On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:12:13AM -0400, Firestar wrote:
> Well, i don't think my site will ever get that much hits:) Anyway, i check
> out Digicool website on this ZEO thing, and it seems that they charge abt
> $25,000 for this product alone(+consulting)? Not to belittle their effort,
> but that
> Well, i don't think my site will ever get that much hits:) Anyway, i check
> out Digicool website on this ZEO thing, and it seems that they charge abt
> $25,000 for this product alone(+consulting)? Not to belittle their effort,
> but that's a huge amount of money, considering that everything now
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From: "J. Atwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Firestar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 7, 2000 10:34:45 AM GMT
Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>I have a lot of time and exposure to Tomcat so it made it easy
>for me to run those tests (BT
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> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>
> > -maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance?
>
> This is more of a problem for most people. One evening whilst bored we
&g
>
>regards,
>firestar
>
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>From: "J. Atwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Firestar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: July 6, 2000 2:55:02 PM GMT
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>
>
>No. Not when compared to other applications th
Hello,
>I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web
>project. However, I read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think)
>that Zope(running thru Zserver?) is much SLOWER than Apache and
>AOLserver. Is that true? To all Zope users and 'guru's, what is yr
>experie
Curtis Maloney wrote in part:
> A friend of mine was a hardcore PHP nut, before I introduced him to Zope, and
> was amazed at how simple it made work. I think the thing that slowed his
> learning of zope the most was often expecting solutions to problems to be
> complex.
I'll second that!
I r
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 04:27:22AM -0400, Firestar wrote:
> Well, i do appreciate the 'extra' features that Zope provides,
> but speed is still a matter of concern here. Imagine showing
> my boss "what my website can do" and all those advanced features,
> but it crawls like a snail...
What are
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 04:13:31AM -0400, Firestar wrote:
> Of course if i have time, i will play ard with it and see how good it is.
> Problem is that time is not really on my side and i need to decide on my
> next development tool fast(i have yet to try out other stuff e.g. ASP,
> JSP, Servlet.
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Firestar wrote:
> Hi, thanks for your comment.
>
> >Absolutely. Apache is many times faster than Zope. (Don't know >much
> > about AOLserver, but anything with AOL. :)
> >
> >However, Apache can't do squat compared with Zope when it comes >to
> > dynamic content.
>
> Not
> > -maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance?
>
> This is more of a problem for most people. One evening whilst bored we
> calculated that Zope could happily serve enough people to fill up our
> pipe... so the bottle neck is our connection.
>
> Mind you we'd had a beer or two
Firestar wrote:
> Check out Jakob Nielsen's website and you would know that speed of serving
> webpages is one of the main usability factors.
The bottleneck is not generally the speed of serving webpages, but
rather, the speed of the client downloading the data from webpages, as
the data has to
Firestar wrote:
>
> Hi Bill, thanks for your reply.
>
[...]
> >That's ~6 Million requests/day. Cut it in half, for more
> >complicated tasks, and still moving along at a good clip.
> >What's better, try Apache doing the same things.
>
> >Does your next project invlove more than just static fi
> -maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance?
This is more of a problem for most people. One evening whilst bored we
calculated that Zope could happily serve enough people to fill up our
pipe... so the bottle neck is our connection.
Mind you we'd had a beer or two so calculatio
rom: Firestar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web project.
> However, I read from a recent benchmark
maybe if we all share "optimum" hardware configuration to improve
performance+
-where is your server "hosted" as this is vital(obviously:)) to
speed/performance
-maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance?
michael
drawingincode
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On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 04:27:22AM -0400, Firestar wrote:
> Well, i do appreciate the 'extra' features that Zope provides, but speed is
> still a matter of concern here. Imagine showing my boss "what my website can
> do" and all those advanced features, but it crawls like a snail...
"Slow" does
--Original Message--
From: Phill Hugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Firestar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 6, 2000 10:17:19 AM GMT
Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>If you want the best of both worlds, map out the images and
>large static
>files from apache's
Firestar wrote:
> I have been programming with PHP and PERL, and they are quite fast, even when
>serving dynamic pages. Of course, they do not provide all the features of Zope, but
>they are able to handle things like sessions, authentication, database API...which is
>quite adequate for most s
Hi john, u can check out the benchmark here:
http://weblogs.userland.com/qube/
regards,
firestar
--Original Message--
From: John Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Curtis Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 6, 2000 4:12:33 AM GMT
Subject: Re[2]: [Zope]
Hi Bill, thanks for your reply.
--Original Message--
From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Firestar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 6, 2000 8:19:39 AM GMT
Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>Define slow. Slow compared to what? Doing what?
>That's a ig diff
>Well, i do appreciate the 'extra' features that Zope provides, but speed is
still a matter of concern here. Imagine showing my boss "what my website can
do" and all those advanced features, but it crawls like a snail...
>
>Anyway, thanks for your reply. I will certainly pick up 'Zope':), but just
--Original Message--
From: Marco Mariani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Firestar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 6, 2000 7:05:49 AM GMT
Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
>Apache and AOLserver with what? What would you program these
>with?
Well, for Apache there's PH
Firestar wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web project. However,
>I read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think) that Zope(running thru
>Zserver?) is much SLOWER than Apache and AOLserver. Is that true? To all Zope users
>and 'guru's,
Hi, thanks for your comment.
>Absolutely. Apache is many times faster than Zope. (Don't know >much about
>AOLserver, but anything with AOL. :)
>However, Apache can't do squat compared with Zope when it comes >to dynamic content.
Not true. I have been programming using PHP and PERL, and to
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Firestar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web project.
> However, I read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think) that
> Zope(running thru Zserver?) is much SLOWER than Apache and AOLserver. Is
> that true? To all Zope u
Hi,
I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web project. However, I
read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think) that Zope(running thru
Zserver?) is much SLOWER than Apache and AOLserver. Is that true? To all Zope users
and 'guru's, what is yr experience using
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