[Zope3-Users] stuck with zope.schema.Object

2005-04-14 Thread Adam Groszer
I defined an interface like this: class IBejegyzes(Interface): snip sablon = Text( title=uSablon, required=True ) implemented it: class Bejegyzes(BTreeContainer): implements(IBejegyzes, IBejegyzesContainer, IBejegyzesContained) snip sablon =

[Zope3-Users] fighting with Pluggable Authentication Utility

2005-04-15 Thread Adam Groszer
Now I have a problem with the Pluggable Authentication Utility. (win32/Zope3/trunk/30009) I have a folder(hu03), which a made a Site. In the default Site-Management Folder I created a Pluggable Authentication Utility (pauloc). Which has a SessionCredentialsPlugin (s2), a PrincipalFolder (usrloc)

Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3 Product directory Problem

2005-07-11 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Shariq, Plone is a product for Zope 2.xx. Monday, July 11, 2005, 1:07:12 PM, you wrote: ss   ss Hi, ss   I have download Zope3 by using Python 2.3 but i didn't find ss any Product directory where I can install Plone. ss How to install Plone. ss Kindly help me, ss Thanks in advance ss

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] can't get files using tortoiseSVN client

2005-07-16 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello aaron, You will have to enter the URL svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/book/trunk into TortoiseSVN. That works for me. Sunday, July 17, 2005, 5:50:16 AM, you wrote: Dear all, I get answer from this link, http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#http-301-error so could anyone please send

[Zope3-Users] checking zope3book examples

2005-07-17 Thread Adam Groszer
Dear All, I just checked through the messageboard sample of Stephan's book. I used win2k with python 2.3.5, Zope3 trunk version 0. checking with the tests, step10 failes with: from zope.app.file.interfaces import IFile, IFileContent ImportError: cannot import name IFileContent checking

[Zope3-Users] How to resolve bi-directionally navigable association?

2005-08-08 Thread Adam Groszer
As the subject sais, how can I resolve bi-directionally navigable association in Z3? Both objects have to have references of each other, that means that also the schemas have to have references. class IItem(interface): unit = Object( title=uUnit, description=uUnit,

Re: [Zope3-Users] How to resolve bi-directionally navigable association? (Corrections)

2005-08-08 Thread Adam Groszer
Corrections: Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:45:56 AM, I wrote: The only way I found is defining a dummy interface before the other: Actually that does not work, because the dummy IUnit and the real IUnit is not the same and IItem stores the wrong one. This failes on validations. Now I don't have

Re: [Zope3-Users] schema constraint sets required?

2005-08-22 Thread Adam Groszer
To answer my own question :-) No, but required is True by default. And even the constraint gets called only the value is filled. Sorry for the noise ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users

[Zope3-Users] schema constraint sets required?

2005-08-22 Thread Adam Groszer
I'd like to check a field if it is a valid e-mail address. It can be also empty. The first trial was: class ISzemely(Interface): ... email = TextLine( title=uEmail cim, description=uEmail cim,

[Zope3-Users] How to do addform+addmenuitem 'manually'

2005-08-24 Thread Adam Groszer
I would like to change the automatically generated forms to template based one's, but I'm stuck at the configuration. browser:addform schema=szscreen.interfaces.ISzerep content_factory=szscreen.app.Szerep label=Uj Szerep name=AddSzerep.html

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: How to do addform+addmenuitem 'manually'

2005-08-25 Thread Adam Groszer
and template attribute. Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 8:32:38 PM, you wrote: Adam Groszer wrote: I would like to change the automatically generated forms to template based one's, but I'm stuck at the configuration. browser:addform schema=szscreen.interfaces.ISzerep

Re: [Zope3-Users] stuck with zope.schema.List and subwidget

2005-08-27 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Christian, I'm having almost the same problems with a 'simple' OrderedMultiSelectWidget. Look for the subject problems with browser:widget on the list [Zope3-dev]. Saturday, August 27, 2005, 1:01:04 AM, you wrote: Hi! Did anyone ever test or succeed using the subwidget-directive of

Re: [Zope3-Users] Calling createAndAdd with different object id

2005-09-10 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Florian, I suggest you download the examples for Philipp's book from http://worldcookery.com/files/examples-1.0.tgz Have a look at \examples-1.0\14containers\folder.py. Saturday, September 10, 2005, 5:05:26 PM, you wrote: Hello, I want to override the createAndAdd method mothed in a

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] Calling createAndAdd with different object id

2005-09-11 Thread Adam Groszer
\container\browser\adding.py and \src\zope\app\container\interfaces.py, IAdding interface. The above are not tested, so... Sunday, September 11, 2005, 11:01:05 AM, you wrote: Am Samstag, 10. September 2005 18:53 schrieb Adam Groszer: Hello Florian, I suggest you download the examples for Philipp's

Re: [Zope3-Users] Problem importing zope modules from /usr/local/zope3Instance/lib/python/productname folder

2005-10-07 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Ronald, I would say that either you have to put your zope source in the PYTHONPATH or copy/link the same into the site-packages folder. Friday, October 7, 2005, 7:28:08 PM, you wrote: In chapter 4 of Philipp's book, he runs the python interpreter from the command line and imports

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: index.html

2005-12-09 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Jeff, Strange, now it's working, but I think I did not modify anything. Maybe I missed a restart... Friday, December 9, 2005, 12:21:47 PM, you wrote: JR Adam Groszer wrote: I register a page with the following zcml: browser:page name=index.html for=..interfaces.IPerson

Re: [Zope3-Users] SQLObject and SQLOS question

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Roman, Have a look at http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/sqlos/trunk/doc/examples/sqlos_sample/ Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 11:45:57 AM, you wrote: Hi! I am new both to Zope3 and SQLObject, but they seem (from the descriptions) to be natural fit. My problem is getting them work together. My

Re: [Zope3-Users] Convert from string to class

2006-01-18 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Florian, There is a full-blow method for that in src\zope\configuration\config.py in the class ConfigurationContext called resolve. Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 11:10:12 PM, you wrote: Hello, I've a string like zope.app.folder.Folder and I want to get the class zope.app.folder.Folder

[Zope3-Users] Z3 widgets overview

2006-02-03 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello, I had some time to finalize the widgets overview. You can download it from here in various formats: http://www.zope.org/Members/adamg/widget -- Best regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote of the day: A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] Debugger for Zope 3

2006-04-26 Thread Adam Groszer
Hi, If we are coming to commercial IDEs then Komodo is also a good choice for debugging. You just have to put it's dbgp module on the PYTHONPATH and use the below small script to avoid some irritating deprecation mesages. After this, you put brk() in you code and it will stop there. After it was

[Zope3-Users] [ANN] win32-trunk-pyds

2006-05-18 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello *, I just put the compiled pyd's for win32 users to http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/, into a relase called 'Trunk'. -- Best regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote of the day: I pronounce it as certain that there was never a truly great man that was

[Zope3-Users] Re[2]: [Zope3-dev] [ANN] win32-trunk-pyds

2006-05-20 Thread Adam Groszer
Hi Tim, Sorry for this small confusion. If you don't mind, I'll do it. (The thing started as I became the compiler of the win32 release and the pyd's are just a by-product of the release.) I'll do my best to keep it up to date, but if I should miss something, please drop a mail. Friday, May

Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3 workflow ?

2006-07-17 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Thierry, http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/wfmc/ and http://svn.z3lab.org/trac/z3lab/browser/z3ecm/trunk/src/ecm/workflow Monday, July 17, 2006, 5:25:07 PM, you wrote: Hi, I'm looking for components to support workflows in Zope3. I've read into Zope3 Developer's Handbook a

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] zalchemy integration

2006-08-14 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Stephan, Monday, August 14, 2006, 12:08:27 PM, you wrote: SR We were on schedule and delivered an application above expectations. SR BTW, I hope I will get a case study out in the next few weeks. Great, I'd love to read that. -- Best regards, Groszer Adam -- Quote of the day: Ah, but

Re: [Zope3-Users] Installing Zope3 on Windows

2006-08-25 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Catonano, Just uploaded a win32 installer and the pyds. Friday, August 25, 2006, 5:01:37 PM, you wrote: c Hello people, c I downloaded the 3.2.1 version from http://zope.org/Products/Zope3 c but it has no windows installer. c the previous 3.2.o has it. c That is, the last version

Re: [Zope3-Users] svn.zope.org and www.zope.org not online

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Roger, u, yes squid/2.5.STABLE6 says: While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.zope.org/ The following error was encountered: Connection Failed The system returned: (111) Connection refused Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 3:35:34 PM, you wrote: RI Hi RI Can somebody confirm

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] svn.zope.org and www.zope.org not online

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Groszer
, you wrote: BY Adam Groszer wrote: squid/2.5.STABLE6 says: While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.zope.org/ The following error was encountered: Connection Failed The system returned: (111) Connection refused BY There appear to be some issues with the zope.org DNS

Re: [Zope3-Users] Needed help with zc.table selection column

2006-11-15 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Thierry, Use something like this: sels = self.columns[0].getSelected(self.list_data, self.request) Then sels will contain your objects as a list. Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 12:17:46 PM, you wrote: TF Hi, TF I'm using zc.table to handle simple lists of items to replace the TF

Re: [Zope3-Users] zope 3.3 on windows can't create pages

2006-11-28 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Anton, That's a small incompatibility between python 2.4.4 and Zope 3.3. You can use python 2.4.3 to work around that. The fix for Zope is there but only in the svn yet. Monday, November 27, 2006, 10:51:48 PM, you wrote: Hi, I have a win2k sp4 PC. I installed: - python 2.4.4 -

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] Re: UnicodeEncodeErrors from zope/app/maildir.py

2006-11-29 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Rupert, I'm not a mail+RFC expert, but I would try to pass the content encoded as UTF-8 and set the headers accordingly. Wednesday, November 29, 2006, 1:28:41 PM, you wrote: RR Raphael Ritz wrote: Well, there are the officials like: http://unicode.org

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] Custom Image Widget

2006-12-14 Thread Adam Groszer
Hi Adam, I would try to figure out how the data gets extracted when it gets displayed. Something like _getCurrentValue. Or better, have a look at hurry.file. It uses a session variable or hidden input to solve your problem. And well, thinking further, hurry.file might be _the_ solution for you.

Re: [Zope3-Users] 'exceptions.TypeError: can't pickle Checker objects' in zope.scheduler task in transaction.commit()

2007-02-13 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Alek, 'can't pickle Checker objects' happened to me, when I tried to write a security proxied object to the ZODB. Monday, February 12, 2007, 4:49:01 PM, you wrote: AK Hello, AK I finally managed to access local components from zope.scheduler, but I felt to AK another, even worse

Re: [Zope3-Users] Configure.zcml In Hello World Video On WorldCookery.Com Doesn't Work

2007-02-16 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Jonathan, A quick guess: for=zope.app.container.interfaces.Icontainer is for=zope.app.container.interfaces.IContainer Friday, February 16, 2007, 5:24:22 PM, you wrote: Here is my configure.zcml file, which is identical to the one Paul Everitt says to write: configure

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] Design question (object or interface for category implementation?)

2007-03-09 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello, directlyProvides is surely persistent. Make a site works like this. zope.interface.directlyProvides( self, interfaces.ISite, zope.interface.directlyProvidedBy(self)) Friday, March 9, 2007, 3:30:46 PM, you wrote: GM Christophe Combelles wrote: Christophe

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Community opinion about workflow engine

2007-03-13 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Godefroid, I'm having a bit biased view, because I know just zope.wfmc and have the luck developing a pure Z3 application. I think with zope.wfmc you have - WFMC/XPDL support, you can shine with standards and big companies love standards - because it's XPDL support there's a graphical

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] correct display of Text field in a view

2007-03-14 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Ivan, I don't think that you'll need IMultiLineText and MultiLineText. That's why IText and Text are there for. You'll have to register the widget for IText or use it directly in your view with CustomWidgetFactory. In fact it's a good question why Z3 doesn't provide such a widget for Text.

[Zope3-Users] Community opinion about search+filter

2007-03-14 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello, I'd like to ask your opinion, your experiences about searching and filtering in quite large object DBs. We need to add search and filter functions to our current app, where the user might be able to create quite _sophisticated_ filter criterias. (The app is a pure Z3 app, subject is

Re: [Zope3-Users] Sorry about that last email

2007-05-11 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Greg, Quite easily, you can write: contains('mypackage.package.IReport') That gets not resolved at import time. Friday, May 11, 2007, 1:43:44 PM, you wrote: GB Hrm, it appears that ctrl-enter in kmail actually sends emails... Sorry about GB that last one.. GB Anyway, my question: GB

Re: [Zope3-Users] Utility for removing unneeded import statements

2007-06-05 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Hermann, Z3 has an importchecker: Import checker This utility finds unused imports in Python modules. Its output is grep-like and thus emacs-friendly. ... Althought pyflakes works for me better. http://www.divmod.org/projects/pyflakes Tuesday, June 5, 2007, 12:50:40 PM, you wrote:

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] Utility for removing unneeded import statements

2007-06-05 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Marius, Tuesday, June 5, 2007, 6:03:52 PM, you wrote: pyflakes doesn't handle imports that are used by doctests only, e.g.: ... Can the import checker in Z3 handle this? I don't think so. As I remember it did not find all unnecessary imports, that's why I switched to pyflakes. --

Re: [Zope3-Users] Custom Schemas, form widgets

2007-07-03 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Hermann, Look for z3c.schema, z3c.widget. There are some. Sometimes google spits out some usable third party packages too. Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 1:32:26 PM, you wrote: Hi, I wonder if there's a package that extends Zope's schemas and widgets as Zope covers only basic ones. There are

Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3 PID file ?

2007-07-17 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Thierry, What about zopectl logreopen? Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:17:50 AM, you wrote: TF Hi, TF I need to write scripts to handle Zope3 logfiles rotation. TF But I can't find any PID file for the running instance. TF Do I have to call for Zope restart or is there any other way which

Re: [Zope3-Users] How to access request variable from vocabulary

2007-08-06 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Hermann, I'm using something like this: def getCurrentRequest(): return getInteraction().participations[0] Monday, August 6, 2007, 6:32:16 PM, you wrote: Hi, I have a simple function that is registered a vocabulary for a Choice-widget. My problem is that the vocabulary should

Re: [Zope3-Users] possible bug in zope\app\authentication\principalfolder.py

2007-08-09 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Shailesh, Which version of Z3 re you using? As I remember that was fixed, but I can't dig the info from SVN. Tuesday, August 7, 2007, 5:28:02 PM, you wrote: Hi, I was using InternalPrincipal object and specified a password with non-ascii characters. Since Password is derived from

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] possible bug in zope\app\authentication\principalfolder.py

2007-08-09 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Shailesh, As I remember the fix was later. Thursday, August 9, 2007, 10:51:18 AM, you wrote: I have Zope 3.3.1 the official release. With regards, -Shailesh On 8/9/07, Adam Groszer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Shailesh, Which version of Z3 re you using? As I remember

Re: [Zope3-Users] Overriding cssClass on all input widgets

2007-08-25 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Greg, You can do your own widgets where you just override the cssClass property, then in an overrides.zcml you register them instead of the stock widgets. See zope.app.form.browser/configure.zcml. An alternative way could be to create a new zope skin and adapdt your css according to what

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] How do I get the value of security proxied attributes from a view template

2007-08-25 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Yuan, Try to add some security declaration to decimal.Decimal instead of using removeSecurityProxy. something like this (untested): class class=decimal.Decimal require permission=zope.Public attributes=... / /class Saturday, August 25, 2007, 1:59:26 PM, you

Re[2]: [Zope3-Users] most useful zope 3 libraries

2007-09-04 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Christophe, Something like this was proposed by Stephan some 1.5 year ago. He did some quite detailed specs for it. Tuesday, September 4, 2007, 8:45:15 AM, you wrote: Carlos de la Guardia a écrit : Hi, the other day I commented on my blog [1] about the lack of information on the

Re: [Zope3-Users] Implementing a DropdownWidget for a country-code vocabulary

2007-09-15 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Jesper, That should be solved already. Look for z3c.widget.country. svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/z3c.widget/trunk/src/z3c/widget/country Saturday, September 15, 2007, 6:08:19 PM, you wrote: Hello! I'm trying to implement a DropdownWidget for my country list. In my app i'd like

Re: [Zope3-Users] Vocabulary, unicode

2008-01-07 Thread Adam Groszer
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3 packages inside a standalone application

2008-04-03 Thread Adam GROSZER
on MDF this setup, but it seems to work. MDF Thanks MDF ___ MDF Zope3-users mailing list MDF Zope3-users@zope.org MDF http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[Zope3-Users] bsquare'ing

2008-04-03 Thread Adam GROSZER
: + c['change_source'] = poller +else: + c['change_source'] = SVNPoller(svn_url, svnuser=svnsuer, svnpasswd=svnpasswd, split_file=split_file, pollinterval=30) Christian, opinions? Where to make those changes? -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER

[Zope3-Users] Re[2]: [Zope-dev] bsquare'ing

2008-04-03 Thread Adam GROSZER
Thursday, April 3, 2008, 2:21:50 PM, you wrote: BY Adam GROSZER wrote: We used to issue python2.4 bootstrap.py, buildout bootstrap . gives an error, unless I'm missing something. BY I'm not familiar with Christian's work with bsquare, but suspect giving BY him the actual error message would

[Zope3-Users] Re[4]: [Zope-dev] testing a meta-egg

2008-04-04 Thread Adam GROSZER
test dependencies JF that you haven't included. There is no standard way of specifying JF test dependencies for installed distributions. JF In general, I find implicitly including packages for testing is JF fraught with peril. -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER

Re: [Zope3-Users] Pure python packages for zope.component and zope.interface

2008-04-19 Thread Adam GROSZER
://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/04/13/app-engine-and-pylons/ -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote of the day: Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. - Dale Carnegie ___ Zope3

[Zope3-Users] zope.i18n.locales and currency

2008-05-23 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello, Which is the sane to format currencies? locale.numbers.getFormatter('currency').format(value) Holds something like: ¤1,000,000.00 Should I simply replace ¤ with the currency sign or is there a better way? -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hey Roger, Yes, you're right, thanks for the explanation. Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:32:04 PM, you wrote: RI Hi Tim, Adam Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 06:25 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: Adam Groszer is working on a ObjectWidget

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Adam GROSZER
levels sound like you'd need some sort of subforms or even separated forms for those. (I say that without having a look at your interfaces) -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote of the day: All changes, even the most longed for, have

Re: [Zope3-Users] unregister, delete and pack, still no gc?

2008-12-23 Thread Adam GROSZER
of this. -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:agros...@gmail.com -- Quote of the day: I must do something will always solve more problems than Something must be done. - Unknown ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users

Re: [Zope3-Users] threads, pool size and cache recommendations (quad core)

2009-12-16 Thread Adam GROSZER
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3.4.1 KGS released!

2010-06-25 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Thierry, I think it is available: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.configuration/3.4.1 Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:50:19 PM, you wrote: TF Le jeudi 24 juin 2010, TF Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com a écrit : TF

Re: [Zope3-Users] Accessing raw post data

2010-07-22 Thread Adam GROSZER
___ ES Zope3-users mailing list ES Zope3-users@zope.org ES https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:agros...@gmail.com -- Quote of the day: Nothing ever built arose to touch the skies unless some man dreamed

Re: [Zope3-Users] Accessing raw post data

2010-08-25 Thread Adam GROSZER
is passed in the request body. ES Do you know how to handle that? ES Thanks ES Edoardo ES On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Edoardo, You might be interested in z3c.json, z3c.jsonrpc. Especially z3c.jsonrpc, that should handle such requests with ease. Wednesday, July 21

Re: [Zope3-Users] Accessing raw post data

2010-08-27 Thread Adam GROSZER
in the request body. Do you know how to handle that? Thanks Edoardo On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Edoardo, You might be interested in z3c.json, z3c.jsonrpc. Especially z3c.jsonrpc, that should handle such requests with ease. Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 7:33:29

Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3-users Digest, Vol 71, Issue 5

2010-10-21 Thread Adam GROSZER
___ da Zope3-users mailing list da Zope3-users@zope.org da https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users da End of Zope3-users Digest, Vol 71, Issue 5 da ** -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER