Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Ricardo Newbery wrote at 2008-1-30 13:14 -0800: > ... >I meant easier for the end user, not the developer. It's kind of >complicated right now to explain how to set up a ZEO configuration to >work with your third-party product. Makes it a bit of hurdle to >distribute such a thing for genera

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Ricardo Newbery wrote at 2008-1-30 12:24 -0800: > ... >Has anyone given thought to maybe providing a more general class with >conflict resolution in the core distribution? There can be no *general* class with conflict resolution. Conflicts usually are fatal. Precise knowledge about the intended

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-30 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Jan 30, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: Ricardo Newbery wrote: On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo Newbery wrote: Has anyone given thought to maybe providing a more general class with conflict resolution in the

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-30 Thread Chris McDonough
Ricardo Newbery wrote: On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo Newbery wrote: Has anyone given thought to maybe providing a more general class with conflict resolution in the core distribution? The Length class works for simple

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-30 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo Newbery wrote: Has anyone given thought to maybe providing a more general class with conflict resolution in the core distribution? The Length class works for simple counters and I guess it

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-30 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: Ricardo Newbery wrote: Okay, then assuming you've installed ZEO from Zope software, if your third-party product includes conflict resolution by instantiating a class defined in the Zope product directory, then is it also safe to assume that this

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo Newbery wrote: > Okay, then assuming you've installed ZEO from Zope software, > if your third-party product includes conflict resolution by > instantiating a class defined in the Zope product directory, then is > it also safe to assume th

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

2008-01-30 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Jan 30, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo Newbery wrote: Another related question. With respect to conflict resolution, is is safe to assume that products (with _p_resolveConflict methods) in the main Zope products directory are al

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO with Multiple Storages

2006-09-15 Thread Dieter Maurer
Brian Brinegar wrote at 2006-9-14 14:49 -0400: >> > One ZEO server can deal with multiple storages just fine. >> > Transactions involving multiple storages commit just fine. >> >> Caveat: You buy nothing by having a single ZEO process serve several >> ZODBs when you're trying to decrease commit tim

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-04 Thread Chris Withers
Gerhard Schmidt wrote: If I had the Time I whould do it. My ToDo List goes around up to the moon an back twice. About the funding I have to talk to my superior when he is back from his vacation. Bear in mind that you will need serious amounts of cash to get this implemented. This is a massive

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-03 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:19:31AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: > > > --On 3. Mai 2006 09:15:45 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Every major innovation was extremely uncommon bevor it was implemented. > >So thats not a reason not to do it. Is there a way to get this to wor

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. Mai 2006 09:15:45 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Every major innovation was extremely uncommon bevor it was implemented. So thats not a reason not to do it. Is there a way to get this to work. I Think it whould be a very nice feature. Because it whould increase the

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-03 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:56:28AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: > > > --On 3. Mai 2006 08:35:48 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >It was lost in the 2.6 version of the Zope book i have scanned the Page > >with the Picture. See http://etustar.ze.tum.de/zopebook.jpg > > >

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. Mai 2006 08:35:48 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It was lost in the 2.6 version of the Zope book i have scanned the Page with the Picture. See http://etustar.ze.tum.de/zopebook.jpg Scary...no idea why it is in the printed edition...at least the 2.6 and 2.7 editi

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:22:22AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: > > > --On 3. Mai 2006 08:11:44 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >The question is why is it impossible to run a zeo as a zeoclient. > > Because this usecase was/is never supported. > > >I can > >setup a zeo with

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. Mai 2006 08:11:44 +0200 Gerhard Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is why is it impossible to run a zeo as a zeoclient. Because this usecase was/is never supported. I can setup a zeo with a zeoclient storage i See teh invalidations coming from the backend zeo. So this

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:23:40AM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > > I try to reduce the load of the line between the backup Computing Center > > and the Mainsite by having a zeo server as Proxy between the zope server >

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread David Pratt
Tres Seaver wrote: ZRS secondaries go into "recovery mode" whenever they lose connection with the promary: that recovery is sufficient to allow it to resync (even to bring up a new, "empty" secondary). Hi Tres. This is sort of how I envisioned ZRS (though I have never seen or used it). I tho

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Pratt wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: > >> >> repozo does not help you syncing multiple ZEO server..it just performs >> an incremental backup of an existing Data.fs file. And I don't know of >> any solution have multiple "master" ZEO servers. There

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Jonathan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client Andreas Jung wrote: repozo does not help you syncing multiple ZEO server..it just performs an incremental backup of an existing Data.fs file. And I don't know of any solution h

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread David Pratt
Andreas Jung wrote: repozo does not help you syncing multiple ZEO server..it just performs an incremental backup of an existing Data.fs file. And I don't know of any solution have multiple "master" ZEO servers. There can be only one. -aj For sure. I guess the best one could have would be re

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 2. Mai 2006 12:38:28 -0300 David Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: - Another possibility would be to use 'repozo' to create deltas on the primary, and then propagate them to the secondary via rsync, then apply them via 'repozo'. Hi Tres. I have also been in

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread David Pratt
Tres Seaver wrote: - Another possibility would be to use 'repozo' to create deltas on the primary, and then propagate them to the secondary via rsync, then apply them via 'repozo'. Hi Tres. I have also been investigating strategies but had not thought of this possibility. I am not s

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:23:40AM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > I would look for a replication strategy to create your "intermediate" > storage server: the setup you are trying is not supported by the > current ZEO setup. Such strategies include: > > - Zope Corp's "Zope Replication Services" pr

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO clients eating up / filesystem

2005-09-30 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 09:03:29AM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 02:13:34PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: > > > > > >>Perhaps your FS grows because ZEO write the cache files to /tmp (which is >

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and session variables.

2005-05-04 Thread Fernando Lujan
Dennis Allison wrote: Hi Paul, Thank you. And, yes, I saw Chris' posting, but I don't think that's the right solution for us. A fast shared session variable store seems to me to be a better way to go and a whole lot more fail safe. Hi Dennis, I posted a solution some time ago. Search the history,

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and session variables.

2005-05-03 Thread Dennis Allison
Hi Paul, Thank you. And, yes, I saw Chris' posting, but I don't think that's the right solution for us. A fast shared session variable store seems to me to be a better way to go and a whole lot more fail safe. On Tue, 3 May 2005, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:14:56PM -0400, T

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and session variables.

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:14:56PM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dennis Allison wrote: > > I am just setting up a multi-headed distributed system with several Zope > > heads all communications with a ZEO backend. The zopes can be on the same > > m

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo

2005-04-27 Thread Jonathan Cyr
FYI, Back during 2.6.x, I developed my whole system on a Windows Laptop, migrated to a Windows ZEO System, 1 client, 1 server.   Then moved the ZEO client & server to Red Hat AS 2.1, and now finally to SuSE 9.0.   The only differences for me were the steps in installing PIL (Python Imaging Lib

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo

2005-04-27 Thread J Cameron Cooper
ken wood wrote: I appreciate all the great tips on the cionfiguration issue. But my main issue is about infrastructure: Which hardware and / or operating systems can be used for a Zope/Zeo system. OS: pretty much any Unixish OS, though on anything but Linux, BSD, and Mac OS X (and maybe Solaris)

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and Sessions.

2005-04-15 Thread Richard Jones
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:54 pm, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: > >>>Richard Jones wrote: > >>http://www.zope.org/Members/richard/ZSQLSessionDataManager > > > > ark! > > insufficient priveleges > > Works now ! Well, it does *somet

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and Sessions.

2005-04-15 Thread Bakhtiar A Hamid
On 4/14/05, Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:21 am, Tres Seaver wrote: > > Richard Jones wrote: > > > Yeah, I remember poking around that code way back, and it seemed > > > reasonable. Its interactions with transa

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and Sessions.

2005-04-14 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Tres Seaver wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/richard/ZSQLSessionDataManager Cool. Where is CVS for that, so that I don't bug you for features. ;) I could import it to cvs.zope.org, if you like. I'd like to add Oracle support since I need it myself, and when I have working changes would like to

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and Sessions.

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Jones
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:21 am, Tres Seaver wrote: > Richard Jones wrote: > > Yeah, I remember poking around that code way back, and it seemed > > reasonable. Its interactions with transactions are the bits that scare > > me. Using a standard RDBMS conne

[Zope] Note on 2GB limit for ZODB FileStorage (was Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and 2gbmax limit for linux .. not for solaris etc.)max limit for linux .. not for solaris etc.)

2000-08-10 Thread Jim Fulton
Please note that we recently found a bug in ZODB FileStorage that causes it to fail miserably if a file gets over 2GB. This bug is fixed in Zope 2.2.1, which is being released in beta today. Note that even with this fix, your OS/File-System/Python-config must support files over 2GB to allow l

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and 2gb max limit for linux .. not for solaris etc.

2000-07-27 Thread Bill Anderson
Jørgen Skogstad wrote: > > Sven Hohage wrote: > > > > Hallo Jorgen, > > I write you cause I've got a question about Zope. > > You've posted on the mailing list on my question with the filesize of > > the data.fs or in ZEO ZSS. > > My problem is that I'd like to know which Unix - versions don't ha

Re: [Zope] Re: ZEO and 2gb max limit for linux .. not for solaris etc.

2000-07-27 Thread Zope
If you don't wan't to run Sun or HP-UX you could always look at one of the open *BSD clones. As I can recall both OpenBSD and FreeBSD have filsystems that manage >2GB files. /Johan > Sven Hohage wrote: > > > > Hallo Jorgen, > > I write you cause I've got a question about Zope. > > You've pos