt wrote:
   Data.fs

   This is the real database file.

   Data.fs.index

   Its index. Remove before replacing Data.fs.

   Data.fs.old

   This is backup after Pack.

   Data.fs.in

   This is initial Data.fs - installation process copy this into Data.fs
before starting Zope for the first time.

   Data.fs.lock
   Data.fs.tmp

   Temporary files. Feel free to remove them when Zope is not running.

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Re: [Zope] Form data type coercion syntax and javascript

2001-01-17 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Mayers, Philip J wrote:
 SELECT NAME="test:list"

 But how do you access it from JavaScript then? I'm doing this:
   list = form.elements[j];

  list = form.elements["test:list"];

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Re: [Zope] Folder upload ?

2001-01-16 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Marc Fischer wrote:
 Could anyone tell me, if it is possible to upload a whole folder with all
 its including objekts like pictures and things into ZOPE? If yes, tell me
 how, please.

   There is load_site.py in Zope utilities directory, and there is newer
version of it somewhere on zope.org - just search.

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Re: [Zope] Session

2001-01-16 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
 dtml-with "Session.getSessionData()"
   ^
   Close th broket:

dtml-with "Session.getSessionData()"
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Re: [Zope] Design Q: Product vs. External Methods

2001-01-15 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Chris Withers wrote:
  if you run zope in debug mode (./start -D) you won't have to hit 'edit" -
  all external methods are re-read every time you access them.
 
 That hasn't been my experience, but maybe I'm mistaken :-S

   I can assure it is. I run zope.net.ru in debug mode, and did debugging
of an External Method that draw the left column. After I modified the
source file Zope reread it, sure.

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Re: [Zope] mysql connection string

2001-01-15 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Olaf Zanger wrote:
 right now my setup uses a connection string "db root" which doesn't seam
 to give a lot of savety :-).
 at my provider i have a login, but sure no root access to the db.
 * how does the connection string look for user name "peter-hauser" and
 password "test3-.2"?

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 * has the user to be set up in "linux" ?  |
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   No, only in mysql.   |
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 * how is the setup made in "mysql"?   |
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   GRANT select,insert,update,delete,create,alter,drop,index|
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 * has zope to be run by user "peter-hauser"?  |
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   No, you pass peter-hauser in the connection string -/

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Re: [Zope] log file.

2001-01-11 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jason C. Leach wrote:
 Is the Zope log file in Common Log File Format?

   Yes. You can run every standard log files analyzer on it.

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Re: [Zope] Acquisition: DTML Methods vs Documents

2001-01-09 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   Many thanks to all who replied! Sorry for late answer - twas XMas
holidays in Russia (Russian Orthodox church celebrates XMas Jan 7).

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Rik Hoekstra wrote:
 If I call http://machine:port/top/middle/AFolder/ADocument (in terms of
  this HOWTO), and ADocument calls dtml-var AMethod, what is acquisition
  path for AMethod?

 what might come handy in your case is the howto "Shane's Aquisition
 Understander" at

  http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/showaq
 it'll help you visualize the acquisition path from your document.

   I used it for sometime, sure...

 You may also want to look at my howto Changing Contexts in Zope
 http://www.zope.org/Members/Hoekstra/ChangingZopeContexts

   Read and reread it many times, sure. Cannot live without it :) The thing
that I didn't understand from this (and the thing is still cloudy) is that
there is One Acquisition Path for a request. When I call a Method through
the web, I have proper path, so I can call Documents and Methods from each
other. But when I call a Document through the web, I have "wrong" path -
static path, and when I try to call a Method from the Document, the Method
will use this static path. I thought the Method will use dynamic path,
based on request (URL). That was my mistake.

 Or Jim's acquisition algebra from a Python point of view of these matters:
 http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/Info/IPC8/AcquisitionAlgebra/index.html

   Of course.

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Re: [Zope] images transfering

2001-01-09 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Nuno Goncalves wrote:
 I'm trying to import to zope an directory in my file system which has
 several images (about 1000) !
 How can i do this without importing an image one by one (little bit
 tiring :) !!!

   There is load_site.py in Zope utilities, and there is new version of it
somewhere on zope.org; Just search for "load site" or "load_site" or such...

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[Zope] Acquisition: DTML Methods vs Documents

2001-01-05 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   Can anyone here explain clearly what is the difference between DTML
Methods and DTML Documents regarding acquisition?

   Well, in simple cases I think I understand it. When I call a Method
through the web, it use dynamic (based on current URL) acquisition path. A
Document uses static (based on its position in ZODB) path.

   But what if I want to look a bit deeper? What are acquision paths for a
Method called from a Document, not directly from the web? I beleive when a
Document called from a Method it always uses static acquisition path. But
what about a Method called from a Document? It seems my Methods stopped
using dynamic paths and use static paths, provided by its callee. Right?

   Let's see a running demo. The site http://phd.russ.ru/pcgi/TEST/
constructed as follows:

/TEST - folder
   index_html - standard DTML Document with default content
   standard_html_header - DTML Method
   standard_html_footer - DTML Method
   2 - folder, empty

Both folders /TEST and /TEST/2 have a property "foobar". In /TEST its value
is "First test!", in /TEST/2 - "This is SECOND test." standard_html_header
show the property with dtml-var foobar.

   When I call standard_html_header directly through the web, it acquires
foobar using dynamic acquisition path:

http://phd.russ.ru/pcgi/TEST/standard_html_header
   show foobar from root (/TEST)
http://phd.russ.ru/pcgi/TEST/2/standard_html_header
   show foobar from /TEST/2

But then I call standard_html_header from DTML Document index_html:

http://phd.russ.ru/pcgi/TEST/index_html
   show foobar from root (/TEST); exactly as I expected, no problem
http://phd.russ.ru/pcgi/TEST/2/index_html
   WOW! It show foobar again from root, not from /TEST/2!
standard_html_header acquires using static path provided by index_html!

   Is it normal and intended behaviour? If it is, how can I "solve" my
problem? (I want to acquire different properties in standard_html_header,
but call standard_html_header from different DTML Documents).

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Re: [Zope] Acquisition: DTML Methods vs Documents

2001-01-05 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
 http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/DTMLMethodsandDocsHowTo
 saved my life.

   Thanks. I'be read it yesterday. It does not help much because it does
not answer my question:

   If I call http://machine:port/top/middle/AFolder/ADocument (in terms of
this HOWTO), and ADocument calls dtml-var AMethod, what is acquisition
path for AMethod?

   I showed an example, where AMethod do acquisition using static path, and
I think it is a bug. Or, may be, just my misunderstanding...

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Re: [Zope] Acquisition: DTML Methods vs Documents

2001-01-05 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
  http://phd.russ.ru/pcgi/TEST/2/index_html
 WOW! It show foobar again from root, not from /TEST/2!
  standard_html_header acquires using static path provided by index_html!

 You started acquisition from index_html. Since it has no foobar, it looked
 into its own container, /TEST, then in root.

   Exactly as I wrote - in this situation standard_html_header acquires
using static path provided by index_html :(

 You can but the "problem" in your case, comes from the acquisition of an
 index_html document in a different folder. I suggest to add index_html
 documents in every folder *or* make index_html a method (this is what I
 use).

   There are many Documents on my site, not only index_html. Should I make
them all Methods? Why after this I need Documents at all?

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Re: [Zope] Re: ZBabel translation to Postgres

2001-01-04 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
 I do recall however, that postgres only implements INNER and OUTER joins
 although I don't know the status of the JOIN stuff in postgres at this time.

   AFAIR they (especially Bruce Momjian) always suggested ti emulate LEFT JOIN
with UNION. They said it'd pretty easy...

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Re: [Zope] rss

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Kevin Teague wrote:
 I use a modified version of this script running on a cron job to update
 the rss channels:

 http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/cron-zope/pack-db_fs

 The script looks like this (it's still kind of hack-ish, but it works
 :). My only problem now is to figure out how to have member preferences
 handle a list of rss channels with the PTK.


 #!/usr/bin/python

 username="kteague"
 password="**"

   RSS Channel does not protect Import, so you don't need user/password, I
think...

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Re: [Zope] Start with Zope

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Pierrick PONS wrote:
 I verified that Zope is running but I don't know how to start this program to
 start building my new web site.

   You don't need to "start" it if it is already running - just connect to
it with your browser. If you installed it with default settings, point your
browser to localhost:8080/manage, enter your superuser password (did you
created one while installing?), login, goto acl_user folder, create a user
with Manager role, stop your browser (close all windows), restart he
browser, goto the same location, enter your manager's password - and viola!
Start creating objects - Folders, DTML Documents and Methods, etc.

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Re: [Zope] site structure (fwd)

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

 Using standard_html_header and standard_html_footer in every Document on
  your site...
 But that way if i want to change the structure, i have to change on every
 page.

   No, you only need to change 2 places: standard_html_header and
standard_html_footer :) All Documents that use these header/footer will be
rendered using new structure.

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RE: [Zope] site structure (fwd)

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Max M wrote:
 If I where to do it in regular Python I would use special classes for
 special layouts. That is hard to do in Zope.

   Why hard? Not hard at all - develop your own set of classes, make it
into a Product, and use instance of these classes instead of DTML
Documents. Actually, there is nothing special in DTML Documents - they are
instances of DTMLDocument class, nothing more. Creating your own type of
document is not harder, IMHO.

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Re: [Zope] HELP with Postgress!! HELP!!

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Paolo Quaglia wrote:
 I have tried the ZPyGreSQLDA-0.3-rjr2.tar.gz, but the product result BROKEN
 PRODUCT!!

   Instead of asking for free HELP!!! you'd better try to fix the broken
product; after all, it is free software, do it yourself or hire someone.

   Go to Control Panel and click on this broken product. Now see a
traceback. Look what is wrong and fix the problem. Restart Zope. Use th DA.

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RE: [Zope] site structure (fwd)

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Nuno Goncalves wrote:
 Why hard? Not hard at all - develop your own set of classes, make it
  into a Product, and use instance of these classes instead of DTML
  Documents. Actually, there is nothing special in DTML Documents - they are
  instances of DTMLDocument class, nothing more. Creating your own type of
  document is not harder, IMHO.

 I was thinking about that to !
 But how could you build a page with the template developed ??
 something like:
 dtml var template(COMPONENTS LIKE HEADER AND FOOTER AS ARGUMENTS)
 and how can you generelize the objects to beeing used by the template ?

   No, no, no! :)
   You misunderstand how the Zope works. You think that basic building
block is a piece of HTML (probably you think to put it into DTML
Documents). No. In Zope basic building block is "instance of some python
class". A DTML Document is an instance of DTMLDocument class, e.g.
   If you develop your own set of classes, you'll just build Zope sites
creating instances of these classes - you put HTML fragmenst just into
these instances. Zope will call your objects, you don't need to use DTML to
call them.

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RE: [Zope] site structure (fwd)

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Nuno Goncalves wrote:
 humm !!! I see now !!
 So i can have a general structure for all my site and when create a
 page, specifying the template to use and consequently adding the objects
 that i want ??

   No, you should separate design (template) and content. Actually, it is
possible even without creating a python product - you put content (HTML
fragments) into small DTML Documents, and define design (template) using
DTML Methods - standard_html_header/footer and other methods, your custom
methods.

   Think, for example, you want to create a site with the following design:

-
 | ||
left | CONTENT1| right  |
column   | | column |
 | special ||
 | fature  ||
 | ||
 | CONTENT2||
 | ||
-

   Easy! (Thanks, Zope! :)

   You define "left column" in standard_html_header, "right column" in
standard_html_footer, in every folder put two pieces of content and feature
into 3 DTML Documents, and call these Documents again from
standard_html_header (or DTML Methods that will be called from
standard_html_header).

   In outline, your standard_html_header will looks like the following:

HTMLHEADTITLEdtml-var title_or_id/TITLE/HEAD
tabledtml-commentI'll skip most HTML-related things like tr td etc/dtml-comment
   dtml-var left-column

   dtml-var CONTENT1

   dtml-var feature

   dtml-var CONTENT2

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Re: [Zope] rss

2000-12-14 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Andy McKay wrote:
 Actually I went one further and hacked SiteSummary so that it remembered the
 url the rss is located at (rss_url). Then I wrote a quick reload method.
 Then in dtml I wrote a method that finds all the site summaries and reloads
 them. So my python script is down to two lines:

 import urllib
 print urllib.urlopen(/reload)

 Or something like that. It also means anyone can add news feeds on the fly,

   Send your patches to RSS Channel author!

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Re: [Zope] Gopher from Zope

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
 I wanna serve gopher:// from Zope :-)

 Is it possible?

   It is possible, but no so simple. How would you map gopher menues to
Zope objects?

   On the positive side - thanks Zope for your component-based
architecture. You just need to write GopherServer.py; see HTTPServer.py,
PCGIServer.py in ZServer subdirectory.

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Re: [Zope] HTTPServer.py patch

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Evan Simpson wrote:
 Looks like you've got the one that only works with Zope 2.0 - 2.1.6.  If
 you're using Zope 2.2.0 or above, you need the other one.  See
 http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/postbugfix

   Got it. Now it works. Thank you.

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Re: [Zope] turning off inheritance

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Kyler B. Laird wrote:
 Units and people both have contact information
 stored in their properties.  How do I detect if a
 person has, for example, 'contact_email' set?

 I've tried
   dtml-if "_.hasattr(this(), 'contact_email')"

   Something like
dtml-if "_.hasattr(aq_explicit, 'contact_email')"
   (untested, but I use this in External Methods)

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Re: [Zope] turning off inheritance

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Kyler B. Laird wrote:
 dtml-if "_.hasattr(aq_explicit, 'contact_email')"
(untested, but I use this in External Methods)

 Consider it tested.  It works great from DTML.

 Now that I know what to seek, I found a couple of
 old messages that reference this.  I'm still
 honing my ability to get Zope clues.

   I got it form exactly this mailing list. I just monitor the list form
the very beginning, I forward many important message to Russian Zope list,
discuss this information, etc. Nothing special. Often I ask questions here.
   Of course I do digging Zope sources from time to time :)

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[Zope] HTTPServer.py patch

2000-12-12 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   With the recent patch I have problems connecting directly to ZServer
(port 8080) - Zope reported error 500 and restarted itself.
   Connecting through Apache+mod_pcgi2 works. I reverted the patch
(restored HTTPServer.py from backup) and can connect to ZServer again.
   Something wrong with te patch!

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Re: [Zope] Cut/copy/paste problems

2000-12-08 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

 i knew that!  :)  btw, there's currently sparse document on mod_pcgi2.  i'd
 like to change that, but i need info from you (the author ..straight from the
 horses mouth - so to speak) or snippets from your httpd.conf.  do i need to
 have Zope.cgi available?  i think i do since otherwise, there'll be no
 connection.  or am i missing something?

   You missed pcgi-wrapper :) If you look into Zope.cgi (it is just plain
text file) you'd found it is a script interpreted by pcgi-wrapper. That
very pcgi-wrapper is a binary file compiled from pcgi-wrapper.c during the
Zope installation process. The pcgi-wrapper binary is the program that
implements PCGI protocol.
   When I wrote mod_pcgi2, I borrowed a lot of code from pcgi-wrapper.c.
That way you do not need Zope.cgi or pcgi-wrapper - the PCGI code is
already in mod_pcgi2.

 how can i finetune the performance?  it seems that under heavy load, eg 100
 simultaneous apache connection, it'd get loger to contact the server.  in the
 browser, we'd see contacting the server, waiting for reply .. for about 3-4
 secs before we get any activity/reply from server.

   You'd need to finetune Zope, not the mod_pcgi2 module.
   When you connect to Zope-behind-Apache the process is going the
following path:
   1) browser sends a rquest to Apache
   2) Apache invokes the mod_pcgi2 handler
   3) the handler passes the request to Zope
   4) !!! here is the problem to finetune !!! If Zope's own pull
  requests handlers is empty - Zope does not handle the request, but
  queues the request and waits
   5) after Zope processes the request it passes the results back
   6) mod_pcgi2 passes the results to Apache
   7) Apache passess it back to browser.

   Ususally there are 4 threads in Zope, and 7 ZODB connections. The first
number - 4 threads - could be configured by passing parameter to z2.py. If
you raise the number much, you'd need to raise he seconf number somwhere
in the ZODB source code. These are points for finetuning.

   Actually you may need to tune more things, but these things are just
totally unrelated to mod_pcgi2. Tune ZODB cache, install and learn to use
cacheing Products (the are a number of caches for Zope), use squid, etc.

 when i do a packet dump, it seems that the machine needs a couple of SYN
 before getting and ACK from the server.  do you think it has anything to do
 with mod_pcgi2?  sorry  if it's not.

   I'm pretty sure it has nothing with mod_pcgi2. SYN/ACK are properties of
TCP/IP protocols, and PCGI protocol is much higher level.

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Re: [Zope] Is it Possible 2: Get resolution!

2000-12-08 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Stoonsdesign wrote:
 Q: Is it posible to get the current users SCREEN-RESOLUTION (without
 using Javascript!)..?

   You can't, and you don't need. Even if you get the resolution, you'd
have hard times generating HTML for that resolution: HTML is very bad
concerning strict screen positioninig. HTML is not "publishing".

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Re: [Zope] Cut/copy/paste problems

2000-12-07 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Ivan Cornell wrote:
 I've been having problems with copy/paste/rename with my site, which is apache
 proxypassing (mod_rewrite [p] actually) onto a siterooted subdir of zserver. I

   Aha, SiteRoot! I thought is is a part of the problem.

   Thanks!

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Re: [Zope] Indirect addressing

2000-12-07 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Ragnar Beer wrote:
 This would logically be handled with "dtml-var dtml-var
 my_external_method" in index_html but this doesn't work.

   Don't write DTML inside DTML. Inside DTML tag use Python:

dtml-var "_[my_external_method()]"

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Re: [Zope] Is it posible?

2000-12-07 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Stoonsdesign wrote:
 Statement: ZOPE RULEZ!

   Sure! :)

 Q1: Is it possible to get the current users IP

   Yez.

 Q2: If so = How..?

   dtml-var REMOTE_ADDR

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Re: [Zope] Disabling Services

2000-12-06 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Chris Withers wrote:
 How do I turn any of the above 'off' permentantly, without hacking z2.py
 or anything similar (which is nasty ;-)

   z2.py has a lot of options. Run z2.py --help. (I mean passing options to
z2.py IS NOT nasty :)

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Re: [Zope] Help - cannot import zexp

2000-12-04 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   I already got it! :) I imported earlier zexp and removed default args
from the External Method. The site now seems to do export/import
flawlessly.

   As I said, it's undocumented misfeature. Thanks for documenting it. Can
you make it a Tip or a HOWTO and publish it on zope.org?

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Dieter Maurer wrote:
 Oleg Broytmann writes:
    functions as default parameters to external method functions
   cause import problems 
   
  "Cannot import default_render from module __main__". Oops! What's that?
   The default_render isn't in __main__, sure. I tried to create External
   Method before importing, but this didn't help :(
 This is a severe danger of "pickle" and the external method
 implementation:

   *  the implementation does not import the Python source files
  but reads them in and executes them.

  All functions and classes appear to be defined in the
  module "__main__".

   *  The implementation places the function default arguments
  into the ZODB (as a pickle).

   *  "unpickle" cannot load the corresponding object,
  as it imports "__main__" and looks there for the
  function -- in vain.


 As a rule:

   Avoid the use of class of function definitons from
   an external method source file for anything that
   may be written to the ZODB (or more generally
   be pickled; this applies e.g. to session context, too).
   This includes created object instances that may
   end up as attributes of Zope objects or
   function default parameters to external methods.

 If you defined such classes or functions in a true
 Python module, you should have no problem.



 What can you do, if your zexp is valuable?

   *  put a dummy definition of "default_render" in the
  "__main__" module.

  You should then be able to import your zexp
  and change the problematic external method.

  I do not know precisely, what Zope's "__main__"
  module is. I expect the "z2.py".
  If this is not the case, then a small dummy product
  that does "import __main__; __main__.default_render= 0"
  should do the trick, whatever "__main__" may be.

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Re: [Zope] How to build a c extension on a linux system

2000-12-04 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i would like to install a zope product that includes a c extension
 (DynPersist.c) with a Setup file like this:

 *shared*
 DynPersist DynPersist.c-I../../ZODB
 -I../../../Components/ExtensionClass

 has anybody an idea, how to start the compilation ?

   make -f $SOMEWHERE/Makefile.pre.in boot  make

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[Zope] Re: Help - cannot import zexp

2000-12-02 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   Followup to myself...

On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
Please help, I have a problem importing my zexp.
Initially I created the exported zexp while debugging some External
 Method. The method is declared as follows:
 def navigation_leftColumn(self, _, render=default_render):
 where default_render is a helper function, defined in the same .py file:
 def default_render(self, _, alist=None, indent=0):

 Later I deleted the entire folder and tried to import zexp to return to
 saved position. Zope raise the error:
"Cannot import class default_render from module __main__". Oops!
 What's that? The default_render isn't a class in __main__, sure. I tried
 to create External Method before importing, but this didn't help :(

   Nobody dared to answer? Well, I am not in big trouble here - I have
previous backup; I can import it and will redo all changes.
   But I think I found a bug or undocumented misfeature in Zope External
Methods. The problem is in default parameter (render=default_render). By
some reason Zope stores (pickles?) it in wrong way, so later it cannot be
imported. I'll remove this argument (or replace it with render=None) and I
am sure the problem will gone away, and I can export and reimport it
safely.

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[Zope] Help - cannot import zexp

2000-12-01 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   Please help, I have a problem importing my zexp.

   Initially I created the exported zexp while debugging some External
Method. The method is declared as follows:

def navigation_leftColumn(self, _, render=default_render):
   ...

where default_render is a helper function, defined in the same .py file:

def default_render(self, _, alist=None, indent=0):
   ...

Later I deleted the entire folder and tried to import zexp to return to
saved position. Zope raise the error:

   "Cannot import default_render from module __main__". Oops! What's that?
The default_render isn't in __main__, sure. I tried to create External
Method before importing, but this didn't help :(

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Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Stefan H. Holek wrote:
  Why isn't there a mod_zope module?

 There certainly are mod_snake and mod_python. Has anybody tried to run
 Zope with one of those?

   Zope is a server by itself, it doesn't need to be embedded ito Apache.

PLUG mode="shameless"
   There IS mod_pcgi2 to connect Apache to Zope.
/PLUG

   There is mod_fastcgi also.

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Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Stefan H. Holek wrote:
 I (hope I) wasn't implying that Zope _needs_ to be embedded into
 Apache. ;)

 I for my part am quite happy with proxypassing.

 All I wanted to know is whether anybody had tried to run Zope with

   But these modules does not run p/f-cgi - they run python scripts inside
Apache. Zope does not need to be run inside Apache.

 mod_python/mod_snake yet. Zope can be (and is) run as [pf]cgi and
 there are more or less valid reasons to do just that.

   These are, actually, the only ways to run Zope :)

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Re: [Zope] Import/Export Objects

2000-11-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Rafael Amer Ramon wrote:
 I have installed Zope-2.2.2 with mod_pcgi and the Apache server.

   mod_pcgi or mod_pcgi2? I think the latter.

 When I try to import some objects exported from a proviously running
 ZServer, I get

 Internal Server Error

 and the following message in the Apache error_log file

 [Tue Nov 28 19:05:26 2000] [error] PCGI Error: [503 Service Unavailable]
 ((116) unable to connect, fd=5) Success

 Does anyboby know how I can solve this problem?

   Misconfigured mod_pcgi2, I'm afraid. Are you sure all neccessary
parameters are there, in httpd.conf? Are they correct? Point to correct
socket file, e.g.? Are these files accessible from the UID httpd is running
under?

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Re: [Zope] Zope restarting itself?

2000-11-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Martin Winkler wrote:
 maybe someone of you heard of a feature that Zope can restart itself when
 it dies abnormally. (Linux/Unix version). I found such a service for Windows
 NT, but not for Linux, although I am sure that I saw it a while ago
 somewhere... Is this just a parameter for z2.py or is there a special program for
 this task?

   z2.py -Z ...

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Re: [Zope] exchange parameters between DTML Documents

2000-11-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Andrei Belitski wrote:
 In dependance of a link I would like to pass some document name as
 parameter to another DTML Document which displays for example the
 properties of the parameter document. How can I do it?
 I would appreciate any hints, thank you in advance

   The mechanism is called "session". Learn how setup and to use some
session products. There are few session products for Zope - search
zope.org.

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Re: [Zope] html expertise anyone.

2000-11-28 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Robin Becker wrote:
 I know about the style="color: red" type of inline, I was looking for
 the :link, :active, :visited etc attributes for inline style. I can't
 seem to get these to work. The color attribute seems to set all of the
 states.

   I think it's impossible to set pseudoclasses inline.

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Re: [Zope] PCGI_ROOT

2000-11-27 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   I am the author of mod_pcgi2. Thank you for using it.

On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Rafael Amer Ramon wrote:
 PCGI_ROOT /usr/local/Zope

 Is the error related with the PCGI_ROOT directive?

   Yes.

 How can I set this directive?

   PCGI_RROT should point to *a Zope folder*, not a directory on disk.
Initially, when you have fresh Zope install, you have one Zope folder -
root, so set

   PCGI_ROOT /

Later you'll connect to Zope and create more folders in ZODB, so you can
create different configurations, and set PCGI_ROOT to different folders.

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Re: [Zope] view DTML source

2000-11-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Anders Eriksson wrote:
 (Object: standard_html_header)
 AttributeError: __call__

 This is my data:
 Zope version: Zope 2.2.2 (binary release, python 1.5.2, win32-x86)
 Python version: 1.5.2 (#0, Jul 30 1999, 09:52:18) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)]
 System Platform: win32

 Anyone that know why I get this error and how I fix it?

   It looks like you triggeres a "dtml-callable" bug in Zope. Patch for
fixing it was spread few days ago; it will be incorporated into 2.2.4...

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Re: [Zope] DTML source

2000-11-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Tom Deprez wrote:
 Are there some sites which publish there DTML source(structure)? I'm
 particulary looking on how several navigation, menu, ... structures are
 implemented in Zope.

 On Zope.org you can see the DTML-source. Unfortunately not the
 implementation of the navigation (or the menu on the left).

   Russian Python and Zope User Group site: http://zope.net.ru/ The problem
is that it is really in russian (surprized? :)

   Horizontal navigation implemented in header, in method global-nav:
http://zope.net.ru/global-nav/view_source

   Vertical navigation in left column implemented with External Method.
Source will be freely available upon request (on first request I just put
the source on the site).
   External Method requires 'cause I need to play with aqcuisition,
recursion, etc - hardly achivable with DTML scripting.

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Re: [Zope] Simple Yes or No (I think...)

2000-11-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Ben Ocean wrote:
 Can Zope be used to create a *MyYahoo* style GUI?

   Yes.

   Actually, Zope can be used to create *anything*. But the amount of work
may differ :)

   Now, if you want to reformulate your question as "can zope be used to
create this without much effort?" the answer will be No. MyYahoo is pretty
complex application, sure. No tool will clone it without an effort, but
some tools may simplify the task. I think Zope can make life simpler, much
simpler, really.

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[Zope] Problems with External Method

2000-11-18 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   I've stucked with a problem with External Methods. I wrote an External
Method and sterted to debug it. After some period of bugs fixing in the
method Zope responded "Error. Cannot import default_render..." and oops -
my Method removed from its folder... Not exactly "removed" - Zope converts
it to a folder-like object (there is folder icon on it instead of External
Method icon), but I cannot enter the folder.
   I removed the folder, recrated External Method and continued debugging.
But Zope continues to "remove" the method from time to time, and the more I
work on the method the more frequently Zope requires me to recreate the
Method.
   What's this? Normal behavior on buggy External Method or bug in the very
Zope? My Method is very simple, I do not touch Zope internals there... or
at least I *think* I don't touch :)

   (Zope 2.2)

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Re: [Zope] Installation Troubles

2000-11-15 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Ben Ocean wrote:
 I d/l'd the latest distro. Looked inside and couldn't find any installation
 instructions.

   It seems you've problems with searching. There are a lot of information
in distro - in directory doc. There are INSTALL.txt, WEBSERVER.txt, etc.

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Re: [Zope] Installation Troubles

2000-11-15 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Ben Ocean wrote:
 and d/l'd the latest distro, which I believe was
 Zope-2.2.x-to-2.2.2-src.tgz

   It's not a distro - it's a patch to upgarde to 2.2.2.

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Re: [Zope] Local Time Zone

2000-11-04 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Daniel Rusch wrote:
 I know I can get the users language preference like this:
 dtml-var "REQUEST['HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE']"

 The question then is, is there a similar method of getting the users
 Local Time Zone???

   There is no. Use javascript on client side to redirect or set cookie or
something...

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Re: [Zope] Check for JavaScript: (OT)

2000-11-03 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Stefan H. Holek wrote:
 be aware also that having a redirecting start page will cause problems
 for some (most?) spiders and your site will never show up in the search
 engines.

   In any case javascriptfull pages are spiders-unfriendly, so it is not a
problem at all :)))

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Re: [Zope] Check for JavaScript:

2000-11-02 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Daniel Rusch wrote:
 Is there a way from zope to check to see if a user has Javascript
 enabled

   There is no.

   Advice: client issues should be dealt with on client side.

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Re: [Zope] Check for JavaScript:

2000-11-02 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Daniel Rusch wrote:
 Advice: client issues should be dealt with on client side.

 Great I agree completely, except if the client has Java/JavaScript
 turned off it is pretty darn difficult to have client issues dealt with
 on client side!!

htmlhead
script languagae=javascript
window.location = "/site/with/js/"
/script

meta http-equiv=refresh content="5; url=/site/nojs/"
/headbody

pLoading, please wait.../p

/body/html

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[Zope] ZDNet compares 4 our rivals

2000-10-31 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   ZDNet compares four our rivals: ColdFusion, JSP, ASP and PHP:
http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2646052,00.html
   Scripting in ColdFusion found to be the best choice :)

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Re: [Zope] load_site.py URL.

2000-10-30 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Jason C. Leach wrote:
 What does the load_site.py expect as a URL?

   URL to a Zope folder, where you wnat to upload your files/directories.
the folder should exists before you start load_site.py.

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Re: [Zope] How should a collection be in a Python product if i wantto trave rse it with dtml-in rse it with dtml-in

2000-10-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, [iso-8859-1] Max Møller Rasmussen wrote:
 class simple:
 def __init__(self, value):
 self.value = value
 
 theList = [simple(1), simple(2), simple(3), simple(4)]
 
 I would expect to be able to traverse it like below (The objects namespace
 would be popped onto the namespace.):
 
 dtml-in theList
 dtml-var value
 /dtml-in

   Looks good...

 But it isn't so.

   Why? What was the error?

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Re: [Zope] Fw: mysqldb

2000-10-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Dale Lance wrote:
 anyone know where mysqlclient is supposed to be?
 
  gcc -shared  _mysqlmodule.o  -L/usr/local/mysql/lib -lmysqlclient -o
  _mysqlmodule.so
  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient

   It supposed to be in the /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.so. Check
to see it's there. It is usually symlink to libmysqlclient.so.6.23.13 or
such. If it is not - find it on your system and put the directory to -L
flag, e.g

gcc -shared _mysqlmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient -o _mysqlmodule.so

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Re: [Zope] Database Pack

2000-10-12 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Júlio Dinis Silva wrote:
 is there a way to do a pack to zodb without using the managment screens pack 
 button?
 
 Maybe a python script we could execute from the file system.

   Just call the pack over HTTP. I run a cron job to do this.

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Re: [Zope] PyGreSQLDA

2000-09-26 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Leichtman, David J wrote:
 Has anyone had significant speed issues using the PyGreSQLDA? It seems like
 I'm only getting one DB connection at a time. Is this an issue with the DA,
 with Zope, or am I doing something wrong? I have a pgsql db running just

   I have 3 connections just fine. Sometimes Zope timeouts a connection,
but when someone touches it, Zope reopens the connection automatically. No
problem thus far.

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[Zope] Mail problem ([Zope] how to change the 'Zope' realm/resource?? (fwd))

2000-09-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hi!

   Is it only me? I am getting most (but not all) message twice.

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Steve Drees wrote:
 WHat if we want to change the realm dependent on the folder?
 
 I.e. Is there a way to change this at run-time?

I'd love to know the answer to this one too :-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Simple dtml-unless problem

2000-09-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Tim Hicks wrote:
 dtml-unless "id == 'index_html'"

   Sometimes id is string, sometimes it is a function.

dtml-unless "_['id'] == 'index_html'"

Oleg.
 
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Re: [Zope] Simple dtml-unless problem

2000-09-13 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Tim Hicks wrote:
 Sometimes id is string, sometimes it is a function.
 
  dtml-unless "_['id'] == 'index_html'"
 
 Thanks very much guys.  _['id'] fixed it.

   I hope you understand that I forced Zope to call the id() function, but
only if it is function. Else _['id'] just returns the id string.

Oleg.
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